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I think people are trying to move away from nasty bullying tactics.

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Yes indeed as there are no excuses in my mind for any type of racism but we must not pigeon hole the vast majority of Leave voters who are not racist or bigoted at all as they made their decision for what they felt was in the best interests of this country going forward.

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Den, you misunderstand. I am *NOT* saying for one minute that the vast majority of Leave voters support this and I would be disappointed if you think I am.

However, without a strong condemnation from *all* the Remain leaders, the idiots who are doing this will feel that their actions are, in some way, legitimate.

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No of course l don't think you are ianch as l quite agree in that all the main leaders of their political parties need to condemn in the strongest possible language any of sort of racism and violence.

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I listened to the PM's statement on the referendum result and to a good hour and a bit of questions and answers afterwards.

It was interesting on many levels, not least of which being that he suggested the UK will know what kind of relationship it wants to seek with the EU before hitting the article 50 button.

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Racists are ignorant knuckle draggers and are absolutely nothing to do with leave voters or in anyway represent them this is just their latest excuse to attack people and it's not like they need much. For the ones commiting racist acts it doesn't matter who condemns them because they don't care and I've seen it for myself as we had a card posted through our letterbox this afternoon telling us "to go home, your not wanted". I assume it was meant for my eastern European neighbours but I'm happy for them to think my house is the one so my neighbours don't have to deal with it.

Have had the same thing happen at least once a year so it's a bit of a ritual now pick it off the floor, look at it, laugh and put it in the bin. Racism is ever present in a very small minority and always will be there are no more racists this week then there were before the referendum.

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but there are a lot more racists incidents it seems.

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Just as well my pension isn't dependent on the stock market, FTSE 250 has fallen 14% in the last 2 days , the worst since 1987. Sterling is plummeting so we can say goodbye to holidays abroad, and a recession is predicted for 2017 which will be nice... Project Fear is proving very accurate so far.
Remind me what the benefits of leaving were? Money for the NHS? No that was a lie. Less immigration, apparently not. A lot who voted leave are scratching their heads today; for once they can't totally blame politicians.

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I often wish that there was some magic spell that would temporarily transform racists so that they would be forced into the footsteps of people who they detest in order that they could experience what racism is like when they are on the receiving end.

Maybe then they would understand better what it is like to be persecuted, disrespected, humiliated, ill-treated and hated.

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So the exact opposite of what he was saying during the campaign .I certainly do not favour invoking A50 immediately if at all but you would think an experienced statesman like Cameron would know that invoking A50 without a plan going forward is just plain nuts

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Police say there has been a 57% increase in reporting of hate crimes since last Friday as there were 85 reports between Thursday 23 –Sunday 26 June compared with 54 reports the corresponding 4 days four weeks ago but they do stress that this is increase in reporting to one portal but not an increase in actual incidents.

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To be honest i think they where just as racist last week/last year they just had a different justification for it in their simple little minds

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Agreed. It would be very foolish to meet to negotiate with the EU without having a few options prepared first.

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Indeed l quite agree as l remember in the 70's and 80's when it was much worse and what is was like for many of our family as we faced racist taunts and abuse a fair bit especially when we went to School and l remember one incident when my parents had a New Year party and somebody brought along a friend and he came out with some racist remarks about us and my Dad and brothers found out and before l knew it my brother planted one on the man and knocked him out stone cold and then faced a charge from the police soon afterwards.

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More people seem to be committing racist abuse though and I would say that whilst it's a minority it's not really that small. As denphone says there is evidence of an increase in hate crimes and anecdotally it is being noticed as well. It doesn't matter if there are 'no more racists than before' the referendum seems to have emboldened them.

We all need to watch this. Both condemn it and also remember how ignoring legitimate concerns over immigration can make the issue worse.

Everyone now needs to watch this, Remain or Leave. Because if people are lied too again on immigration then we'll be feeding this beast. If Boris and Gove do plan to take the EEA route with freedom of movement having run a campaign that tapped into those concerns then they deserve plenty of criticism for stoking up an issue they never intended to address.

