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Hom3r 03-03-2013 18:29
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
So not only do they take out a spurs player, they don't put the ball out of play so they can receive treatment.

Arsenal are not gentlemen.

Damien 03-03-2013 18:33
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35543925)
So not only do they take out a spurs player, they don't put the ball out of play so they can receive treatment.

Arsenal are not gentlemen.
Oh give it a rest. I didn't see Spurs put it out for their second goal.
:rolleyes:

denphone 03-03-2013 18:41
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Arsenal's Champions League hopes are hanging by a thread if nowt is gained from this match.

Damien 03-03-2013 18:56
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:(

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Almost did it.

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Top 4 falling away. 5 points behind Chelsea.

denphone 03-03-2013 18:57
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The most worrying thing for a Arsenal supporter has to be that currently they are London's third club.

thenry 03-03-2013 19:32
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schoolboy defending and final third. play in the middle of the park was decent though.

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let Bould take care of the defenders
bring back Dein

or remove the current board and majority shareholder

tbh for Dein to be brought back PHW, Ivan and Stan would have to go.

Russ 03-03-2013 20:08
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35543423)
There's nothing to get Russ, your hypothesis is hopelessly flawed as it completely ignored the facts.
(Sigh)

OK let me dumb it right down to your level.

The job of managing one of the the biggest and most successful teams in the world is more likely to go to someone with experience at that particular level. Sentimentality and popularity does not come in to it.

Laudrup has not had success at the sort of level you would expect to be a candidate for that job.

Now if you still claim to not be able to get the point then you're either a wind-up merchant or your grasp of football really is non-existent.

TheDaddy 03-03-2013 21:31
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35543983)
(Sigh)

OK let me dumb it right down to your level.

The job of managing one of the the biggest and most successful teams in the world is more likely to go to someone with experience at that particular level. Sentimentality and popularity does not come in to it.

Laudrup has not had success at the sort of level you would expect to be a candidate for that job.

Now if you still claim to not be able to get the point then you're either a wind-up merchant or your grasp of football really is non-existent.
who you dumbing down for Russ, if you'd said that in the first place I wouldn't even have commented but instead you had to keep insisting that Swansea was his first and only management job, perhaps if you'd bothered to pay any sort of attention to your managers career you wouldn't need to dumb down for others benefit.

Hom3r 03-03-2013 22:36
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35543930)
Arsenal's Champions League hopes are hanging by a thread if nowt is gained from this match.
The way they are playing I would say Europa League as well.

Arthurgray50@blu 03-03-2013 23:55
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
It was a great result for us, it proves once again that Arsenal are a pathetic picture of what they used to be, they tried there offside trap twice and it didn't work and we scored two fantastic goals.

Wenger needs to bring in new faces at The Emirates, Walcott is not the player everyone thinks he is, Bale is out of this world, l just hope and pray that we will qualify for the CL, and that Levy digs into his pocket and signs Bale on a long term contract worth a lot of money.

Bale is a great player and l personally don't think he will go abroad, he prefers his beloved Wales too much.

Arsenal WE are now Londons top team.

MalteseFalcon 04-03-2013 00:30
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No chance Arthur. Chelsea are still better than the ****. And that is from someone who hates Chelsea more than they hate scummy Tottenham.

thenry 04-03-2013 00:49
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heard it all before. we'll see when Bale signs elsewhere.

denphone 04-03-2013 08:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544075)
heard it all before. we'll see when Bale signs elsewhere.
Bale will go and of that there is no doubt.

Russ 04-03-2013 08:30
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35544012)
who you dumbing down for Russ, if you'd said that in the first place I wouldn't even have commented but instead you had to keep insisting that Swansea was his first and only management job, perhaps if you'd bothered to pay any sort of attention to your managers career you wouldn't need to dumb down for others benefit.
I'm sorry. I'll refrain from assuming you understand footballing analogies in future.

denphone 04-03-2013 13:37
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Liverpool debt rises to £87.2m.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...=feeds-newsxml

Building a new stadium or enlarging Anfield would help increase revenues in the medium to long term as the support is there to have crowds of 70,000 for every game.

Damien 04-03-2013 13:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35544180)
Liverpool debt rises to £87.2m.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...=feeds-newsxml

Building a new stadium or enlarging Anfield would help increase revenues in the medium to long term as the support is there to have crowds of 70,000 for every game.
It's very hard to build a stadium especially if you're already in a lot of debt. How are the expansion plans going?

denphone 04-03-2013 13:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35544182)
It's very hard to build a stadium especially if you're already in a lot of debt. How are the expansion plans going?
Apparently it remains on course but the sooner it happens the better as having a capacity of 44,000 these days is pitiful compared to the giants of Europe..

