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Maggy 27-03-2012 22:17
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/17525349

Just when we thought it was all dead..

Quote:
O2 says it has no option but "co-operate fully" with a High Court judgement ordering it to hand customer details over to a porn company.
Golden Eye International Ltd took action on behalf of 13 adult entertainment companies.

Sirius 28-03-2012 06:45
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35406033)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/17525349

Just when we thought it was all dead..

However the Judge has seen some sense

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He described the letter as "capable of causing unnecessary distress because it could be read as an implicit threat of publicity once proceedings have been commenced".

Representing O2's customers watchdog Consumer Focus also attacked the claim for £700, describing it as "unsupported and unsupportable".

The Judge agreed and said Golden Eye International Ltd was not justified in sending letters demanding that amount of money.

If all 9,124 customers paid £700 it would amount to £6.3 million.

Instead he ordered that any potential settlement sum should be negotiated with each individual recipient.

In total Mr Justice Arnold rejected claims from 12 of the 13 porn production companies.

Chris 28-03-2012 07:57
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I don't think this case is likely to reach Crossleyesque proportions - the British legal machine is now wise to this scam and the judge has handed down quite a wise set of instructions. The pr0n companies have got the IPs they wanted but they have been prevented from using them to operate a speculative invoicing scam. If they have to negotiate individually with each of their targets, it will cost them a lot more and they stand to gain a lot less.

I suspect the standard advice still applies to anyone approached by one of these 'studios' - reply and deny. An IP address proves nothing.

Sirius 28-03-2012 10:09
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35406101)
An IP address proves nothing.
It is possible to hide you ip or even fake it if you know how ;). Most of the IP address info they will have is because people are still idiotic enough to use public trackers to get there fix. I am fairly confident they will have no ip information from any private trackers, Newsgroup or Ftp sources. If users stick to none public sources then they will significantly reduce the chance of being targeted by those that carry out the speculative invoicing scam.

Kymmy 19-04-2012 08:10
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Now it's starting in the US

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17763218

Sirius 19-04-2012 10:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35415956)
If they use the ip info they will lose. And people need to move to private trackers not public

Itshim 19-04-2012 16:00
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35416059)
If they use the ip info they will lose. And people need to move to private trackers not public

Ok How? :confused:

Sirius 19-04-2012 16:51
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35416286)
Ok How? :confused:
If you are asking how to find and use private trackers then its not my place to tell you how to find them.

Itshim 20-04-2012 15:14
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35416312)
If you are asking how to find and use private trackers then its not my place to tell you how to find them.

Its was but I have no idea what they are :erm:

Googled it.

techguyone 20-04-2012 16:43
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
This looks promising http://www.btracs.com/

Though I must admit I don't really know anything about it either, I'm sure once the internet snoop bill gets in, it won't matter if it's public/private you'll be knackered either way.

Mad Max 20-04-2012 21:36
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Wouldn't a VPN protect you?

techguyone 20-04-2012 22:01
Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35417033)
Wouldn't a VPN protect you?
Perhaps, but it starts to get more bothersome than it's worth when you have to go to ever increasing lengths doesn't it.


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