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The only way you avoid the freedom of movement requirement is probably not to trade with the EU or the EEA.

This means trading with other countries outside Europe. Whether we could cope satisfactorily is a moot question.

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I am sorry to hear that. It's never nice to be subjected to racist treatment.

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We will know if Brexit effects immigration over the coming months. I can see a situation where immigrants now head to Scotland. As England and Wales were majority Brexit and the whole of Scotland are remain.

An Alex Salmond has basically said Scotland is open and welcomes immigrants, could be a repeat of Merkel and the amazingly good effect she had on convincing migrants how open and tolerant Germany is. Time will tell, hopefully although we need to control immigration to a point it doesn't put off migrants heading to England.

Although if Scotland are determined to stay in the EU after Brexit, if I was thinking of migrating to then UK right now I guess it would make sense to head to Scotland.

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Posted by FT Economics Editor, from http://www.llewellyn-consulting.com/

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/06/11.jpg

Their clients can probably find ways to preserve wealth. Not a good time to be retiring imminently though for 'normal' mortals. Fingers crossed that they are wrong.

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We can still trade with the EU just as easily as America,Australia,China,India etc,etc possibly even easier as we have all the standards and regulations required,i have always said throughout the campaign that trade with the EU after Brexit is the least of our worries

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Word is Plaid Cymru will be pushing for Welsh independence. Utterly utterly stupid idea.

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+1

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Standard and Poors just cut the UK credit rating to AA

no link yet Sky breaking news

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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/27/sp-cu...-from-aaa.html

Expected.

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That's refugees they're sending back not eu citizens. ..

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I think it's a great idea, I'd vote for it if able

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Is it that big a deal ?

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Depends what they're trying to achieve. I doubt it's independence any time soon.

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Project Fear. Our economy is awesome.

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Dunno. Not great. Not really sure how bad either. :dunce:

It was one of the warnings before the referendum so I am guessing it's already been priced in by the markets.

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I'm just thinking of all the Austerity we had to endure to maintain the AAA at all costs .Osborne's gonna be gutted ...again

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I think he wants nothing to do with it anymore. He is going to palm off as much of the work to the next guy as possible.

It is rather ironic how many years they spent defending that rating as a point of pride and how much the last 6 years of austerity has been put into perspective by a mere three days. :arm:

My bigger worry is not the economy now but that many Leave voters in working class, deprived, areas seem to have a completely wrong idea of what is going to happen next. I was watching a news report on Channel 4 where they seemed so happy and were saying the factories would open again, there will be loads of jobs, that there will be council homes again and a small few said the migrants would be gone.

I think they're going to be disappointed and unless the governments shifts their focus to these regions and pours in a ton of investment, irrespective of the EU issue, then we have a critical problem building here. The anger, the resentment, the disillusionment will toxic. I am talking far-right surges here. :(

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The problem for us at the moment is that the process of electing a new PM and deciding on a negotiating strategy is taking too long.

It's been less than a week since the EU referendum yet the value of the pound has dropped dramatically.

We cannot wait until September 2nd 2016 as by then the level of uncertainty and panic will be so high and the damage to the pound and the economy so great that we may never recover.

Parliament needs to suspend current business and get on with the task in hand. Once that is done we'll all have a better idea of what happens next and maybe markets will settle down bringing some degree of normality.

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We could prosecute, but cutting their knackers off might work better.
Surprised myself there, I thought I beleived in reformation of offenders.. Poor education, and an increasingly divided society is at the heart of it.

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Expected, how can we be AAA during a period of instability, the one thing markets hate. Let's see how we are in 6 months.

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Bet they still go on the summer break

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I agree. We can't wait. Cameron shouldn't be the one doing this but we can't wait for the Boris show to finish for Gove to stop hiding. He needs to start working on a deal now.

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Indeed. At the moment short termism and speculators are driving the markets and sterling. Once the dust settles and saner minds prevail then we can judge.

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Rest assured their holidays have already been booked.

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Credit agencies don't downgrade a country by two notches on a whim or on a few weeks of instability. That's how we largely kept it after the 2008 crisis.

