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It's telling OB hasn't replied to your post with the BBC link.:D

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Most of the new streamers won't be launching internationally for at least a year, as they launch in America first, so Netflix still probably has at least two years before any real competition starts and even longer before any impact will be felt from them.

As for third party content being removed, as far as I know this only concerns the American Netflix at the moment. Friends and The Office will still be on the intentional version, so again no impact there.

Netflix said last that they believe it was due to a lack of hit shows which is why they missed their numbers, but price rices also hit numbers too. As Stranger Things has only come out now, their next quarter should be significantly better and if its not, "then we have a problem Houston..."

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Remember Netflix will be saving a lot of money by NOT having to pay to screen Friends, The Office, etc

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Yes, but that's not the answer to the question he asked.

By definition that excludes the rest of the customers on the Virgin platform.

Anyone on the street can get Prime. He's specifically referring to the cost for a subset of households - Virgin Media subscribers.

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I'm pretty sure the shows you mention are being pulled globally although have to confess to not being 100%.

The Office will be on NBC Universals service which will be available to Sky subscribers so it would be odd if it's only US.

What about ITV and BBC are they still going to distribute on Netflix when Britbox launches here ?

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Either way it's inevitable.

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They will also not have a huge captive audience anymore for followers of those hugely popular series.

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Surely by the time those shows are gone from Netflix, everyone who wanted to see them again will have done so?

There are of course bound to be those who want permanent access, as if it were a DVD library, but then many of them would probably have already bought the box set.

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While yes, rationally you'd think this.

However all television is littered with repeats and evidence suggests people watch the same thing over and over. While not the case now, the Simpsons is a previous example of the same show being repeated daily.

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Regarding Netflix the information we've seen (quiet day in the office lol) is Netflix new subscriber base has slowed down, so rather than it being Netflix losing subscribers it is more of a case of the level of new subscribers joining Netflix is what has slowed down.
This is to be expected with any subscription based service they all get a slower new subscriber base eventually.
Another thing with content such as friends and the office leaving NETFLIX USA next year Netflix will have the money from those shows to play with too, i must point out it is only Netflix USA that is affected, those shows are remaining on other regions for now.

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Unless, of course, they paid a package deal for those shows up front...

Sunk cost, no further savings.

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I see you are talking riddles again. I have answered the question. In case it's not obvious, if you are a Virgin customer but do not subscribe to Amazon, you won't get the Christmas time Premier football. Therefore you won't pay for it.

If you are a Virgin customer who subscribes to Amazon Prime, you will get the football and you won't pay extra for it either.

There, is that clear enough for you? If not, please tell me what it is that is confusing you.

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I'm not talking in riddles: just pointed out you didn't answer the question asked, which is why you've added qualifications into the explaination above. The answer as originally posted doesn't address the question at all.

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Do we know if we're getting the full Prime Video features yet? I know I only have to wait until monday to find out but just interested if anything has been announced.

By full I mean, Prime video and rent/purchase newer movies too

Thanks

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Very good point.

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If it's same as Youview app it'll be the full Amazon video service including rentals/purchases.
Speaking of Amazon i had a very interesting document that suggests that soon we'll be able to view google video purchases on the Amazon video and Amazon purchases on the google video app.

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Well, it does, actually! Why would a non-Amazon subscriber who happened to be a Virgin Media TV customer get the Christmas football at all? I think most people understood my answer.

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Let's look at it what was originally said.

If he meant Amazon customers, or any member of the public, why make the distinction at all?

He means Virgin customers. Will they get a special price for the football, not the standard price.

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I said only Amazon subscribers. That is the answer to the first point.

On the matter of price, I would have thought that was obvious too, for two reasons. Firstly, to get Amazon Prime, you have to subscribe directly, not through Virgin Media. Secondly, yet again, there is no additional cost to get the football if you are an Amazon Prime subscriber.

I suspect that in the future, it will be possible to subscribe to all the streaming services through Virgin Media and at a 'bundle' discount, but we are not there yet.

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Netflix lost 126,000 subscribers in the second quarter in the US.

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OB - eventually you give an answer to my question, I believe you are saying the only way for a Virgin customer to get this football will be to subscribe to Amazon Prime?

