Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35691314)

You can however subscribe to hbo nordic which has most of the hbo shows on it including game of thrones, girls etc also has other network shows on too such as the walking dead, it does cost about £8.70p/m though and you would need a smart dns service.
As howard said give HULU a go you'll be impressed i think, as for game of thrones there are otherways of watching it if you look around ;)

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I don't get texts lol. Also i wasn't allowed the free trial due to none us paypal account, but as i mentioned earlier in the thread i got a 12 month subscription anyway for £20 which is excellent value imo as you'd pay that just for 1 month of Sky tv.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35691404)

Soz ment email lol,just got one this morning to say the blacklist and the following are in my queue;)

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35691427)

Sweet i didn't know about that, going to get that set up now cheers bud.

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35691359)

I'll still use it. A £1 increase after god knows how many years of only being £5.99 isn't going to break the bank.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35691319)

I don't want to watch TV on the computer or have to wire the computer to the TV.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35691427)

Sweet i didn't know about that, going to get that set up now cheers bud.

Originally Posted by nicko (Post 35691658)

Netflix justification for the coming price increase was "to pay for new content acquisitions"

Originally Posted by nicko (Post 35691658)

Netflix justification for the coming price increase was "to pay for new content acquisitions"

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35691665)

I've heard whispers that Netflix are gearing up to take Sky on for movie rights. I think most studios only have a year left in their deal with Sky. I'm not 100% about that though so hopefully someone a bit more in the know can clarify that.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35691669)

They'd have to add considerably more subscribers than they currently have to make it worthwhile in the UK can't see it personally , I can however see them gaining more traction in the USA.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35674293-post324.html

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35691669)

They'd have to add considerably more subscribers than they currently have to make it worthwhile in the UK can't see it personally , I can however see them gaining more traction in the USA.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35674293-post324.html

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35691684)

Not really MM. They could probably afford to take a hit from their worldwide profits to invest in movie rights over here, and then wait for new subscribers to join to repay some of the initial outlay. They also do not need to buy rights from all the studios, they could just go after a couple of studios.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35691711)

Of course that's an option but my opinion is that Netflix's popularity is more to do with its cheap entry point and original content thrown in with its superior technology , buying up first run movie rights in a competitive market doesn't come cheap and this price would no doubt be added to the subscription charge. Time will tell I guess.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35691755)

Shame this isn't the UK Amazon Prime. But a good sign though.



http://gigaom.com/2014/04/23/amazon-...ef5db-99264177

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35691866)

If my memory serves me correctly, Netflix have already said that they will be going for Sky's film rights when the contracts are up.

Don't know how that will affect the cost, though. But I will bet you that it will be cheaper than the Sky Movies subscription.

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I'm sure it will come. Our kind Liberty man just needs to knock on their door and ask....:D

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35691755)

Shame this isn't the UK Amazon Prime. But a good sign though.



http://gigaom.com/2014/04/23/amazon-...ef5db-99264177

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35691866)

If my memory serves me correctly, Netflix have already said that they will be going for Sky's film rights when the contracts are up.

Don't know how that will affect the cost, though. But I will bet you that it will be cheaper than the Sky Movies subscription.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35691994)

Apparantly Amazon instant video is being tested on some Tivo boxes. I do not know if this is true or not i was told by someone in CS.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35691891)

My reasoning isn't purely from a financial point , Netflix and Sky Movies are completely different offerings. Sky Movies does as it says on the tin its a premium first run movie service as opposed to Netflix which in my opinion puts more emphasis on TV boxsets and Original programming , as I said let's wait and see what happens when the rights are due up , look at BT someone else could come in and shock us.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35692003)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35692042)

Don't forget that Netflix are new to the UK and it takes time to build up all the rights required to show the content you want to make available. Look at the US version of Netflix and you will see that they have much more content. There is no reason why the UK version shouldn't be as comprehensive with a little time.

