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Adidas has recently onshored a factory to Germany but robots not people make the trainers. https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/21/...-speedfactory/ ---------- Post added at 11:53 ---------- Previous post was at 11:49 ---------- Quote:
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It did not take a genius to figure out what Trump actually meant here. He means he did not call Russia before he became President, stop looking for fake holes. You also have not answered my post from a few pages back. |
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Anyway back on topic Trump is doing his 'sorta' state of the union today: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=45787395 |
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In this instance you attacked the quality of Hugh's contribution without giving a reason as to why you felt it was weak. So no one could support or challenge your argument. |
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My comment was self-explanatory; Hugh didn't actually comment either - he just posted a couple of links which were also self-explanatory. Feel free to comment when you work it out, oh hang on, you already did... Quote:
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Or perhaps he just forgot.... Which post is that, Mick? |
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http://time.com/4684068/donald-trump...m-complicated/ Totally different when you hear it in context. That's the mainstream media for you though. |
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Can't help being inept because it's suits your negative Trump stance. Let's have some fake outrage. :rolleyes: |
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By the way for all Trump went on about Obama travelling and golfing he himself is going back to his resort for the 4th time in 6 weeks this weekend: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/flo...228-story.html
Which likely brings him to the average cost of Obama's trips a year in just 6 weeks: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...xpayers-234562 Here is Trump: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...085760?lang=en Seems the Democrats aren't the only hypocrites. |
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Since you bring up though what is the context? He doesn't say anything before or after that changes the meaning of the sentence 'nobody thought health care could be so complicated'? He says why it's complicated but who thought it wouldn't be? Obama basically threw his first term behind health care, Clinton couldn't do, American Presidents have constantly hit the rocks with health care. So people made fun of Trump for saying nobody thought health care could be so complicated when everyone knows it's very complicated. |
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His thrust was the delay in announcing tax cuts until heath care was costed and accounted for.
Seems quite clear to me unless you have an agenda. EDITAnd the need to enter it into statute. |
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The context doesn't change the meaning of the quote, it's just that he said other stuff too. ---------- Post added at 19:56 ---------- Previous post was at 19:54 ---------- I should point out I don't care about the quote. I think the hypocrisy of him slagging off Obama for trips whilst running up in 6 weeks what took Obama, on average, a year to reach is more interesting. Although even then I don't care that much as the overall money is negligible in the context of a US budget but imagine the uproar had Obama went to a resort so often. He got so much flack for the trips he did take. |
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That is true beacause a pint of bitter, a Brandy and a vodka are "just other stuff". Thanks for assisting me to be healthy. As regards his trips I don't care in the least. Not my budget, not my problem. There will come a time when the Presidential budget will not support them. EDIT Replaced Scotch with Brandy for the grapes. |
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We now have a pathetic story tonight about Kellyanne Conway putting her feet on the Oval office Couch?
http://news.sky.com/story/kellyanne-...trage-10785305 Obama put his feet on the Desk in the Oval office. Did not see the fecking outcry when he did that.... Let's not go there with what Bill Clinton was said to have got up to with that Monica woman in there..... |
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However, Obama was merely following in the footsteps (;)) of his Republican predecessors.... :D https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2017/02/2.jpg https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2017/02/2.jpg btw, some "outcry" here.... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-outrage.html [quote] |
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* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs Just look at the face of a real liar in action. |
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I'm yet to see this social media outrage the story speaks of, this is what I mean about the media, big something up when it's not. |
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Most outlets aren't bigging it up: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.14a87a5b90d6
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Cost is pure logistics of him travelling in Air Force One and additional Secret Service Protection. President has to fly in that plane, as it said to be the Flying White House. You do know Trump is not taking his Presidential Salary ? $400K per year. I suppose when you're a Multi Billionaire : 400K is a drop in the Ocean. Also how he has wiped billions off the cost off the new Air Force One plane and Fighter Jets. As for closing of airports. It's not his fault he needs beefed up security from Secret Service to protect him from nutters threatening to kill him. ---------- Post added at 20:58 ---------- Previous post was at 20:57 ---------- Quote:
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I agree he needs Air Force One (fun fact, it's only Air Force One if the President is in it). I also know he isn't taking the Presidential salary but according to documents released whilst the Republicans were hunting down Obama's travel costs it's $200,000 a hour to fly Airforce One so it's rather negligible. The point stands though that he is already racking up these costs when he seems to insist on flying to Florida for the weekend which he will have done 4 out of the 6 weekends he has been President which is hypocritical when he frequently, along with the Republicans, slagged off Obama for it. Unless he stops altogether he is going to greatly exceed Obama's travel costs and time away from the White House. If he continues at this rate it will be astronomically more. ---------- Post added at 21:23 ---------- Previous post was at 21:21 ---------- Quote:
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Also I see you're missing the point he is travelling to one of his properties so he won't have accommodation costs to pay, so not quite the same costs of Obama. So while yes, Obama would have racked up costs with Air Force One, he would also have to pay for the accommodation as well. |
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He's either i) Not worked out how soft power works. ii) Realised he won't get away with cuts in this area but appreciates he has everything to gain by pretending to try. In this way, he will be seen by his supporters as trying to save money in unnecessary areas and they'll be happy. Quote:
You can't just knock everything back because the primary source is unavailable, that's impossibly unrealistic. You have to take what's available and take an informed view. |
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Everyone wondered if after he won he would pivot to be more statesman like. This might be the first sign of it. He looks also to be looking for a path for illegal migrants to become citizens, essentially the Obama proposal.
