Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36220326)

Does anyone know if there are any particular complexities in recording IPTV, as the only platform that does it is BT EE. A box was supposed to come out that could record Freesat, Freeview & IPTV, but when it launched the IPTV record function was missing, leading me to wonder if, for some reason, be it legal or technical, that doing this was problematic

Originally Posted by gunner45 (Post 36220324)

Sky Q never had an IPTV mode. The box is for broadcast TV and the only live streaming is from third-party apps like BBC iPlayer which manage the streams themselves. However Sky's own catch-up and on-demand on Sky Q is downloading to disk as the box cannot do streaming. This is why Sky must migrate all legacy boxes to Sky Stream, its IPTV service which is delivered exclusively through Sky Glass and the Sky Stream puck. Virgin Media will be doing the exact same thing in migrating all the TiVo, V6 and TV 360 boxes onto its Stream boxes.

Originally Posted by gunner45 (Post 36220324)

Sky Q never had an IPTV mode. The box is for broadcast TV and the only live streaming is from third-party apps like BBC iPlayer which manage the streams themselves. However Sky's own catch-up and on-demand on Sky Q is downloading to disk as the box cannot do streaming. This is why Sky must migrate all legacy boxes to Sky Stream, its IPTV service which is delivered exclusively through Sky Glass and the Sky Stream puck.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36220326)

Does anyone know if there are any particular complexities in recording IPTV, as the only platform that does it is BT EE. A box was supposed to come out that could record Freesat, Freeview & IPTV, but when it launched the IPTV record function was missing, leading me to wonder if, for some reason, be it legal or technical, that doing this was problematic

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36220336)

So how do all the Skysports+ streams work ? and where is what you say actually documented ?

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Its not going to be technical, if you can generate a signal to drive a TV set, you can generate one for recording.

Perhaps we'll all end up back using VCRs to record (or at least the more modern equivelent, to record the generated video to disk).

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36220326)

Does anyone know if there are any particular complexities in recording IPTV, as the only platform that does it is BT EE. A box was supposed to come out that could record Freesat, Freeview & IPTV, but when it launched the IPTV record function was missing, leading me to wonder if, for some reason, be it legal or technical, that doing this was problematic

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36220384)

Think i'll be better with a generic box that can record Freeview & Freesat then, topped up by dipping in & out of streaming services as/if and when required. Most of my recordings are from Channels 1-5.

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36220385)

A lot of TVs do that - mine does.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36220336)

So how do all the Skysports+ streams work ? and where is what you say actually documented ?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36220326)

Does anyone know if there are any particular complexities in recording IPTV, as the only platform that does it is BT EE. A box was supposed to come out that could record Freesat, Freeview & IPTV, but when it launched the IPTV record function was missing, leading me to wonder if, for some reason, be it legal or technical, that doing this was problematic

Originally Posted by gunner45 (Post 36220396)

Sky Sports+ is Sky's only real streaming on its Sky Q platform, but that doesn't make Sky Q an IPTV box. When satellite is shut down, Sky won't invest in all the backend to enable Sky Q to continue only this streaming when it has the puck as a ready replacement.

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Recording of streams isn't a technicality, it's all about the content owners refusing to allow it. There were particular circumstances which enabled BT to record PSB streams as its platform was originally a regulated YouView hybrid and the PSBs agreed to allow IP recording only for their own channels and under strict conditions. However this began to fall apart when the BBC forced all live streams through its iPlayer app in 2024, and other PSBs introduced restrictions on the live stream recordings.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36220405)

Thanks for the info. ISTR reading that, even if a recording exists, when attempting to play BBC recordings, it will play it from the iPlayer. I can't remember which platform this was, do you know?

Originally Posted by gunner45 (Post 36220451)

I think it's the EE TV Box Pro in "Internet Mode" where an attempt to play a recording results in a stream from the BBC iPlayer app. This is because the BBC doesn't allow any streams to be recorded, so a 'recording' is a cloud-redirect bookmark* to enable the iPlayer app to stream the programme.

* Sky calls it a playlist, Virgin Media a watchlist

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36220563)

aye this is correct.

quite handy but i imagine it'll be less handy and nice once they move to streaming tv only and no ability to record so having to watch things on the watchlist from itv and its terrible ads

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36220563)

aye this is correct.

quite handy but i imagine it'll be less handy and nice once they move to streaming tv only and no ability to record so having to watch things on the watchlist from itv and its terrible ads