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Horace 01-05-2009 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34786827)
The French have got it.

They'll proberly blame us for giving it to them

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...irus_Infection

The French have always been pig-headed and Sky are always telling porkies.

Damien 01-05-2009 19:52

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I think people need to watch this film issued in case of emergencies such as this in this great country, this, Great Britain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA9X5921baI

This is Britain and everything's alright. It's okay. It's fine.

Chris 02-05-2009 09:30

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Mexico has revised down the suspected death toll from swine flu from 176 to 101, indicating that the outbreak may not be as bad as was initially feared.
Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova told the BBC that, based on samples tested, the mortality rate was comparable with that of seasonal flu.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8030365.stm

Graham M 02-05-2009 09:52

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That's a lot of people to not be dead :rolleyes:

Chris 02-05-2009 09:55

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I can just hear the daily mail quietly trashing its eight-page feature on how not to die of flu this year. My, the tabloids will be disappointed. Mind you, they won't be as disappointed as the Labour Party, which must have been grateful that a major international news story was deflecting attention from our useless Prime Minister for a change, rather than showing up his ineptitude.

Hugh 02-05-2009 11:45

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icestar2 02-05-2009 14:35

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Hundreds of thousands of swine flu advice leaflets have been printed in preparation for distribution to every home in Scotland.

Titled "Important information about swine flu", the pamphlets include 11 pages of information and advice.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8030566.stm

soicky 02-05-2009 15:51

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I'm sure quite a few people pocketed out of this.

Hom3r 02-05-2009 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by soicky (Post 34787216)
I'm sure quite a few people pocketed out of this.


Drug companies.

Chris 02-05-2009 18:17

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There is no evidence of the swine flu virus spreading in a sustained way outside North America, a top World Health Organization official says.
Dr Michael Ryan, WHO Director of Global Alert and Response, praised European nations' handling of cases and said events did not seem out of control.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8030859.stm


There are a lot of pig-sick (geddit) conspiracy nutters out there now, who just spent their life savings on tinned food, cheap bog roll and water purification tablets.


Looks like the sky isn't falling after all.

soicky 02-05-2009 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34787264)
Looks like the sky isn't falling after all.

Not yet. ;)

Maggy 02-05-2009 18:21

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The only thing out of control has been the media..:(

Chris 02-05-2009 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by soicky (Post 34787267)
Not yet. ;)

Well, I guess you have to keep the faith.

barby81 03-05-2009 17:48

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Does anyone know how this flu actually "kills" ...so far all the symptoms appear to be mild just like a bad cold? :confused:

superbiatch 03-05-2009 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by barby81 (Post 34787736)
Does anyone know how this flu actually "kills" ...so far all the symptoms appear to be mild just like a bad cold? :confused:

I'm assuming it would affect those with respiratory problems a lot worse than healthy people and lead to death in the weak :confused:

Russ 03-05-2009 17:55

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Essentially it's just like normal flu.

Stuart 03-05-2009 18:23

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It seems the danger maybe over. The mexican government says it's spread is declining and the WHO is now describing it as a seasonal flu, and are warning people to be vigilant in case it comes back..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8031761.stm

icestar2 03-05-2009 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34787753)
It seems the danger maybe over. The mexican government says it's spread is declining and the WHO is now describing it as a seasonal flu, and are warning people to be vigilant in case it comes back..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8031761.stm

What you mean all that panic was for nothing ? Who would of guessed it ;)

Hugh 03-05-2009 18:34

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RizzyKing 04-05-2009 13:11

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OMG i survived it i am invincible no new world order is getting me that easy blah blah blah. So there we go then not the end of the world not some great masterpiece of planning to control the world population :rolleyes:. But i fully expect those conspiracy sites to come up with a reason for it no doubt this virus is so well engineered it knows we will now relax and lull ourselves into a false sense of security ready in a few months time for "SWINE FLU 2 THE RETURN".

TheDaddy 04-05-2009 14:53

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For all those that mocked the coming aporkalypse, here are some early infection cases

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH69fKaWUyk

Gary L 04-05-2009 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34788252)
OMG i survived it i am invincible no new world order is getting me that easy blah blah blah. So there we go then not the end of the world not some great masterpiece of planning to control the world population :rolleyes:. But i fully expect those conspiracy sites to come up with a reason for it no doubt this virus is so well engineered it knows we will now relax and lull ourselves into a false sense of security ready in a few months time for "SWINE FLU 2 THE RETURN".

