Re: Euro 2012
 

aaahhh so close!!!

Re: Euro 2012
 

Theo made a huge difference but Gerrard has been our best player by far for the two games. Not hard to see why LFC missed him so much.

Re: Euro 2012
 

oooo Danny Welbeck what a finish!

Its rarely boring when you watch England in tournaments thats for sure....

Re: Euro 2012
 

sweden deserve to go out..if they can't beat England, they don't deserve to be there

Re: Euro 2012
 

Well done England :D :tu:

Now can you please stop sitting deep and trying to defend a one nil lead when you struggle to keep possession?

Re: Euro 2012
 

could you start scoring?

Re: Euro 2012
 

eh?

Re: Euro 2012
 

just 1 goal from Holland so far? thats criminal

Re: Euro 2012
 

England played really well the first half, come the second half it was back to the `Usual` England performance for about 20 minutes,:erm: bought on Walcott and then they picked it up a notch and won.!!!!!;);) Well done lads, I think my neighbours must hate me by now! all the swearing etc.
I can`t believe that the defenders don`t stay goalside of the attackers.?:mad:

---------- Post added at 22:34 ---------- Previous post was at 22:31 ----------

Why were some people posting while the game is taking place.? :erm:

Re: Euro 2012
 

Oh that. Yes, with the quality of the players we have results this tournament are absolutely shocking. And I don't see us beating Portugal either. We managed one win and three draws in 10 games against them, so chances of us packing our suitcases after Sunday are high. I just hope they manage to play a decent game.

As I heard someone say: I can deal with playing attractive attacking football and losing, I can deal with playing ugly defensive football and winning, but I can't deal with playing ugly defensive football and losing. Let's go back to romantically dying in adventurous beauty. :)

Re: Euro 2012
 

I reckon youll manage to score and sneak in. Germany should win vs Denmark.

last group fixtures daily are at the sametime which will add some spice.

multitasking. females think we cant ;)

Re: Euro 2012
 

We need to win by 2 goals, which we're not going to do with the current starting 11. So: v.d. Vaart in for v. Bommel, Affelay out, and Huntelaar in. Probably put Kuyt in instead of Robben as well.

Screw the defence. You just need to score more than you let in...

Aanvalluh!!!

Re: Euro 2012
 

Never seen affelay do anything for club or country...

Re: Euro 2012
 

Summed up perfectly dan.:tu:

Re: Euro 2012
 

Females arent so good at it either, have you ever tried telling a woman to sit down and shut up?

Good result last night. Did anyone see the lasers all over the French playeri when he was taking a corner against Ukraine? I hope we wont be subjected to that nonsense.

Re: Euro 2012
 

I wonder if this female can slam a few heads together whilst spanking a few backsides!!! ;)

Re: Euro 2012
 

I like him. He's a very good player when in form. There's a reason he plays for Barca. Sadly, he's been injured a lot this season, and he's not producing the goods right now. That's v. Marwijk's problem. He's banked on Affelay and Robben to produce the attacking flair and they're not doing it. There's other options in Huntelaar and v.d. Vaart. It's time he starts using them from the off.

Re: Euro 2012
 

lol I was waiting for someone to react to his remark :D

Re: Euro 2012
 

You naughty man.:naughty::naughty:

Re: Euro 2012
 

There are other 'forums' for 'stuff' like that you know... :naughty:

;)

As regards England, how often do we have to suffer the 'doldrums' in which, after starting brightly, they can't pass or keep hold of the ball for more than 10 seconds during extended periods of their matches? It's so frustrating!

Still, having said that they scored 3 great goals and managed to come back to win after looking like they'd given up and reverted back into their shells. Credit to Gerrard, whose very skillful effort on the touchline kept the ball in play and created the chance for Carroll to bury so expertly.

Can they win the tournament? Yes, but so can many of the other teams IMHO, as the Greeks proved a few years ago. Will they win? Doubt it very much. To progress very far, they'll need to do a whole lot better than they did for large chunks of last night's game. They'll also probably need a big bit of luck in the mix.

To be honest, I'll be happy if this team just gel and start to show some real promise as a unit. If they go out fighting and giving 100% that's fine by me but if they do their usual trick of losing their way and capitulating, I don't know where we go from there. On paper the individual talent's there but in practice the combination of skill, tactics, character, professionalism, psychology etc. has so often proved to be wanting.

