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The issue with current air travel is that it exclusively burns fossil fuels in large quantities. If you remove the use of fossil fuels then you solve the problem. There are alternatives to air travel including Skype.

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Nor would it be solved by communism. The answer is a mixed economy, of course.

The UK is leading the way on tackling climate change under a mixed economy, and that was even while we were in austerity.

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l am sure no one wants to go back to the old days OB but societies did survive very well before air travel.

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The end of the world has been predicted many times before, and still the date keeps getting postponed. Reminds me of Brexit..

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Can't believe you are seriously advocating that! Don't go back too far though, there aren't enough caves to go around. :D

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Well, I didn't realise that lipstick caused climate change...:D

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If the bar capitalism is working to is to be "slightly better than communism" then democratic socialism is going to obliterate it in the coming years.

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l am not talking about the days of the hunter gatherer OB :D as l am just saying that modern societies will highly likely have to make some sacrifices in the future.

The trouble with parts of modern societry is they are too mollycoddled and would find it hard to survive if many of the modern conveniences and luxuries were taken away from them.

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There's no 'slightly' about it. Communism is and was a complete disaster.

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That's where you set the very low bar. I'm pointing out I hope it aspires for more but doubt it will. Too much money being made with the status quo.

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Indeed it is but unfettered capitalism is a disaster as well.

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"According to our calculations, a cruiseliner such as Queen Mary 2 emits 0.43kg of CO2 per passenger mile, compared with 0.257kg for a long-haul flight"

"Travelling to New York and back on the QEII uses almost 7.6 times as much carbon as making the same journey by plane"

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2.../cruises.green

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Thanks for that Spiderplant as those facts are very interesting so it then comes back to how much this country wants to reduce its carbon footprint significantly and in order to do that there will have to be sacrifices by us all if this country is serious about reducing its carbon footprint.

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I didn't advocate that. I said a mixed economy is the best solution that anyone has come up with so far.

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Yes, because it's working so well :rolleyes:

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It works a lot better when it has the right balance. Hopefully, that is what Boris will achieve. He certainly seems to have a better idea of how to achieve this than his predecessor.

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Hmmm Boris will be gone in a few years so its going to need quite a few leaders after that to continue with the climate change message as so far our leaders talk a lot but talking the talk does not turn itself into action as we need leaders who can walk the walk and thus so far none of them have done that..

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The trouble is, as soon as you start laying down rules & regulations you will alienate some people.

Those people are 'likely' to be the ones with money . . the ones who holiday abroad 2 or 3 times a year, drive flash cars (4x4's), and quite possibly have a business that may be impacted by any new regs.

Then there's the power/fuel industry, if they have to spend £millions to conform, guess who gets a price hike.

We're already seeing the knock on effect in the motor trade . .

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But one can't have it both ways as if this country is serious about doing something with our carbon footprint there will have to be sacrifices even if this is not painless.

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https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...vxl2xxDkOcs9z8

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Coal bunker is full,ready for winter,i don't see it being a steady 70F outside especially on the coast where i live.

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I’m currently sat in front of my log/coal burner burning away, Lovely and warm.

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It's solar panels that are becoming much more effective. The exciting thing about those is the idea they be spread out generating small amounts of electricity across the entire grid amounting to quite a bit.

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Pity they don't work at night then.:D

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It's why you either sell it back to the grid or have a Tesla Powerwall type thingy that captures the energy during the day. Just need battery prices to come down which, in time, they will.

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I'm not jealous, honestly

*stares at crappy gas fire*

well mebbe just a little :mis:

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They're doing lots of things like that in the Orkney Islands. A good programme about it on Radio 4 the other day.

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Gigha on the west coast of Scotland do this too. The community bought four wind turbines which feed back in to the grid but also some giant vanadium flow batteries for an island wide UPS system - https://www.communityenergyscotland....y-overview.asp

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When Direct Action meets Direct Action

https://news.sky.com/story/furious-c...-tube-11837385

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Nothing speaks louder than a good ass kicking.

