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handyman 23-01-2009 17:14

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34715187)
Oh, & I do miss the Sky Anytime Remote Record thing I had on the N95 though.

TV Plus - soo very good and it's free

Hugh 23-01-2009 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34720761)
You need to change the settings so it manually syncs and you choose what music to put on it.

I have my iPhone set up and working on my iMac and also Windows laptop, and have it set to manaully update my iPhone.

Tried that - I set up a playlist on iTunes with a subset of the music,
- clicked on my iPhone in "Devices"
- unclicked "sync only checked songs and videos"
- clicked "manually manage music and videos"
- clicked "Apply"

After clicking "Apply", I got the message
"The iPhone "xxxxxxx's iPhone" is synced with another iTunes library. Do you want to erase this iPhone and sync with this iTunes library?

An iPhone can only be synced with one iTunes library at a time. Erasing and syncing will replace the contents of this iPhone with the contents of this iTunes library."

I decided not to risk it.;)

Stephen 23-01-2009 17:31

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I've never had that message before.

My little bro also copies music from my iTunes to his iPod Nano that is sync'd to a different PC altogether and have never come across that message.

You might need to tick the box you unticked.

Hugh 23-01-2009 17:54

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34720785)
I've never had that message before.

My little bro also copies music from my iTunes to his iPod Nano that is sync'd to a different PC altogether and have never come across that message.

You might need to tick the box you unticked.

Tried that too - just got the same message (also tried ticking both boxes, same result).

i-Set 23-01-2009 21:46

re: The iPhone thread
 
ok just recieved it today, fast delivery :D

however problem - from the left side of the screen, there are three minor parts where there is some light leakage which can be seen in the dark but not so much in the light - my worry of course dust, water etc getting inside hence ruining the phone :( i paid £390 and as a student thats a lot.

so what now should I replace it for brand new one from o2 or is this to be expected from all iphones? have you guys got any leakage and by how much? - if it is then not good I tell you....

Tezcatlipoca 23-01-2009 22:26

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34720776)
TV Plus - soo very good and it's free

Cheers.

I ended up getting Tioti TV+. Not free, but still cheap & very good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by i-Set (Post 34720964)
ok just recieved it today, fast delivery :D

however problem - from the left side of the screen, there are three minor parts where there is some light leakage which can be seen in the dark but not so much in the light - my worry of course dust, water etc getting inside hence ruining the phone :( i paid £390 and as a student thats a lot.

so what now should I replace it for brand new one from o2 or is this to be expected from all iphones? have you guys got any leakage and by how much? - if it is then not good I tell you....


I've not noticed anything like that with my 13 day old iPhone - although your comments have made me take the air jacket off mine & stare at it in the dark to check lol.

Damien 23-01-2009 22:31

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i-Set (Post 34720964)
ok just recieved it today, fast delivery :D

however problem - from the left side of the screen, there are three minor parts where there is some light leakage which can be seen in the dark but not so much in the light - my worry of course dust, water etc getting inside hence ruining the phone :( i paid £390 and as a student thats a lot.

so what now should I replace it for brand new one from o2 or is this to be expected from all iphones? have you guys got any leakage and by how much? - if it is then not good I tell you....

It's not normal, Replace it. Do you have an Apple Store near you? If so, book an appointment and go see them.

Tezcatlipoca 23-01-2009 22:44

re: The iPhone thread
 
Question regarding charging an iPhone abroad...

Right, so the iPhone comes with the USB power adaptor thing, which has two parts:

1) The actual power adaptor, with the figure of 8 connector on one side & the USB port on the other.

2) UK plug adaptor to connect to the figure of 8 on the USB thing.


The main USB bit says it works with 100-240V & 50-60Hz, but the UK plug bit says only 250V & 50Hz.

So, I assume I can't simply whack a travel adaptor on the UK plug part, to make it a US plug?

As the USB adaptor bit itself is universal, can you buy a US plug for it on its own? Or do you have to spend ££££ buying the Apple travel kit which seems to come with every kind of plug imaginable?

Chris 23-01-2009 23:07

re: The iPhone thread
 
Is the UK plug simply a plug, or is it a transformer, or something else with electronics on board? If it's simply something that allows you to connect your USB cable to a wall socket, then it should be fine if you attach it to a travel adaptor and plug it into a US wall outlet.

TBH even if it does have electronics in it, you're unlikely to damage it by putting half the voltage through it that it's rated for. You would have to be more cautious if you were bringing US kit to the UK.

Tezcatlipoca 23-01-2009 23:34

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It's an official "iPod USB Power Adaptor".

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB...mco=MjE0ODcyNw

I think the UK plug part is just basically a UK plug, while the other part (with a connector for the plug on one side & a USB port for the iPod/iPhone's dock>USB cable on the other side) is I assume the actual AC adaptor.


Apple sell a collection of plugs to fit the unit that has the USB port on it.

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/M8...mco=MTIxODk3Mw

Bit pricey though when all I want is a US plug.


Although, thinking about it, Mrs D has a 3rd party iPod charger with dock connector at one end & 100-240V 50-60Hz AC adaptor UK plug at the other end - I'd guess it would definitely be OK to stick a US travel plug on the plug end of that.

i-Set 23-01-2009 23:49

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34721035)
I've not noticed anything like that with my 13 day old iPhone - although your comments have made me take the air jacket off mine & stare at it in the dark to check lol.