Before the tournament I'd have been happy for England to reach the quarter final stages, now I feel more is just possible but based on previous experience, highly unlikely. To be frank, right now I'd be more likely to bet on England losing 1-0 to Ukraine than them winning comfortably. Time will tell...

Re: Euro 2012
 

What happens today. theres 1 fixture, Czeck v Poland. Does Greece take the points from the Russia game?

Re: Euro 2012
 

Two games being played..different channels
Sat 16th Jun Czech Republic v Poland UEFA Euro 2012 Group A 19:45 BBC1 / BBC1 HD
Sat 16th Jun Greece v Russia UEFA Euro 2012 Group A 19:45 BBC HD / BBC

Re: Euro 2012
 

ahh just seen thanks man. i thought their game had been thrown out for the trouble

Re: Euro 2012
 

I'll be watching on one of the foreign channels if Lawro is the BBC match "expert" for our game tonight.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Lawro annoys me on BBC, and adrian annoys me on ITV...both are hopeless

Re: Euro 2012
 

l know as he is just another of the irritating idiots they have on the BBC.:td:

Re: Euro 2012
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18461087

Good. Now let's see them take some real action please.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Getting into all this football madness, i must be coming down with something :D.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Man flu l suspect and play on it and then your partner will be at your beck and call for the next few days.:D;)

Re: Euro 2012
 

I want Poland and Russia to win tonight

Re: Euro 2012
 

l wholeheartily agree Sir.:D

Re: Euro 2012
 

Who're made even more annoying by the obscene amounts of money the BBC chooses to pay them.

---------- Post added at 20:44 ---------- Previous post was at 20:43 ----------

Don't hold your breath.

Re: Euro 2012
 

major upsets

Re: Euro 2012
 

Embarrassing and gutless :( Whole team was awful but Piszczek and Lewandowski should hang their heads in shame... worst individual performances I have seen in a Poland shirt for a long time.

Re: Euro 2012
 

why didnt Lewandowski net bagfulls?! not only in this one but prior. the opening goal thats it!! i lost a pound thanks very much.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Don't bet..mugs game.

Shocking results. Makes quarterfinals less attractive, though I will still watch them

Re: Euro 2012
 

i know but im only toying with max 1£ bets

Re: Euro 2012
 

Lewandowski hasn't turned up for any of the games, goal or not. Strolling around, ball watching, waiting for something to happen and not bothering to challenge for possession aren't really characteristics you would expect to see from a forward who scored the most goals in his league the previous season.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Russia out! Czechs beat Poland! My wife's happy... and if she's happy, I'm happy...

Re: Euro 2012
 

BBC are reporting that Smuda has resigned as Poland coach after tonight's game. Can't say I am surprised as he's as culpable as that gutless shower who let everyone down tonight.

Re: Euro 2012
 

And this is the player Man Utd were thinking of buying.:td:

Re: Euro 2012
 

Let's hope they do ;)

Re: Euro 2012
 

Holland will be raising the bar tonight. It makes the goal a little larger and scoring easier :tu: :)

Re: Euro 2012
 

Some great quotes coming from some players over the last few days -

Zlatan: "I don't give a **** who wins it now. I'm going on holiday."

Arshavin to Russian fans at the airport: "It's not our problem we didn't meet your expectations. It's your problem"

:D

Re: Euro 2012
 

Typical attitude from players who lost their hunger for success years ago.:td:

Re: Euro 2012
 

:rofl:

Re: Euro 2012
 

Portugal v Netherlands (19:45 BST)

Portugal: Rui Patricio, Joao Pereira, Bruno Alves, Pepe, Fabio Coentrao, Meireles, Veloso, Joao Moutinho, Nani, Postiga, Ronaldo.
Subs: Eduardo, Custodio, Almeida, Quaresma, Nelson Oliveira, Ricardo Costa, Rolando, Ruben Micael, Varela, Miguel Lopes, Hugo Viana, Beto.

Holland: Stekelenburg, Willems, Mathijsen, Vlaar, Van Der Wiel, Van der Vaart, Nigel De Jong, Sneijder, van Persie, Robben, Huntelaar.
Subs: Vorm, Heitinga, Bouma, Van Bommel, Kuyt, Schaars, Strootman, Luuk De Jong, Narsingh, Afellay, Boulahrouz, Krul.