I was hoping they would bundle it in with the full house package as BT sport is.

A good opportunity for those of us who are sceptical about streaming to try it and see how it works for us - but I'm not paying extra to do that!

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I am sorry if my answer was not explicit enough, Raider. Apologies then to jfman - I thought he was pedantically playing with me.

I do hope that ultimately, Virgin bundle all their streaming services and apply some sort of discount. Free ITV Hub+ and Channel 4+ would be good!

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You wont have to pay extra, you can try Prime free for one month.
Just remember to cancel the sub before the month is out.

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True, and if this is your first experience of streaming, bear in mind that Netflix has a much better choice, and all without increased charge over and above the subscription. You can get a free trial with that, too, and it's already on Virgin Media.

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Why would Virgin Media customers get BT Sports, some of whom won't pay a single penny to BT across the range of products/services?

It'd be very easy for Virgin to have came to a deal over this considering the rights cost Amazon nothing. Prominent placing of advertising on channel 100, in the EPG, main menu, Virgin press release, Virgin's own advertising during the period emails to customers promoting say, 1 month of free Prime in December.

Alternative idea:

One game each match day on Channel 100, advertising the remainder on Prime.

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All that is true, but my post was relating to the current position, which is that Amazon will continue to have a direct relationship with Virgin Media customers.

Of course, that could change in the future, and your examples are sound enough, but no such arrangement has been announced yet.

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Britbox will cost £5.99 per month and will be available by the end of 2019.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/enter...-arts-49037855

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Are we aware of any cockup with amazon prime? We are almost in August. Are virgin media going to do the ridiculous “September is still summer lolz” move?

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It is launching on Monday

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...e-on-virgin-tv

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The vexed question is how long will it survive..

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Will people who currently use services that don't need the TV licence have to get one to use this? If so that adds another £12.80 a month. Not so much of a bargain now. :erm:

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You just aren't being positive enough. Have you not seen a field of dreams?

If you build it they will come.

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Its not about being positive as its about being realistic.

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My comparison with a film about time travelling ghosts playing baseball in a corn field was deliberate.

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I certainly won't be paying Britbox £5.99 for content I already have access to.

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And l suspect yours is a very representative view MM.

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Great info! Many thanks. i was getting angrier at the whole "summer" deadline and tweeted a rant at them.

Glad to see we now have definite information!

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As I understand it, Britbox will contain original and archived content not available elsewhere from BBC, ITV and possibly Channel 4. I am hoping that Virgin will bundle their streaming services and throw Britbox UK in as part of it. Well, we can dream...

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I was surprised to read that the BBC has only a 10 percent share in Britbox. ITV has 90 percent. No mention of anyone else.

From the viewers point of view, I fail to see how all these payable streaming services are better than the current system where both new and old series are available to watch on channels even in the cheaper bundles. Will the older programmes be pulled from channels such as Drama to go onto Britbox thus forcing the channels to close down?

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Sky have agreements for both BBC and ITV Boxsets certainly enough to make it not worth me paying £5.99 for this epecially when it's content I've seen many times.

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I would not pay a bean for it if it was only archived material. I guess it depends how much in the way of original material also finds its way on here.

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The big advantage is being able to see what you want, when you want, but a substantial proportion of the (mainly older) population has yet to make that conversion of faith and still tend to stay with the scheduled TV channels for the majority of their viewing.

I believe that all the UKTV channels will close at some point and so those programmes would then be found only on Britbox. I have read that this will happen sooner rather than later, but I am not yet convinced that it will happen in the next couple of years. I would not rule it out, though.

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The big advantage is being able to see what you want, when you want.

Or as it's known to the general population "watch TV" across the range of linear, on demand, catch up and streaming. Unless you watch old shit. In which case they have more, if you missed it first time.

The revolution is here, Comrades.

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Hi, jfman. Thought that would wake you up.

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It’s a pleasure to be here.

Economics lessons Saturday.
Contract law Sundays.

All welcome to participate :)

Can’t do this all week every week. Believe it or not people pay me for my thoughts in another sector, but I don’t want to lose objectivity here. So will post less.

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Those agreements are time limited, muppetman, so make the most of it while you can.

