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RichardCoulter 16-02-2017 20:36

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35886076)
We have seen rumour that Quest Red may launch as early as March 15th on Virgin Media UK.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/...k-fta-channel/

Also Sky Cinema Greats will become Sky Cinema Oscars from Monday until March 5th.

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Move like:

TruTV closes with programming joining True Crime or Sony Channel and TruTV slot reuse for the relaunch of True Crime +1.

Sony did axe True Crime +1 on other networks yesterday.

We don't have True Crime on VM do we? If TruTV is replaced by True Crime, maybe we will.

SonicMaster 17-02-2017 21:02

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35886156)
We don't have True Crime on VM do we? If TruTV is replaced by True Crime, maybe we will.

Follow the sale of TruTV to Sony, I expect that once the period of duel broadcasting of TruTV and True Crime ends and the 2 channels are merged, they will replace TruTV with True Crime on the Virgin EPG on 212.

RichardCoulter 17-02-2017 21:23

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35886358)
Follow the sale of TruTV to Sony, I expect that once the period of duel broadcasting of TruTV and True Crime ends and the 2 channels are merged, they will replace TruTV with True Crime on the Virgin EPG on 212.

Lets hope so, anything that increases channel parity is welcome IMO.

OLD BOY 18-02-2017 11:39

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I suspect that Colours HD is not coming soon to Virgin Media, judging by this article.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201702184...#axzz4Z2Fxk4VY

Once again, Virgin is at the back of the queue for new channels, although at least we have the SD service. Nevertheless, it's a bit galling to see BT as well as Sky stealing a march on us.

Sadly, I don't think much is going to change where new channels are concerned, but hopefully VM can be the leaders in the provision of on demand content into the future.

theone2k10 18-02-2017 11:59

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886413)
I suspect that Colours HD is not coming soon to Virgin Media, judging by this article.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201702184...#axzz4Z2Fxk4VY

Once again, Virgin is at the back of the queue for new channels, although at least we have the SD service. Nevertheless, it's a bit galling to see BT as well as Sky stealing a march on us.

Sadly, I don't think much is going to change where new channels are concerned, but hopefully VM can be the leaders in the provision of on demand content into the future.

From what i can make out of the article BT are only managing the streams it is not going to be on BT TV,
come to think of it no international channels are on BTtv apart from the freeview ones.

denphone 18-02-2017 12:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886413)
I suspect that Colours HD is not coming soon to Virgin Media, judging by this article.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201702184...#axzz4Z2Fxk4VY

Once again, Virgin is at the back of the queue for new channels, although at least we have the SD service. Nevertheless, it's a bit galling to see BT as well as Sky stealing a march on us.

Sadly, I don't think much is going to change where new channels are concerned, but hopefully VM can be the leaders in the provision of on demand content into the future.

Why are you worrying about new channels ;) OB as your consistent stance has been that most of them will disappear in time as in your knowledgeable opinion streaming becomes the be all and end all of our watching.;)

OLD BOY 18-02-2017 12:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35886426)
Why are you worrying about new channels ;) OB as your consistent stance has been that most of them will disappear in time as in your knowledgeable opinion streaming becomes the be all and end all of our watching.;)

Den. You do understand that the views I have expressed on streaming relate to 20 years hence, don't you (although we are already starting to see the changes in viewing habits that will lead to this - in my humble opinion!).

For the here and now, content is available either free or in existing subscriptions that you cannot yet pick up through streaming, at least free of additional charges. So why would I wish to deny myself that content on the basis of what I think may happen years from now? Don't you think that would be daft?

As for Colours TV, I raised it because that is yet another example of Virgin missing out. I don't watch that channel myself, but others do, and if we are viewed as second best to our competitors, this will mean fewer subscribers and less investment for our services.

Unless, of course, Virgin add substantial new exclusive content to our on demand services. They've made a start on that but they need to go much further and make this content more visible, too.

passingbat 18-02-2017 12:49

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886432)
, I raised it because that is yet another example of Virgin missing out. I don't watch that channel myself, but others do, and if we are viewed as second best to our competitors, this will mean fewer subscribers and less investment for our services.

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Bar Sky Atlantic, VM have plenty of channels. Adding channels adds to the cost, which gets added to our prices. I'm glad that VM don't go chasing every new channel.

OLD BOY 18-02-2017 13:16

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35886435)
Bar Sky Atlantic, VM have plenty of channels. Adding channels adds to the cost, which gets added to our prices. I'm glad that VM don't go chasing every new channel.

I don't disagree with you, passingbat - I don't care that we haven't got the likes of Your TV, for example.

But we should get all of the good channels, such as Sky Atlantic, and although in a different league, AMC would be a useful addition, too. I believe that all channels we do get should now be in HD where available, given that this is the only way of getting a decent picture on larger screens. Given that Virgin are now offering UHD as part of their service, clearly they are looking to cater for those with the larger TV screens, so HD and UHD content must now form an important part of their strategy.

However, as I have said, as long as they make up for gaps elsewhere with sufficient OD alternatives, that would satisfy me.

theone2k10 18-02-2017 15:12

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886438)
I don't disagree with you, passingbat - I don't care that we haven't got the likes of Your TV, for example.

But we should get all of the good channels, such as Sky Atlantic, and although in a different league, AMC would be a useful addition, too. I believe that all channels we do get should now be in HD where available, given that this is the only way of getting a decent picture on larger screens. Given that Virgin are now offering UHD as part of their service, clearly they are looking to cater for those with the larger TV screens, so HD and UHD content must now form an important part of their strategy.

