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You want the Prime Minister to resign because someone he hired lied to him and to a Select Committee, and who had not been charged with any crime at the time - talk about passing on the sins of the fathers to the sons.....

I have 127 staff working for me - am I responsible for all the things all of them had been accused of doing in the past (but never charged or put on trial), if it is found out that they lied about them to me?

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Its called a very poor lack of judgement and sorry Hugh as much as you maybe would like to be in high office sadly David Cameron is there and you tell me if it was the leader of another party don't tell me that the Media and public would not be calling for his or hers head.:)

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His resignation would be nice :)

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If poor judgement on such an issue* were a reason for resignation Bliar, Brown, Milliband, Balls and numerous others shouldn't have lasted 5 minutes.

* trivial when compared to say??.... ermm..... lying about WMDs to drag us into a war, selling vast amounts of gold at the bottom of the market, cash for questions, cash for honours etc., etc., etc., etc.

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But the issue is now and not then and involves David Cameron, Andy Coulson and News Corp players and is not trivial in the vast majority of the publics minds as they still believe he is not telling the full truth but is giving some very vague answers when he is questioned.

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Ah, that's not "poor judgement" - that's "acting on the information available at the time"....

Oh.......

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Well l suppose that depends on your political point of view.;)

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But you are doing an Ed Milliband - "the past is not important (cos we were involved), only the present"; but at the same time Cameron was hiring Coulson, the Labour Government was being very cosy with News International - so do alleged inappropriate actions in the recent past only apply to the Conservatives?

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You said it!

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Hiring Coulson not trivial when compared to WMDs, £billions wasted and countless thousands of lives lost. Do me a favour!

On what basis do you conclude and apparently speak for the 'vast majority of the public' when considering what's more or less trivial?

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If inappropriate actions are found to be done by Labour politicians then they should face the same consequences just like David Cameron should.:)

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But the issue is now and those issues have nothing to do with it.:)

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That's a "convenient" position to take - things that happened in the past concerning the Conservatives are relevant (because the Coulson hiring happened in 2007, not now, but is being raised now due to the NI scandal), but things that Labour did in the past aren't relevant.....

As this is all about alleged influence, how come no one is raising this, which was reported in The Independent in 2007 (the same time Coulson was hired)

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Only if they are found to have done some wrongdoing in this whole News Corp scandal and if they have then they should be brought to book as well.:)

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Actually our resident newsfeed has a good point. I mean it's not as though we're still dealing with the legacy of New Labour's 'trivial' errors of judgement is it. Not as though our children, their children and their children's children are going to be paying for all their lies and mistakes is it? I mean that's all done and dusted now, all in the past, nothing to worry about at all...... :rolleyes:

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You are trying to bring other political issues into it Osem when they have nothing to do with the present scandal.:)

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So what wrongdoing has Cameron (and even Coulson) been proved to have engaged in at this point to justify his resignation or is he just guilty because you and the 'vast majority of the public' for whom you clearly speak think so?