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It's a pleasure to spar with you, jfman, but I sometimes think that if you would explain your thinking a little better, we may disagree less. ;)

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Well, at £5.99 per month, it will be interesting to see the impact of the Britbox experience!

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Looking at a lot of comments online, people believe they are being asked to pay twice for the same content.
I for one will definitely not be paying for Brit Box.

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A great flaw in their business model even before it starts l would say...

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Not a chance that I would pay for that dross......:td:

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does this mean things will be moved from iplayer and itv player quicker?

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BBC are asking for content put on the iPlayer to be extended to a years stay on there rather then a month but what that means in reality with Britbox coming one can only guess.

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That was provisionally approved last month.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ead-of-30-days

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I'd pay for it /IF/ they reverted to their original plant of digitising the back catalogue of BBC content as promised by Greg Dyke back in 2003

Last Sunday, Greg Dyke changed that. He revealed that the BBC is planning to digitise and offer for download, for free, as much of its back catalogue of programmes that it can legally do, from the earliest radio reels to nature documentaries to educational programmes. Anyone will be allowed to re-use, re-edit and mix this material with their own, provided it's for non-commercial use.

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It would also be great to see some of the old BBC shows which BSB Galaxy had and Gold original showed some of. The like of Grange Hill and 'Till Death Us Do Part.

NOT the 5-6 series which rotate non-stop of the current Gold channel.

Thames TV had a lot of classic stuff but appears not to be a part of the ITV archive anymore - so is being picked up by the likes of Forces TV and Talking Pictures.

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That is the great problem though as even some of the older content is not solely owned by BBC and ITV and you could also have series which ran for years and it might have several owners of its content.

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Netflix is of no interest to me - only into sport

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Media Boy Sources has tonight revealed that are Sky looking to add UKTV (GOLD, W and Drama) to NowTV.

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GOLD has been on NowTV ages, not sure about the others.

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The other UKTV subscription channels are Alibi, Eden and W.

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The Amazon app has appeared in my 'Apps list' and is loading fine.

Programmes on Amazon are appearing in the V6 search menus and link to the app.

And subscribed Amazon channels, like Eurosport Xtra and MGM, are all streaming fine.

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Nothing has shown up on "my app list" yet.

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Same here but I can search and watch without the app showing on the list.

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It is on there now as strange l checked the other box 10 minutes later and it was on there and once l rebooted this box it showed up.

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If you don't have the app yet, go into Network Settings and do a connection.

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There's a lot of content available to rent / buy that's also available on Virgin Movies / Virgin Media Store, in some cases it's cheaper on Amazon Prime Video. Interesting that Virgin Media has allowed another service onto the platform that competes directly with its own services.

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Virgin Media Store is not owned by Virgin Media as far as l know SonicMaster.

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I'm surprised the channels are available. I thought that part might not have been allowed by VM.

Interesting. :)

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https://www.libertyglobal.com/wp-con...31-2017-Q4.pdf

Virgin Movies and Virgin Media Store are both provided for and on behalf of Virgin Media Limited by Vubiquity Management Limited, so it's safe to assume that Virgin Media are generating income from these services.

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Same as BT tbf BT allowed the full Amazon video service on their platform too and BT has it's own movies/tv store.
Not sure about other platforms aka plusner, talktalk and sky.

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Sky does not have Amazon Prime although it does have Netflix.

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New app works a treat - and fast, too.
For me, the big plus of the Amazon Prime Video app is its integration into the V6 search and bookmarking. As far as I know, Sky doesn't have this (please correct me if I'm wrong) and having all content tied together and searchable on the V6 is a massive plus point for Virgin.

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l very much agree with what you have said Nialli.

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l am pretty sure not but MM will tell us.

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It's certainly a good addition to the V6 but what I find confusing is that some content is included with the Prime subscription while other shows/films must be paid for over and above this. It's not clear if UHD material is included in the basic sub or not. At first glance it all appears to be mixed in together and not easy to differentiate. At least with Netflix I can be certain that whatever I choose to watch is included in my sub.

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On the Amazon Prime Video home page it will have the content included with Amazon Prime Video just like it is online as there are 5 lists in the menu which are All Videos , Your Videos , Included with Prime Video , Channels and Rent or buy and if one is a Amazon Prime member then all those included with Prime are free.

