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lord forbid someone thought different to you about something. :rolleyes:

anyway, from the pictures of the alleged attacker (the fox), I'm surprised that, for such a savage attack, the white mouth and chest of the fox isn't covered in blood. it's quite clear to see that the photographed animal does not have blood over it. the report also says

this leaves room for the position that not only was this not the fox, but indeed that it might not have been a fox at all that committed the offence. some people seem very quick to jump on the band wagon and place blame where no conclusive evidence has been submitted, only a statement and assumptions. you wouldn't kill a man based on one persons comment that the man had done wrong without proof.

why is it ok to do the same to an animal - more than that, and entire species? we're talking about people trying to initiate a cull of urban foxes here (plus the ones in the country as the thread title suggests). imagine if someone were to try and kill, say, all Jewish people because they felt wrongly done by a few....

it's madness - this whole thing has gotten well out of hand and it appears a LOT of people are falling into the angry mob trap here (thanks for that Fleet Street). I don;t deny the children are in a bad way from what I've heard, and yes, that is a terrible thing, but there is nothing in this entire story thus far that proves without reasonable doubt that a fox mauled these children. and now, the fox, that apparently just stood in the room staring at the mother when she entered, has suddenly turned into a kidnapping, child-eating animal!! WTF??? get a grip people - step back and take a good look at what's happening here...

I think, before we start killing innocent animals, we wait for the hard evidence - more than just a womans story, which is what it is at this stage. a court would not throw someone in prison on the same basis. and for those of you who now turn and say 'But these things are vicious blood-thirsty animals' well take a good look at what the human race is becoming. you need look no further than this event and in some cases, perhaps this very thread. vicious blood-thirsty animals indeed.

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doesn't mean it was a fox though, does it?

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what's with comparing this incident with the slaughter of jews ..which you were quite clearly eluding to ...we are not dealing with people here it is a animal that is consistently year in year out becoming more of a pest in urbanised areas ,mostly because humans insist on treating them like pets by feeding them and treating deseases in them

so what do you think it was if it wasn't a fox ? i would appreciate an answer not more tree hugger ramblings

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hmm.. i fear my point in it's entirety was lost on you. ho hum...

1) the comparison was that we would not accept what people are proposing to do the the foxes, were it done on people. what makes it acceptable to be done on an animal - although in this case, a large group of innocent animals? I believe I am right in saying it was a single fox that did this (according to the media reports). Why need we kill all foxes? much the same as a couple of Jews made one man feel bad, so he decided to try and eradicate them all. same difference.

2) then let's educate the people and not punish the product of their own doing. it's not unlike shooting the messenger, and I'm sure we are all familiar with the saying regarding that. also see point 4 below.

3) the whole direction my initial thread was going in is that we do not know for sure what did this to the children, so we shouldn't become to hasty in becoming judge and jury. as I said, you would not sentance a man to prison or death based entirely on one persons story and the result of an event without ensuring you found out the circumstances that actioned the result.

4) This point is merely to get you to read the last paragraph of my post you quoted above regarding becoming vicous blood-thristy animals. now take a step back, and think about what you are saying, should you agree that a cull is in order here. if it still isn't clear, then what I'm am trying to draw attention to is the ironic situation whereby people are calling for a huge cull of innocent (and yes, they are innocent as only one fox allegedly did this) animals they themselves consider blood-thirsty killers.

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No idea if this has already been mentioned, the article from 2003.

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i personally don't think a cull is in order i do think that they should not be fed or treated for desease when a member of the public finds a injured or deseased fox it should be put down not restored to health .I have no idea what you are trying to say in the rest of the paragraph re.becoming vicious blood thirsty animals:shrug:
now could you answer my question ...what do think attacked the babies given that the fox was discovered in the bedroom next to the injured babies with no other animals reported in the house

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I'm afraid you have quoted my post from before I editted it, yet you did post a response well after I editted it. please reread my post from the forum, not an email alert. there is a big gap in time there (17 minutes between my edit and you quoting response).