And whats the result?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34721042)
It's not normal, Replace it. Do you have an Apple Store near you? If so, book an appointment and go see them.

Damien like i said it only is visible when in the dark, its like three think rays of light coming through...I cant even see it in a normal room, but say at night it does pester me...I dont know maybe Im nit-picking too much...

I do have an apple store near me (bluewater), however I bought it from o2, but because I like apples customer service more, will apple replace the phone even though I bought off o2?

Damien 24-01-2009 00:00

re: The iPhone thread
 
Yeah, they will. It might be hard to show them as you suggest but I would recommend you try at least. You need to book in advance, and they are quite busy, but once you have a appointment then I find the Genius bar an excellent service.

Book an appointment here: http://www.apple.com/uk/retail/bluewater/ Where it says Genius Bar and Reserve. Direct link to the booking page: http://concierge.apple.com/store/R113

Lakeside also has a Apple Store: http://www.apple.com/uk/retail/lakeside/ Direct link: http://concierge.apple.com/store/R242

Tezcatlipoca 24-01-2009 00:02

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i-Set (Post 34721133)
And whats the result?

Still didn't notice anything.

And I'm a bit of a paranoid obsessive compulsive, so I *really* checked ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by i-Set (Post 34721133)
I do have an apple store near me (bluewater), however I bought it from o2, but because I like apples customer service more, will apple replace the phone even though I bought off o2?

You can go with either O2 or Apple.

As you bought it off O2, your contract is with them (the retailer) under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended), & it is their legal obligation to ensure that the goods are of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose, conform to contract etc.

http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/cons...page38311.html

But you also have a manufacturer's warranty with Apple, which is in addition to your statutory rights as a consumer. If you take the manufacturer's warranty route, I believe that you give up the right to later claim against the retailer for any subsequent faults.



When I got my old SE P900 off O2 way back in 2003 (I think), the first one was faulty. I just got it swapped out at the O2 shop.

Hugh 24-01-2009 01:20

re: The iPhone thread
 
Just checked mine in a dark room - no light leakage at all.

bopdude 24-01-2009 01:43

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34721122)
<snip>

The adaptor is just a pin config to connect to the power source of the country your in i.e UK as you've said, the Iphone will work on lower ( US ) voltage, so I would assume that a standard travel plug will suffice.

Tezcatlipoca 24-01-2009 02:16

re: The iPhone thread
 
Cheers :tu:

SMHarman 26-01-2009 18:23

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34721064)
Question regarding charging an iPhone abroad...

Right, so the iPhone comes with the USB power adaptor thing, which has two parts:

1) The actual power adaptor, with the figure of 8 connector on one side & the USB port on the other.

2) UK plug adaptor to connect to the figure of 8 on the USB thing.


The main USB bit says it works with 100-240V & 50-60Hz, but the UK plug bit says only 250V & 50Hz.

So, I assume I can't simply whack a travel adaptor on the UK plug part, to make it a US plug?

As the USB adaptor bit itself is universal, can you buy a US plug for it on its own? Or do you have to spend ££££ buying the Apple travel kit which seems to come with every kind of plug imaginable?

Yes your assumption is correct. Or you can get a US 2 pin (prong really) plug to figure of 8 cable and plug that into the iPod adapter in place of the UK plug bit.

Tezcatlipoca 29-01-2009 01:14

re: The iPhone thread
 
So I can't stick a US plug travel adaptor onto the UK plug part?


I may have a US plug / figure of 8 lead knocking around somewhere...hmm, actually, may be a US plug / "kettle" lead.


Oh well. The wife's 3rd party iPod charger should work I think. UK plug on it, but it's rated for 100-240V & 50-60Hz.

SMHarman 29-01-2009 15:54

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34724001)
So I can't stick a US plug travel adaptor onto the UK plug part?


I may have a US plug / figure of 8 lead knocking around somewhere...hmm, actually, may be a US plug / "kettle" lead.


Oh well. The wife's 3rd party iPod charger should work I think. UK plug on it, but it's rated for 100-240V & 50-60Hz.

Yes you can. I've been here over 2 years and still have a pile of things with travel adaptors stuck on the end of them. Mainly portable electronics with moulded 3pin transformers that are 100-250v 50-60hz compatible. iPod charger just like yours, bluetooth headset, cellphone charger (well my latest phone is a european spec k850i so that is a twin round pin to two blade).

I was highlighting the alternative as the travel plug > 3 pin > iPod charger is a long and end heavy collection of plugs and does not sit in the wall very well.

When my Apple AirPort Express bricked itself I pulled the adaptor off that and put it on my iPod charger. Much better.

i-Set 29-01-2009 20:44

re: The iPhone thread
 
Well I guess Iphone wasnt for me - the lack of buttons when texting made it difficult, 2mp camera, no video recording, I felt restricted in what I could do - I couldnt even choose an mp3 ringtone straight out the box - although one of the apps called Remote - now thats handy.

I have now gone for the c905 from cpw on o2 18 months - but have just seen a better deal from dialaphone on 12 month contract with vodafone, cashback deal. I think if more people went for 12 month contracts again and not 18 month contract o2 dictates to consumers then they might reconsider re-instating 12 month deals again?

I have heard there are slight problems with c905 but its fine with me as ill be going into a 12 month deal with origanl sony warranty :D - but yeah the Iphone was not for me, just had a nice interface thats all.