However, as I have said, as long as they make up for gaps elsewhere with sufficient OD alternatives, that would satisfy me.

This will shock Den but i think AMC could do with launching on vm as it could help boost it's viewing numbers up quite a lot.

OLD BOY 18-02-2017 16:52

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35886448)
This will shock Den but i think AMC could do with launching on vm as it could help boost it's viewing numbers up quite a lot.

I agree. The small numbers watching AMC are due to the small number of subscribers, presumably.

Actually, it's not a bad channel as channels go and would be a welcome addition to Virgin's EPG.

denphone 18-02-2017 17:36

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35886448)
This will shock Den but i think AMC could do with launching on vm as it could help boost it's viewing numbers up quite a lot.

:D

1andrew1 19-02-2017 10:00

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35886448)
This will shock Den but i think AMC could do with launching on vm as it could help boost it's viewing numbers up quite a lot.

It depends if viewers or BT's cash is more important. At the moment, it's the latter.

denphone 19-02-2017 10:18

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35886522)
It depends if viewers or BT's cash is more important. At the moment, it's the latter.

Cash is always king and l personally cannot see that changing despite the wise Nostradamus predictions of some on this forum.;)

RichardCoulter 20-02-2017 17:01

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As per another thread, Comedy Central seems to have dropped down to the lowest package*, not sure if this is temporary or not.

* I assume that they mean M+ as opposed to M (or their equivalents).

SonicMaster 20-02-2017 19:31

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35886715)
As per another thread, Comedy Central seems to have dropped down to the lowest package*, not sure if this is temporary or not.

* I assume that they mean M+ as opposed to M (or their equivalents).

Comedy Central was already available on M+ however Comedy Central HD and Comedy Central Extra are currently also available, so presumably another 'free period' that VM have failed to make customers aware of.

Media Boy UK 20-02-2017 22:06

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=== Before April ===
-Motorsport Network to rebrand Motors TV as Motorsport.tv on Virgin UK Channel 545.

=== Sometime in 2017 (Testing or Confirm) ===
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-Virgin Media UK will launch Viceland UK soon.
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RichardCoulter 21-02-2017 16:07

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35886753)
Comedy Central was already available on M+ however Comedy Central HD and Comedy Central Extra are currently also available, so presumably another 'free period' that VM have failed to make customers aware of.

Thanks for clarifying that SM.

OLD BOY 22-02-2017 10:24

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A new BBC channel for Scotland has been announced. Hopefully, its programmes will be made available nationwide.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39042666

Media Boy UK 22-02-2017 11:47

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886964)
A new BBC channel for Scotland has been announced. Hopefully, its programmes will be made available nationwide.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39042666

It will also have an HD Channel - info from your link.

Mad Max 22-02-2017 12:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35886964)
A new BBC channel for Scotland has been announced. Hopefully, its programmes will be made available nationwide.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39042666

I don't really get the bit where they wanted a Scottish News channel at 6pm, we have half an hour of Scottish news at 6.30pm every weekday night, i'm all for the new drama's etc but cannot see this as a real benefit, too much involvement from the SNP for my liking.

gba93 22-02-2017 12:46

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Obviously it's the BBC setting themselves up for a post-Independence Scotland.

mike_gain 22-02-2017 13:27

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35886979)
I don't really get the bit where they wanted a Scottish News channel at 6pm, we have half an hour of Scottish news at 6.30pm every weekday night, i'm all for the new drama's etc but cannot see this as a real benefit, too much involvement from the SNP for my liking.

I genuinely don't understand why we need to have a "Scottish Perspective" on the news.

The current 6:30 news programme covers Scotland (well Glasgow and Edinburgh) but this new 9pm show will cover news from all over but will be made in Scotland. Are people genuinely suggesting the coverage of world events will be better simply because it's made in Scotland? Seems like a waste of the budget.

Not against the channel but a news programme at 9pm seems bizarre.

passingbat 22-02-2017 13:41

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So does this mean that the BBC believes that if Scotland does have a second referendum, Scotland will vote to remain in the UK?


It seems a bit of a strange time to be announcing a Scottish channel in view of the SNP's attitude to Brexit, and a potential referendum.

mike_gain 22-02-2017 13:51

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35886999)
So does this mean that the BBC believes that if Scotland does have a second referendum, Scotland will vote to remain in the UK?


It seems a bit of a strange time to be announcing a Scottish channel in view of the SNP's attitude to Brexit, and a potential referendum.

The channel is a result of the charter renewal, which the Scottish Government had an involvement in for the first time. It's probably taken till now to iron out the details. Don't think it has any reflection on

a) whether indyref2 will occur
b) the outcome of any indyref2

passingbat 22-02-2017 14:13

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35887001)
The channel is a result of the charter renewal, which the Scottish Government had an involvement in for the first time. It's probably taken till now to iron out the details. Don't think it has any reflection on

a) whether indyref2 will occur
b) the outcome of any indyref2


Thanks for the background info.


So, if Scotland do, at some stage, go independent, where would Scotland stand with the BBC? Presumably they would have to pay the BBC for their services, or start a new broadcast service, SBC?

mike_gain 22-02-2017 14:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35887007)
Thanks for the background info.


So, if Scotland do, at some stage, go independent, where would Scotland stand with the BBC? Presumably they would have to pay the BBC for their services, or start a new broadcast service, SBC?

The "indyref1" white paper outlined plans for a SBS that would be publicly funded. But also suggested a formal arrangement with the BBC in order to provide access to BBC programming for Scottish viewers in return for providing the BBC with the same level of programming as BBC Scotland currently does.

