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devilincarnate 18-04-2011 20:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216079)
]You, sir, are a poltroon - I do not actively revel; I comment on you actively and incessantly bitching; there is a difference. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35216082)
Whenever I think of you now Hugh I can't get past the spikey hair singing ice ice baby LOL.

Calm down please:D

Henkesghost 18-04-2011 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216079)
One of those was the VAT rise, or did that "slip your mind"?

But you do not ignore it - you (and denphone) continously post repetitive negative whinges; I do not praise where something does not deserve it, if I am unhappy I will state it, but I don't go on and on and on and on and on about the same things again and again.

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You, sir, are a poltroon - I do not actively revel; I comment on you actively and incessantly bitching; there is a difference. ;)

That's your defence? Really?? Really?

Hugh 18-04-2011 20:32

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Absolutely right, devilincarnate.

I apologise to henke for my outburst.

devilincarnate 18-04-2011 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35216091)
That's your defence? Really?? Really?

Whoa i have not seen baiting like this since the weekend when we were looking for Badgers?


Yes and that is a sick joke and sorry if I offended anyone with it :(:(:(

muppetman11 18-04-2011 20:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35216052)
There are plenty of channels Sky does not own that Virgin could get so there are no excuses really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216085)
You may need to seek professional help...;)

LOL :D you have to admit it was quite funny that :D

denphone 19-04-2011 06:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216085)
You may need to seek professional help...;)

I send the man in the invisible white suit over to you.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35216085)
You may need to seek professional help...;)

As a ex DJ myself the man with the spikey hair is called Vanilla Ice.

dazed&confused 19-04-2011 09:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35216044)
OK then what is the truth:confused:

"The Truth Is Out There"
(Plays X Files Theme tune in the background)!!
:D:D

Mobes 19-04-2011 10:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35216424)
I send the man in the invisible white suit over to you.

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As a ex DJ myself the man with the spikey hair is called Vanilla Ice.

Did you specialise in Morrisey songs?

devilincarnate 19-04-2011 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35216475)
Did you specialise in Morrisey songs?

Good one.

clinteastman 19-04-2011 10:47

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WOW, this thread has become completely useless, I'm sick and tired of "Sky did this", "Sky does this". If you want Sky go get it, if you hate Sky then make a "I hate Sky" thread, if you hate VM then why do you read cable forum?

This is the coming soon to Virgin Media thread.

muppetman11 19-04-2011 11:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35216493)
WOW, this thread has become completely useless, I'm sick and tired of "Sky did this", "Sky does this". If you want Sky go get it, if you hate Sky then make a "I hate Sky" thread, if you hate VM then why do you read cable forum?

This is the coming soon to Virgin Media thread.

To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them ;)

richard1960 19-04-2011 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35216500)
To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them ;)

Must admit muppetman11 vm are never goingt to beat sky for linear HD full stop, i think vm are looking at streamng as their new key service via TiVo if they can tie up a deal with say amazon owned lovefilm then many things vm customers cannot now get will be available to them.

Talking of coming soon the only big thing on my wish list was sky sports Red Button as new content lies behind it previously denied to us sky sports subs via vm ! and it is coming very soon.and i shall be one very happy vm sub.:):)

Mobes 19-04-2011 11:16

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I too agree but I can't stand constant moaning and people who won't give credit for the sake of it.

carlwaring 19-04-2011 11:23

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Is it possible that some (or a lot of) people don't understand the differences between the way the two systems work operate and therefore why, just because a channel is available on Satellite (notice I did not say Sky!) does not mean that it can automatically be carried - and certainly without cost and appropriate carriage agreement - by VM?

Or does everyone on here already know that? :D

richard1960 19-04-2011 11:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35216513)
Is it possible that some (or a lot of) people don't understand the differences between the way the two systems work operate and therefore why, just because a channel is available on Satellite (notice I did not say Sky!) does not mean that it can automatically be carried - and certainly without cost and appropriate carriage agreement - by VM?

Or does everyone on here already know that? :D

Yes i have some idea of how the two systems work in very different ways to provide their content,it certainly would be very expensive for vm to carry the channels another operator has especially since vm include the cost in the XL package of all but sky premium HD.

I have not really moaned about channels in general much,but the stuff i consider should be part of a sub i already pay ie a hefty £22.50 a month for sky sports and in the past being deined access to content via their red button.:mad::mad: now on the way.:)

In general though i am very happy with my vm tv services and have no complaints as such.:)

muppetman11 19-04-2011 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35216507)
Must admit muppetman11 vm are never goingt to beat sky for linear HD full stop, i think vm are looking at streamng as their new key service via TiVo if they can tie up a deal with say amazon owned lovefilm then many things vm customers cannot now get will be available to them.

Talking of coming soon the only big thing on my wish list was sky sports Red Button as new content lies behind it previously denied to us sky sports subs via vm ! and it is coming very soon.and i shall be one very happy vm sub.:):)

Agree fully mate , and the Sports red button will be a great addition.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35216508)
I too agree but I can't stand constant moaning and people who won't give credit for the sake of it.