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-32917317/

denphone 04-03-2013 16:33
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West Ham closing on Olympic Stadium deal according to David Gold.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21658539

thenry 04-03-2013 16:53
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Barcelona sign shirt sponsorship deal with Qatar Airways worth $45m a year

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226590324161

TheDaddy 04-03-2013 16:59
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35544098)
I'm sorry. I'll refrain from assuming you understand footballing analogies in future.
And I'll refrain from assuming you know anything about footballing facts in the future to.

denphone 04-03-2013 17:07
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544274)
Barcelona sign shirt sponsorship deal with Qatar Airways worth $45m a year

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226590324161
Not a bad little earner is it.

thenry 04-03-2013 17:21
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35544180)
Liverpool debt rises to £87.2m.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...=feeds-newsxml

Building a new stadium or enlarging Anfield would help increase revenues in the medium to long term as the support is there to have crowds of 70,000 for every game.
Quote:
#LFC 2012 results have been announced. Please note that they only cover 10 months up to 31 May 2012, as club has changed accounting date.

#LFC 2012 loss before tax £40.5m, an improvement on 2011 loss of £49.3m.

#LFC 2012 revenue £169.0m down from £183.6m, due to 10 months accounting period (impacts commercial, but not match day & media revenue).

Exceptional costs again hit #LFC 2012 accounts: £9.6m termination payments (mainly coaching staff) & £0.8m legal fees (UKSV acquisition). UK branch of Fenway Sports Group (the American owners).

Correcting transfer strategy also hurt #LFC 2012 a/c: loss on player sales £1.7m (2011 £43.3m profit) & write-down of player values £8.9m.

#LFC 2012 staff costs (excluding £9.6m exceptional charges) £109.2m for 10 months, which implies annual wage bill of around £131m.
Did wages include payoffs to overpaid players let go? Or were they separate?
Total staff costs £119m, but that included the £10m termination payments made to departing staff, so underlying wage bill £109m.

#LFC 2012 net debt up from £65.4m to £87.2m: £69.9m to bank & £22.2m to UKSV less £4.9m cash. In Aug UKSV put in £46.8m reducing bank debt.

#LFC 2012 revenue £169.0m (2011 £183.6m): match day £42.3m (2011 £40.9m), media £62.8m (2011 £65.3m), commercial £63.9m (2011 £77.4m).

Ignoring timing adjs, main moves in #LFC results: £45m fall in profit on player sales, £49m lower exceptional costs, £9m player write-downs.
What was players amortization cost for the whole period - only 9M?
Player amortisation £33.8m (2011 £36.3m). On top of that player write-downs (impairment) £8.9m.

This doesn't include the warrior deal or the chevrolet deals does it? Will they reduce the debt?
No, both deals only start from 2012-13 season. They will help, as will new Premier League TV deal.

Challenges are stadium expansion, European qualification (pref CL) and controlling wage bill. Oh, and stop sacking people!

re LFC, is it true to say that a lot of the debt is owed to the owners rather than external debt?
Not at time of accounts, but since then (Aug 12) owners have replaced much of bank debt with owner debt.

Not detailed in LFC accounts, but Swansea's accounts included £5m received as compensation, presumably for BR.

Net debt of £87.2m: £69.9m to bank & £22.2m to owners less £4.9m cash. In August owners put in £46.8m reducing bank debt.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble


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Napoli join Sanchez queue

http://www.football-italia.net/31456...-sanchez-queue

thenry 05-03-2013 14:37
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Manchester United signs sponsorship deal with Danish bank

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....r-year-1720095

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35543809)
Ashley Williams eyed up by Liverpool as Martin Skrtel replacement.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...L68D48.twitter

:Yes::Yes:
Arsenal plan £8m summer move for Swansea captain Ashley Williams
• Arsène Wenger wants Wales skipper to shore up defence
• Competition for 28-year-old likely to come from Liverpool
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ity?CMP=twt_gu

8mil :LOL:

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Inter have opted to fine Antonio Cassano €40,000 after his training ground altercation with boss Andrea Stramaccioni.

http://www.football-italia.net/31496...%AC40000-inter

Damien 05-03-2013 14:38
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£8 million doesn't seem that out of wack to me. Between £8 million to £12 million is alright.

thenry 05-03-2013 14:39
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Time Stan gave us... ANSWERS

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...s-ANSWERS.html

Russ 05-03-2013 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35544276)
And I'll refrain from assuming you know anything about footballing facts in the future to.
This coming from someone who claims Man United are on a West Ham-style decline :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry
Arsenal plan £8m summer move for Swansea captain Ashley Williams
• Arsène Wenger wants Wales skipper to shore up defence
• Competition for 28-year-old likely to come from Liverpool
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ity?CMP=twt_gu
Why would he want to move to lesser clubs?