EDIT:I should qualify the above, the White Paper was in many areas speculative and optimistic at best and misleading at worst. But in terms of broadcasting the £320 odd million currently raised in licence fees would probably cover an SBS but I suspect there would be some contention over the current BBC assets and whether SBS would be entitled to a per capita share of any assets, these assets being assumed as being available in the White Paper.

passingbat 22-02-2017 14:35

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35887009)
The "indyref1" white paper outlined plans for a SBS that would be publicly funded. But also suggested a formal arrangement with the BBC in order to provide access to BBC programming for Scottish viewers in return for providing the BBC with the same level of programming as BBC Scotland currently does.

EDIT:I should qualify the above, the White Paper was in many areas speculative and optimistic at best and misleading at worst. But in terms of broadcasting the £320 odd million currently raised in licence fees would probably cover an SBS but I suspect there would be some contention over the current BBC assets and whether SBS would be entitled to a per capita share of any assets, these assets being assumed as being available in the White Paper.


Thanks again for that info.

RichardCoulter 22-02-2017 23:21

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I wonder if this will be available nationwide on VM?

The BBC say that programming will be available nationwide both online and via the iPlayer, (but I'm assuming that it will be available on Freesat too).

VM currently carry the BBC nations, BBC Alba ect nationwide.

I do find it odd that the BBC closed BBC3 citing their funding problems, yet have found the money for this. Maybe it's getting external funding like BBC Alba??

I imagine that there are more young people in the UK than the population of Scotland too.

OLD BOY 23-02-2017 08:05

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I wonder if this is the reason the launch of Amazon on Virgin Media was delayed?

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201702224...#axzz4ZUf23G1d

nialli 23-02-2017 10:12

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887117)
I wonder if this is the reason the launch of Amazon on Virgin Media was delayed?

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201702224...#axzz4ZUf23G1d

Possibly. The Fire TV Stick is pretty neat and has a better lineup of apps than our TiVo one, which VM seems to have neglected in recent years.
I get Amazon through my Sony TV and have found the player to be less reliable than the TV's Netflix one, particularly with regard to picture quality. I also still think that the Netflix app on TiVo, even on the V6, is more flakey than my Sony version.
The Fire TV stick is still limited to 1080p BTW - you need the Fire box to access Amazon's 4k content.

Bananaman_007 23-02-2017 16:42

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So they close BBC3 due to lack of funds but then suddenly find 30 million for a programme budget for this BBC Scotland. I understand the launch of new channels has to go through the BBC Trust, not that they did much to save BBC3 will certainly be registering my disgust at this.

passingbat 23-02-2017 17:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887117)
I wonder if this is the reason the launch of Amazon on Virgin Media was delayed?

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201702224...#axzz4ZUf23G1d


A new interface is being progressively launched across all Amazon Fire TV devices, including first generation boxes and sticks. My first gen boxes have not been updated yet. Some US second gen boxes have.


Maybe Amazon want the new interface on the Tivo, if it is planned to arrive on Tivo?


There does not seem to be universal approval of the New Interface

mike_gain 23-02-2017 17:32

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Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35887192)
So they close BBC3 due to lack of funds but then suddenly find 30 million for a programme budget for this BBC Scotland. I understand the launch of new channels has to go through the BBC Trust, not that they did much to save BBC3 will certainly be registering my disgust at this.

Just to clarify £11 of that is existing funding. But £20M is still a fair whack of cash.

RichardCoulter 23-02-2017 17:57

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35887201)
Just to clarify £11 of that is existing funding. But £20M is still a fair whack of cash.

Is that what they will save by ceasing BBC2 scottish opt outs?

cheekyangus 23-02-2017 18:34

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I can't remember how much the broadcast part of the cost of BBC3 was. It still has a programme budget of course, since it still commissions programmes for iPlayer of which some then get repeated on BBC1 and 2.

Is the "existing funding" part of that BBC Scotland channel amount made up from the budget of BBC1? It is meant to be providing shows that can be used for the main UK network as well as this new channel.

I believe since there were rules with regard to what the BBC3 Freeview space could be used for the BBC had little choice with what they could do with it. They expanded one of the children's channels until 9pm but they aren't allowed to sell the remaining space to a 3rd party. Presumably this is the space that is being used for the channel. Rather than leave it doing nothing they view it as providing a use. The children's channel of course would have to go back to its original times in Scotland.

Given they announced similar new services and money for Wales (including a new Welsh iPlayer channel) the day before I don't see why they didn't use that space in Wales the same way. Unless it doesn't exist anymore for some other reason. They could make a regional channel for each of the English regions and NI too, taking the existing regional programmes from BBC1 and/or 2.

I was surprised when they didn't just make an extra Red Button channel from the BBC3 space, but they stopped it after Olympics.

cje85 23-02-2017 21:01

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35887211)
I believe since there were rules with regard to what the BBC3 Freeview space could be used for the BBC had little choice with what they could do with it. They expanded one of the children's channels until 9pm but they aren't allowed to sell the remaining space to a 3rd party.

They are selling the former BBC Three HD capacity: http://www.a516digital.com/2016/11/b...-freeview.html

The CBBC channel uses the bandwidth until 9pm but the new Scottish channel will broadcast from 7pm-midnight so it can't be using the former BBC Three capacity.

cheekyangus 23-02-2017 22:06

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Originally Posted by cje85 (Post 35887236)
They are selling the former BBC Three HD capacity: http://www.a516digital.com/2016/11/b...-freeview.html

The CBBC channel uses the bandwidth until 9pm but the new Scottish channel will broadcast from 7pm-midnight so it can't be using the former BBC Three capacity.

