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Sour grapes me thinks!:bsmack:

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Ha ha :D Just to balance it out here's some TIVO news

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/newsdeta...storyid=192991

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You need to take your Sky blinkers off ;)

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Look pal I'm only having a bit of banter pulling your leg , TIVO is a great prduct and does things from the box Sky+ cannot currently, it is a massive step for VM and will prove big competition for Sky. I was merely stating I don't think Sky regret their decision of going with Sky+. The main thing VM need to do is educate people on TIVO and it's functions.

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A SKY box will never ever have the same functionality as a TiVo box as they never took up the option to use TiVo products and any attempt to copy it would be breach of copyright.;)

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That is 100% correct mate.

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Yep, TiVo have all the patents locked up... Sky wouldn't be allowed to emulate much of TiVo's TiVoness :D

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I thought I would add that with your mention of currently.;)

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Lets face it Sky and VM both have there advantages, Sky have the linear channels and VM have catch up and BB for now.

Until VM add more content Sky will always have that advantage, likewise Sky will never be able to match VOD. No system is perfect for one reason or another, each to his own.

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I was merely mentioning it as recommendations has been mentioned on Sky

http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/1063...tform-AdSmart/

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Good point and over time TIVO will help VM as the V+ doesn't have services like remote record , HDD too small , non HD epg .

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Well said,Vm serious need to get more content now.Not coming soon !!!!!!!
Just been showing off my tivo to my bro today,He is well hooked.The more i play the more im amazed!!!!!!!!!!

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We're working on it :)

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Like we didn't know that already!

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I wonder if they'll offer any sweeteners once all existing customers are installed to try and tempt switchers.

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You may Carl but theres plenty who dont :D

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i havn't got TIVO yet but like what it does, maybe someday get one but as myself and probaly most people on here the activation fee stretches my budget so i wonder if i have to sign up for a new 12 month contract could i pay the activation fee over 12 months ?

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Go on you know you want it LOL :D

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i would love a TIVO mate but finances are crap at the moment !

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I know matey,Just so annoying seeing sky getting everything:(
That is apart from tivo lol

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Actually this could happen. My ipad and iphone dont run flash but the bbc did make an iplayer app that runs on them.

regards

john

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The Beeb will do it , Sky just need to stump the money up , that's what there arguing about.

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Am I the only who is bored rigid of muppetman11? I read this thread for TIVO news and having to wade through the constant comparisons to SKY etc. by him is getting tiresome. Whilst I agree with the 'perjorative' comment I can't help but think that the thread is being overtaken by one individuals viewpoint over and above many others? CF.Mega poster or not he is almost always off-topic and, in my view 'trolling'. Muppetman11, please can you leave this thread to those who are interested and post in the SKY forum where you belong please. Sense of humour failure OFF.

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Just back from a weeks holiday. Tivo sitting at 94%. Bit of watching to do!

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:d:d:d::d:d My posts are merely in response to questions people have asked me or correcting facts people have got wrong you can always add me to your ignore list and trolling I don't think so.

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if i call virgin media and askabout having TIVO and having the activation charge over the twelve months. doent hurt asking !

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I think you have to pay upfront but DF may be able to advise you.

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It's only available as an upfront charge, sorry.

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http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/product-f...ad_ipaddetails

Any idea when the iPad app arrives for VM TIVO ?

Found it

http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...service-912206

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I wish I could afford TIVO but at £149 for activation is way beyond my current budget. I already pay Virginmedia in excess of £110 a month for TV XL V+ HD, Phone XL and Broadband XXL - even that seems expensive compared to some people I have read about on here.

I have been looking at Sky, even though I have been with cable for years - from what I seen on their website it worked out cheaper than Virginmedia, which surprised me plus I would get more HD channels and the box is free (to keep).

TIVO looked promising but they want to add a further £3 a month on top of what I am paying now, and a £149 activation fee!! Unless, Virginmedia start showing me a reason why I should be paying such a huge amount per month they will be losing me as a customer. Lately, we been suffering from too many network issues for my liking...

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i thought it would be lol never mind !

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If you are paying over £110 then you are likely one on the VIP bundles

Both VIP 50 and VIP 100 customers are having the £3 fee included in the bundle

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All I would say is check your BB speed as you say your on XXL , Sky could offer you nowhere near them speeds.

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You can programme my Yamaha to say what you want ;)

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Sorry Hugh, didn't realise that was a banned term; I won't use it again.