Uncle Peter 05-03-2013 14:45
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Ha, can't see Ashley Williams agent's fax machine being too busy in the summer. No need to order a new toner lad.

denphone 05-03-2013 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544569)

Arsenal plan £8m summer move for Swansea captain Ashley Williams
• Arsène Wenger wants Wales skipper to shore up defence
• Competition for 28-year-old likely to come from Liverpool
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ity?CMP=twt_gu

8mil :LOL:
l would say he odds on to go to Liverpool according to sources close to the player.

thenry 05-03-2013 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35544574)
£8 million doesn't seem that out of wack to me. Between £8 million to £12 million is alright.
Swansea will no doubt ask for more. inflation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35544576)
Why would he want to move to lesser clubs?
you need to see a doctor.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544575)
Denver sports magnate Stan Kroenke’s Kroenke Sports & Entertainment has made a competing offer for the Outdoor Channel, a deal which seems to trump an earlier agreement between the hunting and fishing network and Sportsman Channel parent InterMedia Holdings.

http://www.multichannel.com/networks...outdoor/142031

adzii_nufc 05-03-2013 15:01
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35544056)
It was a great result for us, it proves once again that Arsenal are a pathetic picture of what they used to be, they tried there offside trap twice and it didn't work and we scored two fantastic goals.

Wenger needs to bring in new faces at The Emirates, Walcott is not the player everyone thinks he is, Bale is out of this world, l just hope and pray that we will qualify for the CL, and that Levy digs into his pocket and signs Bale on a long term contract worth a lot of money.

Bale is a great player and l personally don't think he will go abroad, he prefers his beloved Wales too much.

Arsenal WE are now Londons top team.
You know Chelsea is in London right?

denphone 05-03-2013 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35544576)
This coming from someone who claims Man United are on a West Ham-style decline :D



Why would he want to move to lesser clubs?
Stay and get the same pay packet or leave and double his wages.;)

Damien 05-03-2013 15:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35544576)
Why would he want to move to lesser clubs?
Well he might want to play European Football and win titles. However if he doesn't want to do that then he is more than welcome at Arsenal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35544579)
l would say he odds on to go to Liverpool according to sources close to the player.
I imagine Liverpool are more likely to thrown money at him than Arsenal are so that is probably true. That said I don't see Liverpool being able to do that anymore unless they sell Suarez. Liverpool's big spending is probably over now, but at least you have Downing, Henderson and Carroll to show for it. :D

denphone 05-03-2013 15:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35544590)
Well he might want to play European Football and win titles. However if he doesn't want to do that then he is more than welcome at Arsenal.



I imagine Liverpool are more likely to thrown money at him than Arsenal are so that is probably true. That said I don't see Liverpool being able to do that anymore unless they sell Suarez. Liverpool's big spending is probably over now, but at least you have Downing, Henderson and Carroll to show for it. :D
Indeed King Kenny and his knowledge of the transfer market.:td:

thenry 05-03-2013 20:12
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OT

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...3/45.jpg:large

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Manchester United v Real Madrid (1-1 agg)
Quote:
Man Utd: De Gea, Rafael, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Cleverley, Nani, Giggs, Welbeck, Van Persie.
Subs: Lindegaard, Evans, Valencia, Rooney, Hernandez, Young, Kagawa.

Real Madrid: Diego López, Varane, Ramos, Coentrão, Khedira, Cristiano Ronaldo, Özil, Xabi Alonso, Arbeloa, HiguaÃ*n, Di MarÃ*a.
Subs: Adán, Pepe, Kaká, Benzema, Albiol, Modric, Callejón.

Dortmund v Shakhtar Donetsk (2-2 agg)
Quote:
Dortmund: Weidenfeller, Piszczek, Subotić, Schmelzer, Felipe Santana, Błaszczykowski, Bender, Gündogan, Götze, Lewandowski, Reus.
Subs: Kehl, Leitner, Şahin, Großkreutz, Langerak, Schieber, Bittencourt.

