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It's head to head after GD/GS i think.

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Frazier Campbell came as sub today, only to get injured so early on against Fulham, we have a big major problem at Tottenham, Campbell has already said he wants to go back to United, we have Bent, who is totally useless, so we only have one regonised striker, and that is Palyshenko, who is still trying to get on in the Premier League, so onluess we get some wins under our belt, we are going to be in the dogfight. Come on Harry or you could be playing one of your other clubs in the Championshop:mad:

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Lucky come back for City.

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Link

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oh dear

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Oooh I didn't realise he was charged. I thought they just let him go this morning. Assault and affray is a pretty serious charge, I wonder how the courst will deal with him if found guilty.

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Wenger splashing out ? Whatever next !!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...hay-Given.html

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Gerrardlol.

Lucky Villa yet again tonight.

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Might be joining his mate shields for a while by the sound of it.

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Hopefully the jury will be made up of man U and Chelsea fans, lol.

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well Lee Bowyer has been caught doing this before and nothing much happened to him.

lets wait until the full facts come out, it could just be a case of the other people being involved and he was jus at the scene

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

looks like Nottingham Forest may have a new boos soon :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...st/7805993.stm

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I think the biggest problem, that we fans have, is bad officals at games, we saw it with Steve Bennett, then we had Clattenburg, and with Steve Tanner, one of the worst decisions that l have seen in football, to officiate, they have to provide better officals, then some of the crap we have now.

There has to be consistance on each game from them, and you don't get it, and it no good, Premier League, saying that they are all top refs, but they are not, all the good ones are gone now, we even have Graham Poll working for Setanta, giving decisions, that how bad they are.

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If players didn't dive, foul, or try to cheat by any device possible then that would cure a far bigger problem than referees mistakes. Refs are only human.

I think that video replays should be used for all contentious decisions.

Jim.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Man Utd seal deal for Serbian duo

It was only last week Fergie was reported as saying there will be no signings in this transfer window. Smoke and mirrors from the master, yet again. ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

This has been in the pipeline for a while now, though.

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I heard he was lining up a move for Zoran Tosic, but hadn't heard about the other lad, Ljajic. But with Fergie recently saying they had no plans for any additions to the squad, thought he'd kicked the idea into touch. Or maybe he doesn't want City to outbid us again *cough Berbatov cough* :D

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I read about this deal the other month. It was already lined up for both players and hopefully if this Tosic lad is any good we will finally have a decent left winger this season

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The real question is, will he now feel the need to fork out £32 million for Tevez.;)

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The word on the terraces is the reason Liverpool FC are giving their 100% backing to Gerrard for punching that DJ is because what scouser would want to listen to "Working 9 til 5"?

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half time
Man City 0-2 (Tyson 37, Earnshaw 41) Nottm Forest

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City's going out with a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank, a billion in the bank..... :D :D

0-3 now :)

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Although, l am not a Liverpool fan, l am an admirer of Liverpool, but in my view, l don't think Gerrard should be playing, from the state of what he looks like, there could be some truth in what happened, but there again, Gerrard is a true ambassador of Liverpool, and should have kept too himself, and another thing, what was he doing out at that time in the morning.:)

---------- Post added at 21:06 ---------- Previous post was at 21:03 ----------

The Forest result, is the best result l have ever heard of, it goes to prove FA Cup magic is there, and also money can't buy you everything. Go on Forest.:)

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And who says footballers are thick

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-burglary.html

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I don;t know about being thick, but I know they can't drive!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7817764.stm

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Don't worry he'll get off any charges of careless driving, I'm sure he needed the toilet or was being chased by paparazzi ;)

Or maybe he was practising step-overs.....

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Benitez cracks and does a Wenger :D -

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...&in_page_id=43

What a twonk, losing the plot and it's only January...

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I dont think he's losing the plot myself. I don't like him myself, but as it says in the link, its a pretty controlled analysis.