Maybe it was a test after all. and because they knew we knew they were testing. they changed their mind? :D

nffc 04-05-2009 17:58

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Hmm, most of the cases are Year 7 :o

Pierre 05-05-2009 09:40

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Just checking in after the weekend to check all members are still alive.

I see the "pandemic" in this country has reached critical mass with 27 cases.

Try not to panic now that 0.00004% of the population are infected.

At this rate you're 3,200 times more likely to develop multiple sclerosis. Don't panic though.

Raistlin 05-05-2009 09:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34788885)
At this rate you're 3,200 times more likely to develop multiple sclerosis. Don't panic though.

We're gonna develop what now? If I wear a mask will that protect me? Why isn't this being reported? Where can I get a jab? Which ethnic group/terrorist organisation/government party is responsible for this new illness? Is it worse that swine flu? Will we all die?

Damien 05-05-2009 09:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob M (Post 34788892)
We're gonna develop what now? If I wear a mask will that protect me? Why isn't this being reported? Where can I get a jab? Which ethnic group/terrorist organisation/government party is responsible for this new illness? Is it worse that swine flu? Will we all die?

Did you know 100 years ago no one was diagnosed with MS? Therefore it didn't exist. All that and they expect us to believe they didn't create it. :dozey:

zing_deleted 05-05-2009 10:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34788896)
Did you know 100 years ago no one was diagnosed with MS? Therefore it didn't exist. All that and they expect us to believe they didn't create it. :dozey:

Poor analogy MS did exist just wasnt recognised just as Swine Flu existed before this outreak however this is a new strain of the virus whereas as far as I am aware there isnt a new strain of MS as its an autoimmune system defect where the body attacks the central nervous system. Now if you liked it to TB which has mutated it would have stood up. Mind you you would have had to go a lot further back to where that wasnt diagnosed ;)

Lets just forget Swine flu for a sec and accept that we all know that bugs are being played with in the labs. We all know this to be the case do we not? I not think they hide the fact? we know they have some very dodgy things on the go like Ebola and the such.

Does not the law of averages state one day something will get out ;) lets hope its something mild when it does :)

Damien 05-05-2009 10:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34788906)
Poor analogy MS did exist just wasnt recognised just as Swine Flu existed before this outreak however this is a new strain of the virus whereas as far as I am aware there isnt a new strain of MS as its an autoimmune system defect where the body attacks the central nervous system. Now if you liked it to TB which has mutated it would have stood up. Mind you you would have had to go a lot further back to where that wasnt diagnosed ;)

My poor analogy was on purpose to highlight the conspiracy theory mind. I.E correlation equals causation. ;)

joglynne 05-05-2009 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34788906)
Poor analogy MS did exist just wasnt recognised just as Swine Flu existed before this outreak however this is a new strain of the virus whereas as far as I am aware there isnt a new strain of MS as its an autoimmune system defect where the body attacks the central nervous system. Now if you liked it to TB which has mutated it would have stood up. Mind you you would have had to go a lot further back to where that wasnt diagnosed ;)

Lets just forget Swine flu for a sec and accept that we all know that bugs are being played with in the labs. We all know this to be the case do we not? I not think they hide the fact? we know they have some very dodgy things on the go like Ebola and the such.

Does not the law of averages state one day something will get out ;) lets hope its something mild when it does :)

I know it wasn't a human illness but the biocontainment techniques in laboratories have already been brought into question following an out break of Foot and Mouth disease.

http://www.rxpgnews.com/nhsnews/Foot...ry_55940.shtml

http://www.lab-uk.co.uk/news/details...on_Biosecurity

Chris 05-05-2009 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34788906)
Lets just forget Swine flu for a sec and accept that we all know that bugs are being played with in the labs. We all know this to be the case do we not? I not think they hide the fact? we know they have some very dodgy things on the go like Ebola and the such.

Does not the law of averages state one day something will get out ;) lets hope its something mild when it does :)

Stuff will get out - it has, when Foot and Mouth escaped into the English countryside due to a bio-containment failure. But that was big news precisely because of its rarity.

Influenza is already known to be a virus that readily mutates and recombines with other strains. We don't need a containment failure hypothesis to account for swine flu, or any other variety of flu. Mutation is by far the most likely explanation.

Paul 05-05-2009 10:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob M (Post 34788892)
Will we all die?

Yes ... eventually ....

Pierre 05-05-2009 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34788940)
Yes ... eventually ....

