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Your first point, Zantarous, is a case in point. If a single broadcaster had all the rights, the incentive to make the programmes available to competitors is to provide them with rights to broadcast at a price that allows a reasonable profit. However, I think regulation is required to prevent the likes of Sky from overcharging. As I have said before, you can still have elements of exclusivity. For example, Sky might choose to keep Sky Atlantic an exclusive channel but would be prevented from exclusivity of the content (so that other channels could show the programmes from that channel that it chose to buy). Alternatively, Sky might want to negotiate exclusive rights (for example to HBO programmes) for broadcast on Sky Atlantic, but then it would be required to permit other platforms to offer Sky Atlantic at a reasonable price. This still allows companies to differentiate their offerings from other providers but in a way that doesn't affect the customer adversely. The current situation is manifestly unfair to the consumer and needs to change. While I understand that the current Government would prefer a laissez faire approach to business, I do think it needs to intervene in this kind of situation where it is clear that the private sector will not act in the interests of the punters. ---------- Post added at 15:59 ---------- Previous post was at 15:49 ---------- Quote:
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As a punter, I am pretty happy with the set up. I get the choice to have freeview or pay tv from a number of providers. If I want SA, it's available from two of those options. I have the choice of paying for OTT service's Netflix, Amazon etc - all of which are available on my smart TV. I have a subscription to Mubi and am seriously considering a sub for Curzon. The only OTT service, I don't think I can get via my tv is NOW TV (which I don't need as Sky offered a great deal.) If I wanted NOW TV as a VM customer, all I had to do was buy a box and plug that into my third HDMI socket. If I want BT Sport and AMC, all I need to do is cancel my VM BB and get the free TV service from BT with their BB and phone. The greatest irony of your comments is the fact that you are desperate for streaming services to evolve over the next few years. If they ever come in the way you hope, there will be numerous TV networks/providers all charging an arm and a leg to watch the latest first run shows live (exclusive on their service) and keep all the best on-demand content as their own exclusives. The average TV shows will still be sold to Netflix etc for the extra revenue. If HBO GO ever launches over here, can you seriously see HBO letting other streaming services (or channels) have their content? No. they will want as many customers as they can get. Sky will lose their rights too. Ultimately, if you want HBO content - it's first run rights are pretty much exclusive to whoever they sell it to. The government will never change that, HBO (and pretty much anyone else) just won't deal with UK TV providerss if the government interfere and say they can't have exclusive rights for the maximum amount of money they can get. |
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Where I agree with you is that the Government will not intervene. However, the EU might, they have already taken on Microsoft and Google. As for HBO not dealing with UK TV providers if they were forced to play fairly, do you really think any commercial organisation would make such a decision if there is still money to be made, Harry? Once again, we are looking at the existing arrangements and legal framework and assuming it will never change. |
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LOL, did I say taxes will go up?!? I don't recall saying taxes would go up. No, of course the government would not put taxes up, but it would mean the money raised from current taxes being put to irrelevant use, when it could used better. They have not interfered so far, because they do not need to. It happens everywhere in life, why should TV content be any different? There you go changing your argument again - If you think Europe will need to intervene, why bring up the government in the first place? I don't recall saying nothing will change in the future either. Don't put words in my mouth please. I am simply saying you have all the options available to you now. The government or EU do not need to interfere either. What a waste of money it would be. As previously stated by someone else, if all things are equal, the company with the deepest pockets will undercut all it's competitors until they are the only company left, then it becomes more of a massive issue. HBO can do what they want with their content. Why should they be forced to share the stuff they buy and/or make. Would you like to be forced to share something you have made/bought, if it meant you could not get the money you want for it? What happens if HBO make a loss selling the content to other TV stations, and can not have their own app/channel? Why would they then launch over here? I imagine they need to sell it on their own terms to survive, they do not have to launch it over here on all providers, especially if they don't want to be forced to play fairly. I am dropping out of this already, seeings as you have put words in my mouth, ignored relevant questions and changed your argument - all in the space of one reply. Shame really, but I should know better from you by now. |
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Just to clear up one or two things from your post, you certainly didn't say that taxes would go up. However, you did refer to the waste of money my proposed actions would bring about and I merely said that such actions would not increase taxation. I have not changed my argument, Harry. I have consistently said that the Government should act on this. To add that if the Government decides to take no action, the EU should step in does not amount to a change of argument, surely! Come on, this is pedantic in the extreme, I would respectfully suggest. As a consumer yourself, Harry, I am a little surprised that you appear to support the status quo so strongly (I hope I haven't put words in your mouth here - I am trying to understand your reasons for arguing with me). Not everyone has such deep pockets into which we can delve every time more exclusive material is released which requires a new subscription. Once again, the less well off are being prevented from watching the content they desire through the exorbitant costs involved. This will only get worse with time, and we can expect more outlay, no doubt, in being able to access AMC. Yes, some of your arguments on the practicality of controlling exclusivity deserve to be looked at very carefully, but I don't share your fatalistic approach to this subject. Anyway, I shall miss you as my sparring partner on this topic! :hugs: |
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I just subscribed to the Now TV entertainment package for £2 a month for two months ... gives me a chance to see what the fuss is about regarding Sky Atlantic .....