I wasn't talking about the HD capacity, I knew about the sell off.

For BBC Alba on Freeview they take BBC radio stations off air and use their multiplex space, so having a different setup in Scotland isn't unheard of. That's why I speculated they'd just revert the SD CBBC airtime for Scotland back to 7pm finish time, it's the easiest way to fit the new channel in on existing BBC space.

nodrogd 23-02-2017 22:21

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35887248)
I wasn't talking about the HD capacity, I knew about the sell off.

For BBC Alba on Freeview they take BBC radio stations off air and use their multiplex space, so having a different setup in Scotland isn't unheard of. That's why I speculated they'd just revert the SD CBBC airtime for Scotland back to 7pm finish time, it's the easiest way to fit the new channel in on existing BBC space.

With the service not launching until 2018 the Freeview allocations are bound to change. Frequencies at 700MHz start to be cleared in Scotland this month, along with the prospect of more muxes moving to DVB-T2 operation. If the main BBC mux moves to DVB-T2 there will certainly be room for more services.

cheekyangus 24-02-2017 10:29

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35887252)
With the service not launching until 2018 the Freeview allocations are bound to change. Frequencies at 700MHz start to be cleared in Scotland this month, along with the prospect of more muxes moving to DVB-T2 operation. If the main BBC mux moves to DVB-T2 there will certainly be room for more services.

If they were moving to T2 in time for launch they really would need to say now to give those of us with old equipment to replace it.

A map of the proposed 700MHz move I saw had the most populated areas of Scotland switch in 2019 as I recall so this wouldn't help with space for most. The areas allocated for this this year cover mostly rural, low population areas in the north.

RichardCoulter 24-02-2017 15:31

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 35887301)
If they were moving to T2 in time for launch they really would need to say now to give those of us with old equipment to replace it.

A map of the proposed 700MHz move I saw had the most populated areas of Scotland switch in 2019 as I recall so this wouldn't help with space for most. The areas allocated for this this year cover mostly rural, low population areas in the north.

Those working in the industry seem to believe that the PSB SD channels will be switched off around 2020.

The carrot to upgrade to T2 was extra channels eg 4Seven +1HD, Channel +1 HD, then some existing channels moved over. The stick will be when people realise that they will lose channels 1 to 5 etc unless they upgrade.

Reminds me of the various DSO strategies.

Martin_D 24-02-2017 16:30

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OLD BOY 24-02-2017 18:52

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The local channels for Basingstoke and Reading will be launched later this year, according to this article.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/02/e...singstoke.html

New local TV services for Basingstoke and Reading are expected to launch later this year and will appear on Freeview channel 7.

Mad Max 24-02-2017 19:09

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887350)
The local channels for Basingstoke and Reading will be launched later this year, according to this article.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/02/e...singstoke.html

New local TV services for Basingstoke and Reading are expected to launch later this year and will appear on Freeview channel 7.

Jesus H, how many tv channels do we need? You'd need to be up 24 hours a day seven days a week, with your eyes propped open with some sticks to watch all the crap that's coming our way!

OLD BOY 24-02-2017 19:12

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Jesus H, how many tv channels do we need? You'd need to be up 24 hours a day seven days a week, with your eyes propped open with some sticks to watch all the crap that's coming our way!

I'm afraid that crap is all we are likely to get with the local channels as well, if London Live is anything to go by.

nodrogd 25-02-2017 12:21

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People my age can remember the days when the seperate ITV companies used to make quality local programmes, such as "About Anglia" in our region. This was fine until they all got greedy & started buying eachother up. The government & OFCOM have tried to re-vitalise local programming, but on the cheap. You get what you pay for, & no one wants to put money into local programmes anymore.

alwaysabear 25-02-2017 16:33

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35887418)
People my age can remember the days when the seperate ITV companies used to make quality local programmes, such as "About Anglia" in our region. This was fine until they all got greedy & started buying eachother up. The government & OFCOM have tried to re-vitalise local programming, but on the cheap. You get what you pay for, & no one wants to put money into local programmes anymore.

Spot on, I used to enjoy the programs produced by Anglia, especially the nature ones and about Anglia.

Mad Max 25-02-2017 20:55

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35887447)
Spot on, I used to enjoy the programs produced by Anglia, especially the nature ones and about Anglia.

Naturist...............:D

theone2k10 25-02-2017 21:03

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HVC rumoured to be making a return (i wonder how many remember HVC from the telewest days?) anyway it will be free to full house and above customers and £5pm to other customers, content will be in HD and advert free.

Aguero9320 25-02-2017 22:00

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HVC rumoured to be making a return (i wonder how many remember HVC from the telewest days?) anyway it will be free to full house and above customers and £5pm to other customers, content will be in HD and advert free.

Don't think that will happen. I'm sure the company went bust about 20 years ago.

theone2k10 25-02-2017 22:45

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Don't think that will happen. I'm sure the company went bust about 20 years ago.

They did but nothing stopping someone from purchasing the name "home video channel" which the rumour suggests viacom have done, as i said though it's a rumour i'm waiting for a reliable source to get back to me about this.
If memory serves me you purchased HVC and the Adult channel was thrown in too.
Obviously this time around the adult channel won't be included lol.

ozsat 26-02-2017 09:52

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I think that 'Home Video Channel' still exists an entity from the original company..

The 'HVC' film channel was sold and merged into another film channel - but the HVC company itself went on to launch The Adult Channel.