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Whilst extinction rebellion themselves have admitted this mornings actions were ‘not the best’ you’re not advocating or condoning people being assaulted,surely ?

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No excuses for people being assaulted whatever side they are on end of...

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Pretty stupid, disrupting public transport when one of their aims is wanting more people to use public transport.

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If they got in the way of me going about my lawful business i would open up a can of whoop ass on them,hope that clarifies my position ;)

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It's what you get for deliberately disrupting the lives of others. I have no sympathy for these people at all. The police really need to crack down hard on XR, otherwise other groups with their bloody causes will start doing it as well.

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Their actions, regardless of the disruption caused do not justify the perpetrators being assaulted including being kicked and or forcibly dragged from the top of a train. It is the polices job to handle it, not the general publics.

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Try telling that to the general public. By all means protest, disrupt Government departments etc but don't stop the general public getting to work. You do that at your peril.

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Everybody has a right to protest as long as its peaceful and respectful but protesting on public transport was pretty foolhardy IMO although using physical force is unacceptable nevertheless whatever side it comes from.

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Scenario:

You stand watching as a scrote is breaking into your car with the probable intention of stealing it.

do you:
a) ring the police, wait 40 minutes for them to arrive, 2 days for them to find the car burnt out, and a letter from your insurance saying it's invalid now as you made no attempt to stop the theft.
b) smack his head into the roof of your car 5 times while he was resisting a 'citizens arrest'
c) ask him for permission to take his photo so the police can trace him and slap his wrist

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I would never disrespect my car in such a way when there is a perfectly good kerb at my feet.

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I must of missed the part where one of the individuals who assaulted a member of XR owned the train?

Pointless point... no comparison between the two scenarios.

Are you going to go and pull a truck driver from his cab and try and hit him because him and a convoy are staging a go slow protest on the motorway? Would you go and pull a farmer out of his tractor if him and a group of farmers staged a go slow on a dual carriageway?

Of course you wouldn't as you would probably get your head caved in by said truck driver or farmer....

I'm not justifying what XR did it was wrong, but the individuals who responded to them in the manner in which they did are just as bad, if not arguably worse.

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The vast majority of the British public would probably swear a bit and do some tutting. That's it....

Funny really when Nigel Farage got pelted with a milkshake there was hell on... A couple of climate protestors however get dragged of trains, get kicked. Have food and liquids thrown over them and that's OK?

Some people have a serious issue with double standards.....

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Yes, that's the one! :D

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Pointless point... no comparison between the two scenarios. In the first, a group of irritating people are trying to prevent people from going about their lawful business. In the second, a guy is going about his lawful campaigning when he is accosted by an asshole.

An assault is called for in the first example but not in the second (maybe not legally, though!)

In the absence of an adequate police response, people have to do what is necesary to get things moving again.

You do have a serious issue with double standards....

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Perfectly valid comparison.

Two different people were assaulted, in one instance a group of people call for prosecution. In the next instance the assault is justified because they inconvenienced people.

No, people do not have to do what is necxesary to get things moving again. What happened to the public was at best an inconvenience that’s all. No commuters were injured nor assaulted by members of XR It does not justify the perpetrators being assaulted.

For you to suggest that they deserve it just demonstrates how low some levels of society have sunk too regarding their moral compass.

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Moral what?:rofl:

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That thing that points you in the right direction.

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The police haven't been handling it and the public are sick of their antics, they are the losers, pretty much everyone was sympathetic to their cause if not actually supportive of it but they've made people's lives a misery for weeks whilst the police have done nothing but sit and watch and now that support has ebbed away, one of them got kicked in the head, big deal

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The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

However, this is not a beauty contest. They should just do their jobs and enforce the law before more people take it into their own hands.

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It is not a valid comparison at all. Nigel was not preventing anyone from going about their business. These anarchists were, though, and caused huge disruption. Who do these people think they are? Self righteous idiots is what they are.