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I hadn't seen that. Admittedly, it was just a quick glance at the app. I'll look again this evening when I have more time and see if I can make more sense of it. Either way it's a worthwhile addition.

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There's nothing VM can do about it as that's the Amazon interface. It's not the best and all the VM app does is make it available on the V6. I don't like the Netflix or NowTV interfaces either - I seem to be scrolling vertically and horizontally for ages looking for something to watch. That's why I'm pleased the Amazon and Netflix content can be searched with a single query, along with all the regular EPG and OnDemand content.

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This is the same if you access Amazon Prime Video via a firestick or via its app on a tablet or a smart TV. It’s a pain in the neck, and worse when they present you a box set with the first half dozen seasons included in Prime and then inexplicably the final season or two is chargeable.

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But, on a more positive note, at least Amazon doesn't whip away content when you've barely had a chance to watch a few episodes. NowTV's HBO series are the worst - Sky needs to re-negotiate the On Demand for those shows pronto if it's serious about competing with Amazon and Netflix.

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Hmmm no HDR on Amazon's UHD content on the V6,
I think I'll carry on with my Firestick until VM fix that.

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I was just about to asked which is better V6 Amazon Prime or Firestick 4K/TV 4K and i think you have answered my question.

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The Firestick is always going to be better as it is the Amazon Prime Device - a opposed to being just an add-on for other devices.

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TalkTalk are the next company to add Amazon Prime Video.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2019...n-prime-video/

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Is anyone else missing a link to Prime Video from the Search & Discover menu?

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The link isn't there - it is in the Apps menu or from channel 228.

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That happened months ago, before Virgin Media.

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Signed in to Prime video this morning and absolutely nothing is working everything I try to play is met by an error message

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Odd that it's missing from there. Maybe it's because it is only available on V6 boxes?

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You can stream Eurosport via Amazon on Talk Talk. I did it for a while. Good thing about it was it had all the catch up stuff on there as well.

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I have a v6 box. I'm thinking it's either an oversight or a bug. Very annoying though!

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I have a V6 box too, what I meant is that if the same Search & Discover menu appears on the TiVo box too maybe they can't link to an app that doesn't exist on both boxes. Only guessing.

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It’s an omission, rather than a bug.

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It's all working fine here (apart from the failure to identify UHD programmes when doing a VM search). Have you tried re-booting? This normally sorts out issues such as these.

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Rebooted yes

The back button also doesn't work have to press yellow to get back to the home screen of prime

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It is the button marked 'back' and not the back button ' < '

All is working fine here.

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If you've got Talking Pictures and Film Four, you need pay for nothing else. All that glitters isn't new. Don't how folks have the time to watch all these channels/streaming rip offs.

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They're no more rip offs, as you put it, than any other content provider, in fact they can be very cheap, depending on what you want to watch.

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I find this and invaluable source of info in regards to movies on TV that's in line with my package.

https://nextfilm.uk/

I can always find 10 to 15 movies I'd like to watch without a subscription to Sky Movies, Netflix or Amazon. Freeview and basic pay TV channels are a treasure trove of quality movies.

I bought my 5 year old son a Youview box for his room. Over Christmas and Easter I recorded nearly 40 animated movies from the likes of Disney and Pixar that where broadcast on the BBC, ITV and other free channels. Also recorded 7 of the Star Wars movies in HD. He loves it. It's like his own wee selection of quality movies on demand.

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Day 2 and still not working

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/07/10.jpg

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Yuk! No error code :(

Do you have your V6 directly connected to the SuperHub and the Hub in standard router mode, or a more esoteric setup?

Does the HDMI cable go straight from V6 to TV, or do you also have other equipment such as an amp connected?

What make & model TV do you have?

What Video Output Format setting do you have on the V6?

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I have 2 V6 boxes it's working on one box/TV but not the other.

• Both are connected by WiFi
  
• I've never changed the router mode
  
• Directly connected by HDMI
  
• LG 40UB800V
  
• Video Output Format is defaulted

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Re done the video output to 'auto detect' and it's now working

:)

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Excellent. Did you notice what format it was before, and what is it now?