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Apparently such an abrupt reduction has never been seen before

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hope they got their euro's last week;)

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We kept AAA from Standard and Poors in 2008. Our national debt went from 37% of our economy to 72% in 3 years and we kept AAA.

Worth reading their explanation for why this happened.

As far as this being short-term you are right - we're on notice that if we don't get our excrement together it's going lower.

Losing AAA means it's no longer considered a prime asset so some funds cannot invest in it.

This is balanced by that the market is currently in a blind panic so is buying UK gilts to seek safety.

Moodys are also threatening us with downgrade.

So that'd be the EEA. There is no other deal that provides such access.

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How can the EEA be an option given the central promise of the Leave campaign?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...nd_obligations

What am I missing here?

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I'm thinking that we just have to accept freedom of movement but we need to manage it better for the people in the UK to make it tolerable.

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How?

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I'm absolutely disgusted at the way Cameron and his IN cronies are handling this. he was elected by the British people to lead this country he asked us to chose and we did.

But things didn't go his way he has an obligation along with every MP to make sure this country is on the right track instead of comments like *bleep* let them sort it out why should I sort this mess out.

I mean that is your job. should we never have another GE because the next PM wont want to sort the country out to only have to hand it over to another PM how ridiculous. same with Osbourne I'll just do enough but I wont really try because it didn't go my way.

This is peoples lives they are messing with and the country as a whole. they even need to sort out the MP's on the Con side they are also making snide abusive comments towards the leave side. it's pathetic the new leader needs to sack the mouthy ones.

As for being Racist well a lot of people now think 50% of the country is regardless of whether you are or not simply because you voted out of the EU makes you a Racist.

They need to look at their own countries they are more Racist than we are and they are playing on it. Its the whole "is it because I is black syndrome"

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Well it's not like he didn't spend most of his time warning of this is it?

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Gotta love how the man responsible for so much of this is getting off Scot free hell even being praised by some as a great statesman lmao, David Cameron is a damn coward. He went off to the EU in February talking tough got nothing of real substance but came back pretending he had obtained a good deal, he campaigns all through the referendum saying whatever the vote he'll carry on and saying if leave won he'd implement article 50 and completely goes back on both. Then to top it off he quits but doesn't actually quit stalling the whole nation and we the public tear into each other over how we voted, a vote that only happened because once again Cameron was a coward and took the easy way out on dealing with ukip and his own party. Great statesman he is anything but and he should either start sorting out the mess he created or get out of the way now and let someone take over as fast as possible to sort things out.

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So it's Cameron to blame for giving the referendum people wanted? :confused:

Well he isn't 'getting off scot free'. He has resigned his job. The Chancellor's political career is either finished or paused for a long time.

Where were Boris and Gove today?

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I don't know, I'm beginning to like him. History will find he made the right call on the referendum. He certainly seems preferable to the potential successors.

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It doesn't matter he gave the UK an option we chose he has to abide by that. he's the leader of this country until otherwise and has to make sure that everything he does is in the best interests of the country and it's people.

Even if he has to start the process off then hand it over we have to do what is best and to protect our country

I fail to see the funny side of the Remain peoples view on this matter it is not about well we told you. there is a way out but DC and his half wits aren't acting on it or move out of the way.

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They aren't running the country ATM DC head is so what do you suggest?

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That is what is happening. But the Tories have to select a leader before they can decide what to do.

That's because this isn't funny.

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I don't know. I don't think there is a safe way to extract yourself from an institution and market that is so important to the economy.

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He wasn't going to be pm after the next election anyway this way he keeps getting the pay of a pm without having to do any of the work in sorting out the mess he created and don't tell me he promised a referendum for the good of the people because he is doing anything but acting in the good of nation or people now. He gave a referendum to stop ukip at the last GE and to keep elements in his party quiet and he never thought a leave vote would win. He is still the prime minister in title and doing bugger all to help except staying in the position stopping anyone coming in and sorting things out.

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He promised a referendum because his party forced him into it. Maybe he shouldn't have called it but we would likely have had a referendum on the EU at some point because the discussion went on for years before that.

