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My brother is in a caravan in wales for holiday. Invited me up there. Might take him up on his offer

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I'd come too, but it's Wales :(

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Got a link please

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Yes take up his offer but don't forget to take your bridge toll money.;)

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www.google.co.uk

type in skynews or bbc news. it will be on both.

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Don't know how the police will cope with rioters of this caliber, well quite easily I'd imagine actually

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p39UL...layer_embedded

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Whats wrong with Wales.

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I used to say nothing surprises me any more...that is sick.

It just proves there is not a God, that he allows **** like that to be alive

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It's too far.

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I heard this on BBC news as well. No link (yet) I'm afraid.

Edit: It's on the BBC ticker now:

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its utterly despicable.

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Posted that back here : http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35285364-post392.html

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BBC cameraman assaulted in Salford as looters break into shops

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I wonder if they also have evidence that it wasn't pulled out and pointed at the police?

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Very funny and anyway i found it myself you were to slow and i was scared i was going to fall asleep waiting. :)

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Good. keeping active at your age can only be a good thing :)

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There are reports of disorder now in Wolverhampton and Birmingham town centre.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...four-live-blog

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...iots-live.html

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I don't think anyone claimed that?

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Man in Warrington arrested for organising riot calls on face book

http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.u...der/Page1.html

some one just sent this to me on face book

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Hugh is probably just thinking out loud.

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Mid Wales. Dont need it lol

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I think he was making a valid comment, in that the fact that Duggan didn't fire the gun doesn't mean that his killing was unlawful.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

I thought that been called Central that "MID" Wales would have been right up your street:erm::D:D:D

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Indeed,and I don't really think you even need to point the gun at the police to get shot.

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Police clash with rioters in Manchester City Centre http://mancunianmatters.co.uk/conten...ets-manchester

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Real rounds ? Might make a few think twice. :erm:

Time to corden off a few affected areas, send in the troops, declare martial law, round up all the rioters and deposit them on a remote island so they can riot themselves to death without harming the rest of us.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

There is more trouble at East Ham and Beckton leading to road closures.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

I see you can't bring yourself to admit your cheap shot in claiming I'd stated they'd condoned the riots, despite my clarification. Yes there have been many riots but when did you last see riots on this scale for 3-4 days with the police standing by powerless and watching shops and homes be looted and burned because they've been rendered impotent? IMO therein lies the difference between the past and now which you don't seem to see. That's what's been allowed to happen right under our noses and I've made it quite clear who I hold largely responsible for emasculating the police which is the main factor which I believe has allowed the troubles to spread and develop. That's really not the same thing as blaming Chakrabati, her organisation and/or her ilk (who I alluded to earlier) directly for the riots and if you can't accept that then that's your problem not mine.

Last night our local trading estate was ransacked and right now in our local park there is a large number of youths congregating with one thing on their minds and it isn't the local ducks. They've been in/out of our high street all day causing little incidents and intimidating people and I've no doubt they'll be considerably more trouble tonight. The police are there but despite all of what's happened they evidently feel powerless to do anything about it. These kids know their rights, the rules the police are bound by and exploit their civil liberties only too well. It's just a pity that those who taught them those rights and afforded them their liberties didn't make a better job of teaching them their responsibilities.

Anyway those of us, who have for a long time thought that things had gone too far, might in time have cause to thank these mindless idiots because I have a feeling that, through their wanton violence and destruction, they're going to make our argument to the powers that be far more persuasively than our words of warning were able to do....

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Yes. to us anyway. but it won't make any difference to them.
all they are interested in now is that he didn't fire at them.

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Cold hearted ****.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16046551

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I think it's fair to say they're only interested in running amok.

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That's the third time that's been posted.

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Unconfirmed reports of shooting in Salford.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Hopefully it's a resident that shot in self defence.

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My old library has been set on fire.

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I live no where near London, thankfully, but I do find the spreading of this thuggery and vermin, rather scary to be honest.

I guess that's what you get when you hand out "ASBO"'s rather than punish repeat offenders.

What I don't understand is why the police are just standing around with riot shields/armour, when thugs/hoodies are throwing bricks, smashing windows and knocking vans etc over?

What kinda country is this when people are allowed to do this thing? good lord.

From the BBC's twitter:

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I agree with the curfew idea ,we need to get the children under control and force the parents to watch them and while where at it any under age children identified in the riots shouldn't we be prosecuting the parents for neglect or something

That is not funny ,think of all the small buisnesses that have lost everything ,one was over 100yrs old handed down father to son ,it was burned to the ground last night do you think he will find that comment funny ?:mad:
I think you owe the forum and anybody who has been a victim of these riots an apology

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You were raised well, I can tell.:td:

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

l agree.