I'm not making any definitive decision on what caused the injuries because thus far, there is no clear cut evidence that goes beyond circumstancial. however, the reports do point to it being a fox attack. however, I know that as a parent, if I found something attacking my child, I'd kill it myself, yet no attempt appears to have been made to even apprehend the fox, which (depending on which paper you get your info from) was just standing there looking at the mother whilst she screamed. does that not strike you as odd? second to that, there is a photo believed to be the fox that attacked - yet there appears to be no blood on it. odd? and why, if it were scared away by screams and then lots of people, noise and flashing lights, would it come back in the midst of it all and peer through the window? perhaps it was attracted by all the commotion? who knows?

at the end of the day, regardless of how I have worded any responses, I still believe that we should step down from being judge and jury in a situation where there is no proof of it being a fox, regardless of the likelihood and circumstances. it's a dangerous place to stand.

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They have a picture of a fox, it has not yet been proved it was the same animal that attacked the children.

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If only you gave the Police the same benefit of the doubt.....;)

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I once saw a dead bird laying at the back of my house with the pet dog sniffing it as I walked into the garden. At first, it would be very easy to assume that the dog had somehow managed to catch the bird and kill it. Until I went upstairs and into one of the back bedrooms. Upon looking out the window, I saw an unmistakable bird shape impression. turns out the bird had killed itself by flying into the window and fell to the ground, where I found the dog sniffing it.

jumping to a conclusion could have meant me scolding the dog for something she didn't do. Luckily, I learned many years ago not to take action or pass judgement on something if you don't know the full circumstances surrounding the event. It looked like the dog caught and killed the bird, but I didn't see her do it myself.

I believe others would to well to step back when such drastic 'solutions' are being thrown around. yes, what has happened is terrible. I wouldn't wish it on any family. but we still can;t go round advocating a culling.

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Brian May's view

May wrote: "Fox attacks babies? Sure! And monkeys will fly... out of my butt.

Well it might save you from talking out of it

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-fox-rant.html

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Yes we can

London Mayor Boris Johnson said councils should "focus on their duties for pest control".

Mr Johnson said foxes were a pest and a menace and could in rare circumstances pose a threat to humans, telling reporters: "Therefore it's right that boroughs should focus on their duties for pest control because as romantic and cuddly as a fox is, it is also a pest."

Seem to remember Dave Cameron said something similar the other day to IIRC.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/latest/...5875-22319671/

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I've never understood the attitude towards animals when it comes to pest control in this country. It seems the furrier and cuter and domestic the animal looks, the more people are against controlling them. The foxes that frequent my garden come up close to the patio, they hide behind my shed, they sometimes knock my bin over. They certainly prevent me leaving my daughter in the garden on her own to play in her sandpit for more than a couple of minutes.

I have seen ones in the street wandering around like stray dogs. If they were rats no one would have a problem uising a trap on them - (I have killed rats & mice with mouse traps/bait).

As you might have guessed I'm pro cull.

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There appears to be conflation between cull and hunt, when (imho) they are completely separate issues, with the only common point being foxy-woxy.

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Well I have been informed(though not given definite proof) that fox numbers sort of work them selves out and so there is no need to cull or hunt them..

Not that I believe it seeing as we re still inundated with foxes here.I'm living in a borough boundaried by large MOD properties(Browndown and Ex DEADELUS and with a wildlife and deer conservation area and Lee Golf Course so they aren't strictly urban foxes either.

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hmm

even if foxes are running wild in urban areas i really cant see it as a big problem most likely they are helping keep the rat population down

in newport ( south wales ) they have been on a get rid of pigeons campaign and been doing really well at it BUT since they have done so we are seening more and more rats in places and times we never saw them before

you mess with nature at your peril

what in any case this has to do with hunting is lost on me hunting has never controlled fox numbers in fact many hunts were breeding ( or helping those foxes they knew of to bring up cubs ) so there were enough to hunt

and ( i will dig out figures if i really have to ) only about 6 to 7% of foxes killed per year were done by hunts any way most are and were killed by trapping shooting or run over by cars

if your really worried about foxes in your garden get some dogs ;) not expect a huge investment in pest control which likely wont make much difference any how

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Not much of an comfort really from those two. They are not exactly the foxes' greatest allies, are they.

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Do you have evidence of that, or are you just assuming they will act a certain way because of their class (which is a form of prejudice)?

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:dozey: Just for urban foxes how about BMX instead of horses ;)

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Brian May Save-ME website Ooops!

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Think he meant BJ the mayor and Dave rather than that old queen....