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I would say an equally serious moral problem is the tendency to ascribe all righteousness to one side of a debate whilst ascribing all wicked motives to the other, as you are obviously doing here.

One man climbing on top of a tube train in the morning rush hour does a whole lot more than inconvenience a few people. He puts lives in danger by holding up one of the busiest metro services in the world when the platforms are already crowded. The platform at this and other stations becomes overcrowded, as do the streets outside, making business harder for everyone, including the emergency services who have had no opportunity to plan for an illegal, unexpected action. He traps people on trains that back up behind the one he’s sitting on causing who knows what consequences - especially if the risky measure of evacuating people down the tracks becomes necessary. Eventually he also risks the safety of those whose job it is to forcibly remove him.

The protestors were extremely irresponsible and thoroughly dim witted, disrupting the electrically operated mass transit system that London relies on to limit exhaust emissions into the city air.

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And if you look at my posts regarding when Nigel Farage was assaulted I condemned the actions of the person who assaulted him.

I’ll repeat again I’m in no way justifying the actions that XR took. However they did not deserve to be assaulted.

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Let’s make this very simple so that you understand.


Nigel Farage was assaulted, the culprit justifiably punished
XR protestors assaulted, and you’re attempting to justify the culprits actions because people were inconvenienced.

The offence is the same regardless of circumstances that lead up to it.

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And what you are failing to understand is that in the court of public opinion, the XR protesters got what they deserved. The Nigel Farage incident is totally irrelevant to the argument because he was not obstructing anyone going about their normal business.

You do have a rather strange way of looking at things. Total equality without considering the circumstances.

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Could be a fauxcial worker;)

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The court of public opinion has nothing to do (nor should it) with our legal system.

My statement is truth, yours is wishful nonsense.

Here endeth my discussion with you on this matter. Enjoy your evening

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You may regard it as wishful nonsense. I think you will find that the majority of people disagree with you. I know that won't bother you, because given your belief that we should ignore the referendum result, clearly you have no regard at all for what the majority think.

Thank you for your best wishes. And a good night to you too. :ninja:

EDIT: We love you really!

Re: Climate Change - record World temp. rises in Feb.
 

Offence is Offence no matter what the circumstances, as mrmistoffelees says.

However, some situations, for example confronting a large group of frustrated and time conscious people going about their everyday business, could be looked upon as self inflicted . . . or even suicidal ;)

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Or deserved ;)

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Maybe the devastating effects of climate change will be deserved, particularly for those that live on the coast and are in denial....

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He's got a boat, dontcha know :D

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It'll sink with 40,000 stoaways.

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incoming or outgoing? :D

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The charge for ferrying to dry land will be reasonable,i can only take about 30 at a time [book early];)

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'Get a job!' Judge tells unemployed Extinction Rebellion activist to find work as he fines him £750 for spray-painting WWII memorial honouring women

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-memorial.html

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Australia's on fire (adding more greenhouse gases), and we're flooding. Just maybe something's up?

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Fake news. ;)

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Australia :rofl: definitely a made up name;)

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Bush fires are a natural phenomenon and promote new growth of plants.

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Yes, I'm sure that's a comfort to Sydney residents... It's happening more regularly, floods, fires, but I'm sure you'd still argue black is white to suit your own weird agenda. Wake up old chap, it'll affect you too.

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https://www.theguardian.com/environm...y_to_clipboard

It does kind of put into perspective all the other irrelevant crap we obsess about. Planetary doom still rates way down peoples priorities,. How stupid we've been, when the evidence has been there for decades.

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Decades ago we were being told we were headed for an ice age.

Cheer up, it will be colder this weekend. :D

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And that cancels out climate change according to your logic....

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It was a joke, Den, in line with Mr K's recent posts, which have made me chuckle!

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No Den, Tax cancels out climate change.

