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alwaysabear 12-12-2018 22:22
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by LaLiga (Post 35975133)
Collapse of Eleven can't come quick enough. 50,000 sounds about 40,000 more than I thought they would have though.

As for Amazon? Why would they get involved. Their isn't a market for online/streaming sports...their Tennis coverage has been a similar disaster.

These streaming services need to stick to On Demand content and leave the live stuff to the TV providers.
Totally agree!

Mad Max 12-12-2018 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LaLiga (Post 35975133)
Collapse of Eleven can't come quick enough. 50,000 sounds about 40,000 more than I thought they would have though.

As for Amazon? Why would they get involved. Their isn't a market for online/streaming sports...their Tennis coverage has been a similar disaster.

These streaming services need to stick to On Demand content and leave the live stuff to the TV providers.
They are involved!

1andrew1 13-12-2018 00:32
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35975044)
Reality often trumps way out unsubstantiated predictions MM.
I think the UK's just a very crowded market for Eleven Sports but not having 11 sports rights and not being on the main platforms doesn't help matters. :) You've got Sky, BT, Premier Sports/Free Sports, EuroSport/Quest, Box Nation, Amazon, two racing channels plus the PSBs including S4C.
No wonder DAZN decided to give the UK sports market a miss despite being based here!
Not surprised UFC stayed with BT, they've heavily advertised it with posters which Eleven could only dream of.

OLD BOY 13-12-2018 07:26
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It would be interesting to know why their negotiations with Virgin Media came to nothing, but maybe VM were not convinced that Eleven could survive over here with their model and bearing in mind existing competition.

It's a tough market. Remember, in the early days, it was touch and go whether Sky would survive, and look at it now!

This certainly doesn't prove it's the end for streaming live events. There are too many problems with live streaming at the moment and superfast broadband still has to be rolled out across the country. Until these issues are ironed out, this method of sports delivery to our screens will continue to attract its critics, and rightly so.

denphone 13-12-2018 07:41
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35975164)
It would be interesting to know why their negotiations with Virgin Media came to nothing.
If one does not have a good hand to start with which quite clearly they did not they were found out very early in the game by Virgin and Sky.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35975164)

It's a tough market. Remember, in the early days, it was touch and go whether Sky would survive, and look at it now!
The UK sports TV market already has two 80lb gorilla's OB and as such there ain't room for a baby one as well.

---------- Post added at 07:41 ---------- Previous post was at 07:38 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35975164)

This certainly doesn't prove it's the end for streaming live events. There are too many problems with live streaming at the moment and superfast broadband still has to be rolled out across the country. Until these issues are ironed out, this method of sports delivery to our screens will continue to attract its critics, and rightly so.
Ifs , buts and maybes and personally l can't see that changing.

carravetta 13-12-2018 08:42
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35975164)
It would be interesting to know why their negotiations with Virgin Media came to nothing, but maybe VM were not convinced that Eleven could survive over here with their model and bearing in mind existing competition.

It's a tough market. Remember, in the early days, it was touch and go whether Sky would survive, and look at it now!

This certainly doesn't prove it's the end for streaming live events. There are too many problems with live streaming at the moment and superfast broadband still has to be rolled out across the country. Until these issues are ironed out, this method of sports delivery to our screens will continue to attract its critics, and rightly so.
Had Sky not being successful in acquiring the Premier League rights in 1992 I don't think it would have lasted the 20th century.

OLD BOY 13-12-2018 09:44
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 35975184)
Had Sky not being successful in acquiring the Premier League rights in 1992 I don't think it would have lasted the 20th century.
Correct. It almost sunk without trace! Who'd've thought it?

cheekyangus 13-12-2018 10:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35975169)

The UK sports TV market already has two 80lb gorilla's OB and as such there ain't room for a baby one as well.
Especially when there is a Primary age one to factor in too i.e. Premier/Freesports

muppetman11 13-12-2018 19:20
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I see Eleven Sports are now trying to renegotiate it's contracts according to the press.

It is apparently trying to get just the streaming rights , good luck with that as I can't see BT or Sky being interested in having the rights back if they can't give customers access using the BT Sport app or Sky Go.

denphone 13-12-2018 19:42
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35975293)
I see Eleven Sports are now trying to renegotiate it's contracts according to the press.

It is apparently trying to get just the streaming rights , good luck with that as I can't see BT or Sky being interested in having the rights back if they can't give customers access using the BT Sport app or Sky Go.
Clueless is the word that springs to mind MM.

jfman 13-12-2018 21:06
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35975164)
It's a tough market. Remember, in the early days, it was touch and go whether Sky would survive, and look at it now!
Sky did develop a new market though, and discover they could make football “compelling”. What’s the market for Eleven (or similar)?

It’s pretty well saturated.

OLD BOY 14-12-2018 16:26
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
BT have regained rights to show UFC.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-and-ufc-c...roadcast-deal/

Raider999 14-12-2018 16:35
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35975391)
BT have regained rights to show UFC.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-and-ufc-c...roadcast-deal/

It says Eleven Sports are trying to negotiate streaming rights with BT - however I cannot see why BT would allow that as it would eat into their customer base.

muppetman11 14-12-2018 17:19
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35975394)
It says Eleven Sports are trying to negotiate streaming rights with BT - however I cannot see why BT would allow that as it would eat into their customer base.
Can't see BT agreeing to that , surely they'll want to be able to show it on the BT Sport app also.

denphone 14-12-2018 17:33
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That is the way l see it as well.


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