Cameron is only staying in the position until a new leader is found. He can't just resign and hand over to no-one. He is also right not to invoke article 50 until we have an idea of what we want Brexit to look like, something Leave don't seem to have an idea on, so the new leader will have a range of options presented to them by the task force Cameron has set up today and then it's up to them to choose and negotiate it.

It wouldn't make sense for the PM to be in charge of implementing a process he was strongly against. He can only do the prep work. They're also talking with Ireland in the coming weeks to ensure freedom of movement between Ireland and the UK.

Cameron has certainly messed up but it's cost him his position as Prime Minster.

Where is the anger at Boris who has campaigning for all of this and didn't even turn up to the common today? Boris and Gove who are doing nothing other than preparing for a leadership run.

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More credit downgrades:

UK loses top credit rating from S&P

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People are angry at Boris and gove but they didn't start this, make pledges during the referendum to see it through and then quit and if it makes sense to not implement article 50 right away why did Cameron say he would there is no defending him here. Plus if remain had won last week and political action was needed to implement something on that I doubt some people would be as happy with the feet dragging as they are at the minute.

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We've covered that before although Fitch has downgraded us tonight too: https://www.fitchratings.com/site/pr...ase?id=1008074

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he's having a tantrum and wont play nice ,the problem is as we all know its wrong to spank a child even if it is a spoiled over privileged brat ,we can only hope he will soon pick up his dummy and start behaving himself before he ruins the country .

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So why are people angry at Boris and the The Gover? Could it be because they lied?

Sorry, strike that last comment from the record. Just a whining sore loser ... there's no problem here, no problem at all ..

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Sorry, can't keep up :) This just flashed up as Breaking News so I though it had just happened.

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The only realistic option now is if the EU were to promise EEA and we said yes before a new leader arrives. That wouldn't be tenable so there will be a while before we know either way.

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I think some people need to wake up, the pound dropping, the FTSE falling, pensions losing value does not effect a lot of Leavers.

On this forum is seems we are a lucky lot, I'm assuming we are on or above average £35k-£45k salaries? Also in relationships with a second earner? My wife works as an out reach worker to some of the poorest outside of London.

You have no idea why they voted Leave if you think it was immigration!

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Some of us never believed anything from the campaigns and voted for reasons that made sense to us but I know that's hard for some remained to accept, yes Boris and gove lied it was quite clear before the vote they were full of it but that didn't mean voting leave was wrong there were other reasons people voted leave. Now the problem is clear that what people wanted and what the current bunch of politicians are capable of delivering is massively different.

For the record and just so I'm clear Boris Johnson is a scheming two faced selfish opportunistic slug and shouldn't get within a country mile of power as that was his whole motivation not for a second was he interested in the good of the UK just the good of Boris. Leaving the EU was still valid as most people do not want to be part of a European superstate governed by anyone other then citizens of the uk in a uk parliament. This current instability is deliberate on the part of politicians and serves Boris quite well if we the public let it continue.

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It's not deliberate. It's quite clear no-one has a clue what to do.

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It is deliberate and Cameron knew damn well what he was doing when he quit but didn't demand a leadership election immediately.

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Just like the English football team then Damien.;)

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He did demand a leadership election immediately. :confused: This will be one of the shortest leadership elections in a while. Nominations close this week I think.

It's not deliberate because you think there is just something we can do but it's clear no-one knows what that is.

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He didn't start that Damien Tory backbenchers have bought the leadership election forward.

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That's what makes me laugh now. Boris and Gove might have led the leave campaign it doesn't me we voted for them. Remain seem to be a bit slow at catching up on this still

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Yes some people do need to wake up, a lot of people have work place pensions all effected by the FTSE dropping.

I guess leavers don't drive cars, go abroad on holiday, don't use gas or electricity all effected by a dropping pound.

So just why did they vote leave if it was not immigration, border control and all of the money we are going to save.

Non of which are going to happen by the looks of it.

J

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None of this is helping. We are where we are at the moment. As some point, hopefully this week, the bad news will stop and we'll hit a period of relative calm at least for a bit. The worry is that it does look almost certain that we're heading for a recession. If anyone in politics has a good idea now would be the time to air it.