Speak for yourself, I intend to live forever.

soicky 05-05-2009 14:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34788940)
Yes ... eventually ....

My mate Jim can sort you out with a little something that'll keep you going for longer. ;)

TheDaddy 05-05-2009 14:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34788927)
Mutation is by far the most likely explanation.

Exactly Chris, I am quite happy with the way our government has dealt with this, all good preparation for when the 'big one' comes and as much as the 'are we dead yet' lines and conspiracy analogies are pant wettingly funny, it's worth remembering that this pandemic probably isn't over, it'll most likely be back when the flu season starts in August, it could well have mutated by then.

RizzyKing 05-05-2009 15:50

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Well now this hasn't ended the world as we know it you can bet those conspiracy fans will be on the lookout for the next chance to incite mass panic. I feel great pity for conspiracy theorists because it seems to me a horrible way to live your life constantly in fear of this and that. Yes Zing we all know many agencies are playing around with bugs and viruses that maybe in an ideal world they wouldn't but to blame or to think every little outbreak is a result of that is a tad paranoid and worrying about it a little too much. Personally i take the view you come into this life with a set amount of time and when that time is up so are you so live to the max you can enjoy each day and worry about things only when you have too.

Stuart 06-05-2009 16:34

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http://www.doihavetheswineflu.com/

ginge51 06-05-2009 16:38

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^^^^
Agreed, It's all msm over hyping a few 100 deaths as if millions are dying.
What a load of crap.

Raistlin 06-05-2009 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34789987)

Excellent resource, thanks for posting that :tu:

Peter_ 06-05-2009 18:16

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Here is site that may help if you think you may have Swine Flu just click HERE

barby81 06-05-2009 18:24

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It seams that the flu:death ratio is about 1 in 20 so far and possible the survival rate is hire if early detection.

Heard a horror story earlier though that the Autumn could be Swine flu's most deadliest hour! :shocked:

soicky 06-05-2009 18:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by barby81 (Post 34790095)
It seams that the flu:death ratio is about 1 in 20 so far and possible the survival rate is hire if early detection.

Heard a horror story earlier though that the Autumn could be Swine flu's most deadliest hour! :shocked:

I swear Autumn lasts a little longer than an hour.

Hugh 06-05-2009 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by barby81 (Post 34790095)
It seams that the flu:death ratio is about 1 in 20 so far and possible the survival rate is hire if early detection.

Heard a horror story earlier though that the Autumn could be Swine flu's most deadliest hour! :shocked:

You mean just like normal flu?

Peter_ 06-05-2009 18:38

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/05/73.jpg
"It's a Hog-Eat-Hog world out there"








soicky 06-05-2009 18:44

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http://static.whatsontv.co.uk/images...735_117248.jpg


Not to long now. Counting the days........

lauzjp 07-05-2009 14:05

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not sure if this has been posted, searched for 'streets' but nothing came up -

The Streets have been busy boys lately, check this out he's behind you, he's got swine flu oops:

iFrankie 08-05-2009 21:33

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got the information booklet this morning, full of tips ect

Peter_ 08-05-2009 21:39

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Here is Amazon cashing in on the Swine Flu epidemic http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OTZK0W/...W&linkCode=asn

Chicken 08-05-2009 23:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by soicky (Post 34789119)
My mate Jim can sort you out with a little something that'll keep you going for longer. ;)

I keep getting emails offering similar results.

Tuftus 15-05-2009 15:49

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8051798.stm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC
The number of confirmed swine flu cases worldwide has risen by more than 1,000 in 24 hours to reach a total of 7,520

Oh noes... We are all doomed!!!

Cobbydaler 15-05-2009 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 34795879)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8051798.stm



Oh noes... We are all doomed!!!

7,520 cases worldwide & the Government have signed up for a potential 90 million doses of H1N1 vaccine...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8052488.stm

Peter_ 15-05-2009 22:12

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Peter_ 16-05-2009 10:10

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 34796238)
I see that cut and paste m8. :LOL:

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Osem 10-06-2009 13:06

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It hasn't gone away yet:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8087213.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/8092474.stm

Hugh 10-06-2009 13:10

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I know - we had our first case announced at work yesterday (however, 1 out of 3,500 ain't too bad).

zing_deleted 11-06-2009 18:20

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Proper Pandemic now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8094655.stm

Tuftus 11-06-2009 21:02

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Where can i find an online will kit?

slug 11-06-2009 21:11

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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 34812544)
Where can i find an online will kit?

http://www.tenminutewill.co.uk/

Tuftus 11-06-2009 21:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slug (Post 34812548)

Cheers! :p:

Hugh 11-06-2009 22:11

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We have a confirmed case at work, and another possible.

Excuse me whilst I still don't panic.

Gary L 11-06-2009 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34812607)
We have a confirmed case at work, and another possible.

Excuse me whilst I still don't panic.

You don't fool me.

nffc 11-06-2009 22:41

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Heh it just seems like a cold with a bit of a temperature and a bit like more of an upset stomach than normal, lasts a few days.

homealone 11-06-2009 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34812607)
We have a confirmed case at work, and another possible.

Excuse me whilst I still don't panic.

When I was abroad, recently, one country decided that all incoming air passengers had to have their hands & luggage 'sanitised' with a spray before clearing immigration - and set up a single station to process the hundreds of incoming travellers....

This resulted in a big queue of people, jammed together in a small space, waiting to be 'processed' - ideal conditions for sharing any viruses they had ?? - an example of well intentioned panic measures actually making things worse, in my opinion ???

Hugh 12-06-2009 08:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34812607)
We have a confirmed case at work, and another possible.

Excuse me whilst I still don't panic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34812618)
You don't fool me.

It's a fair cop.

Tuftus 12-06-2009 09:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34812757)
It's a fair cop.

Come on... We all know there is no such thing as a 'Fair' cop. ;)

Xaccers 12-06-2009 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 34812768)
Source

I guess the older you are the more likely that your immune system has seen something similar.

That was back in April, if memory serves it related to mexican cases, and those who had died mostly had other illnesses.
The most recent assessment I've seen states it's mild.

icestar2 12-06-2009 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34812625)
Heh it just seems like a cold with a bit of a temperature and a bit like more of an upset stomach than normal, lasts a few days.

Sounds like your speaking as if you've had it. Would that be right ?

nffc 12-06-2009 16:37

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Plenty of people who have had it have been interviewed...

icestar2 12-06-2009 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34813047)
Plenty of people who have had it have been interviewed...

Just the way you worded it I thought you may have had it. My mistake.

nffc 12-06-2009 19:52

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Yeah. sure. If I had it I'd probably have said... plus theres only been like 1 case in Notts apparently (Y)

Russ 14-06-2009 19:30

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8099832.stm

First UK death.

iFrankie 14-06-2009 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34814164)

Not so good, i wonder how old he/she was

Hugh 14-06-2009 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie07 (Post 34814171)
Not so good, i wonder how old he/she was

From the BBC article -
""The patient had underlying health conditions."
The statement added that, at the family's request, no further details will be released. "

zing_deleted 14-06-2009 20:37

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Underlying health problems could mean anything though from heart disease to blooming IBS

A perspective though

Quote:

About 36,000 Americans die on average per year from the complications of flu.
thats a lot from complications of normal seasonal flu

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/disease.htm

Damien 14-06-2009 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34814181)
Underlying health problems could mean anything though from heart disease to blooming IBS

I think they wouldn't have mentioned it if it were unrelated to the death..

RizzyKing 15-06-2009 09:02

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Still not seeing a reason to panic although i am sure that the media will hype up our first confirmed death from this. Right now i think the biggest risk to the public in the UK is not the virus though we should all be vigilant it is the media and the way they are happy to hype something to sell papers\ratings.

iFrankie 15-06-2009 09:06

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she was only 38 and she was a new mother

Quote:

Britain's first person to die while suffering from swine flu was a new mother who had given birth prematurely, it has emerged.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...tal%2C_Paisley

Hom3r 15-06-2009 22:06

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Sky have reported that the baby has died :(

The poor bugger has lost his parnter and baby son, at least they can be buried together.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...tal%2C_Paisley

iFrankie 16-06-2009 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34814915)
Sky have reported that the baby has died :(

The poor bugger has lost his parnter and baby son, at least they can be buried together.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...tal%2C_Paisley

just heard, only 2 weeks old.

zing_deleted 17-06-2009 13:35

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looks like its mutated already


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

Osem 17-06-2009 20:51

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/8105787.stm

Just remebered this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34785131)
I will quite happily bet my years salary, which isn't bad, that this is over in a week....

Who's going to collect? :D

Jimmy-J 17-06-2009 23:55

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I think I may have caught it. Since Monday afternoon, I've had Flu-like symptoms but without the sniffles, my head and neck and chest are killing me and if I take a deep breath or lie down, the pain gets worse! I have an appointment at the doc's in the morning... If I can make it!