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Mutley, Check out The leftovers, and Boardwalk Empire of course, and the first season of True Detective is great. Sky Atlantic does have some great stuff, but not all the time, like all channels there's plenty of filler.
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Disappointingly, a new series of The Americans is due to start on ITV Encore next week, so the first year of repeats on this channel must be coming to an end.
I was hopeful that at the end of the exclusivity period with Sky, Virgin would gain access to this channel. However, I've not heard anything - is anyone aware of indications that this channel will be coming to cable soon? Just as well I have my Roku, so I won't miss out, but this will be a frustrating time for those with VM only who have followed series one and two on ITV1. |
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a516: ITV Wales to launch in HD.
a516digital is reporting that ITV is set to launch ITV Cymru Wales HD on Virgin Channel 113 across Wales. ITV Cymru Wales HD will replace the current version of ITV HD channel in Wales on August 25th. http://www.a516digital.com/2015/08/i...nch-in-hd.html |
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My DNR has been lifted, VM will be gettng AMC Global at the end of the month in time for the premier of fear the walking dead only sd was mentioned and as usual you all know by now this is just a rumour until it shows up on the EPG.
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My feeling is if it does show up on VM it will be in the XL pack possibly as a sweetner for none sport fans for the £3p/m price rise. I will ofcourse post any further information i get but as it stands i'd say it's 50/50 chance of it being on VM. |
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I hope VM do get AMC, for Fear The Walking Dead alone. I remember BT Sport ads being exclusive to BT, until it launched on VM, so fingers crossed.
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If you look carefully at the wording of the press release it does read, to me at least, as if the launch is exclusive to BT not the channel, but it's very subjective how you interpret what has been said. It's cleverly ambiguous IMHO.
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I'd say that the relationship between BT and VM, on the TV front at least, is more cordial than their relationship with Sky and they appear to be open to working together.
With BT Sport there was no VM announcement until after the channels launched last year. What you may see is a similar event this time, with AMC Global launching exclusively on the BT platform at the end of August and maybe it appearing on Virgin a few days later as part of XL. Technically that would mean an exclusive launch for BT but carriage on VM within days. And I'd expect AMC's top shows (Fear The Walking Dead, Rectify etc.) to be repeated extensively in the first week, so we may miss the first showing but not the first show (if you see what I mean). |
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thanks for the info, could be good for me. bit of an arthouse film fan
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Last night saw six channels being added to "Total channels" Media Boy HQ think Virgin Media has launch six new Red Button channels ahead BT's UEFA rights starting next Tuesday.
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I think thet meant the new App advertised in the BT ads which allows you to jump back to goals in live games etc. - which will be on Youview boxes.
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I had a quick look at the Curzon Home Cinema app, I saw a trailer for Still Alice, a movie I wanted to see and hadn't realised was available now.
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Media Boy Sources has confirmed tonight that local TV Broadcaster CAMBRIDGE TV has started testing today on Virgin Media.
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August List update - August 14th update.
Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV. NOTE: I DO NOT WORK FOR VIRGIN MEDIA SO ALL THE INFORMATION ON THIS LIST IS STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE Colours on my list are as followed: Media Boy = New Info just added. Media Boy = Virgin Media News and links. Media Boy = Local TV news, other Media news/Things. From 2016 all UPC Ireland news will appear on this list. === Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV === === Freeviews on Virgin Media === (Put start date here). (Put channel name here) is having an freeview to all TBC Customers on Virgin Channel TBC right now until (Put end date here.) === Soon === -That's Solent will soon launch in Southampton and surrounding areas. -The Africa Channel may re-launch on Virgin Channel 293. -Virgin Media has confirmed that Lifetime HD will soon launch on Virgin Channel ???. -BT Sport Extra 1 will soon launch on Virgin Media. === August === 18th. Local TV Broadcaster 'Cambridge TV' will launch today on Virgin Channel 159 in Madingley Transmitter areas only. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Greats as Sky Movies Star Wars every weekend in August on Virgin Channel 404. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Greats HD as Sky Movies Star Wars HD every Weekend in August on Virgin Channel 434. === September === 1st. Sky Sports to rebrand Sky Sports Ashes as Sky Sports 2 today on Virgin Channel 513. 1st. Sky Sports to rebrand Sky Sports Ashes HD as Sky Sports 2 HD today on Virgin Channel 503. === October === No News... === November === No News... === December === No News... === By 2016 === -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc1 as Sky Movies Aliens on Virgin Channel 4??. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Sky Movies Aliens as Sky Movies tbc1 on Virgin Channel 4??. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc1 HD as Sky Movies Aliens HD on Virgin Channel 4??. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Aliens HD as Sky Movies tbc1 HD on Virgin Channel 4??. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc2 as Sky Movies Gangsters on Virgin Channel 4??. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Gangsters as Sky Movies tbc2 on Virgin Channel 4??. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc2 HD as Sky Movies Gangsters HD on Virgin Channel 4??. -Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Gangsters HD as Sky Movies tbc2 HD on Virgin Channel 4??. === January 2016 === No News... === February 2016 === No News... === March 2016 === -The BBC may close BBC Three on Virgin Media subject to final approved by the BBC Trust. -The BBC may close BBC Three HD on Virgin Media subject to final approved by the BBC Trust. -The BBC may add two extra hours per day to CBBC and CBBC HD on Virgin Media subject to final approved by the BBC Trust. === April 2016 === No News... === May 2016 === No News... === June 2016 === No News... === July 2016 === No News... === August 2016 === No News... === September 2016 === No News... === October 2016 === No News... === November 2016 === No News... === December 2016 === No News... === Local TV on Virgin Media === -All the following Local TV broadcasters may launch by 2017 on Virgin Channel 159: -YourTV Manchester -YourTV Blackpool & Preston -That’s Basingstoke -That’s Surrey -That’s Reading -That’s Salisbury -That's Oxford === Unknown dates === -The BBC hope to launch English regional variants of its existing BBC One HD service as well as Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland editions of BBC Two HD - but still need to be approved by the BBC Trust. === Channels ONLY in UPC Ireland areas === List last updated on June 2nd 2015. ONLY TV CHANNELS THAT ONLY BROADCAST IN THE UK ON OTHER NETWORKS WILL APPEAR ON THIS PART OF THE LIST. ALSO THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CHANNELS IS CURRENTLY BROADCASTING ON UPC IRELAND BUT NOT ON VIRGIN MEDIA: Documentaries: -History HD -CI HD Lifestyle: -Fashion TV Music: -MTV Classic Kids: -Disney Channel HD Specialist: -EWTN Radio: -UCB Ireland Channels only in UPC Ireland areas. FOR LATEST NEWS ON UPC IRELAND SEE: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...iscussion.html ©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production. ==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters === Full list now at: http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/p...adcasters.html This part of list has now moved to my blog - follow link. === What is Media Boy on about??? === Here is what I mean when I post the following on Cable Forum: Virgin Sources - means just that. 'Do Not Post' order - means an Virgin insider has given me some info on things that set to happen but has told me not to reveal it right now. === Media Boy Extra info: === Liberty Global - http://www.lgi.com/ Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin TV - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/ Follow Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/ === Ask Media Boy === Last updated May 8th 2015. Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM? A: Media Boy HQ gets all info from Virgin Media viewers, some Virgin Media workers (I called them Virgin Sources) and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site). Q: WHY HAVE YOU ADDED 'ONLY IN UPC IRELAND AREAS' WHEN THIS THREAD IS FOR VIRGIN MEDIA? A: Virgin Media and UPC Ireland are now both own by Liberty Global. Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''DISNEY CHANNEL HD'' FOR? 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Hi everyone. Haven't been here for a long time, just wondering if there is any update regarding the channels broadcasting on UPC Ireland that aren't on VM?
Looking forward to getting AMC! :) |
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Brightness issues on Amazon Prime this evening (screen keeps dimming), but so far so good with no dimming issues on any other source. Also the tv has a satellite tuner but cant seem to filter encrypted channels so 'found' over 1000 channels but most not watchable. Altogether pretty happy. Cheers Grim |
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