Shakhtar Donetsk: Pyatov, Srna, Kucher, Raţ, Rakitskiy, Hübschman, Fernandinho, Alex Teixeir, Mkhitaryan, Luiz Adriano, Taison.
Subs: Stepanenko, Eduardo Da Silva, Kobin, Gai, Douglas Costa, Kanibolotskiy, Krivtsov.

nstokes 05-03-2013 20:27
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Beer = Check
Phone line unplugged = Check
Amp on loud = Check
ITV HD on TV = Check
Sitting comfortably = Check

Time for the big game. Come on Man Utd. Lets beat them Real **** #RedDevils

Edit:on beer 3 now

denphone 05-03-2013 20:33
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35544706)
Beer = Check
Phone line unplugged = Check
Amp on loud = Check
ITV HD on TV = Check
Sitting comfortably = Check

Time for the big game. Come on Man Utd. Lets beat them Real **** #RedDevils

Edit:on beer 3 now
Tissues just in case :bigcry::bigcry:

Russ 05-03-2013 20:34
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Congratulations to Real Madrid.

thenry 05-03-2013 20:47
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great service, 80m and they still boo.

Russ 05-03-2013 20:51
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Probably because they know he'll score the goal(s) that put us out.

sherer 05-03-2013 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544718)
great service, 80m and they still boo.
not sure why they are doing it. With his roots he was always going to end up playing in Spain and was a fantastic servant to us who has never said a bad word against us. Even read a few reports saying he may even come back to us at some point if Real decide to sell

denphone 05-03-2013 21:44
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Barcelona set Valdes price after rejecting opening Arsenal offer.

Quote:
Barcelona are demanding €20 million for goalkeeper Victor Valdes.

Sport says Barca have slapped the price-tag on Valdes after receiving - and rejecting - a €12 million offer from Arsenal for the Spain international.

thenry 05-03-2013 21:48
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we'll either miss out or itll drag out forever. just sign Stekelenburg and be done with it.

denphone 05-03-2013 21:50
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:cleader::cleader:

danielf 05-03-2013 21:50
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Quality finish...

thenry 05-03-2013 21:57
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:LOL:

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huh?

denphone 05-03-2013 21:58
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A truly shocking decision by the referee.:td::td::(:(

Russ 05-03-2013 22:01
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So United get all the decisions at Old Trafford?

denphone 05-03-2013 22:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35544752)
So United get all the decisions at Old Trafford?
l cannot possibly comment on decisions in other games but there is no excuses in a huge game like this to make such a outrageous decision that can have such a bearing on the rest of the match.

thenry 05-03-2013 22:08
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what.a.goal.

danielf 05-03-2013 22:11
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
I thought the previous one was better.

denphone 05-03-2013 22:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544756)
what.a.goal.
This game has been ruined by that bloody nincompoop.

thenry 05-03-2013 22:12
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35544760)
I thought the previous one was better.
Romas OG?

danielf 05-03-2013 22:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544764)
Romas OG?
No. :)

thenry 05-03-2013 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35544762)
This game has been ruined by this bloody nincompoop.
ye. got to admit Fergie again! pulls yet another rabbit in tac out the bag.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35544765)
No. :)
meant to say Ramos.

we're on about the same goal, Modrics beauty

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the trains on. should make for a lively 5 or so minutes

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oh here we go. careful it might backfire

denphone 05-03-2013 22:34
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And he has just made another poor decision as it was a clear penalty.:(:td:

thenry 05-03-2013 22:37
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UEFA might as well fax Fergies touchline ban over now.

denphone 05-03-2013 22:39
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Call me a cynic but I reckon the referee got a brown envelope at half time with a wad load of cash in it!

thenry 05-03-2013 22:42
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hes from Turkey. 'nuffsaid'

Shadow Demon UK 05-03-2013 22:45
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Ruined by a Turkish ****...i have never seen such a bad decision.

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And Mourinho can **** off too, we don't want your sympathy

thenry 05-03-2013 22:46
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surprised Rio didnt get booked.

denphone 05-03-2013 22:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35544778)
Ruined by a Turkish ****...i have never seen such a bad decision.

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And Mourinho can **** off too, we don't want your sympathy
And Roy Keane has just made himself look like a brainless idiot by saying it was a red card.

Sirius 05-03-2013 22:48
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35544778)
Ruined by a Turkish ****...i have never seen such a bad decision.

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And Mourinho can **** off too, we don't want your sympathy
Could not have put that any better :tu:

Shadow Demon UK 05-03-2013 22:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35544782)
And Roy Keane has just made himself look like a brainless idiot by saying it was a red card.
It doesn't surprise me, theres a lot of bitterness between Keane and United/Ferguson.

denphone 05-03-2013 22:53
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35544785)
It doesn't surprise me, theres a lot of bitterness between Keane and United/Ferguson.
And this is the man who brutally went out to maim Alf Inge Haaland on purpose.

thenry 05-03-2013 22:58
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
so ITV have mixed views. tune into SS2 now for Skys

adzii_nufc 05-03-2013 22:59
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...06767247_n.jpg

Remember the time RVP took a ball to the head and nearly 'died'.. How is it Nani kicks a guy and it tickles?

Damien 05-03-2013 23:11
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The red card wasn't that outrageous a decision let's get some perspective here. It was certainly harsh but if you go in with your leg raised you're giving the ref a decision to make. I've seen those decisions given before so I think it's a bit disingenuous for everyone to act like it's a massive shock rather that simply a harsh decision.

thenry 05-03-2013 23:19
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its dangerous but common sense normally comes into play when you see a player doesnt have eyes on the other player and rather the ball. a yellow is normally then issued, 1 more foul after that and youre off.

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no Fergie post match interview. wise choice.

Damien 05-03-2013 23:23
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544800)
its dangerous but common sense normally comes into play when you see a player doesnt have eyes on the other player and rather the ball. a yellow is normally then issued, 1 more foul after that and youre off.
Yeah I agree. I don't think it was a red but just pointing out that it isn't that outlandish a decision, the kind you often see and aren't surprised by. Especially when the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay and just sees a player goes in with a high leg and both players hit the floor.

sherer 05-03-2013 23:24
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544800)
its dangerous but common sense normally comes into play when you see a player doesnt have eyes on the other player and rather the ball. a yellow is normally then issued, 1 more foul after that and youre off.

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no Fergie post match interview. wise choice.
agree here. Nani didn't even know the other player was there. Also in slow motion i'm not sure why the player had to roll over 15 times and hold onto part of his body that wasn't even touched.

We were just as bad with Rafael screaming in pain when a defender touched his arms :shocked:

At least UEFA made millions out of the game so no reason to look into into the small cheating that was going on

thenry 06-03-2013 01:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35544802)
Yeah I agree. I don't think it was a red but just pointing out that it isn't that outlandish a decision, the kind you often see and aren't surprised by. Especially when the ref doesn't have the benefit of a replay and just sees a player goes in with a high leg and both players hit the floor.
the refs sent Nani off for a dangerous challenge but its unintentional. the ref had a good view, the last replay view from behind the goal ITV showed shows the line of view the ref roughly had plus if you see the live direct view theres hardly any players in and around the view the ref had. did the ref ask the 4th official who had the reverse view to his position

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35544803)
agree here. Nani didn't even know the other player was there. Also in slow motion i'm not sure why the player had to roll over 15 times and hold onto part of his body that wasn't even touched.

We were just as bad with Rafael screaming in pain when a defender touched his arms :shocked:

At least UEFA made millions out of the game so no reason to look into into the small cheating that was going on
UEFA can do one. they screwed us a fair few times including the RVP sending off at the Nou Camp. pricks!

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:shocked: crazy Montpellier President Louis Nicollin looking to sign Raymond Domenech next season to replace Rene Girard :shocked::shocking::spin:

http://www.mercato365.com/infos-club...h-990575.shtml

---------- Post added at 23:52 ---------- Previous post was at 23:44 ----------

just a reminder that Bergkamp is getting a statue..

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/81.jpg

:LOL: Wenger should email it to Fergie.


Quote:
tim payton ‏@timpayton
If I were the UEFA match delegate I'd find a cupboard to hide in before Fergie finds me
9:11 PM - Mar 5, 2013
https://twitter.com/timpayton/status/309048475805421570
:rofl:

---------- Post added at 23:56 ---------- Previous post was at 23:52 ----------

Arsenal have to win in Germany next week. only EPL team left in the comp. it really is time to step up for 4th ;)

---------- Post added 06-03-2013 at 00:01 ---------- Previous post was 05-03-2013 at 23:56 ----------

you know Gabriel Clarke would of told Fergie post match Keane thinks its a red :LOL: wiseman didnt come out.

danielf 06-03-2013 01:04
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544807)
just a reminder that Bergkamp is getting a statue..

