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BRINO I'm afraid old chap, read the WA. |
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We are permanently outside of, and no longer bound by the acquis communautaire, and in no further danger of having national sovereignty eroded by qualified majority vote. |
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In NK, the gun to the head isn’t "in quotes" or metaphorical, it’s actual. You need to take a long hard serious look at your world-view if you actually think that we have a less free democracy than North Korea. |
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Regardless, it is still a total corruption of democracy to say "vote for this or else something worse will be put in its place". ---------- Post added at 01:12 ---------- Previous post was at 00:55 ---------- Quote:
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Also, 670,000 was not the true amount, is highly exaggerated by PV themselves. Expert analysis puts it at 400,000 total. Rather tiny in comparison to the actual leave result tally of 17.4 Million. Farage’s march wasn’t a rally, it was a walk and it was limited to 200 and all 200 turned up, despite what the Fake News Media stated. The winners of a Democratic vote shouldn’t need to protest. And the Democratic test was passed in 2016 via the ballot box, that’s how we really measure the nations desires, leave won by over a million more votes! So march away, come back when you have over 17.4 Million. :rolleyes: |
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I'm not sure comparing marchers to voters has any logic to it; likewise comparing the numbers willing to walk 20 miles a day for ten days or more takes more commitment and fitness than a half-day walk round London. |
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As I said - which you have curiously ignored - getting us out of the EU has been a long game. It will continue to be so, in part because of the very complexities that many of us have long argued have effectively eroded our sovereignty in practice. Securing a referendum was the first major victory. Winning it was the second. Leaving the EU is the third. After that, we are free to chart our own course and to diverge from the EU, over time, where it benefits us. This is a freedom we do not presently have, but which we soon will. |
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According to Radio 4, within the last five minutes, Esther McVey (leaver) has said that if there is enough support for her, she will be standing at the next Tory leadership contest.
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This is Brexit related to bear with me.
When we have a next election I predict that Labour will not be in governemt ot opposion, but the will be virtually wiped out. Last week on Radio 5 Live they were talking to voters from Labour strongholds up north, many people in these areas will not vote or never vote again, and they were Labour voters. I have not seen any BBC program since 9am on Thursday as they seem so anti Brexit. The final nail in the coffin was when they didn't shoot down or challenge some bint who wanted another referendum beacause and i Quote "Because those old people who voted to leave will more than like be dead, and those who were to young to vote and wanted to remain can now vote" If my radio at work wasn't so expensive I would have launched it. |
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Strange they got Brexit support in a vox pop in a Brexit supporting area, at a time of day when most people would be at work..
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I would also say that the reason so many young people are remainers is that they are indoctrinated by the teachers at school and the lecturers at colleges and universities. |
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It's funny that I supported brexit and I work..
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Schools and uni's have always bent to the left. To say the teachers in the classes never put their own personal views to the class is nonsense. |
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