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Looking at those prices obviously someone is taking a bit hit as the season ticket is discounted quite considerably compared to those figures when you add it all up.
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My feeling is VM took the "hit" if you want to call it that and offset by upselling of other items such as broadband/TV/telephone. They obviously felt it was obviously worth it to lock people into a year contract for existing and new customers. I cant see sky helping VM on this one as its simply wasnt in their interest to do so and risk losing their own customers to VM
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Don't think the 'hit' would have been that big. From memory, I paid £150 for 9 months and will pay another £29.50 (I think) x3 which works out at £20 per month over a full year.
Ofcom indicates that there is no set price for HD and there may well exist a deal between Sky & VM which provides the channels at a cost lower than the £25.34 stated for SD due to the sheer volume involved. VM purportedly have 4 million subscribers and if 1 in 4 took the deal, Sky could have ended up with a nice lump sum of £150 meeellion!! You'd need to buy a lotta lotto (see what I did there, can't find the groan smiley thing) tickets to get that much in one hit. Just thinkin' out loud. |
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If VM charge for BT Sport, l certainly wont pay for it. I think the channel is crap, with lousy commentators and that horrible logo, which interferes with the viewing
If they have paid so much money for the rights, that's there problem. When you think VM increases there prices when they like. On Sky, they increase ONCE a year |
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Well go back to Sky as you do have that choice Arthur if you don't like Virgins price rises.
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Sky Sports and Matchroom extend their exclusive boxing deal to 2021.
http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/new...g-deal-to-2021 |
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Premier Sports set to launch HD channel in July.
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An interesting article in the Telegraph regarding the battle between BT and Sky Sports, and the reason for Sky's advertising blitz for subscribers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...fans-cash.html Edited Sky and BT are in their own cup final for football fans’ cash Sky is trying to sign people up to pay-tv contracts now for one, simple reason: next season Sky Sports will have no live coverage of the Champions League or Europa League A new battle over the money in football, between BT and Sky, will start officially after FA Cup Final between Arsenal and Aston Villa. Skirmishes have already begun. Outside Tube stations in London and in shopping centres up and down the country, Sky marketers are working harder than ever to sign up fans to new pay-TV contracts before they realise what is coming next season. The reason for all this activity, and Sky’s attempts to lock its customers into new contracts now, is simple. Next season Sky Sports will have no live coverage of the Champions League or Europa League. From a business point of view, this is not news. BT agreed in November 2013 to pay £897m to secure three years of exclusive live broadcast rights to both European club competitions. The raid wiped more than a tenth off Sky share price in a day. What is important is that most Sky Sports subscribers did not notice at the time, so the real world commercial impact is yet to be felt. Some of those who pay £35 a month and upwards for Sky Sports will be surprised to learn they will no longer be able to watch the Premier League’s top teams in Europe’s top competition. Some might even be a bit annoyed. BT is counting on it. It has invested heavily not only in the Uefa screening rights but also in people and technology designed to fully exploit them. The big push will begin a week on Tuesday when the company will host a launch of “the next exciting chapter in the BT Sport story” at its television studios in the Olympic Park. We know that new technology will be at the centre of this pitch to consumers. BT will seek to tempt Sky subscribers by unveiling a new set-top box capable of delivering ultra-high-definition pictures, to those few who have so far invested in a screen that is capable of showing them. What will matter most to the market and to Sky, however, is how much the new chapter of BT Sport is going to cost people. The steep price of the Uefa rights means that BT will be unable to repeat the tactic it used, when it launched its Premier League coverage, of offering its channels free to broadband subscribers. Executives have said since it signed the rights deal that it will have to introduce charges to help cover its European football costs. BT Sport is likely, nevertheless, to remain significantly cheaper than Sky Sports, and John Petter, the head of BT’s consumer business, has hinted as such. Petter is also certain to redouble efforts in the pubs and clubs market, a highly profitable segment for Sky. Live Champions League clashes are vital to attracting midweek trade through the winter months for many landlords. Some might, then, question the value they get from a Sky subscription, even though they will continue to show the majority of Premier League matches. The questions are then around how BT will package European football for consumers. Will it be part of a new premium tier of BT Sport with its own channel? Will there be discounts for those who subscribe to superfast rather than standard broadband? These are tactical secrets BT is guarding closely until the launch in an effort to ambush Sky once again. It is another example of how, in the past three years or so, the dominant pay-TV operator — where the Murdoch gene for commercial aggression remains strong despite the lower family profile — has been increasingly forced into defensive mode. A company that is used to creating markets, being the first with new technology and taking market share from rivals, is now under sustained attack. But Sky has shown that it can defend just as aggressively as it can attack. It has responded to BT’s offer of free Premier League football by giving away broadband. And while BT is betting on ultra-HD, Sky has accelerated its own new set-top box, also expected to debut this summer. It will emphasise connectivity and the ability to access programmes via multiple devices away from the living room rather than picture quality, at least to start with. That plan makes perfect sense, given trends in viewer behaviour and the success of Sky’s mobile apps. Yet it highlights the fundamental challenge Sky must face in the next few years from rivals, not only BT, but also Liberty Global, the European empire of America’s cable king John Malone, which includes Virgin Media. They own internet infrastructure, whereas Sky is merely a tenant. As more programming is delivered over the internet and viewers expect to be able to access it anywhere whenever they want, owning the wires and mobile masts will become a greater and greater advantage compared with satellite broadcasting. Big, global bets are being made on that basis; witness Malone’s $56bn takeover of Time Warner Cable this week and his public courtship of Vodafone in Europe. The 12pc stake in BT that Deutsche will take as a result of the former’s acquisition of EE can be viewed as another bet on the value of large-scale network ownership, albeit a bet with more Teutonic caution built in. If those bets come off, then Sky in its current form could have a problem. It is reshaping itself in two main ways that may help it compete long term. First, it is building scale of its own as it integrates Sky Deutschland and Sky Italia. By all accounts the £200m annual savings executives have predicted from the takeovers are underestimated. Secondly, the success of Now TV, the company’s internet pay-TV service, not only defends against Netflix, but could also signal a long-term option for the company. Although Now TV is much cheaper than a satellite subscription, recruiting customers is quicker and cheaper for Sky, not least because it does not involve sending out engineers to fix up dishes. A future Sky focused on Now TV might not be able to charge pay-TV customers as much, but it could have many millions more of them in more countries. Sky is surely thinking about such possibilities, though the more pressing concern is obviously this summer’s clash with BT. For pay-TV subscribers, if not those who enjoyed watching European football free on ITV, the intensified competition should mean some good deals are offered. They just have to wait for BT to make its move. |
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The press love to overplay these sort of things , time will tell how successful BT are with its Champions League contract personally I think they vastly overpaid that said so did Sky for the next set of EPL rights.
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The only thing that is certain is that the customer will foot the bill exponentially.
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Sky want to retain custom and BT are interested in attracting it , I'd expect new services for example 4K better interactive coverage etc not sure where VM fit in though as you can bet they'll keep these services exclusive to their own platforms. |
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Time will tell Den , VM arguably offer the easiest solution to sport all on one bill at the moment , going forward though I do believe both BT Sport and Sky Sports will look to enhance their offerings both have certainly mentioned 4K which will certainly be a niche market early on.
BT have also mentioned a HD multiscreen interactive champions league facility whether this will be available on all platforms remains to be seen. BT are going to announce their Champions League product/pricing on June 9th. |
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Just to let you know guys, I called up to cancel my sky sports as my season ticket runs out on Saturday
I was offered half price for 3 months, 14 pounds something which is basically what the season ticket cost so happy to run with that for an ashes summer Only available to sky sports season ticket holders ---------- Post added at 09:22 ---------- Previous post was at 09:20 ---------- He basically told me they were hoping to hang on to sky sports customers until they could offer another season ticket, that wasn't definite but that's what they hope to be able to do ---------- Post added at 09:38 ---------- Previous post was at 09:22 ---------- The sales guys wanted that to run from now but the cs guy managed to have it add on from Sunday so got the full value :) |
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Tried cancelling mine (SS Season Pass) and was told I'd be better off leaving things as it would be more expensive if I cancelled because I was on some Sports Package - said I didn't want or ask for a 'Sports Package' but she insisted I was better off keeping it. Next day (yesterday), I received the usual email 'Your bill is ready' cheeky lot had put it up by £17 - part month @ £29.25pm. Haven't had time to call yet but I wiil be this afternoon.
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Better off keeping it and your bill goes up by 30 quid a month. Is that incompetence or something else, that's outrageous from them
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Gary Lineker to front BT Sport Champions League coverage.
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Rang VM again today, MUTV was still on - pointless as I have it in HD on Sky... explained my previous call where I was told I was better off keeping Sky Sports but that my bill had gone up. Was told AGAIN, 'yes you're better off keeping it as you'd be app. £7pm worse off'. Said that I found this unbelievable as my package was £43pm this time last year, added Sky Sports & MUTV and now you want £115pm. Cut a long story, they came up with the excuse that I'd be worse off if I cancelled Sports NOW but If I wait 3 weeks to cancel my package will drop to £76!! When I asked why VM take our money a month in advance but won't cancel a service earlier than 7 days, she didn't know. End result, all sports are gone and future bills of £76.
What they seem to be using is "if you cancel now, you'll lose money" - technically they are correct but they don't offer the info that you'll be better off next month. Shoddy & disappointing VM. EDIT: My earlier post said £29.25 but apparently it's £31.25 for SS now. |
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Totally honest with you all, is that l have been seriously thinking about going to Sky, apart from the channel content. They only increase prices ONCE a year.
Didn't VM put there price up three times last year ? |
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Yes l gathered that.;):D
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Gary Lineker to stay as BBC Match of the Day host.
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Sky Sports' Champions League viewing dives in 'worst year ever' for audiences.
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It seems to be in BT's interests to have this new Europe channel on Virgin Media....
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Think you jumped ahead a bit there MB, the link doesn't necessarily have anything to do with VM - just that BT's BB customers won't be paying. Puts pressure on VM (and Sky) I would think.