I welcome input from Sky people to this cable thread, because there are some things Sky do better than VM and it's good to know about them.

But the input from Sky users should be ballanced and not, as is the case with some of the input, that Sky does everything as good or better than VM; this is clearly not the case and IMHO opinion shows bias to say that.

I should have found a more diplomatic way to express that.

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But do I not give both sides , see the post 2 above yours and many more. Some on here really hack you off and I don't mean you passingbat , ok so we've had banter but that's all it is.

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Df or anyone else in the know is it possible have the £149 added to your next bill or does it have to be paid by credit debit card sorry if this already been answered not had time look through all of this thread. Thanks

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Aplogies if this has been posted but streaming shows via apps has been mentioned as possible through TIVO

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...etflix-mad-men

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It will go on to your bill, you don't have to pay by card.

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Well, I guess that's one good thing. Yes, I am on the top VIP package with VM - but I noticed quite a few people on this forum pay less than I do per month.

I know BB with Sky would be a big difference in speeds, which is currently around 52Mb download - that is when I don't keep having to reboot the cable modem or call VM to find there's an outage in the area, yet again.

Perhaps I should give VM a ring and see if they will throw me in a free TIVO activation, well I can dream! lol ;)

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Thanks for your quick reply DF really looking forward to getting a Tivo now at first I was not going to be able to but now should be able to :)

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Can you pay by card though? Say if you wanted to stick it on a credit card

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Lets hope so.

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You need the mini Tivo due to be launched later this year, that will help financially, rumours are that the price will be £100 less.

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Could anybody with a Tivo just answer this query please which should be straight forward.
If you select a programme from the EPG on a +1 channel and set record series, will Tivo continue to record it on the +1 channel while it is clearly also available 1 hour earlier on the “live” channel?

The reason I ask this is that I will know upfront that there may be 3 programmes I want to record at 9pm and also know I will be watching live TV on another channel at that time.

So I want to deliberately avoid the clash in the first place and alert message when I am on live TV. By deliberately setting 1 of the recordings to a +1 channel I can avoid this.

I appreciate that if I set up series recording from the wish list, Tivo will select the first available programme slot available and if 3 recordings at 9pm are setup, when I get close to 9pm I will be asked to cancel 1 of the 3 if I need to keep watching live TV, so Tivo will then hunt for a repeat recording and select the +1 channel I presume (I take it would intelligently check all 3 planned recordings to find out which one is available to do this, it does just not pick at random 1 recording to cancel while live TV is being watched and that channel may not have a +1 available, so higher risk of missing that programme if this happens?).

However I would like to avoid this in the first place and be sure all 3 recordings are in place so setting up a +1 channel recording will help me achieve this.

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An interesting read on TIVOs thoughts for the future

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...learned_at_SNW

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What can I expect my monthly charge to be on VIP 50 with 2 V+ boxes and a Tivo. Currently paying £113 I think for 2 V+ and a basic.

Thanks for any reply.

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Yes. Series Links are channel-specific. They will still record if the programme moves by day and/or time but if it moves to another channel (like, say, House didi from five to Sky1) then new, separate, SL will be required.

Question for you. Why? The idea with Tivo - well, any DVR really - is that you don't watch anything live anymore. Even if it's a sporting fixture you should record it; with suitable padding, of course! Then you can sit down when you're ready to watch it.

Yes.

Yes. Always the 'next available'; even if that means recording the third showing if the second one clashes!

It will indeed; though clashes are less likely with three tuners available, unless you watch an awful lot of TV :shocked:

Either just £3 more for the Tivo or, if the rumours are correct, nothing at all as VIP customers may have the subs charge waived.

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Muppetman11 kindly suggested via PM that I add him to my ignore list. In my ignorance I did not even realise that I had one :) He is now the one and only person on it, and it definately makes reading this thread easier, I can recommend it's use to others.

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What Satellite & Digital TV's print review of TiVo due on April 14th (the article says Thursday April 18th but that's a Monday :erm:), TiVo on the front cover:
http://wotsat.techradar.com/news/exc...al-tv-08-04-11

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Been hoping to review the service, can't wait for it as been a fan of TiVo for years. Used to have an old TiVo box for recording I imported from overseas a while back!

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Sorry for stating the obvious, but even with TiVo, someone may be ready to watch something when it's actually airing on TV. Especially if it's something that utilises viewer interaction as part of the programming, or it's something like an important news broadcast.