Referee: Nicola Rizzoli (Italy)

---------- Post added at 19:20 ---------- Previous post was at 19:19 ----------

Denmark v Germany (19:45 BST)

Denmark: Andersen, Jacobsen, Kjaer, Agger, Simon Poulsen, Kvist Jorgensen, Eriksen, Jakob Poulsen, Zimling, Krohn-Delhi, Bendtner.
Subs: Lindegaard, Christian Poulsen, Rommedahl, Bjelland, Okore, Schone, Silberbauer, Pedersen, Wass, Kahlenberg, Mikkelsen, Schmeichel.

Germany: Neuer, Bender, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm, Khedira, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Ozil, Podolski, Gomez.
Subs: Wiese, Gundogan, Schmelzer, Howedes, Schurrle, Klose, Mertesacker, Kroos, Gotze, Reus, Zieler.

Referee: Carlos Velasco Carballo (Spain)

---------- Post added at 19:20 ---------- Previous post was at 19:20 ----------

goals galore tonight.. i hope

Re: Euro 2012
 

Robben opens his mouth again saying there are too many big ego's in the Dutch side.

Re: Euro 2012
 

nice start Dutchie

Re: Euro 2012
 

Brilliant goal by Van Der Vaart so there is always hope yet.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Very clever...they give ball to Robben..everyone knows robben will cut inside and shoot...but..robben passes to van der vaart.
I'm sure the dutch planned that tactic :D

Re: Euro 2012
 

My worry here for the dutch is their shocking defending at times.

---------- Post added at 20:13 ---------- Previous post was at 20:09 ----------

They just won't learn as Ronaldo levels to make it 1-1.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Nani's play acting is embarrassing...who votes for the raspberries? :)

Re: Euro 2012
 

he likes blowing

Re: Euro 2012
 

Not good enough. Try stringing some passes together.

Re: Euro 2012
 

That's the problem with Portugal always cheating haven't seen a single game in the last 20 years where they don't cheat

Re: Euro 2012
 

A team full of talented individuals but with as much unity as a Scotsman prepared to support us across the border.:)

Re: Euro 2012
 

It still amazes me, that England is not satisfied with its own fans,,,it wants other countries to support them.

Scotland is not part of England Den, and I have never in my whole life ever wanted England to support Scotland, so why would you feel we should support you?

Oh, though you can have our lager louts, they will feel at home with some of your supporters :D

Re: Euro 2012
 

Its amazes me how many of the Scots have this hatred against the English as l don't have the same hatred against them because if they were in this tournament or any other tournament l would be supporting then against their opponents.:)

Re: Euro 2012
 

Den, you mistake not supporting England, as hating England.

Please try and get past the insecurities, I do not hate England, I just don't support them.

Given I am Scottish, with some polish and american ancestry, why in the world would I support England?

And I don't support a lot of other countries, and equally don't hate them.

Problem is, unless we swear blind loyalty, and want to have your kids, you will view it as hating you,

Well, to go on record, I don't hate english...but I don't want your kids either :D

Re: Euro 2012
 

in other news Van Persies still not giving a good account of himself.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Perhaps its best to sell him while they can still get £30 million then.:)

Re: Euro 2012
 

He needs a rest, and might get it with Man City :D

Re: Euro 2012
 

well that backfired should have let you two carry on!

nope :p: id only want Falcao as a replacement and thats not going to happen.

benched? nooo his old mans already said no to City :p:

---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:08 ----------

blowy missed.. HA!

Re: Euro 2012
 

Absolutely. I'm getting pretty tired with people assuming that just because I'm not supporting England it means I hate them or want them to lose. I just don't care. I'll be pleased if they win the whole thing but if they lose, meh.

Yes there's always friendly rivalry but to assume it equates to hatred is paranoia at its best. I watched the Sweden game and thought all 4 of England's goals were good ;)

Re: Euro 2012
 

Its all over now for the Dutch.:(

Re: Euro 2012
 

blowys real deal mate puts Portugal 2-1 up

---------- Post added at 21:18 ---------- Previous post was at 21:16 ----------

The Dutch are lost. tippy tappy pull your finger out and just link up!

Re: Euro 2012
 

Germany should be through now. Bender scores.

Re: Euro 2012
 

well thats that then

Re: Euro 2012
 

Oh well. Back to the drawing board, and attacking football :)

It still amazes me how a team that managed to reach the WC final can implode like that. We had a great run qualifying, until 6 months ago when it started to unravel.