I think even to this day - those who purchase programming from 'The Adult Channel' see 'Home Video Channel' on their statements.

Perhaps they are involved or have released the name to somebody else.

OLD BOY 26-02-2017 11:19

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35887473)
HVC rumoured to be making a return (i wonder how many remember HVC from the telewest days?) anyway it will be free to full house and above customers and £5pm to other customers, content will be in HD and advert free.

Interesting. Do tell us if you establish that this would be exclusive to Virgin Media and the type of programming it will carry.

theone2k10 26-02-2017 11:34

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35887490)
I think that 'Home Video Channel' still exists an entity from the original company..

The 'HVC' film channel was sold and merged into another film channel - but the HVC company itself went on to launch The Adult Channel.

I think even to this day - those who purchase programming from 'The Adult Channel' see 'Home Video Channel' on their statements.

Perhaps they are involved or have released the name to somebody else.

Could be yes.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887497)
Interesting. Do tell us if you establish that this would be exclusive to Virgin Media and the type of programming it will carry.

We think it'll be a VM exclusive as it was exclusive to Telewest before (don't know about NTL and others).

ozsat 26-02-2017 11:53

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'HMV' was a biked service for Croydon Cable and another I think. These were taken over by Telewest.

It did crop up for distribution on satellite for a short time.

RichardCoulter 26-02-2017 17:11

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Biked service??

Not heard of this channel before, was it a prelude to VOD?

Arthurgray50@blu 26-02-2017 19:22

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Today l saw a new channel called 'talking pictures tv' and it shows old films and is free to air.

Does anyone know if this channel is coming to VM

ozsat 26-02-2017 19:24

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A biked channel was once which had its tapes delivered to the cable companies by courier (bike). I guess to know I meant HVC and not a well-known music shop :-)
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35887548)
Biked service??

Not heard of this channel before, was it a prelude to VOD?



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It is an super channel and carries quite a bit of Southern TV (ex ITV South from the 70s) material.

Most local tv channels carry six hours of it each day.
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35887562)
Today l saw a new channel called 'talking pictures tv' and it shows old films and is free to air.

Does anyone know if this channel is coming to VM


theone2k10 26-02-2017 22:49

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35887562)
Today l saw a new channel called 'talking pictures tv' and it shows old films and is free to air.

Does anyone know if this channel is coming to VM

Not in the near future, talking pictures has been broadcasting for quite awhile now on sky, freesat and freeview.
http://talkingpicturestv.co.uk/

RichardCoulter 27-02-2017 00:15

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35887563)
A biked channel was once which had its tapes delivered to the cable companies by courier (bike). I guess to know I meant HVC and not a well-known music shop :-).

Lol, thanks for explaining, I'd not heard that expression before :D

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35887593)
Not in the near future, talking pictures has been broadcasting for quite awhile now on sky, freesat and freeview.
http://talkingpicturestv.co.uk/

But as Ozsat says, Arthur's local TV channel may broadcast a fair chunk of its output. On VM this is channel 159, not sure about the other platforms.

OLD BOY 27-02-2017 07:47

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35887600)


But as Ozsat says, Arthur's local TV channel may broadcast a fair chunk of its output. On VM this is channel 159, not sure about the other platforms.

Just shows what a waste of money these local channels are. If old black and white material that is available elsewhere is being regurgitated on the local channels, what on earth is the point of them? If I ever tuned into a local channel, I would be wanting to see the local news - and preferably not from 40 years ago!!

denphone 27-02-2017 07:58

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A total waste of money IMO.

nodrogd 27-02-2017 10:23

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35887600)


But as Ozsat says, Arthur's local TV channel may broadcast a fair chunk of its output. On VM this is channel 159, not sure about the other platforms.

AFAIK TPTV only have agreements with the "That's TV" run local channels, plus those in Northern Ireland, Brighton & Swansea.

theone2k10 27-02-2017 12:26

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35887600)
Lol, thanks for explaining, I'd not heard that expression before :D



But as Ozsat says, Arthur's local TV channel may broadcast a fair chunk of its output. On VM this is channel 159, not sure about the other platforms.

Made in Birmingham is on sky 117 i think i don't take much notice lol.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887609)
Just shows what a waste of money these local channels are. If old black and white material that is available elsewhere is being regurgitated on the local channels, what on earth is the point of them? If I ever tuned into a local channel, I would be wanting to see the local news - and preferably not from 40 years ago!!

Absolutely agree if i were to watch a local channel i'd want it to be programming about the local area and nearby surroundings, i'd like to see content such as local news, local events etc.

jj20x 27-02-2017 13:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35887612)
A total waste of money IMO.

Sheffield Live certainly seems to be, for 17 hours out of every 24 it relays Sheffield Live community radio with a photo slide show. The relatively few actual TV hours contain programmes in such well known Sheffield dialects as Arabic and Urdu. The minority communities are well catered for, local news and current affairs coverage seems like an afterthought.

Made in Leeds is better but whenever I've tuned in it seems to be showing weather updates or footage of the streets of Leeds filmed from a car. That or 1940's Sherlock Holmes films.

nodrogd 27-02-2017 13:38

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Here in West Herts we had the first local cable channel to be launched in the UK (West Herts TV). They occupied two rooms at Telecential's Hemel base & put out 3 to 4 programmes a month on channel 6 of our old analogue system. The rest of the time was just a rolling text service of local events to the accompaniment of Sky Radio, (the Dutch music channel, nothing to do with UK Sky). Comtel scrapped the service a couple of years before digital was introduced.

vincerooney 27-02-2017 19:34

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stupid question: is there a way to get things like all 4 on the tivo? the whole "box sets" thing and "catch up on demand" menu options miss most things i find.

