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1andrew1 18-12-2021 20:37
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106308)
It’s a mild flu like condition to some, ok, let me ask another way, if it’s just a mild flu, then why did governments globally lockdown, they can’t all be wrong, so what is the ulterior motive ?

It would be an amazing coincidence to see it linked to something else, but you’re right it’s entirely plausible

Africas population & demographics are completely different to the U.K. they can’t speak on our behalf.

This could be a storm in a teacup. You could be right, I hope you are. As if you’re wrong & if the scientists are right we are going to be in a world of hurt.

Time will tell.

Been a pleasure discussing 👍
Yeah, there's a bit of a dispute as to whether it is milder. I had read the encouraging info from SA but the recent Imperial College report seems to disagree.

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The study finds no evidence of Omicron having lower severity than Delta, judged by either the proportion of people testing positive who report symptoms, or by the proportion of cases seeking hospital care after infection. However, hospitalisation data remains very limited at this time.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/2326...icron-england/

Chris 18-12-2021 20:38
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106308)
It’s a mild flu like condition to some, ok, let me ask another way, if it’s just a mild flu, then why did governments globally lockdown, they can’t all be wrong, so what is the ulterior motive ?
Because if it isn’t, by the time the data confirms it it will be too late to start taking mitigating action. The restrictions have to be in place quickly, based on what we definitely know about covid already, and if possible can then be removed quickly once we know more about omicron.

jfman 18-12-2021 20:48
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36106319)
Yeah, there's a bit of a dispute as to whether it is milder. I had read the encouraging info from SA but the recent Imperial College report seems to disagree.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/2326...icron-england/
No two populations have the same underlying reasons for what immunity they have. Previous infections of different variants, vaccines, etc. These will all skew at a population level in a way that makes it more challenging to say that either variant against the same individual will have a different outcome.

Regardless, the most optimistic outlooks indicate 30% milder. Which is massively outweighed at a population level by an R number anywhere between 3 and 6.

mrmistoffelees 18-12-2021 20:49
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36106320)
Because if it isn’t, by the time the data confirms it it will be too late to start taking mitigating action. The restrictions have to be in place quickly, based on what we definitely know about covid already, and if possible can then be removed quickly once we know more about omicron.
I know…..

Mick 18-12-2021 21:07
Re: Coronavirus
 
BREAKING: The Brother of Jeremy Corbyn, Piers Corbyn, facing calls to be arrested for inciting violence against MPs for Covid restrictions.

Video has emerged on Twitter of him saying:

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"We've got to get a bit more physical."

"We've got to hammer to death those ****, those **** who have decided to go ahead with introducing new fascism."

"If your MP is one of them, go to their offices, and, well, I'd recommend burning them down."

jfman 18-12-2021 21:11
Re: Coronavirus
 
Vive le revolution.

A bit crass after that MP got stabbed.

Chris 18-12-2021 21:12
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106323)
I know…..
The number of rhetorical questions and facetious observations in this thread is getting difficult to follow :spin:

Mick 18-12-2021 21:21
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36106324)
BREAKING: The Brother of Jeremy Corbyn, Piers Corbyn, facing calls to be arrested for inciting violence against MPs for Covid restrictions.

Video has emerged on Twitter of him saying:
LATEST: Home Secretary Priti Patel wades in with a tweet just now:

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The Piers Corbyn video is sickening.

I back the police to take the strongest possible action against him.

mrmistoffelees 18-12-2021 21:32
Re: Coronavirus
 
Has she pipped up about the Apple store getting smashed up today in London by covid protestors? Genuine question…

Or, maybes they were all just trying to gatecrash a party ?

nffc 18-12-2021 21:41
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106329)
Has she pipped up about the Apple store getting smashed up today in London by covid protestors? Genuine question…

Or, maybes they were all just trying to gatecrash a party ?
No-one can identify them because they were all wearing masks...

Maggy 18-12-2021 21:50
Re: Coronavirus
 
I still want to hear what the death toll is from the Omicron variant as opposed to the the Delta variant. Unfortunately the media only keeps referring to Covid overall rather than specific variants.

Mick 18-12-2021 21:51
Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36106329)
Has she pipped up about the Apple store getting smashed up today in London by covid protestors? Genuine question…

Or, maybes they were all just trying to gatecrash a party ?
I think a store being vandalised by Covid Restriction protestors and the brother of the former Labour Leader calling for MPs to be slain, shouldn’t even be compared.

nffc 18-12-2021 21:53
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36106332)
I still want to hear what the death toll is from the Omicron variant as opposed to the the Delta variant. Unfortunately the media only keeps referring to Covid overall rather than specific variants.
7 according to the UKHSA
https://assets.publishing.service.go...n-Overview.pdf


Worth a follow on twitter if you're on there - https://twitter.com/UKHSA

Mick 18-12-2021 21:57
Re: Coronavirus
 
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Absolutely staggering…… conversation between Spectators Fraser Nelson and a Professor working for SAGE:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1639864540

nffc 18-12-2021 22:01
Re: Coronavirus
 
I've seen that same thread, Mick.


Tail is wagging the dog. If they're being told what to model, then it's no surprise the modelling is reflecting the worst case outcomes.


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