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Actually, there is a grain of truth in this. Modelling of orbital variations back in 1980 (Milankovitch Cycles) seems to show that we should be 6000 years in to a 23000 year cooling cycle and yes, heading towards an ice age. However, the modelling only took into account orbital variation and nothing else.

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It highlights the fact that the predictions are not exactly reliable. At one point the talk was all about acid rain. Then they discovered the predictions didn't come true(eg half of New York state's forests were going to disappear) and that most of it came from natural sources.

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The predictions are coming true, record increases in global temperature, melting ice sheets, increased extreme weather events, flooding, drought, forest and moorland fires. If anything they under estimated the rate of change. However some will scream fake news even when the water comes through their front doors....
However it does seem it's too late now.

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l somehow doubt homeowners or those who rent will be screaming fake news if it comes through their own front door but of course l suspect their thinking is it ain't going to to be happening to them which of course is a false delusion.

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The climate has always changed. If it wasn't for a "tipping point" in the past, we would still have an ice age.

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I think everyone knows what it means, just like if a doctor says to you "you're running a temperature", you don't reply "I've always had a temperature, othewise I'd be dead"... ;)

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I think we can all see that the climate is currently undergoing changes. But what we don't know is whether these changes are temporary and whether mankind is responsible.

All sorts of factors impact on climate, and I retain a healthy scepticism as to whether carbon is the cause. The atmosphere currently comprises 0.04% of carbon and some people are making a fortune out of carbon trading, etc.

Go figure.

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l would say its pretty obvious that mankind is mostly responsible even to those who are sceptical..

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We've certainly been brainwashed into thinking so, Den. We all just need to bear in mind that the scientists have not proved this theory of theirs yet.

For all we know, it might be that with the cleaner air we are breathing following the industrial revolution, more sunlight is getting through, allowing the recovery from the mini-ice age to resume.

By the way, the mini-ice age was not our fault - it was absolutely natural. So why is 'global warming' our fault?

More questions than answers, as usual.

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Funny how people believe scientists when it comes to health (anti-vaxxers excepted), air travel, computers, but not climate change...

You seem to be confusing "scientific theory" with "an idea that someone had" - a scientific theory is " an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results.".

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Absolutely. Unless we had another Earth to test, we have to work with models and proxies and the big issue is that nothing like this has happened before. Sure, there have been climate changes in the past but the evidence of causes of these changes are generally not related to carbon emissions but rather changes in solar radiation.

CO2 levels do cause a greenhouse effect, that is basic physics but I guess the question is do the amounts of atmospheric CO2 contribute to warming and, if yes, how much is needed to have an effect? There is also a good correlation between CO2 levels and temperatures but correlation does not always indicate causation. There are studies using new information sciences which do show a one way linkage - https://www.nature.com/articles/srep21691 but it can be argued that this is just another type of statistics...

I guess the big questions are;

1. Does CO2 cause a greenhouse effect in general?
2. Does atmospheric CO2 cause a greenhouse effect in the atmosphere and if the answer to above is yes and this is no, why?
3. How much CO2 is needed to cause an effect?
4. If CO2 is not the cause of climate change, where is the heat from a greenhouse effect going?
5. What else could cause a rise in global temperatures?

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I take their health advice with a pinch of salt as well. Advising people to cut calories rather than carbohydrates, advising that certain foods are bad for you, then changing their minds some 30 years later and admitting that their advice actually caused health problems....the examples are endless.

Don't get me wrong, we should take notice of what scientists say, but then apply the common sense test.

I don't know what you mean by testing climate theory. There are too many variables as to how climate works for anyone to be sure, and climate models are designed with certain assumptions added in which might be false. Rubbish in, rubbish out, as they say.

Climatologists have been caught out a few times about their alarmist predictions and we need to think about these things before we blindly accept what they say. I'd like to be able to believe scientists without question, but I'm afraid they no longer have my trust.