Media Boy UK 27-02-2017 20:38

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Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35887192)
So they close BBC3 due to lack of funds but then suddenly find 30 million for a programme budget for this BBC Scotland. I understand the launch of new channels has to go through the BBC Trust, not that they did much to save BBC3 will certainly be registering my disgust at this.

The BBC save £30m by moving BBC3 online.

The BBC3 online channel still cost £30m.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...nel-to-be.html

I can see BBC Two Scotland close with all the "Scottish shows" moving to BBC Scotland* - * as confirmed last week.

BBC is only adding £19m of new money - But BBC Scotland need to make £20m of UK Wide shows.

All the info was confirmed last week.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...or-bbc-in.html

Bananaman_007 27-02-2017 22:07

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35887734)
The BBC save £30m by moving BBC3 online.

The BBC3 online channel still cost £30m.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...nel-to-be.html

I can see BBC Two Scotland close with all the "Scottish shows" moving to BBC Scotland* - * as confirmed last week.

BBC is only adding £19m of new money - But BBC Scotland need to make £20m of UK Wide shows.

All the info was confirmed last week.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...or-bbc-in.html

If your numbers are correct that is still 19 million of new money that was very much serving a greater need in my opinion.
I am 33 years old and do not feel that BBC caters for me in the slightest now they have done away with the BBC3 channel. Also because the budget for programming has shrunk (i seem to remember something about 12 million a year now they are online) they are taking far less risks. The type of shows they are commissioning for this online BBC3 have to also be suitable for a showing on BBC1 or 2, which i feel is stunting the type of content that the service is commissioning. They wasted money on a Top Gear spin off, FFS is that something that we really needed when nobody was watching the main Top Gear utter waste of time and money, but of course they did that because it was still a much safer option than something new. The BBC has a huge drama budget, i also do not want to see the BBC using money that is for BBC3 to basically commission and show dramas for BBC2 under the guise of this is BBC3. Where is the comedy that we were promised? We were promised the remit of this online BBC3 was going to be made you laugh or made you think and so far its done neither.

I was unhappy with the way it was the done but was a bit more accepting that ok there was a greater need for the BBC3 money. However that need was not to launch a +1 timeshift of BBC1, extend the hours of CBBC or launch BBC Scotland.

The gaul of it all is, i am forced to fund the BBC through a license fee i strongly oppose, because i choose to watch broadcast TV from other broadcasters that do provide a product that interests me.

Why do the Scottish get their own channel anyway? What about a service for the Welsh, English or Northern Irish? We all contribute to the license fee and do not have dedicated services.

RichardCoulter 27-02-2017 22:36

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35887672)
Sheffield Live certainly seems to be, for 17 hours out of every 24 it relays Sheffield Live community radio with a photo slide show. The relatively few actual TV hours contain programmes in such well known Sheffield dialects as Arabic and Urdu. The minority communities are well catered for, local news and current affairs coverage seems like an afterthought.

Made in Leeds is better but whenever I've tuned in it seems to be showing weather updates or footage of the streets of Leeds filmed from a car. That or 1940's Sherlock Holmes films.

Made In Leeds is my local channel. I never watch it, but have just taken a look and they seem to have an old black & white film every afternoon.

I'm not sure if this is a Talking Pictures tie up or not.

jj20x 27-02-2017 23:54

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35887673)
Here in West Herts we had the first local cable channel to be launched in the UK (West Herts TV). They occupied two rooms at Telecential's Hemel base & put out 3 to 4 programmes a month on channel 6 of our old analogue system. The rest of the time was just a rolling text service of local events to the accompaniment of Sky Radio, (the Dutch music channel, nothing to do with UK Sky). Comtel scrapped the service a couple of years before digital was introduced.

Speaking of cable based local tv, Sheffield Cablevision was around in the 70s and ultimately closed when it ran out of cash. I wonder if the schedule was more appealing than the current one on Sheffield Live TV. Perhaps Sheffield Live will eventually have a similar demise...

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Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35887747)
Why do the Scottish get their own channel anyway? What about a service for the Welsh, English or Northern Irish? We all contribute to the license fee and do not have dedicated services.

Wales gets its own iplayer only channel, plans for NI are still to be announced. Nothing has been mentioned so far for England, so that's probably what we'll get... nothing.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35887751)
Made In Leeds is my local channel. I never watch it, but have just taken a look and they seem to have an old black & white film every afternoon.

I'm not sure if this is a Talking Pictures tie up or not.

Technically, I'm not in the catchment area of Made In Leeds, but can receive it about 95% of the time from Emley Moor, although not on VM. It has been showing old monochrome films for quite some time, as far as I know, not tied in with Talking Pictures.

heavyside 28-02-2017 08:03

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35887723)
stupid question: is there a way to get things like all 4 on the tivo? the whole "box sets" thing and "catch up on demand" menu options miss most things i find.

This is a glaring omission from TiVo. I wish there was an app to watch it - especially as Channel 4 and all its siblings are taxpayer funded. There are lots of good box sets on All 4 denied to TiVo customers without one of the newer smart TVs which often have a dedicated app.

1andrew1 28-02-2017 11:03

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35887777)
This is a glaring omission from TiVo. I wish there was an app to watch it - especially as Channel 4 and all its siblings are taxpayer funded. There are lots of good box sets on All 4 denied to TiVo customers without one of the newer smart TVs which often have a dedicated app.