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If that does happen it will be the only good thing to come out of this

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The thread title needs to be changed again.

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Atleast people in the community are doing something about it

Twitter users name and shame Facebook users plotting Barnet riot

http://www.times-series.co.uk/news/t...acebook_group/

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My bad, its so hard to keep track on this thread xD.

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Reports of some unrest in Canning town.

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i heard on a news report this afternoon that some people have been arrested for inciting riot ,they where picked up after using facebook to try to get people together ...they realy are idiots ,i will put a months wage that a large portion of the mets rescources are being used to monitor Twitter and facebook

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I must admit, seeing two teenage girls drinking wine at 9am and saying how the arson and violence was "awesome", really makes me wish I could move to a remote island, heh.

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It makes me sick to my stomach .It makes me realise how much we have failed .It makes me realise how far we still have to go as a society ,instead of progressing we seem to be regressing

room on your island for another ?i don't take up much room

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http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16046775

IPCC say that Duggan did not fire at police

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Good call. If twitter was to be believed last night, nearly every shop in Bromley was set alight, and Primark blew up at least 7 times. Thankfully, while there was looting, I don't think any shop was actually set on fire.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

How about an archipelago? i quite fancy doing same, but could we each have their own island? I want to limit my direct companionship to just beautiful women.

Once we agree..I'll start making my list :D

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

done and done ,i'll take any spare brunettes :D

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Done..I'm sure some have brothers..or ugly sisters :D lol

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well said .

Just thinking after you posted ,would it be possible for Twitter and Face book to be shut down in the UK to stop the rioters from planning future riots

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

all kicking off in manchester town center

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Can that be done? Is their identity on twitter and facebook purely UK driven?

Or would you need to stop individual accounts that are UK based?

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

If you do that then how do those who are helping the clean ups get organised?:erm:

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

I have no idea ,but i hear other countries China ,Lybia or similar stopping access to these type of social network sites so just thought would it be posible to stop access to the sites accross the UK on a temporary basis should the riots continue

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the old fashioned way ,talk to people in real life :rolleyes:

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Carrier pigeon...go old school

The rioters would be confused if you told them that everyone was using their birds to talk..they probably think it meant they were to send their gfs out

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

I would imagine it's technically possible. Whether it's legally possible (or even desirable) without declaring Martial Law is another thing.

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Rioters have set fire to a Miss Selfridge shop on Market Street in Manchester city centre.

Hundreds of youths ran down the street smashing the windows on another clothes store, while dozens tried to force the door of the Arndale shopping centre.

Hundreds of riot police had tried to move crowds who had gathered on Piccadilly Gardens, leading to running battles with youngsters wearing masks and hoods


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...four-live-blog

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14459516



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Oh like using their mobiles.:rolleyes:

My point is that the social networks aren't to blame and that they actually can do some good in this case:rolleyes:

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Twazzup is pretty good for info.

Manchester

Salford

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I don't remember the police actually ever stating that Duggan fired i think it was a natural assumption as we tend to forget that the police don't need to be fired on to shoot someone .Of course the family are sying that it is a disgrace that he was shot ,do they think it was a disgrace that he carried a loaded gun ?

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

That link appears to be contradicting itself.

First it states and then, further down, it states

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didn't say they where to blame Maggie ,i implied that they are being used to organise gangs of rioters and wondered if the police ,if the situation gets worse ,could have them shut down on a temporary basis ,if that means inconveniencing a few people then tough there is a bigger issue than "i am doing my ironing".Any way as pointed out it would most likely be illegal because of the wishy washy society we have built for ourselves

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I don't know about what they are saying but I think a degree of myopia is understandable on their part.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Well Hugh that's problem when everyone demands answers instantly instead of waiting until all the facts can be released.You can only get half of them because forensic tests always take time unlike the US cop shows would have us believe.;)

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

It's a very dodgy road to go down. Twitter and Facebook are communication tools and giving the government the power to shut them down is dangerous in the extreme. We harm our own freedom and liberties while the thugs will find some other way to plan their chaos.

re: England Riots August 2011 (Was London Riots)
 

Well here we go then. it's almost dark outside.

let's see what the police are going to do tonight.

and please don't run when the kids charge you :(

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True that.

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Yes l agree with you.

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Live: UK riots http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

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Dark? Where are you in the UK?? Sun still shining and blue sky here down south!

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i know ,still another 2 hours of daylight yet the little darlings will still be in bed

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Sorry, I forgot I still had my shades on from coming in from the garden.

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UPDATED Thugs attacking Piccadilly in Manchester, according to eyewitness on BBC. Reports of hundreds battleing police in the Arndale centre as well

Gangs of racist thugs are sprinting through Enfield, Guardian journalist

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...iots-live.html

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Racist?

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does he mean ....racing?

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If you press on the link on post 576 you will see it there.

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See it.
100 white men, 30s-40s, sprinting along Hertford Rd. Shouts of "Get the Pakistanis."

I added the bold so as not to offend.

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from my earlier sky link

yes i understand that the family will feel resentful and bitter ,and although the family have condemned the rioting the riots did start in the name of their dead son and publicly saying that "someone must be held accountable" is out of order and is not going to help the situation ,the only person who is accountable for this mess is their son ,the one who was illegaly carrying a gun that had been modified from a blanks only weapon to a lethal weapon .Yes i realise that i sound a bit harsh but the family must face the reality that their son was a *******

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Check this idiots picture on a facebook page of naming and shaming

https://www.facebook.com/home.php?re...4113911&type=1

I've added cropped images

Not only is they guy stupid to say what he's stolen, he has where he works, how long before hes sacked, and no tribunal would/should back him.

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Like I said, they are unlikely to have a balanced view of the situation or their son. That said they are entitled to justice so the IPCC is investigating and then we'll see if anyone needs to be held accountable other than just their son.

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agreed ,i fear they will have a long wait though i think 6mths was mentioned on Sky

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nice one Mick ,quick and decisive action ,care to run for PM ? :)

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No. we wouldn't like his policies :)

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No l am nominating you Martyh for that.:)

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Breaking into the Arndale Centre

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/08/40.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

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The idiot caught on camera starting the fire at Miss Selfridges

http://www.itv.com/granada/miss-self...-on-fire44970/

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l thought l would put this on as it kind of shows the solidarity and goodwill from the vast amount of people who are a force for good in this country.


20.44 Our reporter Heidi Blake has got in touch about the now-famous Peckham Poundland:


The boarded-up window of a looted branch of Poundland in Peckham has been turned into a message board under the heading: "Why we love Peckham". Hundreds of local people have covered the boards in coloured post-it notes with messages of good will and solidarity following the riots which have shaken the community.


Here are a selection of the messages:


- Diversity of culture and foods. Celebration of diverse interests.
- Family, belonging, creativity.
- Because God loves Peckham.
- Because it is my home. There is so much potential here.
- All my children and grandchildren were born here.
- Because there are more people here that care about Peckham than those who don't.
- I have lived here for 22 years and it is full of good people. Keep everyone safe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...iots-live.html

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Around 100 youths looted Foot Asylum in the Arndale Centre in Manchester after two raiders smashed open the glass entrance with a large stone slab.

The Press Association reports:


Once the glass was shattered, youngsters rushed in and carried out clothing and shoes.

They dispersed towards Deansgate when a police van arrived at the scene and a lone officer in riot gear stepped out.

Officers with dogs then began to patrol the area. A line of officers then blocked the bottom of Market Street at the junction with Cross Street.

Large groups of people began to gather along Deansgate. Looters helped themselves to bottles of alcohol from Sainsbury's Local at the corner of Bridge Street.

The thieving continued for several minutes in front of onlookers. All had grabbed what they wanted and disappeared into the side streets before three police vans arrived


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...four-live-blog

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2103: A policeman and his dog walk towards a burning car in Birmingham.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/08/39.jpg

Also it seems like they are all at it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

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Unbelievable :(

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BBC NEWS: Miss Selfridges has been set on fire in Manchester,Apparently looters were annoyed when they realised that they don't actually sell fridges :D

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I'm amazed that so far there has only been one recorded death.

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A number of blazes were started by juveniles rioting at a young offenders institution in Bristol tonight, the local fire service said.

My colleague, Beatrice Woolf, reports that up to 10 teenagers at Ashfield set fire to rubbish in one of the wings at about 7.50pm.

It took members of staff about 50 minutes to extinguish the flames, according to Avon Fire and Rescue Service, who were put on standby.

"About seven to 10 people were involved in a riot," a spokesman said. "The prison staff are now dealing with the perpetrators."

The fires were said to be small, with the level of damage done unclear. Some 400 male juveniles aged between 15 and 18 are held at Ashfield after being sentenced in courts across the South West, Wales, the Midlands and the London area


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/20...four-live-blog

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I agree Hom3r.

I feel sorry for the innocent shop owners being caught up in this, not to mention the families in flats above shops, to.