Hugh 18-06-2009 07:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Product 13 (Post 34816477)
I think I may have caught it. Since Monday afternoon, I've had Flu-like symptoms but without the sniffles, my head and neck and chest are killing me and if I take a deep breath or lie down, the pain gets worse! I have an appointment at the doc's in the morning... If I can make it!

From the NHS website


"If you have flu-like symptoms and are concerned because you think you have been in contact with someone who may have swine flu:

Stay at home.
Check your symptoms if possible (links to external site)
Call the Swine Flu Information Line on 0800 1 513 513 to hear the latest advice

If you are still concerned, call your GP or NHS Direct on 0845 4647.
Do not go into your GP surgery, or to a hospital, as you may spread the disease to others. Ask your flu friend to go out for you."

Osem 18-06-2009 08:10

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If the official advice is to stay at home etc.., why aren't GP's surgeries dispensing that same advice to people ringing in for appointments? :confused:

Russ 18-06-2009 08:51

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And things just get better....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8105144.stm

zing_deleted 18-06-2009 09:06

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yeah but thats easily treated with anti biotics now it it said Ebola found in Reading or SmallPox rife in Bristol id worry lol

Jimmy-J 18-06-2009 13:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34816552)
From the NHS website

"If you have flu-like symptoms and are concerned because you think you have been in contact with someone who may have swine flu:

Stay at home.

Oops!
A good job I didn't have it. The Doctor is baffled by my symptoms. I still have the pain but not as bad. I think I may know now what it could be.

I use a cheap blender that I bought from Argos to mix the two shakes I have everyday, and I noticed just over a week ago that it wasn't mixing very well and was noisier than normal. This morning after getting back from the Doctors, I switched the mixer on and checked that the blades were working properly, they seemed to be rotating ok, but to my horror! I noticed that there was an oily black fluid leaking from above the blades. I turned it off and put some of this oily substance on my finger, it smelt of grinded metal, so I must have been contaminating my shakes for over a week! :erm:

nffc 18-06-2009 14:07

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Originally Posted by Product 13 (Post 34816751)
Oops!
A good job I didn't have it. The Doctor is baffled by my symptoms. I still have the pain but not as bad. I think I may know now what it could be.

I use a cheap blender that I bought from Argos to mix the two shakes I have everyday, and I noticed just over a week ago that it wasn't mixing very well and was noisier than normal. This morning after getting back from the Doctors, I switched the mixer on and checked that the blades were working properly, they seemed to be rotating ok, but to my horror! I noticed that there was an oily black fluid leaking from above the blades. I turned it off and put some of this oily substance on my finger, it smelt of grinded metal, so I must have been contaminating my shakes for over a week! :erm:

Ewwww. Surprised you didn't taste it.

Jimmy-J 18-06-2009 14:14

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Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34816771)
Ewwww. Surprised you didn't taste it.

I always added coffee to the shake to make it taste nicer, so it must have masked the taste of the metal?

Osem 18-06-2009 14:15

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Originally Posted by Product 13 (Post 34816751)
Oops!
A good job I didn't have it. The Doctor is baffled by my symptoms.

Is his name Doc Morrissey by any chance? :D

http://www.leonardrossiter.com/regin...rin/regdoc.wmv

Oh, and the original series of The Fall & Rise of Reginald Perrin is much better than the new one IMHO.

Osem 26-06-2009 20:23

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8121292.stm

Confirmed cases in England up 20% in a single day :shocked:

God knows how bad it'll be come autumn/winter...

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.......tens of thousands of cases of swine flu could be emerging each week by the autumn.

Chris 26-06-2009 20:26

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We should have sufficient vaccine for the entire population before then. For the time being it's a relatively mild strain of the flu so it's probably as well to let it have its way with the population.

I have a GP friend who suggested that for most people the side effects you can get from a course of Tamiflu may be worse than simply enduring the virus itself. And unless you get the vaccine afterwards, killing the infection with Tamiflu denies your body the opportunity to develop its own immunity.

Osem 26-06-2009 20:28

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34821982)
We should have sufficient vaccine for the entire population before then. For the time being it's a relatively mild strain of the flu so it's probably as well to let it have its way with the population.

I have a GP friend who suggested that for most people the side effects you can get from a course of Tamiflu may be worse than simply enduring the virus itself. And unless you get the vaccine afterwards, killing the infection with Tamiflu denies your body the opportunity to develop its own immunity.