I've got a 2016 4K Samsung TV and it hasn't got All 4. (It has got Now TV, Amazon, Netflix, iPlayer, ITV Hub, My5, Curzon and Wuaki!)
A cheap Now TV, Roku or Amazon box, YouView or Freeview Play TV/PVR seem to be the best bets of getting All 4.

Strictly speaking, Channel 4 is not taxpayer-funded, it's advertising-funded. But its statutorily high EPG rankings give it a leg-up compared to other advertising-funded channels.

heavyside 28-02-2017 12:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35887792)
Strictly speaking, Channel 4 is not taxpayer-funded, it's advertising-funded. But its statutorily high EPG rankings give it a leg-up compared to other advertising-funded channels.

I stand corrected. Channel 4 - including All 4 - is certainly a public service broadcaster and AFAIK falls under the remit of the Department for Culture, Media and Sport. Whatever the ins and outs of the service I do think that All 4, as an integral part of a public service provider, should be available via our TiVos.

1andrew1 28-02-2017 13:48

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35887800)
I stand corrected. Channel 4 - including All 4 - is certainly a public service broadcaster and AFAIK falls under the remit of the Department for Culture, Media and Sport. Whatever the ins and outs of the service I do think that All 4, as an integral part of a public service provider, should be available via our TiVos.

I think All 4 seems to be the tricky one out of the four PSBs for getting its app onto the widest range of devices.

jj20x 28-02-2017 14:21

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35887723)
stupid question: is there a way to get things like all 4 on the tivo? the whole "box sets" thing and "catch up on demand" menu options miss most things i find.

From the menu: On Demand - Box Sets - Channels - All 4

That's about as good as it gets. ;)

Ddonald2016 28-02-2017 14:24

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We was told we would before end of February have the relaunched TV anywhere app with 3G and 4g and virgin store end of February not a whisper

alwaysabear 28-02-2017 14:29

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35887792)
I've got a 2016 4K Samsung TV and it hasn't got All 4. (It has got Now TV, Amazon, Netflix, iPlayer, ITV Hub, My5, Curzon and Wuaki!)
A cheap Now TV, Roku or Amazon box, YouView or Freeview Play TV/PVR seem to be the best bets of getting All 4.

Strictly speaking, Channel 4 is not taxpayer-funded, it's advertising-funded. But its statutorily high EPG rankings give it a leg-up compared to other advertising-funded channels.

I have SAMSUNG UE49KU6670 Smart 4k Ultra HD HDR 49" Curved TV,it is only after reading your comment that I realised All 4 was missing. I have it on my Samsung BD-H6500 Smart 3D Blu-ray Player how odd.

Ultimate.Conj 28-02-2017 15:39

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35887819)
We was told we would before end of February have the relaunched TV anywhere app with 3G and 4g and virgin store end of February not a whisper

Yeah I thought they were re-launching the Virgin Store with a buy and keep element with it. Wonder if any 4k UHD movies will be available?

denphone 28-02-2017 15:40

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35887836)
Yeah I thought they were re-launching the Virgin Store with a buy and keep element with it. Wonder if any 4k UHD movies will be available?

Maybe its been delayed till next year.;)

Ultimate.Conj 28-02-2017 15:50

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35887837)
Maybe its been delayed till next year.;)

Haha probably! Some V6 boxes have been prone to a black screen bug, so maybe they sorting that out first, who knows lol

Ddonald2016 28-02-2017 16:49

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35887820)
I have SAMSUNG UE49KU6670 Smart 4k Ultra HD HDR 49" Curved TV,it is only after reading your comment that I realised All 4 was missing. I have it on my Samsung BD-H6500 Smart 3D Blu-ray Player how odd.

I have all 4 on a 2015 Samsung TV

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35887837)
Maybe its been delayed till next year.;)

So without even that the only UHD we pay for and also the revamped TV anywhere that works with the virgin store had been delayed

RichardCoulter 28-02-2017 17:09

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35887818)
From the menu: On Demand - Box Sets - Channels - All 4

That's about as good as it gets. ;)

Does this give the same content as All 4?

heavyside 28-02-2017 17:18

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35887818)
From the menu: On Demand - Box Sets - Channels - All 4

That's about as good as it gets. ;)

That's a kind of cut-down version of All 4. The full-fat version has more programmes including 'Walter Presents' (I think it's called) which has some interesting foreign series.

jj20x 28-02-2017 18:36

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35887869)
Does this give the same content as All 4?

No but that's probably due to the content being held on VM's servers for delivery by nVOD rather than IP delivery from Channel 4's servers.

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35887872)
That's a kind of cut-down version of All 4. The full-fat version has more programmes including 'Walter Presents' (I think it's called) which has some interesting foreign series.

That's what I meant by "that's about as good as it gets".

OLD BOY 28-02-2017 18:39

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35887872)
That's a kind of cut-down version of All 4. The full-fat version has more programmes including 'Walter Presents' (I think it's called) which has some interesting foreign series.

Yes, but the full-fat version is peppered with unskippable commercials, so that is a big no-no for me.

SonicMaster 28-02-2017 21:30

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Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35887872)
That's a kind of cut-down version of All 4. The full-fat version has more programmes including 'Walter Presents' (I think it's called) which has some interesting foreign series.

It's the same for some of the other services like ITV Hub and My5 which aren't actually available as a proper app on Virgin Media, just a selection of shows in Catch Up from the last week. It's a surprise that they haven't been caught for false advertising.

theone2k10 28-02-2017 22:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887883)
Yes, but the full-fat version is peppered with unskippable commercials, so that is a big no-no for me.

