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There are very few subjects that convine people to spend money on TV than sport, VM will easily sell more XL subs with sport offerings than without.

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Blimey, just read BT's site properly and it's £19.99 for the first month and then £23.99 from month two if you want it all in HD. Oh and a £15.00 activation fee! :Yikes:

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In my opinion they are just as greedy as Sky and sooner rather then later that golden egg is going to crack IMHO.

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Completely agree Den, I think they're pricing themselves out of the market.

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I understand the non football fans views but the xl package has shot up over the last couple of years. I'm not convinced that bt sport being taken out of xl would

1) give us any savings
2) give us any extra channels

Virgin media seem hell bent on increasing prices with no extra services so I can't see them turning around and saying "bt sport has gone muppetman here's a tenner off your bill every month" "or here's Sky Atlantic instead"

What I can see happening is virgin media being quizzed on what they're doing with the savings on BT and a shrug of their shoulders "don't know what you mean... Costs etc... New fibres wa wa"

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With competition getting hotter and hotter there is no way any company would be able to shrug their shoulders and just carry on regardless Vince as they will simply lose customers to their rivals.

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Agree with Vince that the XL pack will NOT go down by one penny with BT sport out of it but I think it will remain in there with or without Europe which may come at a premium (as most things to do with Europe do!).....

F1 ownership likely to chamge
 

I wonder if the likely change of ownership could see a future shift on F1 rights to companies aligned to Qatari interests and away from Sky Sports?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/for...-5bn-deal.html

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Hello there

Have signed up this morning after browsing the forum over the past few months.

I'd like to get peoples opinion on whether beIN Sports will launch in the UK in the near future? Reason I ask this is because they are expanding over Europe (Spain & Turkey) after launching in North America and Australia.

Also I have been in contact with sports media people over twitter and a couple are certain they will launch in the UK as they now have offices based in london.

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Well there was a rumour that BeIn Sports were 'the other bidder' when the last PL rights were up for grabs. The only way they would launch here is if they got the rights to some decent sports, Sky and BT have those tied up for a few years yet. Sky have most of the streaming rights for this country as well.

I can't see it happening TBH, i just think the sports rights in this country are just to expensive for a 3rd player to come in.

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Could it be a case of investing in a sports network (Sky, Premier Sports or BT) like the way BT did to ESPN?

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Espn where looking for an exit strategy in The UK but still had some decent rights in the bag, BT came along just at the right time for them, I don't see Sky and BT taking on partners.

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One of the posts on this link suggests AMC channel maybe included on Sky for BT Sports pack customers.
https://community.bt.com/t5/YouView-...T/td-p/1495490

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Sky, Liberty Global renew F1 interest?

http://advanced-television.com/2015/...w-f1-interest/

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BBC dealt another blow after losing control of TV rights for Olympics.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...very-eurosport

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Interesting read Den - Shame when It boils down to money.,

Personally I doubt anyone will beat the BBC for its coverage of the last Olympics - every single sport shown live and all with zero advertising.

Eurosport has an ad break every few minutes at the best of times !

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Yes its a shame that we are getting into a situation where sport will totally disappear from FTA platforms.

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Maybe Eurosport will use Quest sometimes.

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The BBC is a dinosaur and so is the licence fee! Maybe this will at last wake them up to the fact that the world has moved on and they no longer are the only tv channel provider in this country. The only option if the BBC want to survive and indeed compete for viewers is to scrap the old fashioned licence fee,become a subscription and advert carrying channel. I know peole don`t like adverts but it is the only way forward as far as I`m concerned. The BBC has been `freeloadng` for far to long now. I rarely ever agree with this government or it`s MP`S but I`m totally behind them on their call for the licence fee being scrapped.

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Absolutely and totally disagree, but that's the beauty of this forum. !

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Totally agree, the BBC needs a reality check.