I have credited VM on numerous occasions there TV lineup is not bad at all for £24.50.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35216513)
Is it possible that some (or a lot of) people don't understand the differences between the way the two systems work operate and therefore why, just because a channel is available on Satellite (notice I did not say Sky!) does not mean that it can automatically be carried - and certainly without cost and appropriate carriage agreement - by VM?

Or does everyone on here already know that? :D

Defo correct , VM and the Satellite company have very different offerings , VM is HD free on XL and that Sat company charge 10.25 for a broader channel range , whichever suits the individuals need. VM are never going to offer the HD channel range that sat company do under their pricing structure people need to know that and accept it , many don't want all them channels and that's why VM is a great deal for them.

devilincarnate 19-04-2011 12:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Virgin Media and Cinémoi present: Unrivalled Coverage of Cannes 2011.

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...759&highlight=

Mobes 19-04-2011 12:06

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[QUOTE=muppetman11;35216542]I have credited VM on numerous occasions there TV lineup is not bad at all for £24.50.[QUOTE]

it wasn't aimed at you ;)

clinteastman 19-04-2011 12:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35216500)
To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them ;)

I agree people blame Sky, that's the problem! VM are in the business of getting the best price for there customers just like Sky, Sky sell VM buy. If we don't get "channel A" then that's because the deal isn't sweet enough, I dont expect (or want) VM to pay over the odds just like I don't expect Sky to sell for less than it's value.

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.

LexDiamond 19-04-2011 12:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35216500)
To be fair though mate their are a certain element on here who always need to blame Sky when someone on here questions VM lack of coming channels. Rupert has many faults and I do mean many however VM not acquiring non Sky HD channels is not one of them ;)

I agree. Also further to your point, I just don't get why people think VM should follow Sky's structure and delivery. VM obviously don't want to follow Sky's separate sub for HD pricing structure so obviously VM do not intend on delivering a comprehensive HD selection.

Mobes 19-04-2011 12:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35216565)

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.



:clap::nworthy:

muppetman11 19-04-2011 12:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35216565)
I agree people blame Sky, that's the problem! VM are in the business of getting the best price for there customers just like Sky, Sky sell VM buy. If we don't get "channel A" then that's because the deal isn't sweet enough, I dont expect (or want) VM to pay over the odds just like I don't expect Sky to sell for less than it's value.

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.

Excellent post. VM arent letting their UKTV stake go on the cheap if the papers are to be believed , and let's be honest their shareholders wouldn't expect anything less. All negotiations come down to making the numbers work.

dazed&confused 19-04-2011 15:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35216565)
I agree people blame Sky, that's the problem! VM are in the business of getting the best price for there customers just like Sky, Sky sell VM buy. If we don't get "channel A" then that's because the deal isn't sweet enough, I dont expect (or want) VM to pay over the odds just like I don't expect Sky to sell for less than it's value.

If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels.

:clap::clap:

You are talking a lot of sense today

But why aren't you playing with your TIVo
:D:D:D

devilincarnate 19-04-2011 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35216719)
:clap::clap:

You are talking a lot of sense today

But why aren't you playing with your TIVo
:D:D:D

Its fallen off with him playing with it too much:D

dazed&confused 19-04-2011 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35216721)
Its fallen off with him playing with it too much:D

Mind you - looking at his Avatar, it's probably not the only thing that's fallen off
:D

clinteastman 19-04-2011 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35216719)
:clap::clap:

You are talking a lot of sense today

But why aren't you playing with your TIVo
:D:D:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35216721)
Its fallen off with him playing with it too much:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazed&confused (Post 35216734)
Mind you - looking at his Avatar, it's probably not the only thing that's fallen off
:D

I have to get work done at some point and working from home it's hard not to just sit and play with it (my TiVo that is ;)).

winkle 19-04-2011 16:17

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My EPG has shot up to 372

howardmicks 19-04-2011 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by winkle (Post 35216777)
My EPG has shot up to 372

What was it before

Media Boy UK 19-04-2011 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35216783)
What was it before

Mine want down to 371 last week (and still is).

heavyside 19-04-2011 16:40

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Apologies if it's been posted here before but VM have now assigned channel numbers to Sky Arts 1 HD and Sky Arts 2 HD. From launch next Tuesday they will be on 282 and 284 respectively. Well done, VM.

Media Boy UK 19-04-2011 16:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35216818)
Apologies if it's been posted here before but VM have now assigned channel numbers to Sky Arts 1 HD and Sky Arts 2 HD. From launch next Tuesday they will be on 282 and 284 respectively. Well done, VM.

Can you post link?

Thanks for info if true.

heavyside 19-04-2011 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35216823)
Can you post link?

Thanks for info if true.

Hi MB. Just spotted it in the latest edition of TV & Satellite Week.

denphone 19-04-2011 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35216475)
Did you specialise in Morrisey songs?

The Smiths are a legendary group what with Johney Marr on guitar.

winkle 19-04-2011 16:48

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Was 359 before DF

Media Boy UK 19-04-2011 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35216824)
Hi MB. Just spotted it in the latest edition of TV & Satellite Week.

Just look up my copy of next week Radio Times.

Sky Arts channels will be on the following Virgin Channels numbers from April 26th:

281. Sky Arts 1 (Was Channel 284)
282. Sky Arts 1 HD
283. Sky Arts 2 (Was Channel 285)
284. Sky Arts 2 HD

devilincarnate 19-04-2011 16:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35216826)
The Smiths are a legendary group what with Johney Marr on guitar.