Easy way around that turn off ad blocker until programme starts then turn ad blocker back on and bingo it tricks the site into thinking no ad blocker is running and the show plays advert free.(web browser only)

jj20x 28-02-2017 23:06

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35887913)
It's the same for some of the other services like ITV Hub and My5 which aren't actually available as a proper app on Virgin Media, just a selection of shows in Catch Up from the last week. It's a surprise that they haven't been caught for false advertising.

ITV Hub and Channel 5 have 7 day catch up content as you say, but ITV box sets are available on demand with the ITV Collections branding rather than ITV Hub. Channel 5's on demand content is somewhat lacking.

OLD BOY 01-03-2017 07:50

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35887921)
ITV Hub and Channel 5 have 7 day catch up content as you say, but ITV box sets are available on demand with the ITV Collections branding rather than ITV Hub. Channel 5's on demand content is somewhat lacking.

That's right. As I recall it, the catch up services with their 7 day window for playback were in place before the more comprehensive services available through the internet, on Smart TVs, Roku, etc, so no false advertising there. I think it is good that Virgin offer a 'no ads during programmes' option.

I've always viewed the ITV Collections as being our substitute for ITV Encore!

I guess it's up to Channel 5 what content they put on, but there's not much I ever watch on that channel anyway.

SonicMaster 01-03-2017 10:36

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887938)
That's right. As I recall it, the catch up services with their 7 day window for playback were in place before the more comprehensive services available through the internet, on Smart TVs, Roku, etc, so no false advertising there. I think it is good that Virgin offer a 'no ads during programmes' option.

I've always viewed the ITV Collections as being our substitute for ITV Encore!

I guess it's up to Channel 5 what content they put on, but there's not much I ever watch on that channel anyway.

There definitely is false advertising. They just haven't got in trouble for it.

VM's website specifically states that their TV service includes the ITV Hub and All 4 apps, but it does not. Simple as that.

OLD BOY 01-03-2017 10:51

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35887958)
There definitely is false advertising. They just haven't got in trouble for it.

VM's website specifically states that their TV service includes the ITV Hub and All 4 apps, but it does not. Simple as that.

Well, it does, actually, SM. Just not the latest incarnations of them, and I think it's the same for Sky. I repeat, catch up services were on TV before the internet versions arrived.

There is a clear choice here. The full version with unskippable commercials, and the version that has less content but no ads interrupting the programmes.

Both versions have their attractions. Personally, I prefer the version that is not peppered with advertisements. Incidentally, it was not Virgin Media who named them, it was the TV companies!

muppetman11 01-03-2017 11:20

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Quite a lot of Catch up on Sky is 30 days.

Media Boy UK 01-03-2017 11:52

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Sky Cinema has confirmed that Sky Cinema Sci-Fi and Horror will become Sky Cinema Monsters from Monday.

Until the end of March.

Also Motors TV has become Motorsport.tv HD.

SonicMaster 01-03-2017 12:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35887961)
Well, it does, actually, SM. Just not the latest incarnations of them, and I think it's the same for Sky. I repeat, catch up services were on TV before the internet versions arrived.

There is a clear choice here. The full version with unskippable commercials, and the version that has less content but no ads interrupting the programmes.

Both versions have their attractions. Personally, I prefer the version that is not peppered with advertisements. Incidentally, it was not Virgin Media who named them, it was the TV companies!

No, it doesn't, actually, OB.

The apps are specific services with their own user interface and a full range of content, available on lots of devices including Smart TVs, set top boxes, games consoles, phones and tablets etc. BBC iPlayer on VM is one of these.

ITV Hub, All 4 and Channel 5 on VM are nothing more than the standard 7 days of Catch Up included in VM's own system. That is not the same.

Completely different things, that have some content in common, not different versions of the same thing!

RichardCoulter 01-03-2017 12:28

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35887971)
Sky Cinema has confirmed that Sky Cinema Sci-Fi and Horror will become Sky Cinema Monsters from Monday.

Until the end of March.

Also Motors TV has become Motorsport.tv HD.

Still showing as Motors TV on my TiVo with no extra HD variant.

Edit: Apparently, on Sky it is showing a loop stating that it changed name and went HD today- in SD!

Bloomberg HD started today on satellite, wonder if this will come to VM?

OLD BOY 01-03-2017 13:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35887974)
No, it doesn't, actually, OB.

The apps are specific services with their own user interface and a full range of content, available on lots of devices including Smart TVs, set top boxes, games consoles, phones and tablets etc. BBC iPlayer on VM is one of these.

ITV Hub, All 4 and Channel 5 on VM are nothing more than the standard 7 days of Catch Up included in VM's own system. That is not the same.

Completely different things, that have some content in common, not different versions of the same thing!

Well, I'm not going to argue about the apps and VM service being different because clearly, they are. But the main point I was making is that it was the broadcasting companies that named them, not Virgin Media.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35887965)
Quite a lot of Catch up on Sky is 30 days.

I know that the Sky, Fox and other pay tv channels are 30 days, but is that also the case for the ITV Hub, All4 and My 5 services?

muppetman11 01-03-2017 14:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
I certainly seem to be able to get shows off some of those channels thats over 7 days.

denphone 01-03-2017 14:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Its a bit disappointing one can only get 7 days with ITV compared to BBC's iPlayer.

OLD BOY 01-03-2017 15:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35887995)
Its a bit disappointing one can only get 7 days with ITV compared to BBC's iPlayer.

I think the difference is that the BBC does not have revenue from advertising factored into what they can and can't do, Den.


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