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/81.jpg
YAY!!!

thenry 06-03-2013 01:14
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35544778)
And Mourinho can **** off too, we don't want your sympathy
Quote:
Matt Spiro ‏@mattspiro
Mourinho on French TV: 'I don't know if it was harsh. In 2011, we lost semi-final due to unbelievable Pepe red card. This isnt end of world'
10:04 PM - Mar 5, 2013
https://twitter.com/mattspiro/status/309061791223279619


---------- Post added at 00:11 ---------- Previous post was at 00:09 ----------


Quote:
Joseph Barton ‏@Joey7Barton
I wonder why Gareth Southgate's petrified of Roy Keane on ITV's commentary? The mind boggles...
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...3/43.jpg:large
10:13 PM - Mar 5, 2013
https://twitter.com/Joey7Barton/stat...64079794905088


---------- Post added at 00:14 ---------- Previous post was at 00:11 ----------

Eboueeeeeeeee at OT remember for something similar... right call that day ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...3/44.jpg:large

iadom 06-03-2013 13:09
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Nothing similar at all in that last picture, the ball hasn't even arrived and he is putting the boot in, and he is fully aware of the United player in front of him.:rolleyes:

Damien 06-03-2013 13:50
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
I do love a good outrage story. Really disappointed Fergie didn't do a post-match interview really, it looked like it would have been fun.

thenry 06-03-2013 17:48
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35544807)
:shocked: crazy Montpellier President Louis Nicollin looking to sign Raymond Domenech next season to replace Rene Girard :shocked::shocking::spin:

http://www.mercato365.com/infos-club...h-990575.shtml
now Maradona

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie...ontrero-429904

:spin:

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Aston Villa cut losses to £17.7m

http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/...ts-losses-177m

Quote:
Detailed #AVFC 2012 results have been published: a loss after tax of £17.7m, which is a £36.2m improvement on 2011 loss of £53.9m.

Main reasons for reduced #AVFC loss: interest waived on Lerner loan £20.3m and lower player costs £20.5m (wages £13.8m, amortisation £6.7m).

Other reasons for smaller #AVFC loss: higher profit on player sales £8.1m, lower termination payments for management changes £6.1m.

On the other hand, #AVFC 2012 revenue fell £11.7m and other expenses rose £6.3m.

#AVFC 2012 revenue £80.4m (2011 £92.0m): match day £19.9m (2011 £21.4m), media £46.8m (2011 £53.9m), commercial £13.7m (2011 £16.9m).

#AVFC wage bill cut from £83.4m to £69.6m, reducing the wages to turnover ratio from 91% to 87%.

Termination payments to managers have once again hit #AVFC 2012 accounts with a £5.9m exceptional charge (£12.0m in 2011).

#AVFC 2012 profit on player sales £26.9m (2011 £18.8m), largely due to Stewart Downing to Liverpool and Ashley Young to Manchester United.

Excluding profit on player sales of £26.9m and interest waiver of £20.3m, the #AVFC 2012 loss would have been a hefty £64.9m.

In any case, #AVFC aggregate losses for last four seasons amount to a massive £155m.

#AVFC 2012 net debt up from £113.7m to £121.5m: £107.1m to Lerner and £15.1m to bank less £0.7m cash.

Randy Lerner put £10m into #AVFC in 2012, so has now provided around £240m of funding, split between loans and capital injections.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble


---------- Post added at 15:39 ---------- Previous post was at 15:37 ----------

Four game ban for Valdes

http://www.football-espana.net/28880...ame-ban-valdes

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PSG
Quote:
#PSG reported small loss of €5.5m in 2012 after revenue rose by £121m (120%), including retroactive agreement with Qatar Tourist Authority.

Think this deal is the acid test for FFP. Actually not described as sponsorship, but "publicity campaign to promote image of Qatar".

#PSG 2012 revenue €222m (2011 €101m): match day €25m ('11 €18m), media €47m ('11 €45m), commercial €25m ('11 €21m), other €125m ('11 €17m).

#PSG 2012 wage bill increased by 69% from €70m to €117m (before adding Ibra, Thiago Silva, Lavezzi, Verratti & Beckham).