The direct effects are one thing and of course as more elderly and vulnerable people get the virus the outcomes will no doubt worsen. There's also, however, the indirect effects of so many people having to stay off work and isolate themselves?

zing_deleted 26-06-2009 20:31

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can not this vaccine be rendered useless simply by the virus mutating over the summer?

A friend was talking to me normally the other saying alittle over a week before he was in bed with a head ache aches and pains sore throat and a temp and he didnt even report it he stood there like derr you think it might have been swine flu. I would have gone mental at him had he not been well for at least a week.

Chris 26-06-2009 20:32

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34821983)
The direct effects are one thing and of course as more elderly and vulnerable people get the virus the outcomes will no doubt worsen. There's also, however, the indirect effects of so many people having to stay off work and isolate themselves?

Good infection control measures can mitigate that by slowing the process of infection, but the fact is, we're at the beginning of a pandemic and a level of disruption is inevitable.

The work the health authorities have done so far will have been useful in slowing down the number of people who will have been infected by the time the vaccine becomes available, thereby minimising disruption to society. But once the infection gets beyond the stage of being controllable, there's not a lot of point worrying about it. It will do what viruses do, and just spread.

That's why in a number of areas around the UK they are now moving away from containment policies and concentrating on simply looking after sufferers.

Osem 26-06-2009 20:36

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34821990)
Good infection control measures can mitigate that by slowing the process of infection, but the fact is, we're at the beginning of a pandemic and a level of disruption is inevitable.

The work the health authorities have done so far will have been useful in slowing down the number of people who will have been infected by the time the vaccine becomes available, thereby minimising disruption to society. But once the infection gets beyond the stage of being controllable, there's not a lot of point worrying about it. It will do what viruses do, and just spread.

That's why in a number of areas around the UK they are now moving away from containment policies and concentrating on simply looking after sufferers.

I'm not worried at all - I have Avast! :D

Derek 27-06-2009 13:19

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34821982)
We should have sufficient vaccine for the entire population before then.

Hmmmm,

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The viruses in the flu shot are killed (inactivated), so you cannot get the flu from a flu shot. The risk of a flu shot causing serious harm, or death, is extremely small. However, a vaccine, like any medicine, may rarely cause serious problems, such as severe allergic reactions. Almost all people who get influenza vaccine have no serious problems from it.
As in one death, of someone with numerous underlying health issues, out of 5000 or so small?

I think unless people start dropping like flies I might just take my chances with the virus in the wild.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8024240.stm

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Originally Posted by BBC News
Safety is - unsurprisingly - paramount, as vaccines can often be worse than the disease they are trying to combat.

An outbreak of swine flu in 1976 infected 200 people in the US. Only one of them died, but a vaccine administered to 40m people killed 25 and led to 500 others developing Guillain-Barre syndrome, which can be fatal.


zing_deleted 27-06-2009 13:22

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this virus will be different in the autumn I think we have to be lucky for it it not to mutate. 1 death now could still mean thousands later early days yet

joglynne 27-06-2009 14:04

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34822445)
this virus will be different in the autumn I think we have to be lucky for it it not to mutate. 1 death now could still mean thousands later early days yet

With my immune system being shot I certainly hope it doesn't mutate to a more aggressive form. :(

zing_deleted 27-06-2009 14:15

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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34822462)
With my immune system being shot I certainly hope it doesn't mutate to a more aggressive form. :(

Its been 90 years since there was a high chance of death from a flu pandemic. 40 years ago there was a pandemic that killed 1 million thats a very small number when you are speaking global population in the billions

Global pupulation in 1950. 2,521 million so that 2,521/1 odds

this pandemic would have to kill 3 times that number to match the odds

ginge51 27-06-2009 18:22

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One Million People Have Swine Flu In US


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The number of people thought to have contracted swine flu in the US has topped one million, with infections continuing to rise.
Health officials in America say the H1N1 virus that has triggered a global pandemic is infecting people in the United States well beyond the normal period for influenza season.

Dr Anne Schuchat of the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said: "We are estimating about a million people in the US or more have gotten this virus at a time of year when people really aren't continuing to get the seasonal influenza viruses.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...nfluenza_Virus

I've had a flu bug for 4 days now, constantly sneezing and have a runny nose all the time, I've gave it to 4 people, my mum, dad, freind and another freind.
Hope it ain't swine flu, but it is easing now which is very good.
1st flu i had had in about 4-5 years.


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