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OK - thanks....

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He gets my support :tu:

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Me too :tu:

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After all they have been through......

The family whose babies were savaged by a fox in their cots are being given police protection over fears of an attack by animal rights activists.

Terrorists more like imo.

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Indeed - absolute ****.

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Are you saying that BoJo and Cameron have not supported fox hunting in the past? Where did I refer to their class?

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Where have these "attacks" manifested themselves? What is the source of this quote? Do I really need to ask?

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The source is just about every newspaper in the country. There hasn't been any attack yet, just the expected bunch of internet freaks and loons posting threats of potential visits. I am glad the police are taking the threats seriously to, anyone with any experience of some of these animal rights extremists knows what they are capable of.

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Thats right Flyboy deny that threats have been made the same way you denied it was a fox that caused the injuries in the first place :rolleyes:

Hears an idea that should keep the "toffs" and the sensible working classes happy ...instead of fox hunting how about activist hunting ....40 foxhounds chasing some animal rights idiots through the woods

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Is this supposed to be proof?

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Have you ever seen the result of a visit by the Fox hunting extremists

http://www.realca.co.uk/diary_of_violence.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle421146.ece

So who are the terrorists now ???

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co....us39.954323.jp

I could go on but i think you get the idea that there is idiots on both sides of the coin.

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So, still no evidence, apart from a few right-wing newspapers' guesses. A few people have suggested, as some have on here, that it might not have been a fox. Sorry, but I don't consider that to be a threat and quite frankly, I am surprised that you do.

Why have you brought class into this particular part of the discussion?

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Well i have had my fun in the past chasing Fox hunting activists :LOL:

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So, have they supported fox hunting? I did not say they hadn't, but did say you appear to be assuming they have.

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for gods sake Flyboy do you just come on here to wind people up and deny everything that doesn't fit into your way of thinking The story is all over the news it was on sky news this morning 6am ,and i daresay it will be covered by the BBC in a couple of days when they catch up with the rest of the world

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But there is no story, there are no threats, just a few people on a website saying they don't believe that it was a fox and that they don't like the mother.

What part of, “no specific threats" means that there were threats?

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whatever has been been happening is enough for the police to be involved or don't you believe them either :rolleyes:

and don't forget nobody has said there have been attacks it's the fear of attacks or threats the police are worried about but you keep denying it and demanding more proof

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Err...that is the point of this thread, isn't it. Cameron has declared his support for fox hunting by promising to repeal the ban during this parliament and BoJo has often spoken of his support for the repeal of the ban.

But why have you raised the issue of class in this particular discussion?

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Unless I missed it, I didn't read anywhere that the police said that they are concerned enough to protect them over it. My suspicion is that there is an officer in attendance (I did hear hat it was a PCSO, not an armed bodyguard), because of the press's relentless badgering of the family.

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probably the same reason as i did ....to annoy you

wether you like or not class does come into it ,wealthy people fox hunt with horses and dogs not factory workers

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yes riding factory workers sporting jodhpurs and a red coat is frowned upon in the country side ;)

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then you missed it it was reported as police protection which could mean any number of things from officers at the door to them just monitoring the situation every few days

At the weekend, a Scotland Yard spokesman said it was not aware of any specific threats against the Koupparis family but there was 'concern' about internet aggression.
A police source said: 'We are aware that there is a potential threat', and an officer has been assigned to guard the family's home.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0qqnflq20

At the weekend, a Scotland Yard spokesman said it was not aware of any specific threats against the Koupparis family but there was 'concern' about internet aggression.
A police source said: 'We are aware that there is a potential threat', and an officer has been assigned to guard the family's home

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Well that's going to open up a can of worms, becasue the hunt supporters have always insisted that it is the anti-hunt lobby that is causing the class divide on this issue. They also are very keen on projecting an image of inclusion within their membership. But if you want to go against the mantra, be my guest.

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Then please point to where the police have confirmed they are protecting this family against anti-hunt protesters, who have threatened them, because that has been the inference during this whole exchange. Also bear in mind the quote from Scotland Yard:

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well of course they do ,they are trying to justify there lust for blood and killing animals


i just did please read the posts

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No you didn't. What you did refer to was a quote from the police saying, "We are aware that there is a potential threat," then the Daily Heil adding there own bit with, "and an officer has been assigned to guard the family's home." There is nothing in those reports that the police have confirmed that they are protecting the family from any kind of threat from anyone. If the police had said that they were, don't you think these so-called newspapers would have reported it?