For detailed analysis of PSG's strategy, I wrote this last July http://swissramble.blogspot.ch/2012/...to-action.html They have indeed gone for a "mega sponsorship deal". Reported as €150m for this season, rising to €200m in 2015/16.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble


---------- Post added at 16:16 ---------- Previous post was at 15:47 ----------

Manchester United fan calls 999 over Nani's red card

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21687292

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl:

---------- Post added at 16:48 ---------- Previous post was at 16:16 ----------

Quote:
SSN: UEFA open up disciplinary case against Utd. Nani red, Fergie not appearing for post match interview and Rio for applauding the ref sarcastically

colin25 06-03-2013 17:49
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
I was disgusted at Rio's sarcastic applauding. Ok to disagree with decision, but that was lack of respect.

denphone 06-03-2013 17:50
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35545045)
I was disgusted at Rio's sarcastic applauding. Ok to disagree with decision, but that was lack of respect.
Yes there was certainly no need to do that.

Arthurgray50@blu 06-03-2013 18:58
How stupid can you get ?
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1060967/na...-fan-dials-999


This is how stupid life gets, the fan was so incensed by what happened to Nani, he called the police.

I hope the supporter gets fined for wasting police time. Idiot.:(

dilli-theclaw 06-03-2013 19:13
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
not to mention all the other plums who waste police time

denphone 06-03-2013 19:18
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Uefa takes action against Manchester United after Real Madrid match.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21691929

As usual UEFA stick their heads in the sands like a ostrich

thenry 06-03-2013 19:55
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Juventus v Celtic (3-0 agg)
Quote:
Juventus: Buffon, Peluso, Barzagli, Bonucci, Pogba, Padoin, Pirlo, Vidal, Marrone, Quagliarella, Matri.
Subs: Storari, Chiellini, Asamoah, Giaccherini, Isla, Vučinić, Giovinco.

Celtic: Forster, Matthews, Izaguirre, Wilson, Mulgrew, Commons, Ledley, Kayal, Wanyama, Samaras, Hooper.
Subs: Załuska, Ambrose, McGeouch, Miku, Stokes, Nouioui, Forrest.

PSG v Valencia (2-1 agg)
Quote:
PSG: Sirigu, Thiago Silva, Alex, Maxwell, Jallet, Matuidi, Chantôme, Pastore, Thiago Motta, Lucas, Lavezzi.
Subs: Douchez, Sakho, Camara, Armand, Van der Wiel, Beckham, Gameiro.

Valencia: Guaita, Cissokho, Barragán, VÃ*ctor Ruiz, Mathieu, Albelda, Feghouli, Parejo, Costa, Jonas, Soldado.
Subs: Diego Alves, João Pereira, Éver Banega, Guardado, Canales, Piatti, Valdez.

denphone 06-03-2013 20:06
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Cissokho issues come and get me plea to Liverpool.

http://www.koptalk.co.uk/20130306327...liverpool.html

:Yes::Yes:

Shadow Demon UK 06-03-2013 21:25
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
"The atmosphere overwhelmed me for the first time in my career. I didn't feel comfortable. There were too many feelings, the ovation at the start of the match…"

http://www.marca.com/2013/03/06/en/f...362592383.html

I've never heard a reception like it for a player returning to a former club, it was something special.

thenry 07-03-2013 00:34
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
let's kick racism out of football

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-m0T...e_gdata_player

thenry 07-03-2013 03:34
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
I'm team Messi, are you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9zjw...e_gdata_player

:D

denphone 07-03-2013 12:32
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Andy Carroll on his way back to Liverpool?.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...roll-liverpool

Oh please not let this be true.

thenry 07-03-2013 14:35
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Brazilian Ronaldo: "I have no words for this gentleman, except that I hope the team he manages always loses," he added.
Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/196423.html#
:LOL:

denphone 07-03-2013 14:39
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Barcelona plotting Daniel Agger transfer bid.

http://www.koptalk.co.uk/20130307328...nsfer-bid.html

The sooner this over rated player goes the better.

thenry 07-03-2013 14:41
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
:rofl: I can't see that happening Den

denphone 07-03-2013 14:48
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35545441)
:rofl: I can't see that happening Den
Well miracles can happen.

thenry 07-03-2013 15:50
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
QPR's wage bill doubles - and that's even before the last two transfer windows are included in financial figures

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...l-figures.html
Quote:
#QPR 2012 results have been published: a loss before tax of £22.6m, which is a small improvement on 2011 loss of £25.4m

The impact of promotion to Premier League is clear in #QPR 2012 results with revenue rising from £16.2m to £64.0m.