Assuming DVRs (and TiVo in particular) are designed in such a way to make live viewing of programming completely unnecessary is ignoring how a significant number of people watch TV.

Dean

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Believe me you will be impressed matey,Never experienced tivo before this and got to say im totally impressed.With what it can do now and more in the future is awsome ;)

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Because the items we want to watch are not suitable for children so we watch something like Challenge channel live while I can have up to 3 other programes at 9pm to record.

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Agreed, especially these days when its hard not to be 'spoiled' about live events such as scores in football games; who got kicked off The Apprentice etc.

TiVo is the only UK PVR I know of without reminder functionality, and nothing in TiVo's feature set will compensate for that, no matter how people spin it. I can see this becoming more of an issue as people get TiVoed and go looking for that functionality which they've had for years on V+ HD/Sky +

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Reminders only work if you're sat in front of the TV watching something. As the Tivo will record it, rather than switch channel for you, what is the problem? You can watch a recording delayed by the few seconds it takes you to access it just as well as the live TV.

The setup time for recording will often be less because you set it once for a series link; you set reminders for everytime a show is on the TV and you may forget to set the reminder; once a series link is set, Tivo never forgets.

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I'm in when I come home from work, and I like to set reminders for all the football games I want to watch live throughout the week.

Ask yourself this - why does Sky+, the most popular PVR in the UK, have reminder functionality? Ditto V+ HD?

Does that not imply that some people still watch to watch some of their TV live? And they would like to be reminded when that TV content is on? And that, both Sky and Virgin knew that when developing the software for their PVRs?

When it comes to big sporting events (and they don't come much bigger than the Olympics), I watch to watch that live. If the EPG allows me, I'll like to set reminders for showpiece events like the 100m finals.

The other thing to consider is the rising use of Twitter to comment on live TV events, so while there's been a big shift towards a recording, catch-up, on-Demand world, live TV will continue to have its appeal for certain content/events, and I'd expect any PVR (let alone TiVo) to support that appeal.

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I Don't know; I see no point in it.

There is a point to having reminders on V+ because the third TV channel couldn't record, so you can record two channels and watch a third. Reminders then become important functionality for that third channel.

But, when all the tuners in a PVR record, I see no point in reminders.

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Because they are both extentions of the EPG designed before the PVR came along

Before the addition of the Hard Disk, Reminders were needed so you could set the STB to change channel when your VCR switched itself on. When the Hard Disk was added to Sky and Virgin, the bits needed to run the HDD were just added to the existing code, which is why Reminders stayed.

TiVo is designed from the ground up as a PVR, and designed to handle the channel changing itself, so Reminders weren't required so are not part of the EPG

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There is no reason why you can't watch a recorded programme running at the same time as the live programme (or at least within a few seconds), so that takes care of the twittering situation.

If VM add Reminders to Tivo, then that will add to the functionality, and that can't be bad in itself, even though I personally have no use for them.

I personally think that people are stuck in a slightly old mind set by hanging onto reminder functionality rather than taking advantage of the three recordable tuner functionality. Just my opinion of course.

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How on earth do you find time to watch all the programs you record, there are simply not enough hours in the day.

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I don't know how you worked out how many hours I watch? (I couldn't tell you off-hand). That is irrelevant anyway as we're talking TV operating procedure here. This is exactly the same wheather you watch one or twenty hours of TV per day/week/month.

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Of course. Never said they couldn't/shouldn't :) But let's say, for example, that you want to watch BGT. Record it and start watching delayed by, say, 15 mins. You'll miss out the ads but still be able to "take part".

That's what I meant.

I used to have to sit down when something was on; and this included sitting through ads. I haven't done that since getting my original Tivo in 2002.

It's a legacy feature that is no-longer necessary.

And it's an opinion which I share.

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You'd have to speak to the sales line on Monday (once you get your email) but AFAIK it's straight on to your bill.

I think you can make a card payment against the account though.

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Does anybody know how the iPad app is coming along?

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Ask Apple:p:

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If I get the tivo in the living room and swap the V+ box that is there for the ordinary one that is upstairs, what functionality will I lose on the V+ that will end upstairs. At the moment the V+ has the full HD package but the one upstairs hasnt.

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You will lose none of the V+ functions. What package are you on?

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You won't lose any functionality on the V+HD box, it will work the same as it does now.

Your tv packages may vary depending on what you have already though, i.e. Premium Sky HD etc.