Johnny Marr ;) What about all Morrisseys solo stuff or did he not do any after The Smiths:confused:

P.S my channels are the same as MBs at 371:confused:

Mobes 19-04-2011 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35216826)
The Smiths are a legendary group what with Johney Marr on guitar.

And the puzzle pieces keep on fitting together...

denphone 19-04-2011 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35216837)
Johnny Marr ;) What about all Morrisseys solo stuff or did he not do any after The Smiths:confused:

P.S my channels are the same as MBs at 371:confused:

Yes Morrissey did some good stuff as well.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35216859)
And the puzzle pieces keep on fitting together...

Around 2015 l think the puzzle will be finished Mobes.

jtaylor06 19-04-2011 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35216870)
Yes Morrissey did some good stuff as well.

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Around 2015 l think the puzzle will be finished Mobes.

355 here.

braysoj1 19-04-2011 18:45

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371 here in sunny w yorks v +

Dan20 19-04-2011 19:20

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Media Boy,
re === Unknown dates ===
-BBC iPlayer will offer subtitled content.

iPlayer in Tivo has subtitled content now

windy 19-04-2011 19:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
How do you see how many channels you have on Tivo.

undertakereddie 19-04-2011 23:04

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I Have Just Seen The Promo For The New Virgin Media Tivo Box and Its Wicked. It Kinda Blows Sky HD+ Out Of The Water Does'nt It Virgin Media Customers Can Upgrade. Also Some Sad News Elizabeth Sladen Who Played Sarah Jane In Dr Who Has Passed Away Today (Tuesday 19th April 2011) aged 63.

Media Boy UK 19-04-2011 23:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan20 (Post 35216998)
Media Boy,
re === Unknown dates ===
-BBC iPlayer will offer subtitled content.

iPlayer in Tivo has subtitled content now

Info was pack up from Wikipedia but I have not see any info since (Will be removed on May 1st update).

Cinemoi having Free Weekend next month.

Cinemoi is having an Free-to-Air weekend from Friday 13th May until Sunday 15th May on Virgin Channel 445.

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...759&highlight=

passingbat 19-04-2011 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35217213)
I Have Just Seen The Promo For The New Virgin Media Tivo Box and Its Wicked. It Kinda Blows Sky HD+ Out Of The Water Does'nt It .

Where did you see it?

carlwaring 19-04-2011 23:20

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I assume he means this one.

spankysmagicpian 19-04-2011 23:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35217213)
Also Some Sad News Elizabeth Sladen Who Played Sarah Jane In Dr Who Has Passed Away Today (Tuesday 19th April 2011) aged 63.

:shocked::cry:

carlwaring 19-04-2011 23:27

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It is - unfortunately - true. She is being mourned here. Story here.

OLDGOLD 19-04-2011 23:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35216826)
The Smiths are a legendary group what with Johney Marr on guitar.

Johnny Marr spent a couple of years with The Cribs didn't he. Their last album (Ignore the Ignorant) was with Johnny Marr, a bostin album it was too. But it was announced last week that he's left the band now... If anyone's interested? :shrug:

I think I've gone a bit off-topic. Oops..:blush:

ken1234 20-04-2011 01:04

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the red button was on my boxs today testing it out i think on sky sport 1 about 2.15 this afternoon

muppetman11 20-04-2011 10:32

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What could this mean for Formula 1 Fans

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-talks-murdoch

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VM on Sky Atlantic


Virgin Media said there had been 22% year-on-year growth in the first quarter of the number of customers taking its Sky premium suite of channels, taking the total to about 800,000. O'Hare added that Virgin was no closer to securing a deal to air Sky Atlantic on its service.

"It is not a must have and it is not a must not have," he said. "It is not something sitting on our immediate priority board."

zantarous 20-04-2011 10:40

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Well he would say that he is not exactly going to tell the competition anything else.

richard1960 20-04-2011 11:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. II.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217412)
What could this mean for Formula 1 Fans

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-talks-murdoch

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VM on Sky Atlantic


Virgin Media said there had been 22% year-on-year growth in the first quarter of the number of customers taking its Sky premium suite of channels, taking the total to about 800,000. O'Hare added that Virgin was no closer to securing a deal to air Sky Atlantic on its service.

"It is not a must have and it is not a must not have," he said. "It is not something sitting on our immediate priority board."

The current rights holder for formula one Bernie Eccleston has always said he took less money for the rights to have a bigger audience on terrestrial tv i suppose as advertising revenue in the sport is high having a big global tv audience helps,but if he sells up well we may see formula one on sky sports sometime in the future due to the sheer size of skys cash pile.

Interesting link though.

On the sky atlantic issue well it will not come to vm until they get the right deal, although anything i really want to see there are other means! or just buy the box set from amazon and cut out the middleman (tv channel):)

Arthurgray50@blu 20-04-2011 11:13

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This is what angers me about VM, it has already been stated on DS that Sky offered Atlantic at a reasonable price, but VM said it was expensive.