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Have you attended a hunt ?

Because there is blood lust, There is screaming and shouting at the kill, Spreading of blood on kids, To see the look in those so called humans eye's is chilling. Blood lust is a small amount of the barbaric actions that go on at the kill. And yes i have seen it before you ask, I was sick to the stomach when i saw it for the first time :mad:

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i have seen one from a distance when i was young and lived near staffordshire it was sickening it instilled in me at a very young age a deep hatred for any cruelty to animals and anyone being cruel to animals

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Then you know why i am so vocal in both my anti hunt attitude and my stance on here.

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so the police are aware of a potential threat ....i said that

so the police have assigned an officer to gaurd the family home ....i said that

please read posts before spouting rubbish

if you want to doubt every report that is posted in this forum that is your perogative as far as i am concerened you are going back on ignore

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and i fully support any reasonable anti hunt actions but will never support any of the mindless acts of vandalism or terrorism (for want of a better word) done by activists,on both sides of the argument it has to be said ,wether they are done via the internet or in person

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:clap:

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No this is

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Those guys are tame compared to a lof of the animal rights nut jobs out there trust me, doesn't make their actions right though.

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Hopefully this is a bit lighter humoured. :)
Sorry, I couldn`t edit out the `s` word. Could a mod do it for me please. Thanks.

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Hmm!

From the Daily Mail today..Yes I must be ill..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-fox-home.html

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Come on Maggy, I don't really find it credible that you believe that.

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The most ridiculous thing I have ever read!!!

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Add to that an emotive photo of a snarling fox and you have a daily mail "balanced" story.:rolleyes:

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I am starting to see a pattern here. All of a sudden this list of attacks are raised, Is there a chance of a vote coming up ????

And is the Editor of the mail a member of a hunt :)

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Well I don't find it creditable that you think that the woman in the earlier report is lying.:rolleyes:

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well i can't see for the life of me how bringing back fox hunting will remove the urban foxes:shrug:

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It will not but it will fulfill the barbarians blood lust and let them carry on there SPORT.

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indeed

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Update: Child bitten by fox. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/10363646.stm

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The child pulled it's tail... it's not an attack, it's a reaction to having it's tail pulled.

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correct ,any stray dog would probably do the same

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Exactly, that's why I quoted that particular line from the BBC link.

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One wag rang up radio Brighton today who were having a discussion on this, and posed the question, "I wonder how many children get bitten by their hamsters each year".:)

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FYI the story has changed now, apparently the boy didn't grab its tail or try to stroke it, he was getting his ball according to his father. I think we might just start hearing a few more stories like this now, a link I posted earlier in the thread mentioned people didn't bother reporting attacks because they didn't think they'd be believed, not the case anymore.

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Yep nice PR blitz in the run up to a vote. Nothing like lots of press that will help you get your vote through even if its a load of bull plop. Scare the public so they tell there mp to vote so the barbarians can indulge in there blood sport. Alister Campbell heading up this pr blitz by any chance

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Get a grip, there isn't even going to be a vote....

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Did the parents not teach their child not to touch a wild animal? A wild animal would not know that the hand approaching it is not evil. It will see it as an attack, and (to paraphrase Jurassic Park) defend itself, violently if necessary.

I'm pretty sure I was taught never to touch wild animals.

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I certainly was, but as usual I didn't listen and ended up marrying my first wife. :rolleyes:

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So has it been confirmed then. The tories are not going to allow a free vote on allowing fox hunting again. I dam well hope so.

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i would hope that it's very low down on the list of priorities if it's even being considered in this parliament

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I do so hope so. We have a country in a mess never seen before and Fox hunting is not going to fix it

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Exactly, the thing that pished me of the most about the entire hunting debate was the amount of Parliamentry time it wasted, some thing like 700+ hours. Imo no matter how flawed some might think the act is, it should never be debated again in Parliament again.

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Thats a statement i can fully agree with :tu:

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and another one...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-bedtwice.html

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If the ban wasn't introduced, would Labour have had to pay back the £1million+ in donations from an organisation, which were only made in order for a ban on fox hunting to be introduced?