If he does indeed pivot away from his rhetoric and become a more normal President then that's encouraging, but let's see his actions first. |
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It will be interesting to see how the BBC treats it. Full speech here (starts 32 minute in) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCeZvwXh_4c |
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Yes. I listened to it on the World service. Very measured, not the usual rant style.
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Anyway I suspect going forward it will be pointless to criticise Trump as we all know full well I'll never have direct access to the literal invoices billed to the U.S Government. I am not even sure how they even bill things like Air Force One. For that matter I won't have direct access to most U.S Government paperwork. I will point out that this wasn't a standard applied to other Presidents. We've critised others based on leaks and news reports, few of us have direct access to the information, and when we were talking of Clinton's donations we didn't have direct links to the source material either. |
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Trump claim on terrorists originating abroad proved wrong by Cato Institute analysis
Trump's first address to Congress made the following false statement: "According to data provided by the Department of Justice, the vast majority of individuals convicted of terrorism and terrorism-related offences since 9/11 came here from outside of our country." Reality: 40 were for foreigners planning a terrorist attack on US soil whilst those convictions for US-born citizens totalled 92, or more than double those from abroad. Google "Trump claim on terrorists originating abroad undermined by data" subscription link https://www.ft.com/content/78d6953d-...0-5af221dde504 |
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That's bollocks, politico is well known for it's liberal agenda and I am damn well sure you know that, so don't try and cheapen the debate by making such sweeping statements. Quote:
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So, do you think that is acceptable then? It seems to me that in your attempt to nitpick the detail of the speech in order to attack Trump, you are missing the message glaring you in the face: Islamic terrorists are getting into the United States. Any President, not deluded by political correctness, will do all he can to stop even one entering the US. Are you planning to watch the whole speech at any time? |
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Btw, I agree with you that the President's speech was really good. He is showing his mettle after the initial furore of a frankly disrespectful media inc the beeb. |
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This is an interesting pro-Trump article from Michael J Boskin, professor of economics at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. Puts the current state of the administration into perspective. Even PassingBat may approve of it if he disregards the headline ;)
https://www.theguardian.com/business...akes-president |
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At last, a link with balance :) |
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The Grauniad readers don't like it though. I know, that really is a shock! ;) I think, with Trump, they are dealing with a different kind off President than the others mentioned. He has the Heartland of America behind him, and like Brexit supporters here, they have a tremendous passion and won't be happy if it is stopped by the establishment. Trumps brashness and bullishness is going to be important in this, and why I think is the man chosen for this time. Pushing through the agenda he has would not work under another leader. |
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'Step aside', very good of him. He's outright lied about taking to the Russians. If he'd been a Democrat he'd have been in jail by now. Early days for the Donald but lies/corruption seem to be a consistent theme in his administration.
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I have not seen no lies or corruption, you really need to get out of cuckoo land Mr K.
Sessions has done nothing wrong, even House Speaker Paul Ryan says the same : I find it hilarious this hypocrisy of the Democrats calling for him to go but not one of then uttered a word when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama's AG when he met with them on back of a plane, days before an FBI Investigation report into Hillary's private email server use was to be concluded. |
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What could possibly go wrong? Trump continues to increase the size of the Washington swamp as he gives into the gun industry lobby.
Donald Trump axes Barack Obama rule stopping mentally ill people buying guns |
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It was bad legislation Andrew a number of my friends who are not rabid 2nd amendment supporters criticised it as being far too general in it's terms. I can't say i follow US politics that closely but over general terms was a thing obama did often and we can only wait and see what donald replaces it with as it is going to be replaced.
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The way the legislation was worded bought it directly into conflict with the 2nd amendment and many people were affected by it that had no mental impairment or any history of such. That's why it was voted out and will be replaced, it is never better to leave a lousy law in place till a better one is available and there are additional laws in the firearms process that will cover everyone in the meantime.
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(unfortunately, when he met with the Russian Ambassador at the GOP Convention, he claimed expenses from his campaign funds, rather than his Senate expenses...) |
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As of yesterday, there is no evidence to support your assertion. None 3 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSebf8ERxQ Investigations are on going, so it surely would be better to wait a while before making unsubstantiated accusations. You may be right. You may be wrong; I don't know, but at the moment they are merely your personal views, not facts. |
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Until there is an acceptence by the liberal left that their agenda is not the only way and that there are many more losers then winners these political shocks will continue. People have had enough of globalisation and they are tired of being left behind and disadvantaged by a process they neither want or support and the most interesting point of it is how spectacularly the usual media tactics have backfired. What's even worse is rather then realise their mistake they just continue with the same tactics and are intensifying the doom aspect of it completely unaware seemingly that far from bringing people round they are actually alienating even more. Trump is a symbol of the problem not the cause and unlikely the solution but if things don't change there will be more shocks delivered by a growing fed up group of people.
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47 year old immature child, I'll take that.
Better than a 52 year old...................................well, yes, just better than a 52 year old. |
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For those still thinkong Trump was wrong about Sweden should have a listen to this. I may not agree with all her views but she has a point.
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Trump claiming Obama tapped his wires. No mention of a source though?
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Trump's latest tweet indicates that he just found out, Obama tapped his phone and Trump Tower prior to Election. Says this is Nixon/Watergate equivalent.
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Prolly got his info from Breitbart - is there someone in the WH who has connections there?
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