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It wasn't a rant but it's obvious that what Ferguson said has got to him, so much so he even had a list of things he wanted to say criticising him, all Fergie said was that Liverpool might choke. It was like he was making up excuses already for if Liverpool fail to win the league. It even sounded like he was going to cry at one point lol

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Seemingly he was just given the slightest touch by the car behind him but somehow the car managed to flip over several times, roll along the ground and burst into flames before Ronaldo got out and pleaded with the traffic cops to arrest the driver of the car that brushed past him. ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I heard that he complained to the police that the wall wasn't ten yards away.:)

Jim.

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Just think, when Ronaldo went into that tunnel he tried to beat the wall, and went down, and tried to get a penalty, but as usual there wasn't a ref or Sir Alex in sight to complain too, pity about the car.

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Benitez's outburst has seemed to do Liverpool the world of good :D

Link


And hopefully the fa do something about the fat spanish waitor - Link

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I am totally behind Benitez for his outburst, Man Utd get away with murder, and the Premeir League and FA don't have the bottle, to do something about it, Who the hell does Fergie think he is, he has mouthed off to more officals than l can remember, and got away with it, Referee's, don't have the bottle to give out more red cards to players such as Rooney and Ronaldo, Ronaldo for exmaple commits more fouls than any other league player, you only have to blow on him and he falls over, Rooney shouts and commits more bad fouls behind the ref's back and gets away with it, and added minutes, In many of Man Utd games, they get MORE minutes ie 4/5 minutes than any other club, so well done to Rafa, We should have more Managers like him.

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:rofl:

Don't forget you hat Arthur!

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I'd hardly say Ronaldo is a dirty player, can you prove this statement that he commits more fouls than any other player ? Are there any opta stats to back this up ?

I don't think he does many fouls at all, diving is cheating and not a foul so that doesn't count. Drogba and Gerrard are just as bad at diving as Ronaldo and there are plenty of players that do fouls week in week out too

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Really?

1 Marouane Fellaini Everton 60
2 Kevin Davies Bolton 54
3 Papa Bouba Diop Portsmouth 46
4 Bobby Zamora Fulham 44
5 Carlton Cole West Ham 43
6 Lee Cattermole Wigan 40
7 Ricardo Fuller Stoke City 37
8 Kevin Nolan Bolton 35
9 Wilson Palacios Wigan 35
10 Gareth Barry Aston Villa 34
11 Stephen Ireland Man City 33
12 Jason Roberts Blackburn 33
13 Vincent Kompany Man City 32
14 Mamady Sidibe Stoke City 32
15 Shola Ameobi Newcastle 31
16 Valon Behrami West Ham 31
17 Tim Cahill Everton 31
18 Jermaine Jenas Tottenham 31
19 Gavin McCann Bolton 31
20 Roman Bednar WBA 29
[...]
289 Cristiano Ronaldo Man Utd 5

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Utd don't have a devil on it's badge just for aesthetics...we're evil and proud of it! :devsmoke: We are the cause of all your footballing problems and we can take your flak!

;) :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

A good article that proves both Benitez and your good self are ill informed.:p:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-Football.html

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Well done Rafa !

Today will be very interesting indeed.

No United player will dare go near the ref, the press cameras will be focused on Uniteds staff, any unsavoury behaviour by United will see Rafa's comments vindicated.

I think fergie better be stocked up with the Wrigleys, he will need them today to seal his loud mouth ;)

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It was indeed! All I hope is Rafa embarrasses himself like that more often, look at what the motivation did for us today :D

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Get that linesman, he flagged for Rooneys clever corner kick trick because Rooney didn't tell him what he was going to do, what a plonker of an official. :rolleyes:

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what annoys me about that is loads of times you see a player shielding the ball in front of a linesman so that they will get thr throw in only for the linesman to then flag and say he touched it last and give the throw in the other way. The linesman will never say anything to any players but now they want the players to start talking to them

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

It's not in the rules to tell the linesman your taking a corner, why should it be, he should be aware of whats going on and actually watch the match and whats happening with the ball. In this case it looks like the linesman wasn't doing his job properly and didn't see Rooney take the corner, so thought Giggs didn't take the corner correctly, therefore making the wrong decision and penalising a team for being creative. And Benitez says United get all the big decisions in their favour :rolleyes:

Anyway, a great performance from United today, totally outplayed Chelsea all over the pitch :)

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Lets clear up several points, Ronaldo, gets away with murder, and footie fans should realise that, I have seen Ronaldo go down in front of the ref, and wink if he has that decision, he is a typical con man, and l have watched him over several seasons. Rooney, today for example should have been sent off, for the foul and abusive language towards officials, sad to say, officals are too damn soft.

