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papa smurf 22-12-2010 17:05

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35141807)
am i watching the right video ? 14.04 is talking about kettling with the student union leader ,nothing at all mentioned about officers not wearing numbers

its at the very end of the vid -as the session closes

Sparkle 22-12-2010 17:12

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35141724)
Well students are no longer rioting in London..Can we leave the issue now?

I don't think this is the end, it looks more like the beginning :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...-movement.html

martyh 22-12-2010 17:31

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35141808)
its at the very end of the vid -as the session closes

aaah gotcha ,cheers papa :) that would be 01:08:15 then if watched in wmp

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Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 35141809)
I don't think this is the end, it looks more like the beginning :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...-movement.html


Not at all .What makes the unions think that there working membership have the willing to go on strike losing hundreds if not thousands of pounds in wages ,losing their houses or getting in areas with the mortgage ,not having the annual getaway all for students who arguably don't have a case anyway

Derek 22-12-2010 17:47

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 
Ah yes 14:04 going by the time code on the video, not 14 minutes in. It's right at the very end of the session.

Sparkle 22-12-2010 17:48

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35141814)
Not at all

History will tell. ;)


More "appalling" police behavior being reported in the news :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/de...olice-watchdog

Hugh 22-12-2010 17:54

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 
The winners write the history books......;)

papa smurf 22-12-2010 17:56

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35141825)
The winners write the history books......;)

its all fiction then ;)

Sparkle 22-12-2010 18:02

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35141825)
The winners write the history books......;)

We won't be needing biased history books to explain what happened because we'll be living it during our lifetime, kapish?

By your smug tone, you sound like you're hoping the politicians win this one, is that right?

Flyboy 22-12-2010 18:27

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35141786)
At 14:04 minutes the numbers issue is covered.

At 14:04 they are discussing kettling, not shoulder numbers.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35141808)
its at the very end of the vid -as the session closes

Hardly concrete evidence really. He doesn't seem to know for sure, then changes his mind.

papa smurf 22-12-2010 18:35

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35141837)
At 14:04 they are discussing kettling, not shoulder numbers.

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Hardly concrete evidence really. He doesn't seem to know for sure, then changes his mind.



http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...n-page-58.html

that was my conclusion

martyh 22-12-2010 18:39

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 
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Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 35141823)
History will tell. ;)


More "appalling" police behavior being reported in the news :
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/de...olice-watchdog


Whats appalling about that ? all i see is a heavily edited poor quality video of rioters in a kettle .What the students need to realise i sthat measures such as these would not be needed if they could be trusted to act like mature adults and not smash the place up

papa smurf 22-12-2010 18:42

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35141850)
Whats appalling about that ? all i see is a heavily edited poor quality video of rioters in a kettle .What the students need to realise i sthat measures such as these would not be needed if they could be trusted to act like mature adults and not smash the place up

does that apply to politicians as well ??

Hugh 22-12-2010 18:53

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Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 35141828)
We won't be needing biased history books to explain what happened because we'll be living it during our lifetime, kapish?

By your smug tone, you sound like you're hoping the politicians win this one, is that right?

Assumption is the mother of all frakk-ups.....;)

"Biased history books" - those that don't agree with your viewpoint (and it's actually "capisce").:D

I actually work in the Higher Education sector, have two offspring undertaking HE (one 1st year and one post-grad) and I think what the Government is doing is detrimental, but I also think that the ongoing expansion is unaffordable, so it is a bit of a quandary:confused:

But what I do hope is that the rioters don't win this one - there we do differ.

papa smurf 22-12-2010 18:58

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35141857)
Assumption is the mother of all frakk-ups.....;)

"Biased history books" - those that don't agree with your viewpoint (and it's actually "capisce").:D

I actually work in the Higher Education sector, have two offspring undertaking HE (one 1st year and one post-grad) and I think what the Government is doing is detrimental, but I also think that the ongoing expansion is unaffordable, so it is a bit of a quandary:confused:

But what I do hope is that the rioters don't win this one - there we do differ.

and what of the peaceful students do you hope they dont win this one ??

Hugh 22-12-2010 19:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35141859)
and what of the peaceful students do you hope they dont win this one ??

I am not sure if there is a "win" - just less losing.....

Sometimes, in life, we don't all get what we want (or feel we deserve) - we get what we can afford.

As I said, I am in a quandary, as I don't think it is simple as either "side" make out - the present expansion is unaffordable (imho), but I think the raising of fees will discourage some students who before would have taken part in the widening participation of HE.


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