VM cannot expect to get channels on the cheap, at the end of the day, we are the paying customers and will pay at the end of the day, Companies are in business to make money, so therefore if VM want to be a force in the Tv industry, which is what VM then they have to provide what the customer wants.

howardmicks 20-04-2011 11:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217412)
What could this mean for Formula 1 Fans

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-talks-murdoch

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VM on Sky Atlantic


Virgin Media said there had been 22% year-on-year growth in the first quarter of the number of customers taking its Sky premium suite of channels, taking the total to about 800,000. O'Hare added that Virgin was no closer to securing a deal to air Sky Atlantic on its service.

"It is not a must have and it is not a must not have," he said. "It is not something sitting on our immediate priority board."

With lack of new channels for 9 months it looks like there no closer to securing any deal for new channels let alone sky atlantic,All they seem to be securing is chargeable content at the moment.Looks like coming soon is going to continue:(

clinteastman 20-04-2011 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35217525)
This is what angers me about VM, it has already been stated on DS that Sky offered Atlantic at a reasonable price, but VM said it was expensive.

VM cannot expect to get channels on the cheap, at the end of the day, we are the paying customers and will pay at the end of the day, Companies are in business to make money, so therefore if VM want to be a force in the Tv industry, which is what VM then they have to provide what the customer wants.

I pay at the end of the month.

muppetman11 20-04-2011 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35217519)
The current rights holder for formula one Bernie Eccleston has always said he took less money for the rights to have a bigger audience on terrestrial tv i suppose as advertising revenue in the sport is high having a big global tv audience helps,but if he sells up well we may see formula one on sky sports sometime in the future due to the sheer size of skys cash pile.

Interesting link though.

On the sky atlantic issue well it will not come to vm until they get the right deal, although anything i really want to see there are other means! or just buy the box set from amazon and cut out the middleman (tv channel):)

Agree with all that , to be honest as a Sky subscriber I haven't watched that much on Atlantic HD up until now I've series linked Game of Thrones and The Pacific (which I believe was on Sky Movies already ) however I didn't catch it then.

howardmicks 20-04-2011 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35217525)
This is what angers me about VM, it has already been stated on DS that Sky offered Atlantic at a reasonable price, but VM said it was expensive.

VM cannot expect to get channels on the cheap, at the end of the day, we are the paying customers and will pay at the end of the day, Companies are in business to make money, so therefore if VM want to be a force in the Tv industry, which is what VM then they have to provide what the customer wants.

When people get fed up of waiting for new channels and move back to sky they might do something about it,But until that happens it looks like we are getting nowt :(

richard1960 20-04-2011 11:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35217525)
This is what angers me about VM, it has already been stated on DS that Sky offered Atlantic at a reasonable price, but VM said it was expensive.

VM cannot expect to get channels on the cheap, at the end of the day, we are the paying customers and will pay at the end of the day, Companies are in business to make money, so therefore if VM want to be a force in the Tv industry, which is what VM then they have to provide what the customer wants.

Arthur it may well have been stated on a public forum that sky atlantic was offered to vm at a reasonable price,but neither of us has seen the exact deatils of that (reasonable price) or i doubt any forum member ,so that is just speculation.

The customer may say they want sky atlantic on vm but not at any price,subs would soon moan if vm paid silly money for channels and their subs rocketed to pay the bill for being so reckless.;)

Perfect Choice 20-04-2011 11:18

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So you really think Sky offered it at a "reasonable price", hardly likely.

It may well come in time or the key programmes will be viewed on other channels over time (6 to 12 months plus I would say) If you want first view, then Sky has always been best for that on leading series/films e.g. Broadwalk Empire.

muppetman11 20-04-2011 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35217535)
So you really think Sky offered it at a "reasonable price", hardly likely.

It may well come in time or the key programmes will be viewed on other channels over time (6 to 12 months plus I would say) If you want first view, then Sky has always been best for that on leading series/films e.g. Broadwalk Empire.

It's always the case the companies will be adrift on price Sky are probably overvaluing it and VM offer undervalues it . Clinteastman said yesterday VM want the best price for their customers and Sky want to sell at a price beneficial to them after all shareholders wouldn't be to happy if they sold everything on the cheap.

Perfect Choice 20-04-2011 11:31

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Agreed, both parties will agree what "reasonable" is in the end, it will take time on Atlantic though since Sky have promoted it so strongly as a "premier like" basic channel. Not in a rush myself to see but must admit I would have liked to have seen the Pacific which is the first programme on Atlantic I've been interested in (don't have Sky movies where it was first shown). Perhaps if I wait another year, it will repeat again on Sky One say or a deal may be done. Programmes are repeated so often these days (especially as day time padding) you get the chance to see them eventually if you are patient.

richard1960 20-04-2011 11:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217541)
It's always the case the companies will be adrift on price Sky are probably overvaluing it and VM offer undervalues it . Clinteastman said yesterday VM want the best price for their customers and Sky want to sell at a price beneficial to them after all shareholders wouldn't be to happy if they sold everything on the cheap.

Thats the bottom line mate,although i doubt sky will lower their asking price until a reasonable exclusivity period has passed its just not in skys interest to sell to vm at this time,(looking at it from skys perspective)

Interestingly i have read on a different tack that BT have done a deal with ofcom to sell infinity (allowing faster broadband via a phone line) to suppliers like sky but sky in this case do not want to pay a lot for this,so its not alawys vm that wants lower pricing sky are at it too.;)

windy 20-04-2011 11:39

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Everybody want lower pricing in an ideal world but this isn't an ideal world unfortunately :)

muppetman11 20-04-2011 11:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35217548)
Thats the bottom line mate,although i doubt sky will lower their asking price until a reasonable exclusivity period has passed its just not in skys interest to sell to vm at this time,(looking at it from skys perspective)

Interestingly i have read on a different tack that BT have done a deal with ofcom to sell infinity (allowing faster broadband via a phone line) to suppliers like sky but sky in this case do not want to pay a lot for this,so its not alawys vm that wants lower pricing sky are at it too.;)

You are 100% correct I wasn't saying VM are cheapskates , I agree pricing for customers is very important , as for Sky using BT's Fibre product this is much the same, they want to offer cheap BB products to their customers and I believe there are a few other companies complaining to ofcom ,Talk Talk being one of them.

howardmicks 20-04-2011 11:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35217535)
So you really think Sky offered it at a "reasonable price", hardly likely.

It may well come in time or the key programmes will be viewed on other channels over time (6 to 12 months plus I would say) If you want first view, then Sky has always been best for that on leading series/films e.g. Broadwalk Empire.

Probably not at what vm call reasonable,But what is there excuse for other hd/sd channels (Universal,Disney,ITV,CBS amongst a few )9 months and all we are seeing is sky arts and red button which were all agreed last year in the sale of there channels.I voiced concerns with ceo`s office several months ago when they sold there channels to sky and they assured me that new channels were coming 6 months later where are they ?

Perfect Choice 20-04-2011 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35217557)
Probably not at what vm call reasonable,But what is there excuse for other hd/sd channels (Universal,Disney,ITV,CBS amongst a few )9 months and all we are seeing is sky arts and red button which were all agreed last year in the sale of there channels.I voiced concerns with ceo`s office several months ago when they sold there channels to sky and they assured me that new channels were coming 6 months later where are they ?

Agreed, while we talk on new channels like Sky Atlantic, there are several gaps in Vms portfolio which really should not be contentious, especially HD channels of existing SD channels. Even something like ITV2/3/4 HD are not with VM yet, surely that is not a big hurdle to address and HD on ITV2 could actually be useful.

Personally I think VM have been doing a great deal of work on the network last year ready for products like Tivo and want to get that out of the way before adding channels. We shall see but the next 3 to 6 months should really result in 6 to 10 new channels just to expand the HD list, if not then I will be dissapointed with VM.

richard1960 20-04-2011 11:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217553)
You are 100% correct I wasn't saying VM are cheapskates , I agree pricing for customers is very important , as for Sky using BT's Fibre product this is much the same, they want to offer cheap BB products to their customers and I believe there are a few other companies complaining to ofcom ,Talk Talk being one of them.

Everybody wants lower prices mate thats the bottom line vm do not want to have to pay more then is necessary for tv channels on the platform ,sky talk talk ect ect want cheaper access to BTS lines for their cut price broadband.

Perhaps we need a regulator offering independant binding arbitration.LOL.:D:D

Am off now to enjoy the good weather on my day off instead of sitting around watching tv.:D

howardmicks 20-04-2011 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35217564)
Agreed, while we talk on new channels like Sky Atlantic, there are several gaps in Vms portfolio which really should not be contentious, especially HD channels of existing SD channels. Even something like ITV2/3/4 HD are not with VM yet, surely that is not a big hurdle to address and HD on ITV2 could actually be useful.

Personally I think VM have been doing a great deal of work on the network last year ready for products like Tivo and want to get that out of the way before adding channels. We shall see but the next 3 to 6 months should really result in 6 to 10 new channels just to expand the HD list, if not then I will be dissapointed with VM.

You and everyone else matey:)

muppetman11 20-04-2011 12:00

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Another point worth noting is that a fair few channels added over the last 18 months have been channels available on M+ like C5 HD , Film Four HD , ITV1 HD , BBC1 HD.

Mobes 20-04-2011 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35217525)
This is what angers me about VM, it has already been stated on DS that Sky offered Atlantic at a reasonable price, but VM said it was expensive.
.

Oh right. And who said it was reasonable? Wouldn't have been Sky would it? How do you know how much it was, how much was "reasonable"?

The fact is we dont know how much Sky decided to offer it for but I'm betting it absolutly wasn't reasonable. Sky, from the very beginning, advertised this as SKY EXCLUSIVE. There was no way they were going to let VM get there hands on it for a while so I would imagine "reasonable" was a ridiculous amount just so Sky could have it both ways. 1) Making sure it stayed exclusive and 2) They could say "well we did offer it to VM and they turned it down".

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35217557)
Probably not at what vm call reasonable,But what is there excuse for other hd/sd channels (Universal,Disney,ITV,CBS amongst a few )9 months and all we are seeing is sky arts and red button which were all agreed last year in the sale of there channels.I voiced concerns with ceo`s office several months ago when they sold there channels to sky and they assured me that new channels were coming 6 months later where are they ?

Me personally, it was important VM pulles there finger out over "FTA" HD, i.e Channel 5, ITV1, CHannel4HD an they've done that at long last.

But as far as the rest go I would rather wait and VM get the best deal than have to pay extra for them.

Lets not forget VM went to court in order to secure SKy Movies and some Sports HD as they were the channels VM viewers wanted the most. Sky red Button coming, Sky Art HD coming, Film4 HD exclusive...

It;s not as simple as "Oh that channel has started we'd better get it, here's a couple of million" VM are NOT in that position financially.

howardmicks 20-04-2011 12:56

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tv take up went up when vm finally listenened to there customers and obtained a number of HD Channels,Now no new channels since.New figures show tv take up down by 70 %.Think the figures speak for thereselves,Tivo aint gonna do it alone and vm dont do something about it they will drop more.Demand,3d and tivo is not gonna keep people content is the key and i cant believe we are now having to start reminding them of this again.

Lew 20-04-2011 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35217525)
This is what angers me about VM, it has already been stated on DS that Sky offered Atlantic at a reasonable price, but VM said it was expensive.

Really? Stated by whom? By a VM employee? A Sky employee? Some random internet poster?

If it's available for "a reasonable price" then what channel number is it on on BT Vision? TalkTalk TV? Top Up TV? UPC Ireland?

Sky can waffle all they want about how they're willing to let other providers carry the channel but it's plainly obvious that they want to keep it exclusive until it moves to one of their pay-TV packages.

And for what it's worth, while I wouldn't complain if VM were to eventually carry Atlantic, I've looked at the schedule and the only thing on there that interests me is Star Trek and I've seen all of them many times over so I can wait.

Cozzy 20-04-2011 13:03

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As Ive said a few times ... TiVo is only ever going to be as good as the content available on it ... yes it has a fancy GUI and maybe more responsive and quicker but at the end of the day it doesnt provide anything new in the way of content (apart from youtube online stuff etc) than the current V+ boxes.

TiVo needs content just like the V+ the only advantage is that TiVo may at some unknown future date have some form of extra subscription content like Lovefilm or Blockbusters but until the extras arrive the VMTV network as a whole needs to keep refreshing its content both from Sky and other providers.

I will wholheartldy agree that this needs to be done sensibly and at sensible costs but it does need to be done and quicker than what they are doing currently.

clinteastman 20-04-2011 13:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35217613)
tv take up went up when vm finally listenened to there customers and obtained a number of HD Channels,Now no new channels since.New figures show tv take up down by 70 %.Think the figures speak for thereselves,Tivo aint gonna do it alone and vm dont do something about it they will drop more.Demand,3d and tivo is not gonna keep people content is the key and i cant believe we are now having to start reminding them of this again.

Lets come back to this when the new customer figures come back for this quater and see how that theory pans out, my guess is they maybe up slightly. ;)

---------- Post added at 12:09 ---------- Previous post was at 12:04 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzy (Post 35217621)
As Ive said a few times ... TiVo is only ever going to be as good as the content available on it ... yes it has a fancy GUI and maybe more responsive and quicker but at the end of the day it doesnt provide anything new in the way of content (apart from youtube online stuff etc) than the current V+ boxes.

TiVo needs content just like the V+ the only advantage is that TiVo may at some unknown future date have some form of extra subscription content like Lovefilm or Blockbusters but until the extras arrive the VMTV network as a whole needs to keep refreshing its content both from Sky and other providers.

I will wholheartldy agree that this needs to be done sensibly and at sensible costs but it does need to be done and quicker than what they are doing currently.

Cozzy didn't you just get through saying you wont talk about TiVo anymore?
We know, you don't want one, that's fine you don't have to get one.

Also there is new content on TiVo, it gets the full iPlayer content instead of the reduced (about 1/3rd?) content on the V boxes.

howardmicks 20-04-2011 13:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35217623)
Lets come back to this when the new customer figures come back for this quater and see how that theory pans out, my guess is they maybe up slightly. ;)

---------- Post added at 12:09 ---------- Previous post was at 12:04 ----------


Cozzy didn't you just get through saying you wont talk about TiVo anymore?
We know, you don't want one, that's fine you don't have to get one.

Also there is new content on TiVo, it gets the full iPlayer content instead of the reduced (about 1/3rd?) content on the V boxes.

They are bound to be up this quarter because of tivo,But clearly that will drop if new content/channels are not aquired.Surely they want customers long time rather than short and new content is needed to keep them hence the drop in figures released today

Cozzy 20-04-2011 13:31

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Sorry cant talk about whats not comming soon and not mention content and tivo ... I did say I wont take part in the tivo thread and i wont but I will have my say in other threads.

The full iPlayer is hardly new content ... its available eleswhere ..in fact i could argue that the youtube app is actually a cut down version of the real youtube but i chose not too ... I was just stateing that the whole network needs fresh content and revised content much more regularly than VM have shown willing to do so far , doesnt matter wether its tivo or V+ it needs to be progressively renewed/refreshed or added to or it stagnates and loses customers and revenue.

the full iPlayer is never going to be enough and IMHO cant be classed as new content if its available via many other ways that dont even require a TV... i can even get the iplayer on a media box so its hardly groundbreaking for VM.

clinteastman 20-04-2011 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35217638)
They are bound to be up this quarter because of tivo,But clearly that will drop if new content/channels are not aquired.Surely they want customers long time rather than short and new content is needed to keep them hence the drop in figures released today

I really don't think most customers are like us lot on here that are all about content, my guess is things like price, reliability and the real big one internet speed are te most important.