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I read an interview somewhere recently where a prominent "scientist" claims there are only abut 100 "true scientists" worldwide, whilst the rest are statisticians, lab techs, collators, etc.

And then there is this:

https://climatefeedback.org/evaluati...imate-science/

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Not sure you read that properly - it was debunking the letter that states "there is no climate emergency"...

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A lot of this is failure of science communication rather than science itself. It's not glamorous to talk about p-values and error bars so information is given in absolutes rather than certainties and ranges and this can lead to misleading conclusions. If you read the underlying reports, there are loads of uncertainties reported but these rarely get into the public domain. For example, look at the graphs from a recent IPCC report here - https://www.ipcc.ch/srocc/chapter/su...-policymakers/

Common sense is good filter but it should be backed up by good data and even then surprises can pop up

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It's not like they've ever been wrong before:

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-sp...e-this-year-3/

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Well done for finding this, Pierre. These examples show why I have been so skeptical of these wild climate predictions from people who should know better.

We fall for them every time, don't we? Everyone always listens to the 'end of the world' brigade, despite the fact that none of them have ever been right over the centuries.

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Well, in the last 50 years, computing power has progressed logarithmically, with more data being able to be stored and analysed, so the predictions now can be done quicker and more accurately.

The people at the time were working on the information they had at the time (except Erlich, who was a scaremonger and was just getting publicity for his books) - we have much more extensive datasets and computing power to forecast probabilities now.

I suppose you could be right - 97% of climate scientists are pulling a scam, and if it wasn't for those plucky little mining and energy companies fighting the good fight against Big Science, they would be getting away with wanting us, and our children, clean air and water, and cheaper renewable energy... ;)

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Using the same old alogorithum.


Link

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And the quotes given were from 1970, and his model was first used in 1987...

It's a model, not an algorithm - models are made up of many algorithms, which are constantly reviewed and modified...

From the MAGICC wiki

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Watching a bit of the 20/20 cricket in Canberra. There's a danger of fire stopping play, which is a new one, the bush fire smoke is dangerously close.
Flooding here as well. Maybe when the Aussies evacuate to the UK we'll do something as we're still ignoring the issue.

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And play has been suspended. God knows how asthmatics are coping.

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This should cheer you up, yesterday i was in a line of traffic and the car in front was a nissan leaf proudly boasting zero emissions,the first electric car i have seen around here and it was a taxi.

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There are Leafs all over the place around here, a few BMW i3s around too, and I normally pass at least one Tesla a week. The Tesla model 3 looks very smart.

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Lots of Tesla’s around here. Electric cars make sense as a 2nd car but until they can 600miles on 1no. Charge and can re-charge quickly i’ll Stick to my Diesel.

Mrs Pierre just got a 5.0 V8 Mustang, might as well, we may be the last generation that can!

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Now that’s a car designed to be parked outside the Green Party conference and revved, repeatedly :rofl:

I think Tesla are just about there with their range and proprietary rapid charging network but you pay quite a premium for it. As for the rest of them, a Leaf sounds practical most of the time, most of the year, but I hear horror stories about them in the dead of a Scottish winter. The range just vanishes.

I take a 250 mile road trip probably twice a year and I’d be happy enough to do it with a 40 minute charging break in the middle. I like to recharge with caffeine anyway. But occasionally - rarely, but occasionally - I go further. As things stand I could drive right down to the south coast in one day in whatever car I happened to own without any problems. Nobody is going to persuade me that in future, being able to go on a long distance road trip is a privilege to be enjoyed only those who can afford a premium car.

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Now the shite's hit the fan. The affluent have realised that climate change will decimate their pensions and investments.... Now it's important all of a sudden ! Being wealthy will be no protection, well there's a surprise.
https://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-a9263861.html

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Like Mark Carney has a good record with his predictions! I don't think I shall be losing much sleep over this one.

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Climate Change is not a prediction , its a clear fact...

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I must say how taken aback i am by all the science and proof you have attached to that opinion;)