Players, like Rooney, Ronaldo, and Terry would not have five minutes in the days of Vinnie Jones etc, thats when footballers used to play football, instead of the silly rules we have today, and if you ever swore at a ref or lino, you were off.

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Yes, it is only Ronaldo who does this, isn't it? :rolleyes:

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Including those of us who have seen the evidence which kinda proves you wrong?

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Now I know that you really are on another planet when it comes to football, what utter drivel.

Vinnie Jones and football, what one earth have those two got in common. How can you use a talentless thug who's only notable contribution to football was grabbing Gazza's goolies as an example.

http://www.vg.no/uploaded/image/bild...660513_837.jpg

Jones was far to slow to have got anywhere near Ronaldo.

Jim.

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great win, now the title for united

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You must all be Man Utd supporters then. He wouldn't have survived with Chopper Harris.

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Isn't he a porn star?

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It may be your age,;) but you really don't know your hard men do you, Chopper Harris was another, kick in em the back, or tackle over the ball when the refs not looking exponent.

If you want hard men then look no further than Dave Mackay or Norman Hunter, they it gave to you full on, in the face, ( and in the groin, chest, thigh, shoulder ). :D

We used to have a player at United many years ago called Fitzpatrick, now he was an animal, a certifiable psycho if ever I saw one.:shocked:

Jim.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...781186,00.html

Fergie responds.

You'd think Rafa would know by now to not try mind games against the master of mind games.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Bloody Man U - all I wanted was a draw against Chelsea, just so we could savour third for a couple of days, but can you trust 'em? Nooooo!

:D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Ronaldo collects Fifa world title

Not playing anywhere near his form from last year, but well deserved, in my opinion.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Hi iadom, Now you are talking hardmen, this was when it was called football, not the football you have nowadays.

Football, these days, is too soft, the players are paid thousands of pounds a week, and play like fairies, that is why, they would not last five minutes, if the hardmen were around today.

I can just imagine Ronaldo, playing against Dave Mackay, Ronaldo would be flying out the ground, when he was going to dive in the box, on the end of Mackays boot.:)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

So you admire cheating behaviour then?

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No l don't, l believe in a fair game, but it is about time, officials cut out all the cheating from diving, and in a game l watched yesterday, a playuer went down for a foul, and he got up and waved a finger in gesture of giving the other player a booking, this is called ' unsporting behaviour' and is a booking offence, but did he get booked - no, you cannot have one rule for one, and one rule for another.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

So you'd be dead set against anyone (presumably including Ronaldo) getting fouled by Dave McKay?

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We are getting mixed up between HARD & DIRTY. Dave Mackay was never a dirty player but he was as hard as nails. If he managed to get a good tackle in on Ronaldo you can bet that Ronnie would go nowhere near him, ever again.;)

Now, Chopper Harris, Vinnie Jones, Graham Souness etc were just downright dirty players.

Jim.

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I have tonight seen the best cup tie, l have seen for ages, apart from the poor officals again, Bristol City against Portsmouth.

TWO blatant handballs by Portsmouth, one was a double hander, from Crouch, and the other was when the Portsmouth player pushed the ball away, when he was on the floor in the box -- well done City, you played well, its a pity that the officals, were not up to the job, and l don't support either side.

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100mill, £500.000 a week. This is getting stupid. :mad:

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totally agree stone, thats just 26mill a year he'll not survive on that.

He'll be the most well paid player in the world. but on the beeb gossip I heard he doesnt want to go to City as they dont win anything.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

So, Southend for the 4th round then? And it's on ITV1 too!!!! :D

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I have to say I'm finding rather satisfying that the blue half expected to sign the greatest players in the world and are erm....finding it slightly difficult so far :D

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Football, is being ruin by disgraceful bids for players, NO player is worth 100million, l don't give a monkies, who they are.

