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Tricky 31-08-2004 21:04
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denial
Ok have run various programs to see what is being run on 'Satrtup' nothing is listed which is related to Outlook Express.
It might not actually be in startup - It could be in the registry - 3 keys to check are RUN, RUNONCE and RUNONCEEX

These exist under HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion

There are also similar keys under: HKCU

Richard M 31-08-2004 21:30
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky
Nice little feature in sp2:

Additional commands on netstat including -b which show open connections to your machine...Run it after boot up and you'll see the windows update (if it's running) address. Also show the executable - Good for spotting spyware I thinks

Sorry might have already been mentioned.!?
Thanks for that. :)

denial 31-08-2004 21:31
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky
It might not actually be in startup - It could be in the registry - 3 keys to check are RUN, RUNONCE and RUNONCEEX

These exist under HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion

There are also similar keys under: HKCU
Checked all of the above, no entry for OE

denial 31-08-2004 21:40
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Raised the issue with Microsoft Support, got a response from someone there, who sadly couldnââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t even spell 'Out lok'.

She said

'It's a known issue, contact the Out lok team because they will probably have a fix or patch, I look forward to hearing from you.' !!!

Currently waiting for her to tell me what the 'Out Lok' team is :D, but perhaps they will come up with the goods

Maggy 05-09-2004 21:11
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Having read quite a few XP SP2 issues across the board now I'm wondering if I should even bother?It seems to have caused so many problems for lots of people.Has SP2 been extensively tested at all?

Which brings me to this question.How does one become a beta tester for M$ and how long do they beta test each product?

After all if one is going to have bugs with the full product perhaps one might as well beta test instead.Or are we all beta testing for M$ but they make us pay for the privilige?

Incog. :)

Tezcatlipoca 05-09-2004 21:25
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Heh, I still haven't bothered with SP2.

Don't really see the point, at the moment.

Maggy 05-09-2004 21:34
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
It might be nice if anyone who has issues with XP and SP2 could come back and say if they have resolved the problem and how they did so. ;)


Incog. :)

denial 05-09-2004 21:36
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Well I have still not found a resolution to my SP2 and OE issue, the official advice of Microsoft is to either remove the service pack or remove OE and use an alternative email program. Not really a satisfactory solution but for the time being, it is goodbye Outlook Express...no big loss though!!

Tezcatlipoca 05-09-2004 21:42
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denial
Not really a satisfactory solution but for the time being, it is goodbye Outlook Express...no big loss though!!
Have you tried Thunderbird?

http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

denial 05-09-2004 21:50
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D
Cheers for the link, heard some good things about it, but have never used Thunderbird †“ definitely going to give it a go now.

ZrByte 06-09-2004 01:49
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
It might be nice if anyone who has issues with XP and SP2 could come back and say if they have resolved the problem and how they did so. ;)


Incog. :)
The only way around the issues I have had have been to disable the asociated services (Nameley Windows Zero Config for wireless, and the security center service).

newbie 06-09-2004 06:32
Windows XP & SP2
 
At work we have been stopped from installing XP Service Pack 2 because "there is a performance issue".

Does anyone know if this is correct, and if it is - Will it have the same impact if I install it on my home PC?

Thanks.

Paul K 06-09-2004 07:24
Re: Windows XP & SP2
 
Seen none here :confused: Are the PCs at work branded models? Maybe your workplace is running certain applications which SP2 isn't fully compatible with yet??

Electrolyte01 06-09-2004 09:53
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I had to turn off security center on my notebook since it kept pestering me about automatic updates. To shut it of just look in your services, should be in there some where ;)

SMHarman 06-09-2004 10:19
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZrByte
The only way around the issues I have had have been to disable the asociated services (Nameley Windows Zero Config for wireless, and the security center service).
Isn't that most of the SP2 improvements?

newbie 06-09-2004 10:39
Re: Windows XP & SP2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
Seen none here :confused: Are the PCs at work branded models? Maybe your workplace is running certain applications which SP2 isn't fully compatible with yet??
The "concern" from our IT Dept is that the additional security features will have a performance impact - Is this valid?

Thanks,

Mal 06-09-2004 10:46
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I had to remove sp2 as it wouldn't let me use my printer. :grind: Went back to sp1 and it works fine. I reinstalled the stuff for the printer and no joy. Nothing on the Canon website for a fix.

Maggy 06-09-2004 10:57
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D
But it is crazy! To not be able to use an M$ product with an M$ product is crazy!One could understand if there were conflicts with other software but not between M$ software. :confused:

How the heck did Beta testing not show this one up?

Oh a thought occurs to me.Was SP2 even tested?

SMHarman 06-09-2004 11:25
Re: Windows XP & SP2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newbie
The "concern" from our IT Dept is that the additional security features will have a performance impact - Is this valid?

Thanks,
Possibly, they will also be testing it with all applications in use in the firm, possibly running into the hundreds.

Also being a corporate environment, they are likely to have hardware firewalls, corporate level AV, enterprise level spam trapping. Most of the SP2 enhancements seem to be aimed at those that plug their PCs ethernet socket straight into the internet through DSL or Cable with no thought as to the vunerability this creates. Hopefully this does not occur in the corporate environment.

ZrByte 06-09-2004 15:26
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHarman
Isn't that most of the SP2 improvements?
Whats your Point?? :D ;)

SMHarman 06-09-2004 15:29
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZrByte
Whats your Point?? :D ;)
My point is whats the point if you install SP2 and turn off the new bits, may as well stay with SP1 :D

MadGamer 06-09-2004 17:24
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
But it is crazy! To not be able to use an M$ product with an M$ product is crazy!One could understand if there were conflicts with other software but not between M$ software. :confused:

How the heck did Beta testing not show this one up?

Oh a thought occurs to me.Was SP2 even tested?
My NAV 2002 Pro isnt compatible either!

andygrif 07-09-2004 10:22
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I've had a couple of interesting issues since upgrading one of my PCs....

The mouse now likes to move on its own from time to time and GetRight 4.5...when you right click on a link to download, it opens a blank page in Internet Explorer. Not biggies, but a little irritating.

Any ideas?

Tricky 08-09-2004 07:36
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Are you ready for the 12-04-2005?

Quote:
Based on customer feedback, Microsoft has changed the date on which Automatic Updates (AU) and Windows Update (WU) will deliver Windows XP SP2 regardless of the presence of the blocking mechanism. This change will provide customers a greater window of time to enable them to plan and deploy Windows XP SP2.

AU and WU will now continue to honor the blocking mechanism that prevents the offering of Windows XP SP2 until Tuesday 12 April 2005. Beginning on Tuesday 12 April 2005 AU and WU will deliver SP2 regardless of the presence of the blocking mechanism. Note that this is also the scheduled day for a monthly cumulative security update.

The tool to block the download of Windows XP Service Pack 2 via AU and WU is available at: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...ntain/sp2aumng.
mspx

MadGamer 08-09-2004 08:12
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky
Are you ready for the 12-04-2005?
We already have SP2 though.

Maggy 08-09-2004 09:58
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky
Are you ready for the 12-04-2005?
Well perhaps by that time they will have a patch or two to solve some people's present problems included in the update.

Mal 08-09-2004 10:49
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne A
We already have SP2 though.
Is that the royal "we"? ;)

"We" got rid of SP2 last Saturday as it and my printer took an immediate dislike to each other. So I hope that I can get a fix before next April.

Bifta 08-09-2004 11:27
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
Is that the royal "we"? ;)

"We" got rid of SP2 last Saturday as it and my printer took an immediate dislike to each other. So I hope that I can get a fix before next April.
If not, just turn off automatic updates ;)

ZrByte 08-09-2004 12:14
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Ive also found it screws up my bluetooth, Nice one Microsoft :mad:

Bifta 08-09-2004 12:33
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZrByte
Ive also found it screws up my bluetooth, Nice one Microsoft :mad:
Did the same for me, however, I followed the guide on here and Bluetooth is working perfectly now

http://www.jonsguides.com/bluetooth/index.html

Ramrod 08-09-2004 12:34
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I'm not touching it with a bargepole yet :dozey:

Scrubbs 08-09-2004 13:21
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I just installed it (sp2) today....I did have a couple of problems, one of them being I can either have zone alarm or xp firewall, not both
and my haupgage card went back to it's original settings, reset them and thats ok
which should I run zone alarm firewall or xp's?

Paul K 08-09-2004 13:26
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Zone Alarm gives you inbound and outbound monitoring so you might be better off running that :)

Scrubbs 08-09-2004 13:30
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
Zone Alarm gives you inbound and outbound monitoring so you might be better off running that :)
thanks M8 :)

I'll run with xp for now to see if there is any difference? apparently zone alarm does slow the machine down a little? or have a wrongly read a thread somewhere?

ZrByte 08-09-2004 20:01
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bifta
Did the same for me, however, I followed the guide on here and Bluetooth is working perfectly now

http://www.jonsguides.com/bluetooth/index.html
Thank you, havent had chance to go through that link properly yet but it looks like there might be hope of me getting my PDA working with Windows without having to format and revert back to sp1.

iadom 12-09-2004 16:14
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Installed SP2 this morning, download and install smooth as silk. XP firewall was already turned off in XP1 and to my surprise XP2 did not turn it back on by default. I have left the XP firewall turned off.

The Security Centre (English spelling) reports that my AV (Command from Authentium), and Firewall ( ZA Pro) are working correctly.
No problems ATM.

iadom 12-09-2004 18:56
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
For the ubertechs amongst you, here is an application and mitigation compatability tool from M$ for XP2
http://short.zen.co.uk/?id=95

yorkiex 13-09-2004 01:42
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
ive installed sp2 but its stoped me from downloadin of a few sites even when i say to allow it to downlaod. ive been wondering what the prob is for months but still dont know. And yes ive clicked the yellow bar that appears and said yes to the download

paulyoung666 14-09-2004 21:06
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
i have just bit the bullet and so far it seems ok , the box boots up a damned sight faster and everything seems ok , time will tell i suppose :erm: :D :D :D

swoop101 14-09-2004 21:18
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andygrif

The mouse now likes to move on its own from time to time

Any ideas?
I get that as well, thought it was just me though.

I also have a problem with NERO since sp2, when I click on an audio file after dragging it into the burn window to edit it, the program just freezes. Still trying to fix it.



edit: woot 1000 posts at last :D

MetaWraith 14-09-2004 23:30
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Nero is one of the progs that is on the list of applications needs to be upgraded to full compatability with SP2

swoop101 15-09-2004 05:28
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I am using the latest version, but it still won't work. :mad:

Lord Nikon 15-09-2004 21:02
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Using Nero 6.3.1.20 here, Ultra edition, and no problems.

swoop101 15-09-2004 21:31
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Nikon
Using Nero 6.3.1.20 here, Ultra edition, and no problems.
same version here, i am awaiting tech support from nero.

paulyoung666 16-09-2004 19:32
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
not sure if anyone has posted this yet , the latest edition of pcpro has a copy of xpsp2 on it , it might save some ppl a big download :tu:

Shaun 16-09-2004 19:42
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I'm having real trouble with my APC power-chute software!!! :mad: It keeps using HUGE amounts of virtual memory, if I leave my PC on overnight it just crashes it. I've even done a clean install of XP and it still does it.

I can't find anything about it on the net, I guess I'll just have to wait for a new version to be released :(

Maggy 16-09-2004 20:37
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulyoung666
not sure if anyone has posted this yet , the latest edition of pcpro has a copy of xpsp2 on it , it might save some ppl a big download :tu:
Got that but I'm still going to wait until all bugs are discovered.No make that until MOST bugs are discovered. :)

greencreeper 16-09-2004 21:10
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
Got that but I'm still going to wait until all bugs are discovered.No make that until MOST bugs are discovered. :)
Wise move. I said that SP2 would be more trouble than it's worth, but oh no - no one agreed with me. Now look. You'll get no sympathy from me :no:

:p:

jamesclarke555 17-09-2004 14:11
Critical Update for Windows XP (KB885626)
 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Quote:
This non-security critical update helps resolve an issue where a limited number of systems running a BIOS without production support for Intel Pentium 4 and Intel Celeron D processors based on Prescott C-0 stepping can potentially hang on Windows XP Service Pack 2 installation. After you install this update, you may have to restart your computer.

Ramrod 17-09-2004 14:15
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
Got that but I'm still going to wait until all bugs are discovered.No make that until MOST bugs are discovered. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by greencreeper
Wise move. I said that SP2 would be more trouble than it's worth, but oh no - no one agreed with me. Now look. You'll get no sympathy from me :no:

:p:
:tu:

jamesclarke555 17-09-2004 14:22
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greencreeper
Wise move. I said that SP2 would be more trouble than it's worth, but oh no - no one agreed with me. Now look. You'll get no sympathy from me :no:

:p:
If implemented properly, SP2 is awesome. By this I mean, I would only recommend SP2 to be slipstreamed and freshly installed with Windows XP tbh.

SMHarman 17-09-2004 14:44
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesclarke555
If implemented properly, SP2 is awesome. By this I mean, I would only recommend SP2 to be slipstreamed and freshly installed with Windows XP tbh.
:dunce: [on] OK what is slipstreaming :dunce: [off]

jamesclarke555 17-09-2004 14:45
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHarman
:dunce: [on] OK what is slipstreaming :dunce: [off]
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...501#post297501 ;)

TigaSefi 17-09-2004 14:54
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Have to say that SP2 works far better on a brand new system than an old one. If possible install it brand new slap on SP2 then continue as normal.

macuser_e7 17-09-2004 16:23
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
The Register's review of XP Home with SP2 is here.

Its conclusion:

SP2 does a lot 'under the hood' so to speak, to make Windows more resistant to exploitation, and this is to be commended. However, it does little to address the fundamentally insecure Windows setup, which pretty well trumps the former accomplishment. A simplified and hardened Windows system will be nicely enhanced by SP2. But the average Windows system will not even be touched by this effort: it remains leaky, almost incomprehensible to its owners, except those served by professional admins.

Windows remains too difficult for the average person to administer, and therefore profoundly unsafe on the internet.

paulyoung666 17-09-2004 16:26
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
i must be lucky then , i installed it on a system that has beeen running for at least 6 months and it is working perfectly , the odd time i reboot it , it boots far faster than xpsp1 ever did :tu:

KevAmiga 27-09-2004 12:24
Windows XP SP2
 
My Advice :

STAY AWAY FROM IT


(and yes, my XP is a legal copy). Just installed SP2 - Killed my PC! OS wont load, hangs on the GUI 1st screen. Tryed a System restore - Failed. Gave up - formatted HDD - reinstalled windows XP

OK, so now i thought fresh install, lets get SP2.

Installed OK, Rebooted , tried to get online - Nothing!

IP adress 169.xxx.xxx.xxx. Unable to get an IP adress from modem OR router.

Thankfully a System restore worked so now i can begin copying my 22gb of .ogg files :-)

- edit

And no, im not going to install SP2

MSCONFIG > Services > Automatic Updates > OFF!

Jon M 27-09-2004 12:27
Re: Windows XP SP2
 
There are several reasons why SP2 is a good idea, especially if you're not a technically literate user. All of which have been covered in previous SP2 threads.

KevAmiga 27-09-2004 12:29
Re: Windows XP SP2
 
Indeed, if you can get it to work thats great! Im hearing a lot of "sad stories" about it tho...

Sorry, i did look for a SP2 thread but didnt find any, maybe i should look further than the front page :D

SMHarman 27-09-2004 12:32
Re: Windows XP SP2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by s1lv3r
There are several reasons why SP2 is a good idea, especially if you're not a technically literate user. All of which have been covered in previous SP2 threads.
Indeed, I've pushed my parents PC onto it, even though I won't do mine, less 45 min tech calls to me on a Sunday!
My laptop upgraded perfectly though.

Jon M 27-09-2004 12:35
Re: Windows XP SP2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevAmiga
Sorry, i did look for a SP2 thread but didnt find any, maybe i should look further than the front page :D
How about on the main menu where it says "search" ;)

Chris 27-09-2004 12:37
Re: Windows XP SP2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by s1lv3r
How about on the main menu where it says "search" ;)
Indeed. :dozey:

Merged with the main SP2 discussion thread, which I found in about 10 seconds flat... ;)

greencreeper 28-09-2004 18:39
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
Try searching for XP though :no:

Bifta 28-09-2004 19:02
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
I don't suppose anyone has heard anything about the whole IIS install problem? (i.e. it won't install if you use a slipstreamed version of XP with SP2)

moonraker 01-10-2004 14:57
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
hi all, just a couple of small probs after installins SP2 today.

........ my video editing application wont work properly 'cos it can't find ' MSVCRTD.dll ' any advice?
also MSMessengers little green man that lives on my taskbar
used to take me to my Hotmail in-box.... it now takes me to my O/Express inbox..... anyone know how I can fix this...
cheers all.................. moonraker

MadGamer 01-10-2004 21:52
Re: Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here!
 
i would like to address the problem to you. Im running XP with SP2 installed, and when i go to shut fown there are other users logged on. In total there are 3 accounts on the pc. Now when they are all logged on and i decide to shut down, the logoff sound plays three times. When i had SP1 and they were all logged on the sound only played once.

Is there anyway i can fix this?


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