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I think the real question is, what did it achieve ?

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another 600,000 dead civilians. Blair & Bush should go on trial in the Hague. Same way we do to people that we don't like and think are terrorists, bet there's a fair few Iraqi's who feel the same way about B&B.

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Revenge for bush against "that man who tried to kill my daddy". Very little else except pain and misery for millions, bush and bliar are lucky they don't share the same botched, lynch mob fate.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...says-Bush.html

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I don't want to get involved in stupid argument regarding a person who was guilty of executing his OWN people.

Saddam Hussein, killed and maimed his own people. So therefore he was guilty of multiple murder. And was found guilty by a legal Court and sentenced to death.

And members are calling for Bush and Blair, to be tried. For what ?

They joined foces to bring down a dictator. And when he was caught, NOT in a house, NOT in the street. NOT in one of his mansion.

He was found in a DUGOUT, HIDDEN so that he couldn't be found. Put on trial. Found guilty. And sentenced to death.

When this happened, HIS OWN people jumped with jo. Surely, that tells you something.

ALL Countries, have a duty to protect those people across the globe, who cannot defend themselves.

In regards to Hitler, he was killed by one of his own.

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Um... let me think seeing as you aren't....

Engaging in a War on the belief that Saddam Hussein, held Weapons of Mass Destruction. Which was later revealed to be a massive lie, the only real reason was to bring regime change, thus, the war was considered an illegal act.

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Please, what sort of legal, legitimate court sentences someone to be dragged into a cellar in the middle of the night to a baying, ridiculing crowd to be hung, sounds more like a lynch mob to me and perhaps he did deserve all he got but let's not try and dress it up and try and legitimise it, the way it was done was how he'd have done things, are we or our new found allies no better than that?

Also protecting the Iraqi people was way down the list of rationales for war and was only wheeled out once all the other reasons, wmds, harbouring terrorists, thinking up 9 11 etc etc etc turned out to be bs and that might have been reasonable if he was still a threat to his people or neighbours but guess what he wasn't, had we acted earlier when he was massacring people and starting wars instead of selling him weapons I'd have supported it but all those people who died since gulf war 2 for what, so an old man could be thrown to a lynch mob, so bliar could lord it up on the international stage and pocket fortunes on the back of it or so one man could have a bit of revenge and sod the consequences

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Well in fairness saddam did have chemical and biological weapons and we knew he did as we sold him a good amount of them while we were keeping him on side in the seventies and eighties. Yes he deserved his fate but bush and blair both got off scot free for their lying to legislative bodies and creation of documents they knew were full of bs they initiated an illegal war and are directly responsible for all fatalities that occurred during that war and it's aftermath.

They highlighted the utter hypocrisy and badly thought out planning of western foreign policy with Iraq and that has still not been fixed we're still screwing up massively supposedly doing the right thing while doing nothing but destabilising various nations and creating thousands more recruits for the likes of isis.

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I don't criticise Blair for bringing down Saddam Hussein. He was a clear and present danger. What I blame him and Bush for is not having a proper plan in place for managing the peace and bringing proper democracy and stability to the country.

Had they done this and worked quickly to fix the crumbling infrastructure of the country, Iraqi citizens would be singing our praises by now.

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Saddam wasn't a clear and present danger to anyone outside his own borders. The policy of containing him after Gulf War 1 worked. Gulf War 2 was a hillbilly blood feud initiated by George Bush Jr, who believed he had to tidy up his father's unfinished business. The result of going out to "get" Saddam (and the plan had no more finesse than that) has made the entire Middle East an extremely dangerous place for us as well as those that live there. George Bush is directly responsible for this, aided and abetted by the man who gave him a moral figleaf, namely a certain Anthony Charles Lynton Blair, former prime minister of this parish.

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... and former Middle East Peace Envoy. :rolleyes:

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According to amnesty international he wasn't even a significant threat to his own people anymore when we acted.

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So he did not attack Iran, Kuwait then... next Saudi Arabia?

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The thing is that by the time Bush and Bliar decided to try illegal* regime change he was not a threat to other middle east nations or anybody else.

*International law forbids declaring war with the aim of toppling governments. however odious.

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Yeah, right! The liberal politically correct lot getting it totally wrong. Again.

And let's not worry too much about his sons!

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Remind me was that the politically correct amnesty international who were the only ones speaking out when we were selling him weapons, chemical and otherwise to use on his and others people when he was a significant threat to his people and everyone in the region and amnesty weren't the ones who were taken in by the lies bush and his cronies told, unlike for instance our own leader, if you haven't realised that after all this time perhaps it's best you just stick to the future of linear tv

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In our world, we have loads of dictators that should be overthrown. And disposed off. But then we have do gooders that believe that we should bring them to justice.

But then how many people of the justice system re corrupt in foreign lands.

Its like we have our own Soldiers wo are doing a job. Yet, get penalised any years later. The UK and other countries in the Alliance operate those countries in need. We give that help. Should be criticised for carrying out that role. No we should not.

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What are you on and how does this relate to my comment? Incidentally, I was never in favour of selling weapons to Saddam Hussein. He was always a dangerous maniac with little consideration for life.

One of his sons was ten times worse, and was making threats about what he wanted to do to the western world.

If you think, based on no weapons of mass destruction having been found, that this man wasn't dangerous, perhaps it's time to unsew your eyelids and take the plugs from your ears. Assuming you don't also have a peg on your nose, try smelling the coffee as you awake.

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Oh no the nasty man was making threats, I don't recall seeing that on George's list of rationales for war/ invasion, it should've been as it is no less ludicrous than what was already on there and it's not only me that was saying he wasn't dangerous but the cia, our own foreign office and the actual Chilcote enquiry except instead of dangerous they use grown up terms like significant threat.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...android-h3g-gb

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There are far more pressing issues going on in the world than going on about someone who is now worm food so get over it. What is done is done

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I'm sure those words will bring solace to all those that have died because of this bs including a lot of British soldiers, bit surprised you have just dismissed it in such a blasé what's done is done fashion

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There is nothing we can do that will bring back those who have given there lives. We will never be able to bring the likes of Blair and Bush to court to be tried for taking us in to an illegal war. So we might as well get on with life and hope we never see this happen again whilst remembering those who fell. Dont get me wrong i would love to see Blair and Bush be dealt with but the truth is it will never happen.

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It is true that bush and Blair etc almost certainly won't get their just deserts but if someone speaks out whenever someone else tries to claim what they did was a good thing at least the actions that led to so much death and misery won't be legitimised (even if it is only for that conversation), it doesn't stop anyone getting on with life and imo it's the least we can do.

Good to see you're still about btw