Re: Euro 2012
 

And we are out ffs i do hope van marwijk does the easy thing and resign as this was a very very poor showing of our lot

Re: Euro 2012
 

I don't see him staying on. He'll have lost the support of the players, and not fancy his chances for the next tournament. It doesn't make sense for him to stay on.

Worst tournament ever btw. Played 3 lost 3...

Re: Euro 2012
 

Told you we'd knock you out ;)

Re: Euro 2012
 

Yeah, rub it in...

Re: Euro 2012
 

Ok..... RONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LDO!!!!

To be honest as soon as we got the equaliser you guys just became a totally different team.

Having said that Portugal played really well. I thought Bruno ALves was immense in defense, and boith Nani and Ronaldo played well. We should make the semis.

Re: Euro 2012
 

There's no doubt you were the better team. We completely lost if after the equaliser. I still can't grasp how a group of players with such talent can fail so miserably. Perhaps things would have been different if we had taken some of those chances against Denmark. As it was, the pressure just kept increasing. Then again, they seemed to lose it after about 20 minutes in every game.

Ah well, they may be a bunch of losers, but they're still our losers.

Re: Euro 2012
 

To be honest if they hadn't been in Portugal's group or if Portugal were out, I'd have loved to see Holland win it. Was rooting for them in the last World Cup final too.


Like you say, if you had beaten Denmark (and on another day you would have put 5 past them!) you'd have probably taken some huge momentum into the next matches - I like the look of Ibrahim Ilfeni (sp?) by the way. Looks class!

Re: Euro 2012
 

Affelay?

Yes, he's a great player when in form. He was out with injury for most of the year though.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Yep that's the one. Looked really good.

Re: Euro 2012
 

There's a reason he plays for Barca ;)

Re: Euro 2012
 

theres also a reason why Barca would let him go :p: not that im taking a dig. id take him to Arsenal

Re: Euro 2012
 

Don't be greedy.

Re: Euro 2012
 

I think he'd want to play for a top 2 club......

Re: Euro 2012
 

:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

Re: Euro 2012
 

:p:

I think he wants to join his buddy Van Persie at Arsenal

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/06/7.gif

Re: Euro 2012
 

Spain to go out anyone? so so poor

Re: Euro 2012
 

Yes, I was thinking same thing

Re: Euro 2012
 

here we go tippy tappy now. even more abuse to the ball

---------- Post added at 21:35 ---------- Previous post was at 21:04 ----------

your man Super Marios angry again Colin lol

Spain finally score

Re: Euro 2012
 

And England could be playing them in the Q/F.:)

Re: Euro 2012
 

Well done Clive. Talk all over the anthem. Can ITV try and go one game with out cocking things up.

Roy put Chiles in this place.

---------- Post added at 19:51 ---------- Previous post was at 19:47 ----------

Oh great the band, bring back the vuvuzelas

Re: Euro 2012
 

At the moment, Ukraine look the more attacking and likely to win

---------- Post added at 20:16 ---------- Previous post was at 20:08 ----------

Carroll would have buried that header...if he remembered to be in right place :D

Re: Euro 2012
 

Yes England looking poor again.:td:

Re: Euro 2012
 

Think the Ukraine are going to regret not scoring when they were in the ascendancy.

Re: Euro 2012
 

anyone else think rooney looks like he has put on a few pounds and is not as fit as he should be

Re: Euro 2012
 

How can you tell? I could never see any difference between shrek, and shrek 2 and 3, i think i have same problem with rooney (1, 2 or 3, except I think his borrowed hair seems longer)

Re: Euro 2012
 

Should have left Rooney on the bench.

Re: Euro 2012
 

Yes l agree but the trouble with English managers is they seem somewhat deluded that he is going to be our great saviour when he has been nothing of the sort in a England shirt so far.

Re: Euro 2012
 

The England game is terrible, we have nothing up front and Hodgson needs his head examined for playing Rooney, he has had ONE shot on target.

We are very poor and should be two nil down, we have been under the cosh from a very good Ukraine side.

We need balls in the box with Carroll on and need Defoe on, we know that both players can score goals, or IF we go out or win by the odd goal, it will be the same ' they were much stronger to break down'

Absolutely, rubbish and the players need to take there fingers out of there back side and start playing football or we are going home.

Re: Euro 2012
 

I'm not convinced this is a very good Ukraine side...it is an ok side.

Re: Euro 2012
 

yes!!