Russ 29-01-2009 20:46

re: The iPhone thread
 
G1, better camera, lots of buttons to press... ;)

SMHarman 29-01-2009 21:19

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i-Set (Post 34724353)
I have now gone for the c905 from cpw on o2 18 months
I have heard there are slight problems with c905 but its fine with me as ill be going into a 12 month deal with origanl sony warranty :D - but yeah the Iphone was not for me, just had a nice interface thats all.

Sadly SE have gone back to a lesser radio set for the c905
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900
EDGE
UMTS 2100
HSDPA

rather than the
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900
EDGE
UMTS 850
UMTS 1900
UMTS 2100
HSDPA
of the k850 otherwise it would be a no brainier.

That would be like going back to dial up for your home connection!

(As I'm in the US I need the UMTS 850 and 1900 for the AT&T network and UMTS 1700 if I were to switch to the TMobile network. 3G is such a frequency mess over here it is beyond a joke).

Tezcatlipoca 30-01-2009 00:24

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34724205)
Yes you can. I've been here over 2 years and still have a pile of things with travel adaptors stuck on the end of them. Mainly portable electronics with moulded 3pin transformers that are 100-250v 50-60hz compatible. iPod charger just like yours, bluetooth headset, cellphone charger (well my latest phone is a european spec k850i so that is a twin round pin to two blade).

I was highlighting the alternative as the travel plug > 3 pin > iPod charger is a long and end heavy collection of plugs and does not sit in the wall very well.

When my Apple AirPort Express bricked itself I pulled the adaptor off that and put it on my iPod charger. Much better.


Ah. I'd said "I assume I can't..." so was confused by you sounding positive but also saying my assumption was correct lol.

Good point though about the heavy collection of plugs... would make it even more chunky & heavy sticking a travel plug on the end...


I'll see if Wifey's iPod charger works, else I'll just get a 3rd party iPhone travel thing. The official Apple travel plug kit is rather pricey considering I'd only want the US plug, & maybe the European one.

punky 02-02-2009 00:12

re: The iPhone thread
 
Flash IS coming....

http://i.gizmodo.com/5143766/flash-o...r-tech-hurdles

Tezcatlipoca 02-02-2009 02:05

re: The iPhone thread
 
Ah, good find - I hope it doesn't take too long :)

Chris 02-02-2009 12:02

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34725954)

On a Hawkman rocket cycle? :D

/gets coat ...

Stuart 02-02-2009 12:50

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34725997)
Ah, good find - I hope it doesn't take too long :)

I wouldn't hold your breath. Adobe have been promising 64 bit versions of all their plugins since Windows XP 64 came out.

punky 03-02-2009 13:40

re: The iPhone thread
 
New iPhone coming in June apparently.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5145125/next+ge...-the-arabs-say

Tezcatlipoca 03-02-2009 23:26

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726785)
New iPhone coming in June apparently.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5145125/next+ge...-the-arabs-say


And a separate rumour to that one...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...iphone_21.html


Allegedly a much bigger jump than from original iPhone to iPhone 3G...


Hmm. Oh well, if it's true, I'll "only" have a year to wait on my current contract when it comes out. Arse, LOL.

haydnwalker 04-02-2009 15:13

re: The iPhone thread
 
My contract ends this October so I might upgrade if its got the features I want (ie A2DP and MMS) :)

handyman 04-02-2009 15:41

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 34727458)
My contract ends this October so I might upgrade if its got the features I want (ie A2DP and MMS) :)

I have mms on my iphone :)

It is a free download but you do have to pay to send mms.

However most of the time I send pictures via email anyway which is totally free.

Damien 04-02-2009 15:41

re: The iPhone thread
 
Hopefully O2 will do what they did last time and allow upgrades old iPhone users to exchange for them renewing their contract (and paying for the price of the handset of course)

Stuart 06-02-2009 14:24

re: The iPhone thread
 
Well, I went for the iPhone 16Gig in black.

Very nice phone. I like the way that the iPhone developers have embraced GPS in a way that Symbian Developers haven't. As an example. I have a couple of nice free apps that use GPS very well. One finds any Wifi hotspots near you (free or paid). Another allows you to stream broadcasts of local commercial radio stations.

In fact, they've done that with a lot of the iPhone features. The Accelerometer is put to good use in Google Earth (you tilt the phone to tilt the view).

I like the way that the software is integrated. For instace, the free Wifi finder above has a "map" option. When it's selected,the iPhone fires up Google Maps to show the local area.

There is stuff I don't like. Like, for instance, the need to "sync" music to just one itunes library, unless you hack all your other libraries to have the same signature. I can understand the limitations of syncing other stuff with multiple libraries (such as contacts and calendar entries), but why not offer the same freedom to use multiple libraries that the iPod classic does?

bopdude 07-02-2009 15:31

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34728689)
There is stuff I don't like. Like, for instance, the need to "sync" music to just one itunes library, unless you hack all your other libraries to have the same signature. I can understand the limitations of syncing other stuff with multiple libraries (such as contacts and calendar entries), but why not offer the same freedom to use multiple libraries that the iPod classic does?

I have all but given up on itunes for transferring files, I now use a prog called xplay 3, simple drag and drop :)

Tezcatlipoca 10-02-2009 02:30

re: The iPhone thread
 
Google Sync for iPhone -

http://www.google.com/mobile/apple/sync.html

Although you could already sync with Google Contacts, this lets you also sync with Google Calendar.





Also available for...

http://www.google.com/mobile/default/sync.html

# BlackBerry
# Nokia S60
# Nokia standard
# Sony Ericsson
# Windows Mobile




I'm not keen on Google Contacts myself - seems to demand everyone has an email address.

Calendar sync'ing would be good though...

Tezcatlipoca 11-02-2009 01:46

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34730888)
Google Sync for iPhone -

http://www.google.com/mobile/apple/sync.html

Although you could already sync with Google Contacts, this lets you also sync with Google Calendar.



No one else tried this yet?


I set it up tonight. Switched from Outlook Express for the Contacts, and nothing for the Calendar, to using Google for both (did require a couple of fake email addresses for my contacts that don't have one though).

Works well :)

Uses Exchange/ActiveSync for Contact & Calendar synchronisation - & Pushes updates to the phone (or back).


Now we just need Google to sort out Push & OTA sync'ing for Google Mail...

haydnwalker 11-02-2009 12:56

re: The iPhone thread
 
My GoogleMail pushes out to my iPhone OK?

---------- Post added at 11:56 ---------- Previous post was at 11:55 ----------

In fact it was the only account I got email working successfully with!

southwell 11-02-2009 13:29

re: The iPhone thread
 
I know both google and yahoo support push, not sure about others.

Stephen 11-02-2009 14:18

re: The iPhone thread
 
Are you sure google pushes?

I thought google only works when iPhone is set to fetch.

southwell 11-02-2009 14:32

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34731755)
Are you sure google pushes?

I thought google only works when iPhone is set to fetch.

Ah sorry, it's fetch, yes, i set it up on my mates Iphone. Yahoo definitely does push though.

Ive just read push works on google when you have it connected on WIFI, not 3G?

haydnwalker 11-02-2009 15:36

re: The iPhone thread
 
Oh right...sorry - I sort of thought it was the same thing... Fetch/Push...kinda does the same job? Gives me my email :)

Hugh 11-02-2009 15:41

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 34731806)
Oh right...sorry - I sort of thought it was the same thing... Fetch/Push...kinda does the same job? Gives me my email :)

Fetch - you request your updates (either scheduled or on request).
Push - they get sent to you when they arrive at the server.

Stuart 17-02-2009 11:19

re: The iPhone thread
 
Although they can appear (from the handset user's point of view) to be the same thing.

---------- Post added at 10:19 ---------- Previous post was at 10:09 ----------

Been looking around the app store. Some brlliant apps (both free and paid for).

So far I can recommend Jiwire's Wifi Finder, which uses GPS to determine your location and finds nearby WiFi hotspots. The database it uses isn't entirely up to date (it lists pubs in my home town that have been closed a while), but it is good if you want to find a WiFi Hotspot near.

I can also recommend Malcolm Barclay's TubeStatus which gives a quick list of any problems on any of the London Underground Lines (and DLR), and is free. Tube Deluxe is 59p and adds the ability to display a tube map, and find your nearest tube station using GPS and either the Tube map or Google Maps. Could be handy for those drunken nights out. Wish someone would do one for National rail.

The nearest I have found is iRail. This allows you to look up train times for any european overground railway network, and does the same thing as national rail's journey planner. Would still be nice to have the option to find your nearest station by GPS though. A few times, I have woken up on the train (whether drunk or just tired) out in the wilds of Kent or Surrey somewhere with no clue where I am..

Finally, Flixster allows you to look up films, look up upcoming DVDs, where your local cinema is (either by postcode or GPS), what is one there and go to the Cinema's website (assuming it has one) to book tickets).

Stuart 19-02-2009 16:04

re: The iPhone thread
 
Are you concerned that you haven't spent enough on your iPhone dock, despite having spent £700 on one with a valve amplifier? Want to spend more?

Howabout buying a car where you dock the iPhone and use it to start the car and control the electrics?

You may be able to soon: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02...zy_iphone_car/

Tezcatlipoca 19-02-2009 23:40

re: The iPhone thread
 
Hmm. Would be better if you could use the iPhone's accelerometer to steer the car, lol.

bopdude 20-02-2009 00:04

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34737072)
Hmm. Would be better if you could use the iPhone's accelerometer to steer the car, lol.

Ah but then you would get done for using a phone whilst driving :dozey: :p:

Stuart 22-02-2009 14:14

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34735350)
Although they can appear (from the handset user's point of view) to be the same thing.

---------- Post added at 10:19 ---------- Previous post was at 10:09 ----------

Been looking around the app store. Some brlliant apps (both free and paid for).

So far I can recommend Jiwire's Wifi Finder, which uses GPS to determine your location and finds nearby WiFi hotspots. The database it uses isn't entirely up to date (it lists pubs in my home town that have been closed a while), but it is good if you want to find a WiFi Hotspot near.

I can also recommend Malcolm Barclay's TubeStatus which gives a quick list of any problems on any of the London Underground Lines (and DLR), and is free. Tube Deluxe is 59p and adds the ability to display a tube map, and find your nearest tube station using GPS and either the Tube map or Google Maps. Could be handy for those drunken nights out. Wish someone would do one for National rail.

The nearest I have found is iRail. This allows you to look up train times for any european overground railway network, and does the same thing as national rail's journey planner. Would still be nice to have the option to find your nearest station by GPS though. A few times, I have woken up on the train (whether drunk or just tired) out in the wilds of Kent or Surrey somewhere with no clue where I am..

Finally, Flixster allows you to look up films, look up upcoming DVDs, where your local cinema is (either by postcode or GPS), what is one there and go to the Cinema's website (assuming it has one) to book tickets).

Couple of changes to the above. The new version of TubeDeluxe enables you to look up the next departures from your nearest Tube/DLR station (well, most of the lines).

Also, thanks to one of the Iphone ads, I found an app called "UrbanSpoon". This lets you look up reviews for restaurants in your area (or any area in London). You can specify any combination of the area, type of food and price range. You then click Shake (or shake the phone) and it'll find a restaurant for you. If you don't specify anything, it'll pick your local area and any type of food, and any price range.

Tezcatlipoca 17-03-2009 00:19

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34726785)
New iPhone coming in June apparently.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5145125/next+ge...-the-arabs-say

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34727159)
And a separate rumour to that one...

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...iphone_21.html


Allegedly a much bigger jump than from original iPhone to iPhone 3G...


Hmm. Oh well, if it's true, I'll "only" have a year to wait on my current contract when it comes out. Arse, LOL.


Further rumours...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03...ne_price_drop/

- O2 to allegedly slash the price in May.

- This is to clear stock in advance of the next model allegedly being launched in the summer.


-----------------------------------

And before that...

Apple will be talking about iPhone OS v3.0 on Tuesday.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10197342-37.html

So... anyone think there's any chance of cut & paste, MMS, better Bluetooth, etc.?

Damien 17-03-2009 09:54

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34754759)
Further rumours...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03...ne_price_drop/

- O2 to allegedly slash the price in May.

- This is to clear stock in advance of the next model allegedly being launched in the summer.


-----------------------------------

And before that...

Apple will be talking about iPhone OS v3.0 on Tuesday.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10197342-37.html

So... anyone think there's any chance of cut & paste, MMS, better Bluetooth, etc.?

Cut and Paste is meant to be coming at the very least from what I have heard..

haydnwalker 17-03-2009 12:51

re: The iPhone thread
 
Bluetooth A2DP and MMS are my 2 most wanted features, along with landscape keyboard for texting a close third. Makes the keys bigger cos I have large fingers! I'm always spelling wrongly in portrait!

By the time the new hardware comes out I'll be just about ready for renewing my contract :D

dilli-theclaw 17-03-2009 12:52

re: The iPhone thread
 
Dammit - I want an iPhone.

I have to make do with my cookie :(

Raistlin 17-03-2009 13:14

re: The iPhone thread
 
This is very good news for me. My current contract with Vodafone is up in June, if there's a new iPhone just around the corner I may wait for that to be released before getting one.

Damien 17-03-2009 19:14

re: The iPhone thread
 
Copy and paste has been confirmed.

By the way, these updates are for existing iPhones..

Stuart 17-03-2009 19:23

re: The iPhone thread
 
Well, they have live coverage of the keynote at http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...s-30-event.ars

Major points so far are
  • push alerts. Applications can use Apple's servers to push alerts on to user's screens.
  • Application access to Bluetooth and Dock. No word (yet) on improved bluetooth support for users, but Apps can use it to communicate with each other.
  • Embeddable Google Maps. Applications can now use maps directly.
  • An added API for turn by turn directions. This should help the likes of Tom Tom port applications to the iPhone. Doesn't sound like turn by turn directions will be part of Google Maps though.
  • Cut, Copy and Paste. Yep, the one killer feature for most is here. Apparently the way the iPhone does it is quite intelligent as well.
  • We also now have Spotlight on the iPhone.





---------- Post added at 18:23 ---------- Previous post was at 18:21 ----------

Yes! Stereo Bluetooth is supported! No word on whether remote control support is included though.

dilli-theclaw 17-03-2009 19:23

re: The iPhone thread
 
Hopefully this means I will (eventually) get copy / paste etc for my touch too.

Stuart 17-03-2009 19:55

re: The iPhone thread
 
Well, the keynote will be online at http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/ later.

Seems us lucky iPhone 3g users may also get MMS.

Damien 17-03-2009 21:13

re: The iPhone thread
 
Trying to get the developer build now but the site is going VERY SLOW and it is VERY ANNOYING

bopdude 17-03-2009 21:25

re: The iPhone thread
 
Any links for the download ?

Damien 17-03-2009 21:35

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34755468)
Any links for the download ?

I can provide them, when the site works and I can find em, but you need to be an Registered iPhone Developer to access.

bopdude 17-03-2009 21:40

re: The iPhone thread
 
Ah, that would be of no benefit then when are they going mainstream ?

Damien 17-03-2009 21:40

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34755481)
Ah, that would be of no benefit then when are they going mainstream ?

June, I think.

bopdude 17-03-2009 21:48

re: The iPhone thread
 
Thanks.

Damien 17-03-2009 22:11

re: The iPhone thread
 
Gah, It's not ready yet. "Later today" for Apple means "3am in the Morning" for me. I want it before I go to work tommorow.

haydnwalker 17-03-2009 22:19

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34755327)
Well, they have live coverage of the keynote at http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...s-30-event.ars

Major points so far are
  • push alerts. Applications can use Apple's servers to push alerts on to user's screens.
  • Application access to Bluetooth and Dock. No word (yet) on improved bluetooth support for users, but Apps can use it to communicate with each other.
  • Embeddable Google Maps. Applications can now use maps directly.
  • An added API for turn by turn directions. This should help the likes of Tom Tom port applications to the iPhone. Doesn't sound like turn by turn directions will be part of Google Maps though.
  • Cut, Copy and Paste. Yep, the one killer feature for most is here. Apparently the way the iPhone does it is quite intelligent as well.
  • We also now have Spotlight on the iPhone.





---------- Post added at 18:23 ---------- Previous post was at 18:21 ----------

Yes! Stereo Bluetooth is supported! No word on whether remote control support is included though.

FINALLY Apple have listened to users! I'm well impressed with the bluetooth stereo addition, it was the one thing that I NEEDED as I listen to music in the Gym and wires are annoying! Also means I can treadmill etc and talk :d

---------- Post added at 21:19 ---------- Previous post was at 21:16 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34755356)
Well, the keynote will be online at http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/ later.

Seems us lucky iPhone 3g users may also get MMS.

What I don't understand is why is MMS restricted to iPhone 3G users?? MMS doesn't require 3G for it to work, and would work perfectly well over EDGE/GPRS!!

I don't MMS Often but it would be useful for us iPhone Gen1 users.

Damien 17-03-2009 22:29

re: The iPhone thread
 
Woop downloading!

Tezcatlipoca 17-03-2009 22:43

re: The iPhone thread
 
Behold, innovative features such as... MMS, Copy & Paste, Bluetooth A2DP, & SMS forwarding! ;) :D

Heh. About time :)

Most of the other stuff sounds good too.


Personally, I don't give a monkey's about MMS. I rarely ever used it on any of my previous phones. But, it is still something that many many people use - more so than mobile email. And it's something present on even the most basic camera phone...

Copy & Paste, SMS forwarding, & landscape keyboard are my most anticipated features.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 34755503)
What I don't understand is why is MMS restricted to iPhone 3G users?? MMS doesn't require 3G for it to work, and would work perfectly well over EDGE/GPRS!!

I don't MMS Often but it would be useful for us iPhone Gen1 users.

Apparently the original iPhone doesn't have the right kind of radio chip.

Which still sounds a bit odd though...As you say, MMS doesn't need 3G, it works fine over plain old GPRS.


-------------------

v3.0 feature roundup:

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/03/17/iphon...ature-roundup/


Official link with info:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/preview-iphone-os/

bopdude 17-03-2009 23:54

re: The iPhone thread
 
Just read this on the foot of the official page

  • Some features and services may not be available in all areas.
  • * MMS messaging is available only on iPhone 3G; fees may apply. MMS may not be available in all areas.

WTF, fees might apply, like we're not paying enough, they introduce / make available what the phone should have ( nearly ) and then say pay for it. I might be looking around come contract renewal if that's the case.

Tezcatlipoca 18-03-2009 00:02

re: The iPhone thread
 
I took the "fees may apply" statement to mean something along the lines of "fees may apply depending on your cellular network provider", i.e. You can send MMS, but O2/AT&T/etc. may charge you whatever it is that they happen to charge.[So with O2, if it's like with any other phone or tariff, it would simply be 1 MMS = 4 SMS].

That's just an assumption, of course, but it makes sense to me. I can't see even Apple being so cheeky as to charge additional fees to use something such as MMS...I hope...

---------- Post added at 23:02 ---------- Previous post was at 23:00 ----------

Oh... an App question...

Does anyone have a favourite currency conversion app they'd recommend?

Doesn't need loads of features... just £<>$ & exchange rate updates.

bopdude 18-03-2009 09:07

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34755582)
So with O2, if it's like with any other phone or tariff, it would simply be 1 MMS = 4 SMS].

Mmmm, let's hope so, at worst.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34755582)
Oh... an App question...

Does anyone have a favourite currency conversion app they'd recommend?

Doesn't need loads of features... just £<>$ & exchange rate updates.

Not an app, but just google it, then at least your up to the minute :tu:

Damien 18-03-2009 09:55

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34755582)
I took the "fees may apply" statement to mean something along the lines of "fees may apply depending on your cellular network provider", i.e. You can send MMS, but O2/AT&T/etc. may charge you whatever it is that they happen to charge.[So with O2, if it's like with any other phone or tariff, it would simply be 1 MMS = 4 SMS].

That's just an assumption, of course, but it makes sense to me. I can't see even Apple being so cheeky as to charge additional fees to use something such as MMS...I hope...

---------- Post added at 23:02 ---------- Previous post was at 23:00 ----------

Oh... an App question...

Does anyone have a favourite currency conversion app they'd recommend?

Doesn't need loads of features... just £<>$ & exchange rate updates.

I use an app called Measures. It's a paid app and converts all sorts of measurements including currency. Might be a bit overkill for you tho.

---------- Post added at 08:55 ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 ----------

There are report of people sharing the iPhone 3.0 beta and non-developer phones refusing to activate on the AT&T network in America. So if your on the O2 contract, be wary of installing unofficial firmwires.

Stephen 18-03-2009 11:20

re: The iPhone thread
 
I am so happy that MMS and Copy & Paste is finally being added. Don't use MMS much but it'll be good being able to get the picture messages that other people always send me.

I like that shake to shuffle among other things is also coming. After all these new features including A2DP the iPhone will surely be the greatest phone, apart from the rubbish camera, lol.

Also I am sure the 'charges may apply' to mean that sending MMS may not be take from your inclusive allowance so the provider may charge and not that Apple will charge you!

Russ 18-03-2009 11:23

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34755769)
I like that shake to shuffle among other things is also coming.

I had that feature on my old SE W910i. The fun factor lasts for exactly 7 minutes....

Stephen 18-03-2009 12:17

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34755770)
I had that feature on my old SE W910i. The fun factor lasts for exactly 7 minutes....

Will mostly be useful if I am working out at the gym and have a playlist on and want to easily change the track without looking at the iPhone.

Also I have just noticed a couple of cracks appearing in the casing. Think its time to pop in to the apple store and see if they will replace it for me. It also has a habit of getting very hot and then the battery runs out really quickly.

haydnwalker 18-03-2009 21:40

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tuaw.com
Phone owners should note that A2DP technology and the use of MMS will not be available on 1st generation iPhones. This is probably due to the iPhone Bluetooth spec used, and Apple has confirmed (during the Q&A session after the keynote) that MMS is not available because of the cell radio used.

GRRRRR No A2DP EITHER FOR GEN 1 USERS!

I'm rather annoyed now (as you may have guessed)

Tezcatlipoca 18-03-2009 23:55

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 34756344)
GRRRRR No A2DP EITHER FOR GEN 1 USERS!

I'm rather annoyed now (as you may have guessed)

<Apple commands you to buy new hardware. Obey!>

---------- Post added at 22:55 ---------- Previous post was at 22:09 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34755513)
Woop downloading!

So... thoughts so far?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34755654)
Not an app, but just google it, then at least your up to the minute :tu:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34755671)
I use an app called Measures. It's a paid app and converts all sorts of measurements including currency. Might be a bit overkill for you tho.


I found one free option via Googling for app recommendations - use the built-in Yahoo Stocks app.

Hit the settings button (the "i"), then hit "+" to add a new stock, and use the following format to add an exchange rate rather than an actual stock:

<Three letter currency code 1><Three letter currency code 2>=X [but without the <>]

e.g. "USDGBP=X" gives how many £ you get for a $, while "GBPUSD=X" gives how many $ you get for a £.


I did actually end up buying Measures though after Damien's recommendation & the recommendation of someone on another forum.

I thought if I was going to pay for an app to do currency conversions, I may as well pay for one that converts everything. Bit overkill perhaps as you say Damien, but some of the other functions do look useful.

Damien 19-03-2009 22:58

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34756436)
So... thoughts so far?

Yup. Just found out they brought the NDA back. I think it just covers some of the APIs but there is little I have discovered that they did not already announce.

But my general impression is that it's good. The small things (search, landscape in e-mail and texting) are the best part. There are a lot of these small improvements all over the shop and they just make it an overall better experience without any one thing being 'wow'.

Tezcatlipoca 20-03-2009 01:20

re: The iPhone thread
 
NDA? Ah, LOL, to be expected I guess.

Still, sounds good from what you can say.

Damien 20-03-2009 09:58

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34757523)
NDA? Ah, LOL, to be expected I guess.

Still, sounds good from what you can say.

Yeah, Now I just hope Apple bring out a new iPhone with a better battery! Especially as they are focusing a lot on games and applications which are big drainers on the battery. I would like to be able to forget to charge it one night and not spend the day trying to avoid using it to prevent the battery running out. :rolleyes:

haydnwalker 20-03-2009 18:40

re: The iPhone thread
 
My Gen1 Battery lasts about 2-3days with moderate use (playing games, web etc) I don't really use it as a music player though - and now as Apple are apparently Anti-Gen1-Iphone I don't think i'll be using it due to lack of A2DP

Raistlin 20-03-2009 18:41

re: The iPhone thread
 
I want an iPhone :(

bopdude 20-03-2009 18:44

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 34758209)
I don't think i'll be using it due to lack of A2DP



Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob M (Post 34758212)
I want an iPhone :(

Have his /\ /\ /\ :D

Raistlin 20-03-2009 20:54

re: The iPhone thread
 
Great idea :D :D

Russ 24-03-2009 14:16

re: The iPhone thread
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...5875-21222455/

£600?? :eeek:

southwell 24-03-2009 14:33

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34761010)

Bargain.

Russ 24-03-2009 14:35

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by southwell (Post 34761033)
Bargain.

:nutter:

southwell 24-03-2009 14:37

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34761039)
:nutter:

:D
I would feel ripped off paying £59 for an expensive contract to be honest, let alone £600 just for a phone.

Russ 24-03-2009 14:47

re: The iPhone thread
 
If it was the soon-to-be new iphone then I'd be more inclined to pay that sort of amount for a sim-free version.

But £600 for a handset that's almost a year old...?

haydnwalker 24-03-2009 14:54

re: The iPhone thread
 
I paid £600 for my XDA Exec but I'd never pay £600 again.

Stephen 24-03-2009 15:22

re: The iPhone thread
 
well it is about £400 on Payg so that price is probably about right for a sim free smart phone.

Pushkar 25-03-2009 08:49

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34761082)
well it is about £400 on Payg so that price is probably about right for a sim free smart phone.

Jailbreak please!

On another note, has anyone had problems with 2.2.1 fw and Wifi?

punky 25-03-2009 09:35

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TaiLZ (Post 34761746)
Jailbreak please!

On another note, has anyone had problems with 2.2.1 fw and Wifi?

I haven't. (on an 1st gen jailbroken iPhone). What probs you having?

Speaking of which...The iPhone is great for web browsing, apps, games... but is actually stunningly poor at being a phone.

I have got an old iPhone free/cheap and its almost unusable as a phone. The ringer is upto max and I can barely hear it. I have no chance in my pocket or another room. Someone said use a louder custom ringtone. I have, it hasn't improved much. Also if you do miss a call or text, it doesn't signal you. So you have to keep checking your phone. That's rubbish IMO.

bopdude 25-03-2009 09:42

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34761758)
I haven't. (on an 1st gen jailbroken iPhone). What probs you having?

Speaking of which...The iPhone is great for web browsing, apps, games... but is actually stunningly poor at being a phone.

I have got an old iPhone free/cheap and its almost unusable as a phone. The ringer is upto max and I can barely hear it. I have no chance in my pocket or another room. Someone said use a louder custom ringtone. I have, it hasn't improved much. Also if you do miss a call or text, it doesn't signal you. So you have to keep checking your phone. That's rubbish IMO.

No problems here on the 3G, so far. Punky, I know exactly what you mean about ringtone volume, I do get one notification if I miss a text, my biggest gripe is the amount of times the phone rings ( 4 ) before it goes to voice mail ( which I use ) haven't found a solution to this yet, anyone ?

southwell 25-03-2009 10:11

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34761765)
No problems here on the 3G, so far. Punky, I know exactly what you mean about ringtone volume, I do get one notification if I miss a text, my biggest gripe is the amount of times the phone rings ( 4 ) before it goes to voice mail ( which I use ) haven't found a solution to this yet, anyone ?

I found this: http://www.everythingicafe.com/forum...ail-32191.html I'm not sure if it applies to UK phones though....

bopdude 25-03-2009 10:21

re: The iPhone thread
 
Worked nicely, thanks for that :tu:

southwell 25-03-2009 10:43

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34761791)
Worked nicely, thanks for that :tu:

Excellent. :D

Pushkar 25-03-2009 11:42

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34761758)
I haven't. (on an 1st gen jailbroken iPhone). What probs you having?

Speaking of which...The iPhone is great for web browsing, apps, games... but is actually stunningly poor at being a phone.

I have got an old iPhone free/cheap and its almost unusable as a phone. The ringer is upto max and I can barely hear it. I have no chance in my pocket or another room. Someone said use a louder custom ringtone. I have, it hasn't improved much. Also if you do miss a call or text, it doesn't signal you. So you have to keep checking your phone. That's rubbish IMO.

My Wifi doesn't work at all anymore, just have to use 3G for now until I pop in to the Apple store and get a replacement.

Damien 25-03-2009 12:14

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34761758)
I haven't. (on an 1st gen jailbroken iPhone). What probs you having?

Speaking of which...The iPhone is great for web browsing, apps, games... but is actually stunningly poor at being a phone.

I have got an old iPhone free/cheap and its almost unusable as a phone. The ringer is upto max and I can barely hear it. I have no chance in my pocket or another room. Someone said use a louder custom ringtone. I have, it hasn't improved much. Also if you do miss a call or text, it doesn't signal you. So you have to keep checking your phone. That's rubbish IMO.

It got better in the 3G iPhone I found, I suspect it may be because of the better, louder, speakers.

punky 25-03-2009 20:29

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TaiLZ (Post 34761850)
My Wifi doesn't work at all anymore, just have to use 3G for now until I pop in to the Apple store and get a replacement.

You aren't alone aparently.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/25/iphone_wifi/

haydnwalker 25-03-2009 20:54

re: The iPhone thread
 
My Gen1 iPhone has a similar issue - especially since the 2.2.1 upgrade, but I thought it was my signal. But it does intermittently drop back to EDGE/GPRS when wi-fi is enabled (the router is only in the next room, separated by a stud wall). I've repositioned the router with no problems, and I don't have connectivity problems on my laptop, which I use in the same place.

What do you think my chances are of getting a new iPhone? Its still (Just) within its year warranty... plus theres the whole "reasonable time" thing that you have the right to when asking for something fixed.

IE: When you buy a device (the iPhone a casing point), you could reasonably expect it to keep working once the warranty has run out and the vendor should attempt to rectify the issue providing its a reasonable time (don't expect them to do anything 2-3years down the line though...).

Pushkar 26-03-2009 16:06

re: The iPhone thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haydnwalker (Post 34762194)
My Gen1 iPhone has a similar issue - especially since the 2.2.1 upgrade, but I thought it was my signal. But it does intermittently drop back to EDGE/GPRS when wi-fi is enabled (the router is only in the next room, separated by a stud wall). I've repositioned the router with no problems, and I don't have connectivity problems on my laptop, which I use in the same place.

What do you think my chances are of getting a new iPhone? Its still (Just) within its year warranty... plus theres the whole "reasonable time" thing that you have the right to when asking for something fixed.

IE: When you buy a device (the iPhone a casing point), you could reasonably expect it to keep working once the warranty has run out and the vendor should attempt to rectify the issue providing its a reasonable time (don't expect them to do anything 2-3years down the line though...).

If your Wifi doesn't work then book a Genius appointment and get them to look at it, if it doesn't work then they will give you a new iphone (well refurb) although if your lucky and they don't stock 2G ones anymore, they might give you a 3G which is always a reason to go in and see if they will replace!


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