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Must admit I'm with Sky and never use reminders , I either use record or watch it as it's on, reminders aren't needed with Wishlists as i believe they pick up your keywords automatically when entering it in a wishlist.

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I`m on the vip 50 deal

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You will be fine then as i am on the same pack and have just swapped the standard box for the TIVO box and kept the V+ BOX and all the functions are there.

p.s i would change the HD premiums to the TIVO box as that is what i did.

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Right, thanks for that

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Am I right in thinking that by doing this, your bill hasn't increased because the VIP50 package already includes a V+ box in the price?

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No the bill has stopped the same as the stated VIP50 price of £100.55.

P.S Just to add I have to say that when i won a free TIVO as I have posted earlier they said that if I stayed on the same package i would not be charged the £3pm charge. Also as DF has stated this seems to be what VM are now saying?

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Article on Iplayer , TIVO mentioned

http://informitv.com/news/2011/04/08...yerexperience/

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I think that they need to check out after the code drop as the pause,ff,rw and stop buttons work on the I-PLAYER now. Also they are trying to get the I-PLAYER back in to the catch up as posted here over on the VM TIVO community forum.

Hi all

As you know we recently launched the BBC iPlayer app on the Tivo service, with numerous advantages such as the complete catch up library, including HD, radio shows and subtitling.

This great app will develop over time and we are working with BBC to find a way to put all the new content into our catch up area, 7 days backwards grid and global search. However while we work on this integration we won't be able to offer access to iPlayer content through these other routes. Instead you can simply press the red button when watching live BBC channels or go straight to the Apps and Games area where you will find the complete iPlayer app. You can search the full BBC library through the app's built-in search functionality.

Thanks


Executive Director, Commercial, TV & Online

Removed the name for what i think is legal reasons?

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Like DF said the full player has more content , however it would be good to get it in the EPG again.

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I feel honoured LOL :D

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I believe I read around September time but not 100% sure.

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Why just not put it on the forum for all to ignore you:p::D:D:D:D:D

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Because most don't get offended by my balanced posts mate , I have no loyalty to either company and I'm still a VMTV user , who knows 12 months from now I could be a TIVO user LOL :D

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I am playing nicely:erm:

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We are mate just having a little joke with devil :D

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Did your parents tell you not to play with the Devil?

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LOL :D How are you finding your TIVO since install ?

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Thanks muppetman, all seems to have gone silent on the app front. I'm really looking forward to being able to remote record from my phone and iPad etc. Sky are really on the ball with this side of things, their iPad app is very well designed imo. :)

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Trust me mate you'll get it , the US TIVO iPad app looks great , I'm using remote record on ipad and Android and its great , from sending a remote record to arriving on my box takes about 30 seconds you'll love it.

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Why ?


Its already available in the states, just waiting for Virgin to enable it on the box here then you will be able to get it from the app store.

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Brilliant, As it it recording suggestions that I want and also things that I may not watch ( but have found to be brilliant ) and it has changed the way that I am now viewing TV. I have not used the V+ since I have had the TIVO installed:erm:

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http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/product-f...pad/index.html

Looks very impressive , wonder if the VM will have the same layout.

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I think it will except using VM coulors.



Tivo are also looking at an ipad app to stream from the tivo to watch anywhere.


Hope they do the same for Android tablets as well as I would then sale my ipad and not have 2 tablets at the same time........


Its like remotes for each device :rolleyes:

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I was wondering about that, if YouView, a system supported by the Beeb, would have the same restrictions as imposed on TiVo regarding iPlayer access.

:td:

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http://m.paidcontent.co.uk/article/4...-tv-explosion/

Interesting profiles , that would a good idea for different users.

Sorry my links to the mobile site I'm on my phone LOL .

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Another question I have is around wish lists. Let's say I ask TiVo to record all the movies or programmes by a certain director. Would it automatically record these in HD when available, or is the same story as suggestions?

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Not at the minute but I think DF said they were feeding this info back to TIVO as most customers want this.

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just take the m. out and its to the main site

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Thanks for that , easy enough :D

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That's an old articcle, which I've linked to a couple of times.

Still good stuff though! :)

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Yeah it is mate I was looking for the ipad launch , I've seen it somewhere saying a timeframe. The profile would be a first for TIVO wouldn't it , I don't think even TIVO in the US use profiles for different users.

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And if you take the f out of TiVo you'll see what you have Muppetman;)

Regards

John.

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Eh ? Am I missing something here ?

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Yes an F in TiVo:p: