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apart from the wee spike at 12pm the rest is idle and am shocked to see even tho peak time latency was not as bad as can be last night the packet loss was worse than most nights when i see insane latency, and yet again even on a good night the 4pm increase is present,either some one maxing there connection's out every day at 4pm or that's traffic shapping kit increase.

am sick of checking latency now and feeling vm are not bothered about the experiences i am having on there network, bandwidth a+ latency f-

any one else in the oldham area checking there latency on here?
EDIT @roughbeast. when maxing upload mine spike upto around 140 (which is the same allmost as when idle and getting these latency spikes, which leads me to think am over subscribed and competing with heavy p2p users, or serious skydrive users) and avg is insane but that is the norm anyway, it being idle and still getting dog egg latency thats the pits
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...31-05-2011.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

This graph includes, for now, the point at which I closed down Utorrent just after 12.00 noon yesterday.

Since then the maximum latency has varied in a series of 1-2 hour-long peaks and troughs. I cannot explain all of those with computer activity. Packet loss looks good though.

Next time I am away I'll try it with just the router on and no clients.


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/108.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/41329364.png

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50MB on Superhub
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Stephen, there are 2 Dublin servers, Eircom and digiweb. digiweb gives a lot lower pings if you want to test to that one its usually arouns 13ms to 15ms whereas the eircom one is usually 30ms+

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Cheers, 34ms still is pretty low though :) and I have no gaming issues from the connection either.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Was there a firmware update at approx 3:30am yesterday morning, the little red spikes are evident on all of yesterdays post's

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Nice spot but it was nearer 4pm ;) not sure what would have caused that.

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[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

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http://www.pingtest.net/result/41336590.png

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They did an update to the p2p management policy yesterday, but I can't see that it would cause superhubs to reboot. Didn't affect my modem

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missed that as i rebooted router a couple of mins before, that is why i have 2 packet loss periods at that time. (maybe my super hub is super and rebooted all your connections)

last night was well poor, had to turn xbox off at about 9.45pm as the planes in battlefiled 1943 was impossible to fly with that lag freeze. pathpings wouldn't even resolve to the final hop during that bad period

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.251]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 workhorse-PC [192.168.0.2]
1 10.34.248.1
2 * manc-core-1b-ae3-2527.network.virginmedia.net [82.8.209.61]
3 manc-bb-1b-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.66]
4 * manc-bb-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.187.177]
5 glfd-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.175.146]
6 glfd-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.46]
7 redb-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.78]
8 * * *
Computing statistics for 175 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 workhorse-PC [192.168.0.2]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 10.34.248.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 31ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% manc-core-1b-ae3-2527.network.virg
inmedia.net [82.8.209.61]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 34ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% manc-bb-1b-as0-0.network.virginmed
ia.net [212.43.163.66]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 36ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% manc-bb-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmed
ia.net [62.253.187.177]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 42ms 1/ 100 = 1% 1/ 100 = 1% glfd-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmed
ia.net [213.105.175.146]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 40ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% glfd-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmed
ia.net [213.105.159.46]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 31ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% redb-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedi
a.net [62.253.185.78]

Trace complete.

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Well in the interest of balance I will give a progress report on my Sky Unlimited BB, the first few weeks were ok, the router was syncing at 4.1kbps down and approx 800 Up. Jitter is usually below 4 to 5 ms and my ping is in the region of 40 to 60 ms (wireless)

Gaming has been generally ok, with stable pings since I changed from a saturated 30/3 virgin media package but all has not been particularly well with Sky so far.

The router just wont respond to the TBB ping monitor so Ive given up trying, and I can also say hand on heart that the superhub is better, there you go I've said it.

The standard issue sagemcom modem/router Sky now issue is just shocking in terms of it's port forwarding and DMZ capabilities, neither of which work full stop on either the PS3 or xbox, and the only way I can get just a moderate NAT is by allowing UPnP to do it's stuff.

After the first few weeks I noticed the router speed had dropped considerably and was now syncing at just 2 meg while the upload remained unchanged, this wasnt the only issue as the broadband kept dropping out randomly and the also when the landline rang.

After a few phone call's and a little head shaking, I've managed to get my speed increased to 3.5 Mbps and it appears to be stable again but it still reboots randomly a couple of times a day, in total in the 4 or 5 weeks I've had this service I've gone through 2 routers and 3 filters which isn't a good start.

Gaming has improved overall but because I'm at the end of a long copper line I'm not feeling the benefit as much as I had hoped.

I do hope VM get to grips with the local issues causing their service (for me) to be pants but I wont hesitate once it's fixed, to move back to vm.

I might have a bit more of a play and see if I can't get the TBB ping monitor to work because I'm interested to see just how stable Sky's BB is now after all the faffing about, and if anyone has successfully managed to get it to work please let me know.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Only just notice a drop in speed over the past few weeks and have just set up a ping monitor today. Have a gander at this and see what you think.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png


I think its terrible and online gaming is impossible. Been on to the 50Meg tech today and they say congestion and he gave me a date of the end of this month for a fix, yeh right.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/157.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/41353789.png

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Roughbeast
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/108.png

Stephen
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png

Welshchris
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png

asbo dog
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png

Mine
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png

Notice they all have that double spike packet loss at around 11pm... what are you up to, VM?

BeafSalad, that is the worst result I've seen in a long time. Talk above massively oversubscribed.

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Zeke, it's always possible it could be the TBB servers causing it but I suspect not, I suppose it could be another tweak to the P2P policy mentioned earlier

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Is it a bad thing when pingtest.net cant tell your packet loss?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

True, it could be TBB's fault. Would be nice to see some results from folks on BT or Sky packages: if they lack those synchronous packet loss spikes we can rule them out.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

red spikes could be one of many things, routing changes, tbb server issues, vm side issues. If the red mark isnt on pip's graph who is on BT then it would suggest either a vm side issue or transit issue between tbb and vm.

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No, it's not on my graph.

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png

Think its a TBB fault, it's on my school's connection as well.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png

Have had to reboot the SuperHub twice in two days. Once the Ethernet ports locked up, and second time wireless went haywire. Getting sick of this thing.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Sounds like you got one of the same bottom of the barrel units I did, where almost everything makes it lock up.

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The thing is, it was working perfectly fine for the past few months and only decided to **** up now. Grrr.

My friends VM connection on the 10Mb tier in Newcastle:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/144.png

Looks awesome when it's idle.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

before and after speed uplift around the red bit. Bit of an ouch.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-06-2011.png

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Something was going on with BT yesterday but OK now.

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I want your broadband, gizit,,, go on gizit now pip. :D

I noticed a plethora of BT vehicle's round our way yesterday doing some ground work, unfortunately I dont think it's anything to do with Infinity, as far as I know there are no plans to do Birchwood before 2015 which is a bit naff.

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no plans for FTTC here at all full stop.

I been thinking about something ignition said on the VM forums tho.

For VM to supply 100mbit service which comes with 10mbit upload and if they want the user to be able to get 10mbit upload on speedtests then they are going to have to keep utilisation below about 45% on the upstream because the upstream port is only about 18mbit of useable bandwidth. If they do this then I would assume jitter would improve significantly. However I dont think is/will be the case. :(

Currently with 5mbit been the hghest upload in many areas VM would need to keep utilisation below about 70% and they failing to do that as some areas dont see full upload speeds at peak.

Judging by some of the graphs I seen here I would think 100mbit will be a disaster in some areas, yesterday my upload slowed down to 0.8mbit at its worst on a 3mbit upload, yet previously before they oversubscribed the bandwidth with the uplift I had a solid 1mbit upload 24/7, 0.8mbit upload on the 100mbit product would be a disaster.

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My ping seems to have dropped by 10ms+ when I changed back to the VMG300 on my 100mb

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Sounds about right!:D:D:D:D

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I was getting very bad Jitter on the pooperhub too, sometimes up to 12/13ms

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Not surprised, I'm not allowed to refer to it as that though under risk of suspension!

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

there are two dublin servers btw eircom and digiweb, digiweb gives lower pings so choose that one ;)

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Absolutely consistent with other people who can compare modems to superhubs. Even the superhubs which work properly. It just raises ping/jitter/average latency times, and considering certain areas it is rolled out already have over-subscription it compounds an existing problem, sadly.

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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

yesterday
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...03-06-2011.png
today
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...04-06-2011.png

I had the superhub in for yesterday afternoon and evening during that mess, then I had an outage yet again and when it came back I put the vmng300 back in, but now the service is poor on both modems with the vmng300 still been better.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Looks like VM have ballsed the network up in your area. Nice one VM.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

yep last night even at 4am the utilisation is higher than previously was in the day before uplift.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...04-06-2011.png

http://www.pingtest.net/result/41508981.png

Seems pretty good since uplift, was worried at first but it seems like that was just a national fault VM was experiencing.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

here is mine today on the vmng300 and on a different interface, (still same upstream channel),

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...04-06-2011.png

yesterdays was cpc14 and was on the superhub after 1pm.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/132.png


Mine looks more stable than most here (for brief periods it seems). It performs ok tbh, only occasionally gaming in my ps3 sucks

This us vmng300 + Netgear WNDR3700

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Weekends are usually pretty stable here. Add in the sun and this is looking half decent for my area.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...04-06-2011.png

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...04-06-2011.png

Finally got my Sky TBB results to work, the large green spike was when I had my PS3 on downloading a demo from PSN, plus 2 laptops running constantly just browsing.

Also bear in mind there appears to be a fault on my line (noise I suspect), which is yet to be rectified, but either way it's not looking brilliant.

I appreciate this is deviating from the topic but could anyone comment on my router stats,

ROUTER STATISTICS

System Up Time: 5:11:04
Port Status TxPkts RxPkts Collisions Tx B/s Rx B/s Up Time
WAN PPPoA 421460 792459 0 26344972 1133512130 5:10:01
LAN Down 0 0 0 0 0 5:11:04
WLAN Up 179284 164847 0 50559423 13928571 5:10:45
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 3488 kbps 800 kbps
Line Attenuation 56.0 dB 31.5 dB
Noise Margin 11.2 dB 11.0 dB

I've been next door to my neighbour and obtained his Sky router stats and his downstream speed is damn near double mine.

His router stats
Connection Speed (down=6713kbps) and (Up=796kbps)
Line attenuation (down=49db) and (Up=26.4db)
Noise Margin (down=6.6db) and (Up=15.5)

Nextdoor's router stats are world's apart from mine, the only thing is I have absolutely no idea what it means.

Any comment's from our more knowledgeable gentry

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Well your attenuations higher so indicates more noise, have you removed the bell wire? That should help. What ISP is he with? If its o2 or be etc then his line will give a better reliability at lower snr. Once you have sorted the noise problem, probably the bell wire, then you can get sky to lower your snr

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I will be asking some questions to VM next week, my neighbours graph is unreal, same tier as me, same downstream channels, different upstream channel, graph is best I have seen on VM. If they cant reroute me to the same pipe as my neighbour then VM have some serious internal process issues.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Same ISP and no bell wire Craig

What next :)

---------- Post added at 23:58 ---------- Previous post was at 23:57 ----------

What I meant by no bell is I'm connected to the test socket with no extensions

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Well I managed to get a new line pulled by openreach, it got damaged and split when I had the front door fitted and openreach installed a new line for free. You could intentionally cause some accidental damage and get a new line pulled (or pay £99)

Have you tried a different microfilter?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Its possible I may have damage somewhere, no way of knowing for sure, Ive tried 3 filters so far but I believe the sky ones can be of poor quality so I might have to purchase a different one

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

The bt phone lines degrade quite rapidly after 20 years so if the property is older than that then that could be the cause. Also some of the cheaper ISP supplied routers (the Thompson tg585 I have in mind) give far less performance than a good quality router

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Good tip coz the house is over 20 years I believe, the router I have is the sagemcom which is the same as my neighbour.

cheers dude

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

I presume the line comes from a telegraph pole not underground? The underground ones are newer

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Underground, through a green pipe I think

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Sure that's not the vm cable?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yep pretty sure :D:D:D

The ducting is very similar though

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Most consistent day I've seen since the VMNG300 was installed.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...05-06-2011.png

IMO, everyone should have at least this level of service or better. In an ideal world...

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-06-2011.png


Had 2 days of a connection that worked almost ok.. so i turned off the monitor assuming it was "fixed"

Put it on last night again when i got home from a jaunt around the country after trying to play some Black Ops and being kicked for being a totally warping laggy *******.

So here i am back to square 1 - am going to seek a free upgrade to 30mbit from 20mbit on the extreme offf chance that will change something. :confused:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

ROFL i love virgin, Upgraded to 30mbit - which probably wont have a single effect or change a thing but i can hope. and now im paying 8 quid less, cos its cheaper than 20mbit

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

well your now on docsis 3 instead of docsis1, so providing the docsis 3 network isnt as oversubscribes as the docsis1 was then you should have a better connection

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Not always true.
Also, is it just me, or does everyone have packet loss on their VM graphs today? :/

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

packet loss at 1 oclock here

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Same packet loss here. And consistent right now :/

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-06-2011.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Same
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-06-2011.png

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

i claim the worst:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/120.png

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-06-2011.png

I'm getting good speeds but browsing is very slow 60% of the time. Not to mention erratic pings.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

VM have gone downhil sharply since last thurday for me.

uplifted to hell.
routing DPI issues
more routing DPI issues which now seems to have extended to non www content.

also I noticed if I use p2p jitter improves, as if VM's system favours giving timeslots to p2p users.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

i noticed that downloading helped ping and jitter, but it wasnt p2p, it was http

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/124.png

Heres one of the last 20mbit docsis 1.x ones i ever post.... Im so hoping that ill get a new service where using it when im actually in the house is an option.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

this packetloss becoming a daily event, given the VM attitude towards my port over utilisation and the increasing agression in DPI shaping etc. I think VM are doing serious cost cutting in their network.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

Yeah the packetloss that seems to kick in from 7pm is annoying.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-06-2011.png

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What the hell VM?! I move to DOCSIS3 then you negate that by messing with your network resulting in weird latency spikes and consistent evening packet loss? It's not bad enough that my VM BlackBerry hasn't been working properly since Monday due to problems on RIM's end.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

What the frack has been going on today. The last few days has been kind of ok but today is totally fracked up.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-06-2011.png

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As you can see looks like it started around 8:00hrs. Just look at the max ping on hop 1. 1644ms WTF.

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I know this is for the 50Mb, but just thought I'd have ago whilst on the 100Mb.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/105.png

I've no idea. :confused:

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

@BeafSalad, wow, are you sure you're not running any P2P software? Seems odd that there's a massive jump after 7am.

@Product 13, Do you have the SamKnows kit by any chance?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

@beefsalad

am on oldh9, been on suspend service for week and shocked to see the latency at this time 5pm to be at these levels, looks like my joy of xbox'ing again after a week away is out the window (all 7 of them)

will post some stat's later on
at mo ping plotter for 100 samples 27 avg min15 max 71, looks like match stick party on the graph

live graph http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...1c47b05cd.html

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.251]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 7 ms 7 ms 36 ms 10.34.248.1
2 34 ms 10 ms 7 ms manc-core-1a-ae3-2413.network.virginmedia.net [8
2.8.208.57]
3 16 ms 13 ms 10 ms manc-bb-1a-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.175.1]
4 33 ms 29 ms 25 ms glfd-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.175.146]
5 49 ms 39 ms 14 ms glfd-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.10
5.159.46]
6 18 ms 37 ms 34 ms tcl5-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
185.78]
7 33 ms 24 ms 16 ms 212.58.239.249
8 22 ms 24 ms 31 ms 212.58.238.149
9 16 ms 15 ms 43 ms rdirslb0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.136]
10 38 ms 25 ms 17 ms virtual2.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.254.251]

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/28.png

my first evening on 30mb Docsis 3 - It actually works..... forget 10 and 20mbit.. that crap is so oversubscribed.

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

That is still pants.

And what the heck is it with everyone getting packetloss between 7 and 11pm?

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

because VM's dpi kit cant even give priority to icmp packets ( something plusnet does very easily) hell the kit don't even bandwidth cap my p2p packets, defo never encrypted p2p and when run un encrypted the odd time to test they all so get red carpet treatment over vm's network

to me all packets seem to get pumped on to the network on a free for all tactic and the hype made about p2p shaping in the terms is not worth the hard drive space the clause is stored on

being a ex plusnet customer i know a thing or 2 about traffic shaping, there shaping can be extreme but there open and honest and work hard with there customers to insure the dpi kit is working, on bandwidth capping and priority queue fronts

2%-5% packet loss here last night 8pm - 10.30pm

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 

asbo dog I agree p2p shaping is a joke.

I have used torrents a few times in the past few weeks. Here is what I have observed.

1 - the speeds I get peak and off peak are not widly different even tho its clear my UBR is over utilised/subscribed. I am not doing anything special to evade shaping just ran utorrent on its defaults with a port specified for forwarding.
2 - when a torrent is running my tcp jitter improves, what the ...., so it seems VM's network rewards agression as I get favoured treatment for timeslots under torrent conditions.

The nighly packetloss is either DPI equipment overload, core network saturation, or peering/transit saturation, as it seems to be on every single graph my guess would be a peering issue, if its the core network it must be very close to the peering point as it affects everyone.

Here is my graph from wed 1st june the last day before VM uplifted speeds to what my UBR cant handle.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-06-2011.png

everything for the most part was fine peformance wise.

here is graph thurs day 2 june.

can see affect of uplift.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-06-2011.png

here is graph from the previous thursday when things improved as I think users got moved off my port. At 6am and 10am utilisation dropped.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-06-2011.png

Sadly I think VM realised they made a mistake as my port is the lowest utilised out of 3 in my segment, when I was told this by the CEO office I knew what may be coming and here is what did come the day after yesterday, see the utilisation jumps right up at 10am. I assume the users been moved back along with some on top to try and fix the other ports.

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Do they call that network management and providing a resolution for my problem? There is a huge difference between the top and bottom graphs, in terms of the speed uplift.

Latency is worse.
Download speeds are worse.
Web browsing is slower as a result.
Downloads are more jittery as a result.
Uploads can slow down to slower than the previous non uplifted speeds yes sub 1mbit.
The only thing thats better is that bulk uploading a lot of the time is faster but everything else about the service is worse.

Also how often is a reseg actually an upgrade rather than moving users around, if there is 3 congested ports, then moving users around the 3 ports isnt going to fix the problem, ultimately either it would need lower end user speeds, less users, or a capacity upgrade. I still think now after an area has had a speed uplift there is a spending freeze on capacity hence the introduction of traffic shaping.

VM's own tests show my port is overloaded, I am not been fobbed off now so they admit is overutilised, that is something, the problem is last time it took them a year to fix it.

I would be curious for a response here from nopanic or benmgr.

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Yes I was uploading a torrent but it wasn't doing sh*t. May this is when it decided to work.
These are the graphs for today with no torrents. As you can see there still is a peak at around 7:00hrs mark but not as much.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-06-2011.png

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beef am on oldh9-2-0 30mb and to be honest am not seeing what you are, things just seem the same as normal which is poor but just useable.

live graph http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...1c47b05cd.html

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Can we maybe have smaller images that don't mess with the forum default width please?

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it might be pants but compared to 15% packetloss between 5pm and midnight everyday its godlike.

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is this why vm are so bad compared with adsl/fttc

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and when latency looks better than normal vm instead give you packet loss to keep you un happy. dont make sense thathttp://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2699/captureral.png

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/06/100.png

My utilisation is now steadily increasing weak by weak, this is becoming a joke Virgin. Speeds have dropped ever so slightly too. Wonder how pings are doing...

Oh and DPI, you make me lol.

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any one know what the ip address is of the firebrick tbb are using and is it possible path ping it, would like to see where the packet loss is happening as the loss levels seem same across vm network but latency is different.

the increase in loss today is defo due to the rain increasing usage

hum jus ad idea to turn flood back on and try and gain the ip from the logs

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Aye, packetloss from 2pm here too.

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How is this for you all

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...2-06-2011.html

Do I win a prize?

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Jesus christ Tazz, that's insane. I have seen worse though....

Have you complained? and which UBR? :O

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the daily packetloss is unreal today, all day almost.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...12-06-2011.png

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Is this one of those if i show you mine you show me yours threads :LOL:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/99.png

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Just created my graph for host "cpc17-leic15-2-0-cust252.8-1.cable.virginmedia.com" not looking to good for no activity on the line.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...12-06-2011.png

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Yeh its actually an area fault upstream power is at 30db lol

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/06/27.png

30mb in Gorseinon... what the hell at packet loss

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Weird... all those packet loss patterns look nearly identical. Including mine.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...12-06-2011.png

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...13-06-2011.png

Blackburn, seems this started on the 4th of this month and is getting worse by the day :(

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Anyone raised it with them?

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...13-06-2011.png

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There's probably several. The one I'm getting pinged from is:

C:\Users\Administrator>tracert 80.249.99.164

Tracing route to pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms n1 [10.0.0.254]
2 43 ms 8 ms 48 ms cpc9-sgyl31-2-0-gw.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [77.99.218.1]
3 15 ms 27 ms 12 ms sgyl-core-1a-ge229.network.virginmedia.net [81.97.49.29]
4 20 ms 23 ms 63 ms manc-bb-1c-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [195.182.178.90]
5 16 ms 16 ms 18 ms manc-bb-1a-ae11-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.85]
6 84 ms 74 ms 26 ms brnt-bb-1b-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.86]
7 23 ms 24 ms 30 ms brnt-tmr-1-ae5-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.50]
8 25 ms 28 ms 27 ms telc-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.185.74]
9 33 ms 27 ms 24 ms linx-gw1.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.226.240]
10 24 ms 28 ms 55 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
11 30 ms 26 ms 28 ms pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Administrator>

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That's because the packet loss is between VM's core network and TBB's pingbox(es). Nothing to do with the individual connections.

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I am betting its VM's linx running too hot, ingition has been hinting about that for a while.

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yep the packet loss started again last night, checking the ip the loss was coming from both

9 33 ms 27 ms 24 ms linx-gw1.thdo.ncuk.net [195.66.226.240]
10 24 ms 28 ms 55 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]

running pathpings to manchesters pingtest server. the loss was coming from virgins final hop tho

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...14-06-2011.png
Red bar just before 4pm was when my service got cut off and switched over to a majorly congested/broken set of different channels for no apparent reason in the middle of the afternoon.

May not look very different graph wise, but average download speed has dropped from 35mbps to 8mbps.