---------- Post added at 12:37 ---------- Previous post was at 12:32 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzy (Post 35217643)
Sorry cant talk about whats not comming soon and not mention content and tivo ... I did say I wont take part in the tivo thread and i wont but I will have my say in other threads.

The full iPlayer is hardly new content ... its available eleswhere ..in fact i could argue that the youtube app is actually a cut down version of the real youtube but i chose not too ... I was just stateing that the whole network needs fresh content and revised content much more regularly than VM have shown willing to do so far , doesnt matter wether its tivo or V+ it needs to be progressively renewed/refreshed or added to or it stagnates and loses customers and revenue.

the full iPlayer is never going to be enough and IMHO cant be classed as new content if its available via many other ways that dont even require a TV... i can even get the iplayer on a media box so its hardly groundbreaking for VM.

It's new content to the VM platform, when you say new do you mean exclusive?

PS. I was pulling your leg about the not talking about TiVo but forgot the ;)! :)

Cozzy 20-04-2011 13:55

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Technically iPlayer is not new to the platform ... as its been available for months using VM BB .. :p:

no i didnt mean exclusive just that its available through VM by other means therefore not new to VM and partially available through STB much like the youtube content is partially available on the Tivo but wholly available through BB on VM.

While I dont expect a great exodus away from VMTV there will be a drip leak away which could grow as all leaks do if not fixed. Many people will fall for Skys blurb about having more channels and cheaper and in HD with free BB and all that jazz wether its true or not. Its a matter of how people perceve and interpret the fact Sky have XYZ channels @ £100 to VMs YZ for the same money and Sky throw in free BB where VM charge uber£'s for the same thing.

I dont think average Joe Blogs looks at BB reliability because if they did Talk Talk wouldnt exist , but the fact people get cheap calls and free/cheap BB from Talk Talk means its one of the biggest and I think average Joe Blogs approaches subscription TV in a similar fashion ... its what you get for your £ and freebies that turns Joe Blogs head.

All of course IMO and loads will disagree ... now crossing fingers that all made sense as it did when i typed it :shocked:

clinteastman 20-04-2011 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cozzy (Post 35217671)
Technically iPlayer is not new to the platform ... as its been available for months using VM BB .. :p:

no i didnt mean exclusive just that its available through VM by other means therefore not new to VM and partially available through STB much like the youtube content is partially available on the Tivo but wholly available through BB on VM.

While I dont expect a great exodus away from VMTV there will be a drip leak away which could grow as all leaks do if not fixed. Many people will fall for Skys blurb about having more channels and cheaper and in HD with free BB and all that jazz wether its true or not. Its a matter of how people perceve and interpret the fact Sky have XYZ channels @ £100 to VMs YZ for the same money and Sky throw in free BB where VM charge uber£'s for the same thing.

I dont think average Joe Blogs looks at BB reliability because if they did Talk Talk wouldnt exist , but the fact people get cheap calls and free/cheap BB from Talk Talk means its one of the biggest and I think average Joe Blogs approaches subscription TV in a similar fashion ... its what you get for your £ and freebies that turns Joe Blogs head.

All of course IMO and loads will disagree ... now crossing fingers that all made sense as it did when i typed it :shocked:

Some good points there Cozzy.

Perfect Choice 20-04-2011 14:30

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iPlayer is new in so far the general house hold does not have its BB connected to their main TV to view larger content of iPlayer via the Internet. So shall we say a new more convenient access to existing content which otherwise would be on your PC.

As I previously stated, VM need to make sure the gap between them and Sky is not too great, they will never match but the only thing I am concerned about is access to high value and popular TV content.

Sky may have the most channels but are those channels missing from VM of high enough value to be of importance to the general public to decide their supplier? In some cases yes, some people want every HD channel possible, some want specific specialist channels, etc. VM is not the platform for all.

VM strategy needs to be based on the launch of additional HD channels for which an additional 6 to 10 are fairly obvious gaps to address to make sure VM is not starting to look to far behind Sky on HD. So far we have 2 to come (Sky Arts 1 and 2 HD).

But what could set things going is the use of HD streaming of content via the Tivo Internet port if this can be used to get around traditional TV exclusivity agreements for content.

Personally I also find VM very cost effective, certainly cheaper than Sky for me, I don’t subscribe to Sky Sport/Movies by the way, so a base TV package is very cost effective for me with no extra £10 HD surcharge, etc.

Sharpy55 20-04-2011 14:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35217616)
Really? Stated by whom? By a VM employee? A Sky employee? Some random internet poster?

If it's available for "a reasonable price" then what channel number is it on on BT Vision? TalkTalk TV? Top Up TV? UPC Ireland?

Sky can waffle all they want about how they're willing to let other providers carry the channel but it's plainly obvious that they want to keep it exclusive until it moves to one of their pay-TV packages.

And for what it's worth, while I wouldn't complain if VM were to eventually carry Atlantic, I've looked at the schedule and the only thing on there that interests me is Star Trek and I've seen all of them many times over so I can wait.

Totally agree! I don't know what the fuss is over Sky Atlantic!

passingbat 20-04-2011 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpy55 (Post 35217713)
Totally agree! I don't know what the fuss is over Sky Atlantic!

Award winning shows?

muppetman11 20-04-2011 14:48

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Months down the line , a lack of sub free PVR on VM could be a wrong decision when V+ is no longer offered to new customers . A brand new customer wanting Sky movies and sports with Sky premium HD would have to pay 3.00 a month for a PVR and 7.00 a month Sky Premium HD , effectively the same as Skys HD charge for less content.

clinteastman 20-04-2011 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35217732)
Award winning shows?

If your not interested in them than all the awards in the world won't change that, but I get your point.

devilincarnate 20-04-2011 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35217734)
If your not interested in them than all the awards in the world won't change that, but I get your point.

Well said I have the same thoughts:D

undertakereddie 20-04-2011 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35217233)
I assume he means this one.

Yes Thats Correct

howardmicks 20-04-2011 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217733)
Months down the line , a lack of sub free PVR on VM could be a wrong decision when V+ is no longer offered to new customers . A brand new customer wanting Sky movies and sports with Sky premium HD would have to pay 3.00 a month for a PVR and 7.00 a month Sky Premium HD , effectively the same as Skys HD charge for less content.

Bang on matey:)

carlwaring 20-04-2011 15:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35217732)
Award winning shows?

Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35217734)
If your not interested in them than all the awards in the world won't change that, but I get your point.

Yes. I was just about to post something similar.
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217733)
..effectively the same as Skys HD charge for less content.

Except that Sky don't have the Tivo ;)

muppetman11 20-04-2011 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35217754)
Doesn't mean much if your or i don't like them :)

Correct Carl you and a few others may not like them , but your hardly the majority are you.

devilincarnate 20-04-2011 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217756)
Correct Carl you and a few others may not like them , but your hardly the majority are you.

i want to be the minority
i dont need your authority
down with the moral majority
'cause i want to be the minority

Care of Green Day:p:

carlwaring 20-04-2011 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217756)
Correct Carl you and a few others may not like them , but your hardly the majority are you.

Never said that I was. That was merely my own opinion.

I never listen to 'critics'. I always make my own mind up.

howardmicks 20-04-2011 15:09

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Tivo is awsome and i prefer giving my money to vm than sky but if they cant get the shows/Channels i want then i need to go elsewhere unfortunetly thats sky,I have friends who are currently on sky and are impressed with tivo but the sticking poin tis channnels and they are not alone.I currently have both so i can give a honest opinon,Phone,BB and best dvr is vm now with tivo,But for content(channels) sky is light years ahead and even thou vm can not/will not compete with them for that(and i dont blame them)there are still channels they can obtain.My fear that vmtv is gonna become like bt`s poor offering if they are not carefull

muppetman11 20-04-2011 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35217754)
Yes. I was just about to post something similar.

Except that Sky don't have the Tivo ;)

They also don't have a PVR tax :rolleyes:

KathG 20-04-2011 15:17

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Its on it way, just stuck in trafic :)

jtaylor06 20-04-2011 15:27

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I'm probably a bit late with this, but the video on the Tivo site has changed.
It seems to cover a few more features such as mobile recording.
:)

Perfect Choice 20-04-2011 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35217762)
Tivo is awsome and i prefer giving my money to vm than sky but if they cant get the shows/Channels i want then i need to go elsewhere unfortunetly thats sky,I have friends who are currently on sky and are impressed with tivo but the sticking poin tis channnels and they are not alone.I currently have both so i can give a honest opinon,Phone,BB and best dvr is vm now with tivo,But for content(channels) sky is light years ahead and even thou vm can not/will not compete with them for that(and i dont blame them)there are still channels they can obtain.My fear that vmtv is gonna become like bt`s poor offering if they are not carefull

Can you highlight which channels on Sky you think are a key advantage over those available on VM. Clearly ones VM do not have but just interested in which ones you feel make that difference to go to Sky?

pauldavies83 20-04-2011 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35217761)
Never said that I was. That was merely my own opinion.

I never listen to 'critics'. I always make my own mind up.

So how will you make your own mind up on Sky Atlantic's first run shows, when you can't watch them via your TiVo?

Hugh 20-04-2011 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35217756)
Correct Carl you and a few others may not like them , but your hardly the majority are you.

Do you have any stats to prove who "the majority" are?;)

---------- Post added at 14:33 ---------- Previous post was at 14:33 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldavies83 (Post 35217788)
So how will you make your own mind up on Sky Atlantic's first run shows, when you can't watch them via your TiVo?

"Other options" are available...

Also, if the viewing figures on these first run shows are lower than an ITV3 repeat or a CBeebies show, that may be an indicator.

(Boardwalk Empire - 772k, Bluebloods - 517k; Doc Martin 823k & Charlie and Lola 539k)

carlwaring 20-04-2011 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldavies83 (Post 35217788)
So how will you make your own mind up on Sky Atlantic's first run shows, when you can't watch them via your TiVo?

Because I know the kind of shows that HBO have and, from what I have seen of them previously, they don't interest me at all.


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