As I said, Netflix have already indicated their interest in doing deals with the film studios but they cannot do so until current exclusive rights with Sky are up. Shouldn't be too much longer now.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35692051)

They may very well have more content , how much of that is first run movies ? Hardly any at the moment despite the fact its streaming service being around since late 2006.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35692217)

I've be messing around with a raspberry pi today running Netflix, Hulu and bein sports on the XMBC system.
It worked well and as Raspberry pi is very small it would be a good way for people to use streaming services without any pc or box connected to their tv.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35692247)

Ok, but mate, really! Most ppl don't want to be fannying around with all those different pieces of kit to get decent TV shows, we just want it on our TV, through our TV supplier for a decent price, It's just getting silly now!

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35692195)

Linear channels will always survive in my opinion.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35692248)

It's a tiny thing that you can easily hide if need be mate, best of all it only costs £40 which is much cheaper than most devices.
I strongly believe Streaming tv is the way forward, linar channels will stay but the networks really need to up their game as straming services grow more popular.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35692341)

Some of them probably will Den, but why would people want to continue to watch programmes at times ordained by others and disrupted with adverts every 10 minutes or so? I think as the younger generation matures and sets the pace, things will start to change rapidly. We are only tied to linear channels through old habits dying hard. It really is an inefficient, time wasting means of accessing your programmes, with plenty of dross between the programmes that you really want to watch.

Why go through all those channels to see which one carries the programme you are looking for? Why not just go straight to the programme? What actually is the case for linear TV channels bearing in mind the alternatives that are now available?

Live programmes are still capable of being accessible at the time of the event through streaming, and so I really don't see the point. Can someone enlighten me please, as I must be missing something.:confused:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35692351)

According to recent figures published by Freeview, 11 million homes in the UK use Freeview as their main TV service at home. That's 11 million homes who are not prepared to pay over and above their TV license fee for TV content. 11 million homes who don't currently need a Smart TV, internet connection or phone line to access their favorite programs. If on demand TV is going to truly going to kill linear TV, there needs to be a way for it to be delivered to households for free without the need of a broadband subscription.

Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35692350)

You've been ripped off. £40 is around double what you should expect to pay for a pi.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35692217)

I've be messing around with a raspberry pi today running Netflix, Hulu and bein sports on the XMBC system.
It worked well and as Raspberry pi is very small it would be a good way for people to use streaming services without any pc or box connected to their tv.

Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35692350)

You've been ripped off. £40 is around double what you should expect to pay for a pi.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35692351)

According to recent figures published by Freeview, 11 million homes in the UK use Freeview as their main TV service at home. That's 11 million homes who are not prepared to pay over and above their TV license fee for TV content. 11 million homes who don't currently need a Smart TV, internet connection or phone line to access their favorite programs. If on demand TV is going to truly going to kill linear TV, there needs to be a way for it to be delivered to households for free without the need of a broadband subscription.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35692497)

It appears Hulu are now trying to stop viewers outside the US viewing its content.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35692499)

And one suspects the others will quickly follow.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35692538)

It wasn't I read it on twitter , a tweet by Engadget.

http://bit.ly/1injwMj

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35692497)

It appears Hulu are now trying to stop viewers outside the US viewing its content.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35692617)

That's easy to get around, just use a VPN.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35692662)

It's the vpns they are blocking.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35692987)

Can't get away with anything now.......

Originally Posted by Londonbornpaddy (Post 35693711)

I use the other methods of watching Netflix on my laptop and tablet and they seem to be ok. The Tivo one is the only one that i use for UK.
On a slightly related topic....

Can anyone tell me if i reduce my tv package and internet speed due to a financial issue will it affect Netflix on my Tivo box especially the HD content or is that unrelated to tv package size?

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35694319)

Sky's Now TV entertainment pack price is going up from 4.99 to 6.99 per month on the 31st May http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...rice-hike.html

Just when i was thinking of picking a box up too.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35694321)

And some members said prices would not go up due to a competitive packed marketplace.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35694417)

£6.99 isn't too bad tbh it's about the same price for http://www.vutv.com/

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35694439)

Typical Sky. They raise the price by 40% as the current series of Game of Thrones reaches its climax. Criminal.
Now TV was unavailable most of last Sunday and had nationwide problems again on Monday, the picture quality is poor and it buffers regardless of your broadband speed. The On Demand service is more watchable than the live streams, but is still blighted by ridiculous indent breaks every few scenes.
And they wonder why people download illegal copies...

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35694417)

£6.99 isn't too bad tbh it's about the same price for http://www.vutv.com/

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35694319)

Sky's Now TV entertainment pack price is going up from 4.99 to 6.99 per month on the 31st May http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php...rice-hike.html

Just when i was thinking of picking a box up too.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35694883)

Just watched this weeks 'Click' on BBC News (it should be on the iplayer soon for those who want to watch it) and thought that this might be useful for those of you who want to watch Netflix etc on your TV, as opposed to on a tablet, laptop etc, but are currently unable to do so.

About 20 mins in, they cover ways to do this easily.

The first way is to use a Chromecast Dongle, which is now available in the UK for £30 and contains a browser:

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/google...er-netflix-tow

The second way they covered was the use of a Roku stick and the third was Amazons Fire TV (currently only available in the USA).

Can any of these be used to access Now TV, to enable those VM subscribers who use this to watch Sky Atlantic to enjoy a better viewing experience?

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35694960)

You can watch NowTV (albeit with the usual quality issues) on a tablet or smartphone, so I guess you can then stream it to a Chromecast or similar. Having said that, Sky disables the HDMI out on the Sky Go App, so they may have done similar with NowTV.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35694883)

Just watched this weeks 'Click' on BBC News (it should be on the iplayer soon for those who want to watch it) and thought that this might be useful for those of you who want to watch Netflix etc on your TV, as opposed to on a tablet, laptop etc, but are currently unable to do so.

About 20 mins in, they cover ways to do this easily.

The first way is to use a Chromecast Dongle, which is now available in the UK for £30 and contains a browser:

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/google...er-netflix-tow

The second way they covered was the use of a Roku stick and the third was Amazons Fire TV (currently only available in the USA).

Can any of these be used to access Now TV, to enable those VM subscribers who use this to watch Sky Atlantic to enjoy a better viewing experience?

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw (Post 35695086)

The roku stick has nowtv. Mind you if you don't need Netflix (as you get it on the TiVo box) you can get a nowtv specific roku box for £10.

Not that I would.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35696362)

Thanks for the info.

From what I have seen, most people on Cableforum seem happy with Now TV, but this thread on Digital Spy shows that some people have been having problems.

It also states that a Sky CS rep stated that Now TV is a seperate entity to Sky, if correct, I didn't know that!

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1961490

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35696447)

l have just had a email this morning from Netflix which says...

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35696447)

l have just had a email this morning from Netflix which says.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35696447)

l have just had a email this morning from Netflix which says.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35696559)

most of the other stuff I've seen many moons back on pay TV.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35696400)

BIB is absolute bullcrap from Sky, a friend of mine signed up to nowtv and within a day his nowtv account was cancelled as he still owed Sky money from when he had Sky and Sky never refunded him the £8.99 he had paid either.
Skys moto should be Sky do not believe in better.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35696595)

I think you do Netflix an injustice with the "many moons back" statement. Particularly the US, where many of the US current seasons, that will show their season finale this month, will be added within the next few months, based on what happened last year.

Things like Suits, Bitten, season 1 of Vikings, Da Vinci's Demons and season 1 and 2 of XIII: The Series, to name but a few, have also been added to various regions and they are hardly many moons old.

Some shows; Top of The Lake and Orphan Black spring to mind, have even been shown on Netflix before a UK TV broadcast

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35696607)

Sorry, I don't quite get that, theone. So this guy owed Sky money but didn't pay it back, but thinks Sky is in the wrong for not refunding his Now Tv money and cancelling the account?

How exactly is Sky in the wrong? Are we missing something here?

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35696626)

To be fair, I can't see anything in the NOW TV terms to say that if you owe Sky money, you can't get it, or that any money owed to you by NOW TV will be kept to pay debt to Sky.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35696595)

I think you do Netflix an injustice with the "many moons back" statement. Particularly the US, where many of the US current seasons, that will show their season finale this month, will be added within the next few months, based on what happened last year.

Things like Suits, Bitten, season 1 of Vikings, Da Vinci's Demons and season 1 and 2 of XIII: The Series, to name but a few, have also been added to various regions and they are hardly many moons old.

Some shows; Top of The Lake and Orphan Black spring to mind, have even been shown on Netflix before a UK TV broadcast

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35696607)

Sorry, I don't quite get that, theone. So this guy owed Sky money but didn't pay it back, but thinks Sky is in the wrong for not refunding his Now Tv money and cancelling the account?

How exactly is Sky in the wrong? Are we missing something here?

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35696640)

I think Sky make up their own rules as they go along lol, nasty company in my opinion and i hope karma does bite them hard.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35696666)

Apparently, because the £10 is cheaper than a media streamer, somebody has sideloaded plex and uses the Sky Now TV box as a media streamer, because one can't get a proper media streamer for that price. Does anybody know what this is all about, as it's not something I know anything about.


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I think it's because the two companies are supposedly seperate entities. I would look into this more deeply if they had done this to me. Either the Sky CS rep is lying (nothing new there then) or the outstanding money has been reclaimed unlawfully.

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Very true. After being with Sky from the beginning, some years ago, following a death in front of me in my home, I couldn't stay there until I had gone some way to getting over it.

I went to stay with a friend in a semi rural area, but, before leaving, I rang to cancel Sky.

Just under a year later I was preparing to try and get my life back on track and was preparing to go home. I rang Sky to have it put back on ready for my return.

Whilst under obvious distress, I was told that it had not been turned off as they had received no request to do so (despite forwarding any outstanding bills to my friends address).

I said that would be fine, as long as I wasn't charged for sending the signal to an empty house. They point blank refused, so I explained the full harrowing story of what had happened (at which point I broke down).

There was no empathy or consideration whatsoever, they robotically asked if I had returned to the house during my time away. When I said that I had been in and out to check my post and for security reasons, they said "surely you stopped to watch the TV for a bit"!!!

When I said that I hadn't and that I just wanted to be in and out of the place as it was freaking me out, they said "well, the service was available for your use and no charges would be refunded"!!!

At this point I said that I no longer wanted anything to do with such a company and to cancel all services immediately. What happened next beggared belief- they said that they wanted a months notice to cancel :shocked:

This caused me to break down and I contacted my friend and solicitor. He spoke to them and they agreed to waive the months notice, but still refused to honour the refund request.

You see, as it was done on the 'phone, I had no tangible proof that I had ever called. They abused this fact to get about 11 months worth of subscriptions out of me whilst I was at such a low point.

My advice is don't EVER cancel Sky by telephone. ALWAYS do it in writing or by email.

And this is how I came to join the VM family :)

The truth is that Sky thought that they were being clever by doing this, but it has cost them a lot more money than what they made out of me in the long run.

I have never used them from that point, some of my family and peer group cancelled too, we won't use Sky in our commercial operations (apart from some units where Sky Sports is essential) and I don't allow staff who live on any of our premises to have a satellite dish installed (I know this affects Freesat too, but this is the only legal way that I can prevent them from subscribing to Sky).

Multiply this over the years and you can see that their nasty little trick didn't quite work in their financial favour after all ;)

So, after all that, I wholeheartedly agree with theone2k10 about them being a nasty company who don't deserve to be in business.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35696595)

I think you do Netflix an injustice with the "many moons back" statement. Particularly the US, where many of the US current seasons, that will show their season finale this month, will be added within the next few months, based on what happened last year.

Things like Suits, Bitten, season 1 of Vikings, Da Vinci's Demons and season 1 and 2 of XIII: The Series, to name but a few, have also been added to various regions and they are hardly many moons old.

Some shows; Top of The Lake and Orphan Black spring to mind, have even been shown on Netflix before a UK TV broadcast

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35696728)

What region is bitten on bud ???

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35696640)

They claim nowtv has nothing to do with Skytv subscription services basically unless i misread something, i told my friend to bloodywell just pay them it's only £32 but his stand is Sky declined cashback so he is fighting them now too.
Personally i would of just paid up and said "see ya Sky" lol but my mate is stubborn lol.
I was refering to this from Richards post "It also states that a Sky CS rep stated that Now TV is a seperate entity to Sky"

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35696804)

OK, theone, I'm not judging because I don't know the facts, but I was just concerned about the limited information you posted.

I too have concerns with the way Sky operates, but just couldn't make out how they were in the wrong on the basis of the information you provided.

Didn't mean to offend, you understand.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35696719)

I've got my own fight going on with Sky too some may remember they got me to sign up offering 12 months half price and £180 cashback, none were honored so i'm fighting them, i'm in contact with ofcom who are extremly interested in this case (makes me think i'm not the first Sky did this too) and are looking into it, even trading standards told Sky they must honor any incentives offered even if cashback is offered via Quidco or topcashback it is Skys responsibility to honor it, Sky ofcourse are playing dumb, typical lol.

Anyway back on topic lol Animemax is now in the uk you can access it via the ps3 app, not sure about other consoles.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35696904)

I hope you manage to get something done about it. Another trick that they use is to tell you that you must write in with your complaint to their "correspondence department" They know full well that most people won't and those that do are ignored as no reply is received.

I would be so happy if they went bust and someone decent picked up the business for a song, minus the debts they ran up building up the business.

They initially lost money, then coined it in for years and now, hopefully, new technology will supercede them and make their business model obsolete, forcing a collapse.

This would allow a newcomer to take over and reap the rewards.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35697330)

Just to update looks like the order has gone through just had email confirming Nowtv box is on it's way, also the movie pass is still active.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35697539)

Further update Sky have indeed suspended my NowTV account which confirms the CS were lying.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35698154)

If I were you, i'd carefully check both the linear TV and Now TV contracts and look for anything that allows them to recover money in this way. I'd also do some research to confirm whether the two companies are officially connected.

If the companies are officially connected, you were misled/lied to by CS. If not, this is as ridiculous as Marks & Spencer witholding £5 of your change and passing it onto a third party because you owe them a fiver!

Additionally, even if it is in the contract, it doesn't always follow that they are allowed to do what the contract says they can do. If the contract is deemed unfair, illegal, null and void etc, the fact that you may have agreed to it is irrelevant.

Either way, my next port of call would be to lodge a formal complaint with those responsible for upholding trading standards in your area. Doing this will trigger an investigation :)

Let me know if I can be of any further help (I may also be able to put you in touch with a third party whose job it is to check contracts).

Good luck!

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35698160)

Thanks mate, well the NowTV box arrived today and it's useless without a NowTV account can't do anything, i've email skys ceo office to see if they can help and someone from Sky was supposed to be calling me back yesterday, surprise surprise no phonecall.
We've located the account in question it's a old account that was cancelled 7 years ago it seems cs did not put the cancellation through and Sky continued to bill me after i moved. Hopefully ceo office will sort this out or i'll be requesting my £9.99 back.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35698239)

Good luck with that! You know Sky have form on this sort of thing, don't you?

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35698243)

Think i've got them mate, the woman i spoke to openly admitted that the NowTV box shouldn't of been sent if there was a doubt on my account, now i record my phonecalls as i have the call recorder app and i used my mobile as unlimited calls lol, In her credit she did try to help but apparantly there is a £131 debt on my account, guess where from? From where Sky have mysteriously lost the call when i phoned up to cancel 7 years ago, to my workings i'm actually owed £1.26 by sky lol.
Ohwell nothing lost really as just created a dud nowtv account and got box up and running and using it as catch up tv service plus i sideloaded plex so got a media streamer too, can't really grumble at that.
Skys loss not mine lol.

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35698291)

Do sky not engage debt collectors then? You'd think they would have if they're sure you owed it?

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35698293)

It's a account from my old address it is my old account but i know 100% i had cancelled Sky and hadn't cancelled the direct debit so they could take the final bill out which they did. Just to be safe i left the direct debit active after 6 months of Sky taking no further payments the bank closed the direct debit themselves.
My bet is Sky never cancelled the account when asked but the baffling thing is why not take anymore money then? as i'd left the direct debit active lol.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35698405)

H'mmm - I'd check my credit ratings if I were you.