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I don't want this thread to turn into the validity of the Licence Fee but if the BBC was a private company it would be a lot more streamlined than it is now.

I would rather a hatchet man came in to cut costs, it would mean redundancies, than the output being the first thing to get cut.
It's always the same with councils/public companies, instead of looking at the structure it's the services that get cut.

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Someone on DS forum raised an interesting question on this , I wonder if we could see more sporting rights being sold on a Pan European basis.

Liberty Global and Sky have already extended their European footprint and surely there would be more incentive for the likes of Eurosport to take a look being that they have their channel all over Europe.

I understand many people have said it won't happen owing to the rights holders making more money by selling on a country by country basis but it will be interesting development to watch.

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Well if a company held the pan european rights and didn't have a local broadcaster in a country and did it themselves then under EU rules i should be able to subscribe to the same service in the cheapest country that offers the same thing? I can't see a company charging, say, Poland the same price that they'd charge here.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.

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Plus 1

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There's speculation the BBC could also soon lose the Six Nations Rugby.

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at this rate Eastenders must be under threat

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Please, pretty please, pretty please with bells on. :D

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These are ominous foreboding times for the BBC and it will get worse.

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Just checked the Now TV website and a Sky Sports day pass seems to be £6.99 at the moment. Not sure if that is a temporary price or the new price going forward.

Would this be a feasible alternative to VM Sky Sports sub? I probably only watch 2 or 3 games a month so would be cheaper, just concerned about PQ and high demand games not being watchable.

Has anyone got any experience of this?

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Why not try it on this day on the free pass and decide for yourself.

http://www1.skysports.com/cricket/ne...ports-day-pass

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It wouldn't. The independent PwC reports shows it to be very efficient when compared to its peers both in the UK and overseas.
Overheads in charities and public sector: 11.2%
Overheads in regulated private companies: 8.8%
BBC: 7.6%
Source: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/abouttheb...ncy_review.pdf

Meanwhile, seasoned media commentator mlt11 on Digital Spy summarises the forces driving TV sports rights and has predicted that the BBC will show most of the Olympics including the key bits and that a Premier League-owned channel is likely.

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Thanks Muppetman, I've just taken a punt on a Now TV box from Amazon, got it on a lightning deal, £13.99 with two SS day passes, offer still available for another hour or so if anyone else is interested

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Is that the old white Now TV box or the new one?

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There are many issues with the bbc but it has to be said they got London 2012 spot on. Makes you wonder how they managed to make such a mess of the jubilee or this year's Wimbledon highlights, but that's another story. If we are to have a public service broadcaster funded in this way then it should be the natural home for events such as the Olympics. But the way I read that article suggests that the rights might be sold on to individual broadcasters on a country by country basis, and that the BBC have previously been involved in similar deals - so it isn't necessarily the case that they've "lost" the rights, just that they haven't won them yet.

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It is the old white one.

I had completely forgotten that a new box was coming out so have cancelled the order (Thanks for jogging my memory) :)

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Sky are now joint with their European counterparts, is that right?

And Liberty Global is the world's largest cable company, or close to it, is that right?

So two of the largest broadcasting companies in the world would effectively hold the rights to a sporting championship with a global audience of about 500m people?

Could that be allowed?

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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1576794.ece (subscription needed for full article.)

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At last some common sense in seeing the wider benefits of sport being seen by a greater audience.

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My reading of The Sunday Times article which broke this story is that they are not joint bids "BROADCASTING giant Sky and John Malone’s Liberty Global are weighing offers for a £4.5bn controlling stake in Formula One, gatecrashing the plans of a Qatari-backed consortium to take control of the sport."

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Since we are customers of Liberty global can we ask them not to? And instead to use that 2.25bn on BT sport Europe and Sky Atlantic? Let sky waste their money on formula one whilst Liberty spends their money more wisely...

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You can certainly ask, yes. I don't think either company will acquire Formula 1, it will be bought by interests like Quatar who have bigger objectives than TV channels.
BT Sport Europe is coming to Virgin in August.
Unsure as to the strategic benefits of Liberty buying TV3, I guess maybe it can sell some of its content outside Ireland. Malone is a bit of an opportunist so maybe he saw a bargain!

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haha aye i enjoy asking and failing...just like i ask for a better job and a free flat to live in instead of my current job and my mums boxroom as i approach 30... ho hum hahah.

I meant bt sport europe in XL. if we get that im on the sparkling wine that night gents!

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That makes more sense.

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I doubt the viewing figures for the Champions League final and the British Grand Prix will have been substantially different.

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The Telegraph say Sky look likely to win the next lot of La Liga rights.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...TV-rights.html

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l bet they had to pay a fair whack though.

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Look like BT Sport has got the right to "Swiss Super League" with the first game being shown live on July 18th with the game:

-FC Zurich VS Young Boys - KO: 7pm - BT Sport 1 HD

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Good!!!!

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BBC and ITV form alliance to keep Six Nations away from Sky.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugb...-sky-1.2276942

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Sounds like good news. Let's hope this doesn't push future bids even higher, with the resultant increased subscriptions being paid by the punters.

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They are all greedy Den ,

On the point of price increases I see Sky has now increased its Broadband (ADSL) prices from £7.50 to £10 a month for new customers.

Sky Talk line rental of £16.40 which includes free weekend calls for existing customers will be the price of line rental only for new customers with evening & weekends costing £4 or Anytime calls £8 which I'm sure is £5 for existing customers.

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BBC & ITV 6 nations share deal confirmed for the next 6 years

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/33369443

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Good news for once for non PPV customers.

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Only if you like rugby union of course Den....

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Yes l am a fan.

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Sky sports season ticket ends today so contacted them, they offered my 3 months half price but I declined with make do with BT Sport Europe in the XL pack

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BT announces aggressively low price for 4K Ultra HD sports channel.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-announces...ports-channel/

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Sky Sports will show in-game clips and highlights from every Premier League game across its digital platforms

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-201617-season

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TalkTalk feels heat of broadband battle.

http://www.cityam.com/220768/talktal...oadband-battle

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Take note Virgin!

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Something is going to give in this market soon and they are the likely contenders.

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Oh dear customers are not happy.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/201...roadband-users

http://www.theguardian.com/money/201...dband-services

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lots of people unhappy with their current providers it seems

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Think the latest round of price rises across all providers have made people think twice about the price they are paying for pay TV. People need to vote with their feet and go where the best deals are for the services they require.

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New Sky set top box.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...t-top-box.html

Sky bids £40m for rights to city-based domestic Twenty20 tournament

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...t-colin-graves

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The ECB are selling cricket down the river with no concern for the betterment of the game.:(

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First BT, now SKY

I assume VM have new hardware in the pipeline?

Anyone heard anything?

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Virgin being left behind again in a trail of dust!

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:)

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Oh dear Max you must not get too pessimistic all the time old boy.;)

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So let's see... Multiroom streaming. Suggestions. Will "blur the lines between live broadcast, recorded content, and on-demand over the internet"

Sounds strangely familiar. ;)

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I suspect if true many Sky customers will be more interested in four tuners , ability to beam recordings to tablets , slick interface and some will also like the 4K ability.

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we need a new tivo introduced shortly. free upgrades. 4 tuners. faster. bigger hard driver. come on virgin media lets launch an invasion

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I'm a big fan of Tivo. and agree with you... but; multiroom streaming... well, kind of mess. The main channels that would have made it a good USP, just aren't there. Whether that is purely licensing, or VM not prepared to pay an extra cost to obtain the licensing, who knows?

It sounds as if Sky may have covered that aspect, though only time will tell.


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And, until Sky boxes get Whishlist functionality, they've lost at the get-go for me.

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Is it imminent or "coming soon" VM style :D

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Soon enough is the word l hear on the grapevine.

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I wonder if the new Sky boxes will be as slow as the Tivo box though? I prefer watching my tv in the bedroom on the V HD box but occasionally I watch some stuff in the living room and it`s then I see the slowness most on Tivo. Any idea anyone why it should be this way?

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Looks like La Liga TV rights are being sold by two organisations, though not to say that Sky and BT could not buy them all.

1. Four clubs (Barcelona, Celta Vigo, Espanyol and Real Sociedad) recently agreed Spanish TV deals with Telefonica. International TV rights for their home matches will also be sold by Telefonica.
2. The remaining 38 clubs from the top two divisions in Spain including Real Madrid will have their international rights sold by long-standing partner Mediapro which ironically is based in Barcelona.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/...0801--sow.html

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BT today launched 7 sports channels (ie no red button)

Copied from BT forum because I couldn't figure out how to get the right link - its late & I'm tired:

BT Launch their New Sport Extra Channels
BT Sport X1-X7 on 450-456 and X1HD-X7HD on 465-471 respectively

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Vernon Kay has bad news for NFL fans: 'Channel 4 isn't showing any this year'

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...this-year.html

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Well with him at the helm l am not surprised it failed.

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Sorry Den but I totally disagree , Channel 4 have been great for the NFL in the UK and this is sad news in my eyes. I'm not trying to insinuate that Vernon is the best presenter but he's truly passionate about the game.

Many UK NFL fans have Channel 4 to thank for their passion , as I say a shame for UK fans.

Anyone know what's happening with the Sunday night games ?

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Well each to their own opinion MM but l am not a fan of him.:)

l have not heard anything about the Sunday night games.

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aye to be fair he seems a bit of a t0sser but since ive never watched it i cant really comment.

id imagine sky will grab up all these sunday night games?? they need something to put on sky sports 5!

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There have been posts on the UK NFL forums today saying that BBC have picked up SNF and will be showing it on BBC3 until the channel switches over to online in 2016. Imagine the superbowl will be on BBC1 or 2.

NFL are keen to keep some content on free to air as they try and grow the sport in the UK with a view to a UK franchise.

These are unconfirmed reports re BBC, so treat as rumour.

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That is a great shame channel 4 were the original broadcasters of NFL in the 80's and although I have followed the game since the 70's it gave the me the first chance to watch games every week of the season.
I am lucky enough to follow my passion on Sky ,but I do feel for the many fans who will not be able to watch this season on free to air TV as it stand now.

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Let's hope the rumours are true!

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bring back the frig!! William Perry wasn't it?

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I think you mean the "fridge" Perry was a bit part player, there were many greats in 85 Bears:D

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yep, that's him

BTW:

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2012/11/fridge.html

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Update, if this is a legit email then BBC have NFL rights to SNF, this was posted just now on UK NFL forums

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLK2wcoXAAALKdR.jpg

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Excuse my ignorance as I know very little about NFL but isn't it very stop start? Surely it is better suited to a channel with adverts. I wonder how it would fare on BBC? They'll have to have a lot of waffle in the quiet time.

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Maybe they'll hire Andy Townsend & Michael Owen to have a bit of a chat in the breaks - hopefully on an exclusive basis.

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Most people are in bed anyway.:D

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Vernon Kay was bad enough thanks.:nono:

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He's waaaayyy better than the 2 eejits the Vicious Boys who did it many moons ago on CH4.

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According to the Daily Mail, BT Sport has won the La Liga rights. (scroll down)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...emi-final.html

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It just shows how much they overspent securing most of the EPL TV rights.

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Personally I would rather watch EPL however BT Sport is getting some decent rights together now.

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Well with the ECL , EL , FA Cup and several other big leagues plus some PL they are becoming a reasonable priced alternative to Sky Sports pricey premium packages.

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Agreed , people now have a choice if they can't afford to take the lot.