Link

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Only if the Tories have to pay back all the money they've accepted from people attempting to influence party policy and legislation. :LOL:

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Pah, next they'll be suggesting that Labour were bribed to exclude F1 from the ban on tobacco advertising... oh wait.

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Seems like chihuahua is on the menu now

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...chihuahua.html

Liked this line

The RSPCA said there was little evidence of foxes going for pets.

and yet from 5 years ago

Urban foxes are attacking and killing pet cats because they are struggling to find enough food to eat in British towns and cities.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ions-cats.html

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Thing is the RSPCA didn't say NO evidence. Just wish some of these urban foxes would head back to the countryside, we have plenty of rabbits.

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Some people :(

Police in Tower Hamlets have begun an investigation after a video that appears to show a masked gang beating a fox to death was posted online

http://londonist.com/2010/08/fox_bea...ctoria_par.php

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I did actually think it was a bit of trouble for chav types to go to, what with lacing the food but I have been reading/hearing stories like this for ages

Killer dogs are being used to hunt down foxes in urban areas in a disturbing new 'sport'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-streets.html

Interesting thoughts on it by Seb

London Evening Standard, columnist Sebastian Shakespeare went so far as to celebrate urban foxhunting as the first and best example of David Cameron's "big society" in action.

Oh and I loved the way the hoaxers labled it pythonesque :shrug: Well if they mean in the sense it wasn't very funny and they take themselves a little bit to seriously then have a point imo

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I suspect that wheelie bins have made life a lot harder for urban foxes.They used to regularly tip over my old bins and tear open the bin bags which used to drive me nuts with having to recollect all the garbage and rebag it.damned nuisances...but they can't tip my wheelie bins over at all.

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Trouble is though, this "hoax" is likely to encourage the real thing.

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Sorry to be pedantic, but it's not a "hoax", it's a hoax.

It wasn't a quote or ironic. ;)

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Another attack

Annie Bradwell was bitten on the ear by a fox who came into her house while she was asleep, and said she was very distressed by the thought that "one would come all the way through my flat and attack a sleeping adult".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11249182

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Just waiting for the claims this is all the fault of the hunting ban. :dozey:

What is needed is a proper solution to the urban fox menace. The hunting ban has at least stopped the deliberate breeding of foxes for hunting. So fewer are likely to migrate from the countryside.

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Yes, confirmed until 2012 at the earliest

The Government is to shelve a promised vote on repealing the ban on foxhunting until 2012 at the earliest

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...g-2169474.html

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Excellent :clap:

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So, a postponement, rather than a commitment to not raise the issue again.

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Why would they commit not to raise the issue again, when they are already committed to a free vote to repeal? You seem to think this is some sort of half-baked attempt to make the anti-hunt lobby think they have backed down. It is nothing of the sort.

It is postponed because Parliamentary time is currently required for more pressing issues. Incidentally, had Tony Blair not allocated vast, wasteful swathes of Parliamentary time to the issue in the first place, this highly illiberal, ineffective and vindictive piece of legislation would never even have made it on to the statute book.

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You may see it as "vindictive," most other sensible people don't give a damn about the false perspectives of some disgruntled blood thirsty morons.

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Wow - three sweeping generalisations in one short sentence.

Is this a record?

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But not any less accurate.

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iyo.....;)

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It's accurate to the extent that it's consistent with your tedious, left-wing urban agenda. No further.

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In my case i just dont like fox hunting full stop and have made my feeling clear on many an occasion .

I dont give a flying ho ho who carries out the sport i just feel there is a better way than using one animal to rip another animal to bits for the fun and gratification of some idiot on a horse.

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I am quite happy for this law to stay in place as the hunting a wild animal with a pack of animals has no place in a modern society and is actually quite sick.

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And from my point of view, it doesn't matter how stupid the person on the horse is. It's his right to be an idiot (assuming, of course, that he is an idiot).

This is a grossly illiberal piece of legislation sponsored by a lobby whose knowledge of the natural world comes courtesy of Walt Disney.


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Why does it have no place? Why is it sick? You make assertions but you offer no reason why anyone should agree with you.

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A right to have an animal ripped to shreads for fun? :( Are we as a race, not better than this?

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Totally agree :clap: