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maybe that rumour isnt too far fetched ...... well, this IS ntl :angel:..... |
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**goes off to put big boots on to stamp on all these rumours** on the other hand, if come june the 8th i am proved wrong then i am :nworthy: |
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I'll hold judgement until june the 8th, but theres a strong possibility that you are correct, hell, you work for ntl and know whats going on, hehehe.
I dont mind either way, but, the upgrades have got to start sometime, and it would be handy if NTL set a TARGET date for them to be completed by(save disasters like the MD's tea being made incorrectly), least then we know the latest possible date for the upgrades to take place, come on ntl, customer releations isnt always your strongest point, but still, please just tell us when? :P |
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the end of this week romour I find hard to believe because it took telewest more then a week from start to end and ntl are worse then telewest. I also agree ntl should release a date it might show there is some organisation in ntl which I find no evidence of at the moment.
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BBking because it is a target and shows customers you are commited to doing it, just saying late summer gives them time to be slow about it and delay it.
monkeybreath I disagree, there are many companies out there that show targets to the public and when they fail to meet them quite rightly the top person responsible loses their job, simply keeping the targets hidden away doesnt do anyone any good, it kind of ruins the points of even having targets. |
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hmm, Im clutcdhing at straws here, but after being given a date of june the 8th (see above, not me personally but a friend from northampton, who is also listed here) for my area to be upgraded, and then this gets posted on the ntl service page :
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I am sort of hoping them saying nottingham means leicester as well but it probably doesnt :(
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This is normally stuff like router software upgrades - I doubt it is the speed changes. (but you can always hope ;))
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the maintenance has happened, still 1mbit.
don't know what they did but it caused my ip address to be changed. |
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I *think* it was a dhcp server upgrade, which would explain the IP change. I know it's hot today, but the calendar is scarcely late summer, so don't get your hopes up just yet.
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I was hoping I would use it before I downgrade, as I am downgrading in 2 days at the start of the price rise month.
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Summer hasn't started yet, late summer is a while away yet. :)
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anyway... we all know that is not going to happen for a good couple of months yet!! |
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Its only a config file update 3 months (including time already waiting) is an aweful long time to achieve such a simple change.
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Speed increase can be anytime until october, when bst officially ends.
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We are waiting NTL...... :)
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British Summer Time has nothing to do with Summer. Spring is March 21st to June 20th. Summer begins on June 21st. |
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did they actualy state which year this late summer would be in???
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so it "should" be done by the end of september! :dozey: |
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Let's not forget that Telewest have already done their upgrades-& finished them two weeks early.....:rolleyes:
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wow i'm in stoke hope i do get upgraded soon, i'm on 600k atm so 750k isn't going to be much extra but it shows ntl care.
i might give the 1.5meg ago over the summer, is it 256k up for 1meg? as live would be a bit better then i guess. |
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So i take it you would have liked them not to have done it so you have even more to hate them about. I say thank you NTL at least they are giving something back. Ok it is later than telewest but they are doing it. I can see it now if they had not annouced it there would have been hell to play and you would have been at the top of the list :). |
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If certain ntl employees are right, & it was TW that copied ntl's idea of increasing speeds, then how on earth did TW manage to get it done 2 weeks ahead of schedule? |
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Whichever way you look at it, ntl have made a mess of it. Either way-TW customers have their speed increase, & ntl's is 'coming soon' :angel: |
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:angel: Has anyone defined which summer yet:LOL:
All that was said was summer, sounds a bit like the free dial up original areas had it but ex cwc did not. Digital tv ex cwc yes original no |
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Neil - where was it said ntl were planning speed upgrades before TW and copied it? I'm quite willing to applaud TW for being in the vanguard of high speed internet access in the UK, and am not surprised they got things done first, having a smaller network. Given the amount of work I *know* needs to be done and which you, I contend, don't, announcing a fairly vague period rather than an exact date is perfectly reasonable, particularly as it's likely to be a staged rollout. In a perfect world I could do it with a snap of my fingers, but this isn't a perfect world. The other alternatives are not to announce anything (as tried in London) for which we get slated, to announce unreasonable timescales (for which we get slated, and rightly). Damned if we do, damned if we don't. Or are you just cheesed off that you ditched ntl shortly before they increased broadband speeds? When are BT upgrading my 512k ADSL line to 750k for no extra fee? Am I thinking of getting a nice TW CM? You betcha. |
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Glad you agree with this free dial up original areas had it but ex cwc did not.;) |
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hmm excuses.
TW have a smaller network but lets get things into proportion here. Announcement made, 2 weeks later TW upgraded = 14 days, for sake of argument lets say summer from 21 june to sometime in sept, middle date 1 August = 90 days. So ntl's network is over 5x as big as TW? Am I talking rubbish? yes Is this rubbish also? DHCP upgrades (for speed upgrade?) Training (5 mins in staff meeting) Thousands of config files (done in bulk) Education (for what exactly?) Billing (so it says 1.5 instead of 1meg service and even if this was wrong it doesnt matter as its free upgrade and what you charged counts, either way its probably just 1 change in a database) Capacity Calculations (this should have been done before announcement) Checking if modems work (yes mine works :) not sure what you meant by this) Updating UBR's (its just a config file :) ) |
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Capacity Calculations (this should have been done before announcement)
Is this true they did something without seeing if it would work, sounds like the old NTL management are still about . Is bill :disturbd: goodland back again :Peaceman: |
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Ah well - still no speed increase... cant. Maybe they meant late summer when they've taken the extra £3 off all of us for the 3 months or so.
Grrrr... The £3 rise should av come into effect when the increase went to 1.5mb not before - thats one reason ive gone back to 600k, as i believe have loads of others. Only NTL losing out it looks like - bunch of biffs. |
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The £3 rise is nothing to do with the speed increase and only NTL know why they have made that price increase, others can only guess. |
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2. It is not summer yet, it is still spring until June 21st. 3. The price rise is not related to the speed increase and never was. Edit: Damn, beaten by Ian - but you get the picture now .... |
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I know the price increase wasnt anything to do with the increase in speed. They said it was to keep inline with the competition... u can get adsl 1mb for £30 now... so they have infact raised it beyond the competition. Yes we can all compare prices to BT but why should we - bt's prices are one of the highest in the uk for 1mbit adsl. Hence i said they should av raised the price when we get our 50% increase - it would av been a fairer rise and would not av resulted in hell of a lot of people stepping down to 600k - which it would appear has happened. |
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How lame r u guys - make 1 mistake and ur quick to reply and point out the error - infact 2 replies within 10 mins.... make a valid comment about how stupid ntl have been with regard to their price increase - and - nothing, nada, zilch...
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We all have a choice some are unable to get other options so are stuck with whatever NTL do to their package. Others have freedom to move over to ADSL unless every customer actually made an attempt to join forces and show NTL customers have had enough nothing will change. Thats life they take we give they can keep asking for more but sooner or later teh customer will reach a limit and reduce what ever services they have from NTL.. |
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You know if you are not happy you can always complain, am happy to wait.
I am Last in the Q now if Bill gets his way ;) |
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we all know ntl said late summer, I am asking why they saying late summer when Telewest can do it in 2 weeks, and if neil is right then NTL need some serious surgery because this is just complete inefficiency.
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I don't think that it would have mattered what NTL said about when it would be done, someone would have complained about the timing.
Don't forget that NTL are doing other things as well as increasing BB speeds such as CR3, MR2, Mail system upgrades, Harmony, etc. It isn't the end of the world because we have to wait a little. |
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How fast Telewest may have done it completely irrelevant - thet are a seperate, smaller company, with a much smaller network. Some of the network inherited by NTL is creaking at the seems and needs work and money spending on it before it can happen. Upgrades do not happen overnight. New ubr's do not just pop up in days. |
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Im sure the majority of NTL customers know nothing about this speed upgrade (Heck I found out in the independent, Id much rather be told by my supplier than a newspaper), so basically, they havent announced much at all. Customer relations, (on a national level, not on a personal one) from Ntl is appaling, they seem to be incompetant at ANY positive PR exersize,and this is a prime example, If it wasnt for that fact that Telewest wasnt a rival to NTL, TW would be laughing by now..... |
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You're asking a techie to comment on marketing people - the usual view of us anoraks is that they have a loose grasp of how any technical system works and need things explained very carefully using short words to avoid scaring. However, one has to recognise that someone outside the daily grind might have a better overall view than someone like me down among the muck and bullets.
I'm sure there will be more announcements though, there's enough feverish activity. In fact there's so much work going on on the network for a variety of projects it's hard keeping up. |
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Isnt the fact that we are stuck with ntl for cable in certain areas classed as a monopoly ? Might ask that question at some monopolies community somewhere - see if it cant be raised.... I want to live here in this house but i want telewest to be my cable provider - admittedly smaller than NTL but hell of a lot more efficient at what they do. Much the same as the likes of BT used to be the only telephone provider... they had their monoploy and that soon got ripped apart - look at em now :disturbd:
Imagine how many NTL customers would swop to telewest if they were given the chance.... Hmmm 1mbit BB for £37.99 or 1.5mbit for £35... think i'll swop now :) |
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Surely the fact that there is only one cable company in each area comes down to tachnical restrictions. If so, it is not an example of one company holding their products back from another. And the prices differences, although I'm not happy with them are just an example of a company making the most of their situation (whether that's good or bad). Quote:
Like you say, if nothing had been announced, people would have been complaining at ntl for not doing anything to keep up with TW. But then when you do announce something, those same people still seem to have to find something to complain about, so they start complaining about how long it's taking. These people should remember, right or wrong, there is only one cable company in each area, meaning ntl are under no real obligation to make any speed increases at all (although admittedly, they must still rival ADSL). Be happy with what you've got - the speed increases WILL happen. Browneggsandham :) |
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Just to expand a bit more - NTL are doing a mass of network upgrades and re-segmentations over the next few months in preperation [part of] this speed increase. Remember that most of NTL's customers are on the 150k service which is being doubled to 300k - this cannot be achieved without this preperation work. I understand that many new ubr's are going to be installed (this figure could be 50 or more). :cool:
Other work is also proposed but I can't go into detail yet (to protect the innocent ;)) One thing to remember about Telewest is that they didn't upgrade everyone - as I recall, TW customers with BB via STB's missed out on the higher speed increases. |
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You lot remind me of my kids when they were small and couldn't wait for Easter,Christmas,school holidays and the end of any car journey.
Just go and do something else for a while to get your mind off this issue and before you know it...you will still be waiting. Try to chill out and enjoy the great weather that has been our summer thus far and before long it will be September.THEN if there has been no upgrade complain bitterly. We are dealing with NTL here so you should be used to the waiting game by now ;) Incog. |
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I rang up today to downgrade and noticed 2 things.
1 - NTL advertising during the wait was advertising 150kbit as HIGH speed broadband. 2 - For the first time when I am downgrading I was asked why I was downgrading, which is funny because I was hoping they would ask, so I told them my view that I wasn't happy with the price rise for only 1 tier and as I dont desperatly need the top tier the downgrade was half protest and half cost saving as I was also stretching myself at 34.99, she then went on to say I would only be getting half the speed etc. (again first time they said this) so I just replied well I may upgrade again in the future if I decide to, this ended it and she proceeded with the downgraded. After the call I do feel a bit gutted I have downgraded but end of the day I am saving 13 a month and I rarely upload if things change at NTL with their polocies concerning the tier's I may reupgrade sometime in the future but until then who knows. |
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If people were more honest to NTL and just say that they were ****ed off with paying more for the same service with an upgrade maybe at somepoint in the future, maybe midsummer or late summer or perhaps before christamas or even easter or maybe never.............They would get the message.
If we tell them that it is due to the fact that it is a protest but i never really needed it anyway as I never download or upload that much.............Then surley NTL will think that we do NOT want faster speeds and we get stuck with the crap slow speeds we have now!!!! If you downgrade tell them straight!!!! You do NOT like the price hike and the SLIGHT possibility of a speed hike in the far future. Also metion that ADSL is now twice as fast as their 1MB service in some areas and only £2 more for a totally UNCAPPED line. Maybe then they will sit up and take notice!! |
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[QUOTE=Chrysalis]I rang up today to downgrade and noticed 2 things.
1 - NTL advertising during the wait was advertising 150kbit as HIGH speed broadband. 2 - For the first time when I am downgrading I was asked why I was downgrading, which is funny because I was hoping they would ask, so I told them my view that I wasn't happy with the price rise for only 1 tier and as I dont desperatly need the top tier the downgrade was half protest and half cost saving as I was also stretching myself at 34.99, she then went on to say I would only be getting half the speed etc. (again first time they said this) so I just replied well I may upgrade again in the future if I decide to, this ended it and she proceeded with the downgraded. After the call I do feel a bit gutted I have downgraded but end of the day I am saving 13 a month and I rarely upload if things change at NTL with their polocies concerning the tier's I may reupgrade sometime in the future but until then who knows.[/QUOT Only getting half the speed? what was she talking about? Mind you, when do you get your full speed anyway? I went from 1mb to 600k, havent noticed a vast difference. Apart from my bank balance each month, more money to spend on cd's.;) |
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from justanothernoob quote new cm files not been distributed yet.
So I am guessing they are done but we just need NTL to distribute them over the network so modem's can login with the new speeds :D come on NTL |
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You missed out on a great offer my friend - i rang up a while back and said this:
I wish to Cancel Cable modem ive had for 4 Years with the said one months notice. Now they proceeded as if they were gonna cut me off, then as if by magic, we can offer you half price for 3 months - just so happens this is a deal if your a new customer by the way. Now i pay Less than you for 3 months and im still Getting 1 mbit / 256 as before. After the 3 months (which i suspect will be the time the speeds will increase) then i will call Yet again and cancel - they either offer me another deal (which i doubt) or i go across to the dark side... |
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I used ADSL for a year, and personally could never imagine going back.
CM is so much better. More consistent speed, "true" always on, none of this "you're too far to get the higher speed" (I can't get 1mb ADSL where I am), or "you're outside London/Birmingham/Manchester so you can't get 1mb at the lowest price" malarchy. None of this hunting for the best price ISP (1 ISP that has a low price, but also a low bandwith quota, another with a high price, but higher bandwith quota), I like the one choice. 1mb, 55mb webspace, 10mb mailbox does me perfectly at £37.99. People like choice, personally, choice just makes things complicated. |
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Punky - I guess cos if they're changing the rates/speeds people are on, they'll want to reflect it on the bill - so people are bing charged for "1 x 750k broadband" it will appear properly on the bill. If they do that after the bills system is united into one, then they only have to change it once, meaning there'd be much less chance of it going wrong!
Other thing might be if all the techies are working on moving the bills systems together they wont be able to work on any problems the speed increases would bring up... |
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There is a lot going on within NTL at the moment besides Harmony. I would imagine that CR3 rollout is keeping many Associates busy.
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i understand why it could take a while to upgrade, but how did blueyonder do it so quick and easy?
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i think it's because the telewest network is in a far better condition than the ntl one. plus, telewests network is 1/2 the size as ntl's.
and telewest seem to be far more efficient than ntl at doing anything, and are very quick to make changes. :) |
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during a phonecall to ntl today i asked if they knew when we'd get the speed upgrade, after asking another staff member he came back with the 1stof july or the first week of july :D
so more like early summer than late summer (just hope he was right) |
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What I'm wondering is will we get official comfirmation?And how?
Because if it is by email.......Some of us will still be still waiting in September. ;) |
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This has prob already been answered and i appolagize but what will happen to the stb users, as every1 knows stb are crap for speeds of 1mb/s and higher so 1.5mb/s will be a joke to all stb users
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Yorkiex - if your STB is the cause of your slow speeds, you could always ask them to pop round and install a seperate cable modem, that should fix it :)
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Great site and my first post!
The info in this post also very good. i'll be keeping an eye on this topic for sure;) |
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Yorkiex I have asked NTL about this as I get BB through an STB, they have said there will be no problems with the speed increase as the latest software has sorted the problem out with the 4000 boxes and the faster BB speeds....I had a 4000 awhile ago and had it changed for a 2000 stb which thankfully has given me no trouble with BB
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i haven't read through the thread's 40 pages, so apologies if this has been posted already...
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