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Mr K 20-03-2017 17:05
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35890904)
Well it's a pretty good bet that the Russian Ambassador is having his phoned tapped.
Oops, they didn't think of that. It's doing 'thinking' where Team Trump falls down. Tweet first, then keep lying to try and justify it. If that doesn't work, Tweet more crap and call anything else 'fake news', then go golfing.

Can they really keep this up for five years? Five months might be a struggle.....

1andrew1 20-03-2017 18:29
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35890901)
I am in complete agreement with you here, he does need to show what he has and you will find I have said this a couple of times in this thread.
That's missing the point. What is your deadline for Trump to produce the evidence? Today? Next month? Next year? The statutory deadline was today and he failed to produce the evidence.
You need to acknowledge what Trump has implicitly acknowledged - there is no evidence.
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35890901)
You have to ask though, who leaked the information on Michael Flynn speaking to Russian Ambassador about Russia sanctions, they were asking that in that hearing just now, and it clearly points to someone or a set of individuals in the intelligence community that possibly got hold of that information via snooping, you also have to ask how did they get intel on it and which it was then leaked to the press?
This again is another attempt by Trump at distraction. Of course hostile powers' phones are tapped. The leak is far less important than the possible collusion between Trump's team and Russia.
Personally, it's obvious the Russians helped Trump but I doubt any evidence of collusion will be found. And a fresh approach on Russia may be what's needed. But the Russian involvement is worrying.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35890911)
Oops, they didn't think of that. It's doing 'thinking' where Team Trump falls down. Tweet first, then keep lying to try and justify it. If that doesn't work, Tweet more crap and call anything else 'fake news', then go golfing.

Can they really keep this up for five years? Five months might be a struggle.....
The trouble is, when you get found out, the only solution is to tell a bigger lie than the last one...

Mick 20-03-2017 18:42
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35890922)
That's missing the point. What is your deadline for Trump to produce the evidence? Today? Next month? Next year? The statutory deadline was today and he failed to produce the evidence.
You need to acknowledge what Trump has implicitly acknowledged - there is no evidence.
Do not ever tell me what I need to acknowledge: I judge things my way, not yours and no I'm not missing any point.

adzii_nufc 20-03-2017 18:50
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I'm sure James Comey will get to the bottom of Trump and Russia, dishing out some immunity along the way leading to the only people capable of implicating anyone being useless. The James Comey way. :tu:

I'm sure evidence of anything to do with Trump and Russia will surface in plain sight, you know somewhere like Reddit, because the FBI are incapable of actually carrying anything out.

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The investigation will take several months, if not years, will find no real evidence of a crime, but will be used by the media and the Democrats to attack Trump over and over again, like the Republicans did to Clinton.

In the end, nothing will come of this other than some political theater setting the stage for the next election in which Americans will get to pick between two distasteful candidates.
I remember when he was the most corrupt hack in the world when investigating Clinton, all of a sudden he's now Batman. The hero everyone suddenly needs. Nothing's changed, he's still the most incompetent useless sod involved in this.

Still think it's pretty amazing the US of all countries want to be outraged at potential interference into their elections.

1andrew1 20-03-2017 19:00
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35890931)
Do not ever tell me what I need to acknowledge: I judge things my way, not yours and no I'm not missing any point.
If that's the case, what's your deadline for Trump to produce the evidence?

Mick 20-03-2017 19:12
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35890936)
If that's the case, what's your deadline for Trump to produce the evidence?
Have I been promoted to the investigation panel here ? :erm:

Either way, I have no opinion on the matter.

passingbat 20-03-2017 20:15
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Why don't people wait until the end of the process before making judgements? Today was just the first day.

ianch99 20-03-2017 20:25
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
We have a number of posters in this thread who have a thing about hypocrisy ... how about this as an example?

Trump, critic of Obama's golfing, regularly hits the links

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President Donald Trump, once a critic of his predecessor's golfing, has visited one of his golf courses in Florida -- seemingly to play the sport -- five of the last seven weekends.
Hang on a minute, didn't he say?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2017/03/7.jpg

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"I'm going to be working for you; I'm not going to have time to go play golf," Trump said during a 2016 event in Virginia.

Trump made critiquing Obama for golfing a part of his 2016 message.

"I love golf, I think it's one of the greats, but I don't have time," then-President-elect Trump said during a December 2016 rally in Michigan. "He played more golf last year than Tiger Woods. We don't have time for this. We don't have time for this. We have to work."
You can't make it up ... Trump *is* the gift that keeps giving ..

Mr K 20-03-2017 20:34
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890948)
Why don't people wait until the end of the process before making judgements? Today was just the first day.
No, it's been the 59th day, each one of them a disaster.....
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Number of tweets 641 Meters of the wall built 0
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-daily-updates

Hugh 20-03-2017 20:50
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
If you look at all the questions FBI Chief Comey can't comment on, you have a pretty good idea of the scope of the FBI's investigation....

1andrew1 20-03-2017 20:57
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35890954)
If you look at all the questions FBI Chief Comey can't comment on, you have a pretty good idea of the scope of the FBI's investigation....
Exactly. Hopefully Passingbat and pals understand the point you're making. ;)

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35890951)
No, it's been the 59th day, each one of them a disaster.....
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-daily-updates
Every day has been comedy gold. :D

Damien 20-03-2017 21:12
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Passingbat is correct in that we should wait until the end of the investigation, so long as the investigation isn't impeded, or until something more concrete emerges. Flynn has gone already.

Manafort might be looked at? The White House was quick to distance themselves from him (he ran the campaign until the Ukraine/Russian links meant he had to step down).

passingbat 20-03-2017 21:28
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35890955)
Exactly. Hopefully Passingbat and pals understand the point you're making. ;)

I have specifically not commented on this, because I really don't know, whether there was Russian collusion or not or whether Trump was under surveillance or not. I'll wait for the full outcome

Damien 20-03-2017 21:40
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890971)
I have specifically not commented on this, because I really don't know, whether there was Russian collusion or not or whether Trump was under surveillance or not. I'll wait for the full outcome
There isn't an investigation into Trump being wiretapped. The FBI, DOJ and NSC can't find evidence of it, don't understand how Obama could have done it or what caused Trump's tweet. Unless something from the WH is heading the committee's way today then I guess nothing is happening on that.

1andrew1 20-03-2017 21:47
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35890973)
There isn't an investigation into Trump being wiretapped. The FBI, DOJ and NSC can't find evidence of it, don't understand how Obama could have done it or what caused Trump's tweet. Unless something from the WH is heading the committee's way today then I guess nothing is happening on that.
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35890971)
I have specifically not commented on this, because I really don't know, whether there was Russian collusion or not or whether Trump was under surveillance or not. I'll wait for the full outcome
Passingbat, that is the full outcome. There is nothing to wait for on the Trump surveillance front.
The same cannot be said for the separate Russian collusion investigation. That's why FBI Chief Comey didn't comment on it much.


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