In this day and age, the most a player is worth, is about 15 million, but you have to include, the agents fee, and the club fee etc. I am sorry to say, at first l said that Chelsea were ruining the game, with silly fees, but that has now stopped, can you imagine, that IF does go to City, his wages are said to be about 250.000 per week, now who pays that, simple? the club puts the price up for fans, and bingo we pay in the end, absolutley disgusting.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

how much does it cost to watch a football match ???

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I think you'll find 500 grand a week is small change for City's new owners. They could probably pay the whole team that amount and not notice it going from their bank account. But as you say, no player is worth £100million and half a million a week, no matter how good they are.

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Papa smurf, When l started gooing to Tottenham, it cost me £8-00 to get into the terraces, l know this was a long time ago, But my son bought three tickets to go to the Wigan FA Cup game, it cost him £45.00 for each ticket, and that was for a poor view.

If you go to a grade one game ie Arsenal, Chelsea is can cost as much £60.00 each and that will be the cheapest.

It is about time the Football Supporters Association, say's to the Premier League enough is enough concerning the prices of going to a game.:(

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wow i had no idea it cost that kind of money- don't think i could afford to be a football fan.

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Wow that is pricey, maybe becuase it's a London club?

I went to old trafford recently a ticket for me cost £35 and i got two youth tickets for £10 each. I was quite happy to pay that amount.

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Its more to do with the number of seats than anything. With 75,000 available, you can sell them for less and still make more more per game than a 36,000-seater stadium. Its one reason for the push to get a new stadium.

Its not always as bad as Arthur said. I went to see Spurs v Wigan in the FA cup and the tickets cost me £20 each for adults in south lower. That was a special offer though. Normally I pay around £30-35/seat to sit in south lower, but they aren't premium games. If I want to sit in the west stand, then it does cost more (normally around £45+), especially around the centre line. The same goes for OT, i'm sure. Where were the £35 tickets you bought?

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They were East stand tier 2, so behind the goal. They are generally what you pay for any premier league tickets at OT, they range from £25 to £45 which is the most you will pay, apart from corporate. Most of the non season ticket areas where members get tickets are in the areas where they are about £35. Youth tickets where ever they are are £10 which i think is really good. The prices for other competitions are different though, i think carling cup and fa cup are cheaper and champions league games get progressively more expensive through the competition.

I think one of the worst things a club does, which i've heard a lot of mid to lower table clubs do, is charge extra for games against the bigger clubs. They claim it's because they lower the prices of tickets for smaller matches, but thats rubbish, they know that people will pay more for the big games and exploit them, thankfully they don't do this at OT.

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I don't think its much different charging more to see Man Utd, than it does to charge more to see Real Madrid in the CL. Anyway, how can Man Utd charge more to see bigger clubs in the EPL? There are no bigger clubs. Anyway, tickets ought to be cheap at OT, think of the fans travelling costs :p:

BTW, at WHL, the goals are in front of the north/south stands if that makes things a bit clearer.

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Though it is reported (bbc sports)

I'm a MCFC fan, have been all my life (but I am a mancunian unlike all the MUFC fans :p (I wonder if Russ will bite ;))) and personally I wonder if all this is just Robinho's threatening his usual "bring in my mates from Brazil otherwise I won't be happy and will leave" which has been reported before :(

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Ha! See? I knew you'd want me to de-lezz you one day!!! :D

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Oh dear, there goes that flying pig again.....

;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/03/38.gif

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But there are set prices already at OT for matches, so if we drew Real Madrid in the group stage of the Champions league, the ticket prices will be for the group stage of the champions league, not 'Big club ticket price'. I didn't mean bigger clubs, i meant big clubs, so the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and City. The prices for those games are the same as games against small clubs like spurs :p:

I can understand clubs charging slightly more when they play bigger clubs but i've heard of instances where they've doubled ticket prices in some cases which is wrong and those price increases are also for away fans. So if you support a big club and go to away games you pay more than if your a supporter of a smaller club and go to away games, how is that fair?

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

I've been a Man Utd fan since 1958 and live in the area.:cool:

In fact most Man City fans live in Stockport & Oldham.

