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Absolutely right, devilincarnate.
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Yes and that is a sick joke and sorry if I offended anyone with it :(:(:( |
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(Plays X Files Theme tune in the background)!! :D:D |
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WOW, this thread has become completely useless, I'm sick and tired of "Sky did this", "Sky does this". If you want Sky go get it, if you hate Sky then make a "I hate Sky" thread, if you hate VM then why do you read cable forum?
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Talking of coming soon the only big thing on my wish list was sky sports Red Button as new content lies behind it previously denied to us sky sports subs via vm ! and it is coming very soon.and i shall be one very happy vm sub.:):) |
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I too agree but I can't stand constant moaning and people who won't give credit for the sake of it.
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Is it possible that some (or a lot of) people don't understand the differences between the way the two systems work operate and therefore why, just because a channel is available on Satellite (notice I did not say Sky!) does not mean that it can automatically be carried - and certainly without cost and appropriate carriage agreement - by VM?
Or does everyone on here already know that? :D |
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I have not really moaned about channels in general much,but the stuff i consider should be part of a sub i already pay ie a hefty £22.50 a month for sky sports and in the past being deined access to content via their red button.:mad::mad: now on the way.:) In general though i am very happy with my vm tv services and have no complaints as such.:) |
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Virgin Media and Cinémoi present: Unrivalled Coverage of Cannes 2011.
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[QUOTE=muppetman11;35216542]I have credited VM on numerous occasions there TV lineup is not bad at all for £24.50.[QUOTE]
it wasn't aimed at you ;) |
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If VM had it's way we would have every channel available, they are not sitting there working out ways of stopping us getting channels. |
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You are talking a lot of sense today But why aren't you playing with your TIVo :D:D:D |
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My EPG has shot up to 372
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Apologies if it's been posted here before but VM have now assigned channel numbers to Sky Arts 1 HD and Sky Arts 2 HD. From launch next Tuesday they will be on 282 and 284 respectively. Well done, VM.
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Thanks for info if true. |
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Was 359 before DF
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Sky Arts channels will be on the following Virgin Channels numbers from April 26th: 281. Sky Arts 1 (Was Channel 284) 282. Sky Arts 1 HD 283. Sky Arts 2 (Was Channel 285) 284. Sky Arts 2 HD |
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P.S my channels are the same as MBs at 371:confused: |
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371 here in sunny w yorks v +
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Media Boy,
re === Unknown dates === -BBC iPlayer will offer subtitled content. iPlayer in Tivo has subtitled content now |
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How do you see how many channels you have on Tivo.
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I Have Just Seen The Promo For The New Virgin Media Tivo Box and Its Wicked. It Kinda Blows Sky HD+ Out Of The Water Does'nt It Virgin Media Customers Can Upgrade. Also Some Sad News Elizabeth Sladen Who Played Sarah Jane In Dr Who Has Passed Away Today (Tuesday 19th April 2011) aged 63.
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Cinemoi having Free Weekend next month. Cinemoi is having an Free-to-Air weekend from Friday 13th May until Sunday 15th May on Virgin Channel 445. http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...759&highlight= |
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I assume he means this one.
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I think I've gone a bit off-topic. Oops..:blush: |
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the red button was on my boxs today testing it out i think on sky sport 1 about 2.15 this afternoon
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What could this mean for Formula 1 Fans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-talks-murdoch ---------- Post added at 09:32 ---------- Previous post was at 08:58 ---------- VM on Sky Atlantic Virgin Media said there had been 22% year-on-year growth in the first quarter of the number of customers taking its Sky premium suite of channels, taking the total to about 800,000. O'Hare added that Virgin was no closer to securing a deal to air Sky Atlantic on its service. "It is not a must have and it is not a must not have," he said. "It is not something sitting on our immediate priority board." |
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Well he would say that he is not exactly going to tell the competition anything else.
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Interesting link though. On the sky atlantic issue well it will not come to vm until they get the right deal, although anything i really want to see there are other means! or just buy the box set from amazon and cut out the middleman (tv channel):) |
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This is what angers me about VM, it has already been stated on DS that Sky offered Atlantic at a reasonable price, but VM said it was expensive.
VM cannot expect to get channels on the cheap, at the end of the day, we are the paying customers and will pay at the end of the day, Companies are in business to make money, so therefore if VM want to be a force in the Tv industry, which is what VM then they have to provide what the customer wants. |
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The customer may say they want sky atlantic on vm but not at any price,subs would soon moan if vm paid silly money for channels and their subs rocketed to pay the bill for being so reckless.;) |
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So you really think Sky offered it at a "reasonable price", hardly likely.
It may well come in time or the key programmes will be viewed on other channels over time (6 to 12 months plus I would say) If you want first view, then Sky has always been best for that on leading series/films e.g. Broadwalk Empire. |
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Agreed, both parties will agree what "reasonable" is in the end, it will take time on Atlantic though since Sky have promoted it so strongly as a "premier like" basic channel. Not in a rush myself to see but must admit I would have liked to have seen the Pacific which is the first programme on Atlantic I've been interested in (don't have Sky movies where it was first shown). Perhaps if I wait another year, it will repeat again on Sky One say or a deal may be done. Programmes are repeated so often these days (especially as day time padding) you get the chance to see them eventually if you are patient.
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Interestingly i have read on a different tack that BT have done a deal with ofcom to sell infinity (allowing faster broadband via a phone line) to suppliers like sky but sky in this case do not want to pay a lot for this,so its not alawys vm that wants lower pricing sky are at it too.;) |
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Everybody want lower pricing in an ideal world but this isn't an ideal world unfortunately :)
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Personally I think VM have been doing a great deal of work on the network last year ready for products like Tivo and want to get that out of the way before adding channels. We shall see but the next 3 to 6 months should really result in 6 to 10 new channels just to expand the HD list, if not then I will be dissapointed with VM. |
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Perhaps we need a regulator offering independant binding arbitration.LOL.:D:D Am off now to enjoy the good weather on my day off instead of sitting around watching tv.:D |
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Another point worth noting is that a fair few channels added over the last 18 months have been channels available on M+ like C5 HD , Film Four HD , ITV1 HD , BBC1 HD.
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The fact is we dont know how much Sky decided to offer it for but I'm betting it absolutly wasn't reasonable. Sky, from the very beginning, advertised this as SKY EXCLUSIVE. There was no way they were going to let VM get there hands on it for a while so I would imagine "reasonable" was a ridiculous amount just so Sky could have it both ways. 1) Making sure it stayed exclusive and 2) They could say "well we did offer it to VM and they turned it down". ---------- Post added at 11:29 ---------- Previous post was at 11:24 ---------- Quote:
But as far as the rest go I would rather wait and VM get the best deal than have to pay extra for them. Lets not forget VM went to court in order to secure SKy Movies and some Sports HD as they were the channels VM viewers wanted the most. Sky red Button coming, Sky Art HD coming, Film4 HD exclusive... It;s not as simple as "Oh that channel has started we'd better get it, here's a couple of million" VM are NOT in that position financially. |
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tv take up went up when vm finally listenened to there customers and obtained a number of HD Channels,Now no new channels since.New figures show tv take up down by 70 %.Think the figures speak for thereselves,Tivo aint gonna do it alone and vm dont do something about it they will drop more.Demand,3d and tivo is not gonna keep people content is the key and i cant believe we are now having to start reminding them of this again.
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If it's available for "a reasonable price" then what channel number is it on on BT Vision? TalkTalk TV? Top Up TV? UPC Ireland? Sky can waffle all they want about how they're willing to let other providers carry the channel but it's plainly obvious that they want to keep it exclusive until it moves to one of their pay-TV packages. And for what it's worth, while I wouldn't complain if VM were to eventually carry Atlantic, I've looked at the schedule and the only thing on there that interests me is Star Trek and I've seen all of them many times over so I can wait. |
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As Ive said a few times ... TiVo is only ever going to be as good as the content available on it ... yes it has a fancy GUI and maybe more responsive and quicker but at the end of the day it doesnt provide anything new in the way of content (apart from youtube online stuff etc) than the current V+ boxes.
TiVo needs content just like the V+ the only advantage is that TiVo may at some unknown future date have some form of extra subscription content like Lovefilm or Blockbusters but until the extras arrive the VMTV network as a whole needs to keep refreshing its content both from Sky and other providers. I will wholheartldy agree that this needs to be done sensibly and at sensible costs but it does need to be done and quicker than what they are doing currently. |
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We know, you don't want one, that's fine you don't have to get one. Also there is new content on TiVo, it gets the full iPlayer content instead of the reduced (about 1/3rd?) content on the V boxes. |
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Sorry cant talk about whats not comming soon and not mention content and tivo ... I did say I wont take part in the tivo thread and i wont but I will have my say in other threads.
The full iPlayer is hardly new content ... its available eleswhere ..in fact i could argue that the youtube app is actually a cut down version of the real youtube but i chose not too ... I was just stateing that the whole network needs fresh content and revised content much more regularly than VM have shown willing to do so far , doesnt matter wether its tivo or V+ it needs to be progressively renewed/refreshed or added to or it stagnates and loses customers and revenue. the full iPlayer is never going to be enough and IMHO cant be classed as new content if its available via many other ways that dont even require a TV... i can even get the iplayer on a media box so its hardly groundbreaking for VM. |
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PS. I was pulling your leg about the not talking about TiVo but forgot the ;)! :) |
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Technically iPlayer is not new to the platform ... as its been available for months using VM BB .. :p:
no i didnt mean exclusive just that its available through VM by other means therefore not new to VM and partially available through STB much like the youtube content is partially available on the Tivo but wholly available through BB on VM. While I dont expect a great exodus away from VMTV there will be a drip leak away which could grow as all leaks do if not fixed. Many people will fall for Skys blurb about having more channels and cheaper and in HD with free BB and all that jazz wether its true or not. Its a matter of how people perceve and interpret the fact Sky have XYZ channels @ £100 to VMs YZ for the same money and Sky throw in free BB where VM charge uber£'s for the same thing. I dont think average Joe Blogs looks at BB reliability because if they did Talk Talk wouldnt exist , but the fact people get cheap calls and free/cheap BB from Talk Talk means its one of the biggest and I think average Joe Blogs approaches subscription TV in a similar fashion ... its what you get for your £ and freebies that turns Joe Blogs head. All of course IMO and loads will disagree ... now crossing fingers that all made sense as it did when i typed it :shocked: |
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iPlayer is new in so far the general house hold does not have its BB connected to their main TV to view larger content of iPlayer via the Internet. So shall we say a new more convenient access to existing content which otherwise would be on your PC.
As I previously stated, VM need to make sure the gap between them and Sky is not too great, they will never match but the only thing I am concerned about is access to high value and popular TV content. Sky may have the most channels but are those channels missing from VM of high enough value to be of importance to the general public to decide their supplier? In some cases yes, some people want every HD channel possible, some want specific specialist channels, etc. VM is not the platform for all. VM strategy needs to be based on the launch of additional HD channels for which an additional 6 to 10 are fairly obvious gaps to address to make sure VM is not starting to look to far behind Sky on HD. So far we have 2 to come (Sky Arts 1 and 2 HD). But what could set things going is the use of HD streaming of content via the Tivo Internet port if this can be used to get around traditional TV exclusivity agreements for content. Personally I also find VM very cost effective, certainly cheaper than Sky for me, I don’t subscribe to Sky Sport/Movies by the way, so a base TV package is very cost effective for me with no extra £10 HD surcharge, etc. |
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Months down the line , a lack of sub free PVR on VM could be a wrong decision when V+ is no longer offered to new customers . A brand new customer wanting Sky movies and sports with Sky premium HD would have to pay 3.00 a month for a PVR and 7.00 a month Sky Premium HD , effectively the same as Skys HD charge for less content.
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i dont need your authority down with the moral majority 'cause i want to be the minority Care of Green Day:p: |
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I never listen to 'critics'. I always make my own mind up. |
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Tivo is awsome and i prefer giving my money to vm than sky but if they cant get the shows/Channels i want then i need to go elsewhere unfortunetly thats sky,I have friends who are currently on sky and are impressed with tivo but the sticking poin tis channnels and they are not alone.I currently have both so i can give a honest opinon,Phone,BB and best dvr is vm now with tivo,But for content(channels) sky is light years ahead and even thou vm can not/will not compete with them for that(and i dont blame them)there are still channels they can obtain.My fear that vmtv is gonna become like bt`s poor offering if they are not carefull
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Its on it way, just stuck in trafic :)
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I'm probably a bit late with this, but the video on the Tivo site has changed.
It seems to cover a few more features such as mobile recording. :) |
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Also, if the viewing figures on these first run shows are lower than an ITV3 repeat or a CBeebies show, that may be an indicator. (Boardwalk Empire - 772k, Bluebloods - 517k; Doc Martin 823k & Charlie and Lola 539k) |
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