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I knew I was right, your certain doom changed to maybe doom and now it's we are heading to relative calm. Welcome to your future!

UK's employment agencys report Eastern European workers wanting work in Scotland !!

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Many of us voted leave because we want the uk to be independent and sovereign governed by citizens of the uk from a uk parliament and because we do not want to be part of a European federal superstate is that clear enough now only have to repeat things two or three times before some get it.

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Some remain voters need to just get their head out of there bums and get over it out is out get over it move on get a life

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I voted leave, but your punctuation is making me question that!!!

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I really don't think you'd like it if he did what was best to protect our country for right now.

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I know a few vote Remainers who regret it, now there won't be a emergency budget, no threat to the NHS and no war. They are furious but accept what happened.

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That'd be because they're the ones who handle leadership elections, not the outgoing incumbent.

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When you say "our country" what do you mean? You do realise parliament voted 6-1 in favour of a democratic EU leave/remain referendum.

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I noted something in a quote, so for the studio audience:

Yes it does, and impacts everyone regardless of their vote.

The pound dropping means imports of things like raw materials for manufacturing become more expensive, alongside the fuel needed to run the production lines. Factories close.

Just speaking with the CTO of a fibre optic network builder they've cancelled 3 projects today because they pay for the equipment in US Dollars, their suppliers are in the United States, and the drop in Sterling has meant those projects will cost too much to be viable.

This kind of thing is why I've changed my mind on referenda over the past week.

EDIT: RBMark if you're responding to me you're wasting your time. As previously noted you're on ignore. I only saw the above as it was in a quote and thought it merited a comment given that, like many of your comments, it's quite simply wrong.

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I'm just sick of the insults on here. I'm happy I voted out. I didn't want to be ruled by Germany, become one nation, have our currency eventually turned into the Euro and be ruled by a EU super Government. because that is the way it was going. the UK was a small minority to 27+ member states.

I'm I happy the whole country might go tits up no chance would I want people to lose jobs no....were people losing jobs anyway being in the EU yes

I'm I on 35-40k as one poster suggested no I'm on 18k and my wife on the verge of losing her job next week leaving us 30k+ in debt.

I'm still happy I voted and we knew there would be economic uncertainty the only problem is the Gov is imploding on itself over the Referendum half of this wouldn't be that bad if they had actually got their finger out.

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I'll remember to quote this back at you if/when we join the EEA with free movement of labour should you be up in arms about it.

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Never apologise for doing something you believe in, wether it turns out to be right or wrong always know that in your heart you did what you thought was best for you and your family. Anyone who can't respect that is not worth worrying about.

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Apologies for my punctuation I'm six days into a pounding headache and sleeping about two hours a day so some things are slipping. Not sure that invalidates my point though the snobbery is getting thick in many places lately.

Oh for gods sake ignitionnet not everyone cared about immigration stop acting like that was the only reason anyone voted leave.

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Have you considered getting a gun so that you can just put it to your temple and pull the trigger literally rather than just metaphorically?

EDIT: Okay that was harsh and I in no way advocate doing that. I just struggle to understand how you could be happy about this given the first paragraph just couldn't happen without our consent. It would involve treaty change, which we have a veto on, ceding sovereignty triggers a referendum here, and the EU had already accepted that we weren't prepared to integrate further.

If you were told that paragraph was going to happen you were lied to.

Remember, though, that it was your choice and you don't have to justify it to anyone, least of all some random bloke on a forum.

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Why did you originally leave London? An what did you blame it on?.............


We don't always get it right, but we vote with honest hearts,

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Yeah, encouraging suicide is now a criminal offence, I won't report it as I suspect it's another one of your too many glasses of wine rants you'll try to justify tomorrow. Go to bed!

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I'm not sure what part of being on ignore you're finding so difficult to comprehend, RBMark.

Hint: it means I can't see what you write unless I choose to, which I don't because it's a waste of my time.

Still if you want to waste yours...

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I generally respect what you say and Believe you're very intelligent, (don't agree always and make that very clear) but it's time to go to bed!

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No indeed, some seemed under the impression that we'd wake up one day part of an EU superstate despite having at least 2 separate legal mechanisms that ensured it couldn't happen, one of which triggers a referendum.

I picked on that scenario as a bunch of people seem up in arms about the prospect, nothing more. It wasn't meant to indicate that Gavin is a xenophobe and I apologise if that was the impression given.

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The goal of the EU is to become a federal superstate that's a fact so we couldn't have continued being a member if we didn't become part of the superstate so we voted out before getting kicked out. You can't have a federal EU with members not part of it and back in the 70's when people were told the EEC was just going to stay a trading group nothing more they believed that and look where we are now and where they plan to be in ten years time. The two don't go together so separation was always coming we might have jumped the gun but that's all.

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The EU was aware of that and had acknowledged the need for a different tier for us and perhaps others.

We weren't going to be kicked out. That'd require a unanimous vote which wouldn't happen.

As with everything else involved in the EU all of that stuff involves a bunch of bureaucracy. It's an inefficient pain in the backside but it does help prevent unpredictability.

Good grief. In the space of a week I've gone from devoutly looking to leave to actually defending the EU. I've been assimilated.

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My ex partner was Italian and so is my eldest daughter. I also lived with them in Italy for a number of years but they all live over here now. I work for the NHS which as you know is multicultural and half the staff on my ward are filipinos which a lot of them are my friends we have weekends away etc.

I think you've got me far wrong on that agenda. My father-in-law is southern irish as well.

Not sure why you would suggest I stick a gun to my head? I'm happily married with kids one of them just 2 years old.

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By ensuring that areas where there are high immigrant populations are provided with additional resources to ensure that the needs of British nationals are not disadvantaged.

This would involve continuous demographic monitoring of immigrant populations and having a contingency fund which could be used on a rapid access basis to make the necessary provision in areas like schooling, health, employment etc.

We would have to make provision for immigrants but without disadvantaging local British national residents.

It's worth remembering that many immigrants come to the UK to set up businesses thus not only providing employment but also paying taxes, National Insurance contributions etc. and providing services.

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Looks like Sterling has hit the bottom for now. So at least there is that.

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It would really help if our politicians pulled their fingers out, put the needs of the nation first, delayed the summer recess and got the election of a PM sorted out promptly before our financial situation gets any worse.

The EU want us to get on but the new PM will need time to decide an appropriate course and strategy. That can only happen once the PM is elected, thus the election should be conducted now as a matter of urgency.

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https://youtu.be/-0WeURiShfU

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Post Brexit racist attack as reported by witness "Carlos" as English men shoutting racist abuse then viciously attacking polish father and son was in fact......

A polish man and Polish gypsy (that's how it's reported not 2 Polish men) attacking two Polish men in a drunken brawl, wonder what made Carlos the witness report it as specifically English men, not British or polish?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135375...nken-punch-up/

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This is the big problem today that all politicians seem to have.

They don't serve the people or the country, they serve themselves - hence this is where we find ourself in a split country, with both main political parties self destructing.

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Sick in the head is the best description for them. Say what you like in the privacy of your own home, and believe you me, I do, they have a right to be here. Yes some don't and will be dealt with in the proper legal manner. These 'people', for want of a better word, should be jailed for life and leave the rest of us and the immigrants to get on with it. What's next? I'm a Scot, will I be told to go forth and multiply if Scotland goes independent? Will I be an illegal immigrant in England?

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So what's new? Hasn't it always been that way, with the acceptance of a very few in recent years?

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Did you read the comment and then the link? It wasn't racist it was Polish on Polish drunken fight.

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Deep joy !!!

There will be tax rises and spending cuts - Osborne

Today Programme
BBC Radio 4
Posted at
08:16
When are you having your emergency Budget, asks presenter Nick Robinson.

George Osborne denies he said there'd be one immediately after a Leave vote, but measures would be needed within a few months.

"We are absolutely going to have to provide fiscal security to people..."

Does that mean tax rises and spending cuts? "Yes, absolutely," replies the chancellor.

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Yeah but he won't be the one to implement them.