Its also a fact that as a percentage, Man Utd have more season ticket holders living at Manchester postcode addresses than Man City.:p:

Bad news from Sir Alex..Rooney will be out for at least 3 weeks with a hamstring injury.:(

Jim.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Oh bloody 'ell Southend, you couldn't hang on to that 1-0 lead, couldya!

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Don't think I've seen those 3 words in the same sentence before. :D

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Its the same principal at work here. Spurs vs A*****l is more of a draw than Spurs vs West Brom. Likewise, a CL semi-final is more of a draw than 2nd round CC or a bog standard EPL match.

Its economics though as I said. Take it revenue per seat basis. If you have a 75,000 seater stadium, you can charge a small amount to fans and earn a large amount. If you have a 36,000 seater you have to charge more to try and level the playing field. If you are Wigan and only have 25k, its even harder. It all helps when you have to try and lure players to your club to compete with the likes of Ronaldo on 120k a week.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

From the BBC gossip pages...No idea as to the accuracy..

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More like Kaka was not intrested!!

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

You mean he wasn't interested in the wages...(hold on a mo whilst I try to stop laughing)

More likely though to be the reported get out clause his agent is trying to impose

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

The part that said 'if we get relegated' :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

It's not unusual for players to have a relegation release clause.

It just so happens there are lots of them with it at Man City :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

In that style of thread I wonder how many MU players have Ferguson retirement release clauses.....

:p:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Ah you misunderstand, they don't need them.

We're a decent team you see ;)

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Fergie retire!!! It would have to be a Fergie passes over to the other side clause. :D

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No your right, because City are a MASSIVE club ;) :D

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Just been reported from Sky Sports, that Man City have gone back in with ANOTHER bid, for - wait for it - 150 MILLION for Kaka, and this includes his wages.

This is sick, stupid and silly money to pay for a player.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

All it means is that Man City will take over from Chelski and Man Utd as the most hated club in the country. Everyone will want them to fall flat on their face. :rolleyes:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

The Football Association, must step in and stop this crazy deal, Man City are to be ashamed of this transfer, which now looks like to go ahead, what will happen now is that another player will go on the market, and say a crazy fee of say 175. million and City will go for that also, they will ruin football as it is, IF Spurs went in for a player of that value, and offered that sort of money, l would pack up football, as NO player is worth that sort of money, (we couldn't pay it anyway) l have criticised Ronaldo many times, but he is only worth approx 20 million in todays crazy world of football, l think Mark Hughes, should think long and hard before he goes to bed, and think of one thing tonight - the Fan, as he in the long run, will have to pay increased money to get into the ground, an absolute disgrace.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

The really funny bit about this is when Sparky comes on the TV and tries to convince us he is in control of this stupid spending splurge, yeh right.:rolleyes:

Look at the stats, Man City have scored 38 goals this season, only Chelski have scored more. They have however conceded 30, only four other teams have a poorer record.

So do they need Kaka, do they hell as like, they need a keeper, defenders & a strong tackling, holding midfielder, not another Brazilian who will soon get the stuffing knocked out of him in the Premiership.

Jim.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

It makes me laugh watching him defend the amount they are spending on one player and trying to tell us there's nothing wrong with it and it makes business and football sense!?!?

Yeah, you've just sat there, noded and said "yes please" haven't you sparky.

I can't wait to hear what Kaka will say if he joins, something about how it's nothing to do with the money, yeah right :rolleyes:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

That's right. It'll be all about "turning this club in to one of the best in the world" :rolleyes:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

It shouldn't be up to the FA as then English clubs will be disadvantaged against those on the continent. The Spanish FA didn't step in when Real spent 46m on Zidane and 30 odd on Figo so why should our FA now.

What should happen is that FIFA \ UEFA should introduce rules so that only clubs that weren't in debt are allowed into European competitions and then filter that down so the same rules apply for local leagues too.

Although that could mean my club being kicked out the league :dunce:

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

Heard on the radio about an hour ago that the liverpool echo are sitting on a big story line regarding the rafa contract talks, is said to be dramatic news, lets see what happens.

Re: Football : Season 08/09
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/7827052.stm

He wants Parry to stop meddling before accepting a new contract.