Unfortunately #QPR do not analyse the £64m revenue, but we know they got £43.3m from Premier League TV deal, while gate receipts were £7.7m.

#QPR wage bill almost doubled from £29.7m to £58.5m, but wages to turnover ratio fell from 183% to 91%.

#QPR wage bill not outlandish compared to many other clubs in 2011/12, e.g. Everton £63m, Fulham £62m, Bolton £55m, Stoke £53m.

However, only Blackburn and Bolton had worse wages to turnover ratio than #QPR 91% in 2011/12 Premier League. For context, Man City was 87%.

It should be noted that the 2012 #QPR wage bill of £58.5m is before all the high-profile signings this summer and January.

Worryingly, the #QPR aggregate losses for the last four seasons amount to a sizeable £80m.

#QPR net debt is up from £56.1m to £88.9m (gross debt £90.5m less £1.6m cash).

All of #QPR debt is owed to the club’s owners and (in theory) repayable in instalments before 22 May 2014 or on demand

Owners put £39m funds into #QPR in 2012, so club has required £104m of funding in last 4 years, split between loans and capital injections.

#QPR fans will surely be hoping that the owners emulate Al Fayed at Fulham and Whelan at Wigan by converting debt into equity at some stage.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble


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Quote:
raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
forgot to tweet some gossip from Manchester: Edin Dzeko to Borussia Dortmund is "all but done", I was told. #BVB
9:34 AM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/honigstein/statu...98014555713536
Quote:
raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
Dortmund officials negotiated with Man City at QPR game in London
9:39 AM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/honigstein/statu...99149102342144
Quote:
raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
one word of caution: Dzeko to Bayern was also almost done last year, before too many agents asked for too much commission
10:19 AM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/honigstein/statu...09249296773121
Quote:
raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
Dzeko is a similar case to Balotelli, imo. Needs to be no1 striker to fully function, Man City can't/won't offer that
12:16 PM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/honigstein/statu...38719252594688
Quote:
raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
Dortmund CEO Watzke told sid that Dzeko story was "total nonsense". (Same words used by Klopp re Sahin deal in early Jan)
12:33 PM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/honigstein/statu...43056695619585


---------- Post added at 13:56 ---------- Previous post was at 13:53 ----------

Rooneys questionable future at Utd..

Quote:
raphael honigstein ‏@honigstein
btw, difference with Rooney and other players sold by SAF (Becks, RvN) is that there's no market for him. #250k #outofshape
12:08 PM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/honigstein/statu...36664865726464


---------- Post added at 14:50 ---------- Previous post was at 13:56 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35545450)
Well miracles can happen.
Quote:
Football transfer rumours: Thomas Vermaelen to Barcelona?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...enal-barcelona

Dave42 07-03-2013 16:45
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
come on Anzhi Makhachkala hammer them

denphone 07-03-2013 16:52
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35545530)
come on Anzhi Makhachkala hammer them
Nice to see a unbiased view yet again.;):D

Dave42 07-03-2013 16:53
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35545541)
Nice to see a unbiased view yet again.;):D
can never ever want nufc to win Den mate :):):)

TheDaddy 07-03-2013 18:40
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Zambrano to Liverpool

http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/prem...p#.UTjRCLvyRMI

thenry 07-03-2013 21:01
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Phil Wall ‏@AngryOfN5
More pressure from Usmanov? Now admitting to 18,661 shares, 5 short of 30%. A showdown is approaching . . .
2:02 PM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/AngryOfN5/status/309665406132576257
Quote:
Phil Wall ‏@AngryOfN5
To reiterate share situation: if/when Usmanov gets to 30%: he doesn’t get a seat on the board, have access to more info or have to make bid.
7:57 PM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/AngryOfN5/status/309754655141924864
Quote:
Phil Wall ‏@AngryOfN5
But 30% has been a longstanding R&W target, and is symbolic and will be used to put pressure on current board through media attention.
7:59 PM - Mar 7, 2013
https://twitter.com/AngryOfN5/status/309755142733975552

denphone 07-03-2013 21:12
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Its that man Bale again.

Henkesghost 07-03-2013 21:17
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35545690)
Its that man Bale again.
He's better in the air than Efe Ambrose :( Delighted for Spurs though

denphone 07-03-2013 21:19
Re: Football Season 2012/2013
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35545694)
He's better in the air than Efe Ambrose :( Delighted for Spurs though
Yes that will certainly keep those Spurs fans happy.


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