I believe BT are playing the long game and we won't see the results of their move into TV & sport until 2018-2020 when BT's GFast technology becomes widely available. That's when VM should worry. Best news is there was no mention of Andy Townsend. |
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First game on BT Sport Ultra HD will be Chelsea v Arsenal in the Community Shield on August 2nd
I hate to think what the new set top box will cost will be surprised if its under £150 |
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Quite shocked they are still going to offer BT Sports for free to Infinity customers. I hope they come to an agreement with VM, but I'm sure a price hike will on the horizon at the very least.
On a side note, it's good to see 4K is about to take off in the UK. |
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Well until August it seems the speculation on actually what will happen is likely to go into overdrive.:Yes::no::spin::Yes::no:
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Won't be long till sky get into the 4K market they won't want to lag behind BT for too long
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From Twitter
Virgin Media @virginmedia 19m19 minutes ago Great line-up #BTSportEurope. @virginmedia customers more details on your sports line-up coming soon. Virgin Media @virginmedia 15m15 minutes ago @virginmedia We’re in talks with BT Sport Europe about adding the new channel to our existing sporting action! |
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Good so with luck VM will get the channel now is a case of whether it will cost extra!
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If i have heard the radio ad right BT Europe is only free if you re contract from 18 months?
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---------- Post added at 21:15 ---------- Previous post was at 21:04 ---------- From [sub req'd]: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...089194.article BT is preparing to offer Netflix in ultra high definition and Sky Sports channels in high definition as it prepares to launch its latest Youview set top box. The broadcaster will launch BT Sport Ultra HD on 2 August which will feature selected Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup and Aviva Premiership rugby games. It will be accessed via a dedicated Ultra HD Youview set top box, manufactured by Humax, which is currently being trialled in certain BT homes. Pricing of the 1TB box which can record 250 hours of HD programming, along with subscription costs for the channel, will be unveiled within the next few weeks. The Ultra HD box will also support Netflix’s Ultra HD streaming service, which is currently only available via a range of connected TVs. The £8.99 per month VoD service currently requires an internet connection of 25 megabits per second. BT will further bolster its high definition offering with the launch of Sky Sports 1 and 2 HD. It currently offers its subscribers the sports channels in standard definition but is keen to expand the offering to enable its Ultra HD subscribers to view as much high definition programming as possible. Red button coverage As a key part of its European football coverage BT Sport is to offer access to eight live Champions League games and 24 Europa League games simultaneously via its connected red button. Along with full match coverage the red button service will enable subscribers to view an array of statistics and scores from other games. They will also be able to use a companion app on a tablet or mobile device to view video highlights, replays and access different camera angles or watch a different game at the same time. |
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To all those who took out Sky Sports Season ticket last year:
Check your bill this month as the season ticket will not expire and cut off Sky Sports, it will carry on and charge you at full price. I have just queried this with CS and they refunded me with no quibbles so if you're one of those customers that cancels Sky Sports once the football season is over then you might want to make that call. |
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Called to check the expiry date of my season ticket this morning. I subscribe to Premier Sports (for the NRL) and they told me its free to XL customers for the next 2 months (for the Copa America I think) and that I wouldn't be charged.
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Interesting article on BT's future aspirations for it's TV product.
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In my opinion and l looked at this earlier they still have a mountain to climb in my opinion to rival Sky.
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AMC to Launch in the U.K. this September Exclusively on BT TV
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Personally think that's a good move for BT and it's TV service , people want exclusive content.
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And they also still seem rather keen on paying top dollar for exclusive content.
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Wow, that's a bit of a coup for BT.
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I wonder if VM will ever make Discovery stable of channels, exclusive to VM. Doesn't the LG owner, own those channels? That being said, I am not sure if it would make sense due to loss of ad revenue. |
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Sky sports monthly pass is coming to now TV in time for the new football season costing £31.99 a month
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Setanta's sale of its non-European channels continues. It has sold Setanta Sports Asia to Discovery.
This comes after the sale of Setanta Sports Australia (to beIN in 2013) and Setanta Sports Africa (to Fox in 2014). Interestingly, there is no mention of re-branding Setanta Sports Asia unlike the other two sales. I wonder if Discovery could end up buying up the rest of Setanta (Setanta Sports Ireland, NI, Premier Sports and Euro-Asia) to merge them with EuroSport? |
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BT Sports pricing on Sky - no news yet on VM
http://www.a516digital.com/2015/06/b...e-for-sky.html Stump up Sky boys |
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I cancelled mine , being that I have BT Broadband it would be cheaper for me to add BT TV.
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"In addition to BT Sport 1, BT Sport 2, BT Sport Europe and BT Sport ESPN, Sky viewers will have access to 6 BT Sport Extra streams providing extra coverage of the Champions League, compared to 7 BT Sport Extra streams available via BT TV on YouView."
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I'll be very interested to see the effect on BT Sports subscribers across the board now that everyone except BT TV (& possibly VM) have to pay for it. |
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Seeing a lot of virgin media adverts about getting sky sports. Worries me they've stopped mentioning bt sport in them...
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Indeed as l am sure there are many who would like to see other channels arrive rather then a new XL pack sports deal.
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