Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428602)

not Terry please. not even in the squad.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428585)

Alonso leaving is when Liverpool's midfield turned to rubbish, he never got the credit he deserved at Liverpool because he was playing next to Stephen Gerrard who instantly got any credit. Gerrard would get the attention because he was a good player who was English, because he had traits that people view as English (he did work hard, he certainly shouted a lot and looked like he was about to punch someone most of the time) and because he would do the Hollywood pass. The pass that breaks open a defence and looks amazing but rarely comes off and instead gifts possession to the opposing team. Alonso never did that, he was the true Liverpool rival to Fabregas and Scholes. Great vision, great and effective passing, rarely loses the ball and can control a game in the same way the aforementioned players could. Great player.

Alonso is now getting the credit he does deserve as one of the key players at Real Madrid. He really is that good. Him leaving Liverpool has equivalent to Fabregas living Arsenal but Liverpool never had anyone to replace him.

It's criminal he was so overlooked.

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Also Ferdinand is out of the England team for Euro 2012. Shame, always liked him. However they are concerned about his injury record.

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35428604)

Was at Harry Greggs testimonial tonight. Was a decent game - took a while to get going. Utd won 4-1 against an Irish League select. Evra, Young x 2 and Rooney the scorers.
Should have been more but Owen and Berbatov were useless in the first half - Owen missing an absolute sitter.
Overall a fitting match for a Utd legend.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428568)

Gerrard?! Ugh. Vastly overrated. Scholes and Fabregas were better midfielders than him. Lacked positional awareness and discipline, had a tendency for the glory pass rather than the simple, better options but ran around a lot, shouted a lot and showed 'heart' which compensated for it in the mind of pundits. Lampard was also better.

I tell you who else was better, Alonso.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428578)

Alonso. If only our bid for him was accepted!

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35428651)

The mans a legend full stop, not only the best goalkeeper united ever had but also the bravest what he did in Munich should never be forgotten imo. Btw this can't be his first testimonial surly.

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35428750)

Stewart Downing?? Seriously? You look at that squad and you can really see how poor the current group of England players are.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428753)

Well everybody's entitled to a opinion but l don't think we are as bad as people make out.:)

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35428754)

Jordan Henderson over Michael Carrick in the reserves is a bizarre one as well...

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428755)

Chamberlain has played only a handful of games for Arsenal and has had more assists and goals than Downing.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428755)

Chamberlain has played only a handful of games for Arsenal and has had more assists and goals than Downing.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428755)

Chamberlain has played only a handful of games for Arsenal and has had more assists and goals than Downing.

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Maybe he is trying to show up Liverpool. :erm:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35428759)

Tim Howard has scored more goals than Stewart Downing this season...

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428758)

Yes he has had more assists but he is still a bit too inexperienced for my liking for such a major tournament.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428770)

John Terry http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/us...-signs-151.gif

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428772)

Look the fact is he has been picked by our new England manager so come on thenry lets have less of the boos and more support for England.:)

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428775)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

We can criticise players, they are not immune from it because they are wrapped in the national flag.

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35428776)

It looks a poor squad. There are no outstanding talents in that squad.

Rooney can't play first two games, other strikers have had poor/average seasons, nothing special in midfield and John Terry is the best defender there so thats bad news too.

Players like Gerrard, Carrol and Downing being included show how poor the competition is for places.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428779)

l did not say we could not criticise some players but theres a difference between constructive criticism which is fair and negative criticisms just because certain people don't like certain players.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428779)

Very anti Liverpool in your tone again it seems.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428864)

BBC now reporting that he has gone.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428866)

Wonder if they will give the new guy money to spend or expect them to perform with the same team?

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428865)

Guillem Balague http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestiga...smiley-060.gif

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428871)

oh there'll be money. Liverpool are already making movements

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428872)

Oh l love it when you get excited.:)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428872)

Yes RVP has decided to join us.;)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428872)

Oh l love it when you get excited.:)

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Yes RVP has decided to join us.;)

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428878)

I'm soooooo happy that pricks been proven wrong... AGAIN!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWRZmrhb5ME

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428891)

Wonder who will take over. Martinez being mentioned...

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35428902)

We have lost the title to Man Crappy but King Kenny being sacked makes up for it. All Liverpool fans go walk alone haha

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428904)

Calm down dear as you might have a heart attack in a minute.:)

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428908)

I think it's also underestimated the damage the Suarez incident did, the owners stepped in after it got coverage in American sports news. A lot of people in the States (and frankly here, outside of Liverpool) couldn't believe the way it was handled. The t-shirts, the attacks on Evra (which remains the most pathetic aspect of the whole thing) and all the atmosphere around it.

I think that damaged his credibility in the eyes of the owners, they shouldn't be getting flack from the UK because their choice of manager can't handle it.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428912)

The owners don't care

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428912)

The owners don't care

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35428917)

The do care, its there investment at the end of the day

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428918)

They will be ruthless in their pursuit of being at the top of English football again and let there be no doubt about that.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428918)

They will be ruthless in their pursuit of being at the top of English football again and let there be no doubt about that.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428915)

Wrong they do care.

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35428919)

I agree but it will be a few years yet

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35428921)

Do they though? What about the LFC emblem on next seasons shirt? Would owners that care really do that?

Or maybe they just don't understand Liverpool.

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35428921)

Do they though? What about the LFC emblem on next seasons shirt? Would owners that care really do that?

Or maybe they just don't understand Liverpool.

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35428928)

Heres hoping Rafa Benitez will be back in a job soon. Fingers crossed :)

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35428925)

The same, simple emblem we were using 50 years ago until the turn of the premiership era? Don't see a problem with that.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428927)

What is your beef with Liverpool as you seem to be having a pop at them at every turn for no apparent reason.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35428933)

i view the Dalglish event in a similar way to the Mcleish sacking.

Mcleish was hired without support from the fans, purely on owners instinct.

Dalglish was largely taken based on fan support, but never thought he was best man for the job.

There is a balance, and i'm not sure it was done in both cases.

Appease the fans by all means, but ultimately it is owners money, not the fans

Now, Martinez seems to be wanted by both clubs.

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Dalglish says
"I am disappointed with results in the league, but I would not have swapped the Carling Cup win for anything as I know how much it meant to our fans and the club to be back winning trophies"

Do you agree denphone?

i would swap the cup for third place, 2nd, 1st in premier league

i'd swap for FA cup

Maybe even 4th, if I got champions league place

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I'll go even further...if Liverpool played exciting football every week..I'd swap the cup.

but..i am not a liverpool supporter..maybe now days they are happy with an occassional cup..and crap football :D

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428960)

Van Persies new contract is done

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428960)

Van Persies new contract is done

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35428971)

i am not disappointed...a strong arsenal isn't a bad thing.

Man city can buy another striker :D

For next season (by the way, who will start that thread, and when?), maybe we can have Man city 1st, arsenal 2nd...and Liverpool 3rd.

Ok ok, i was only kidding about liverpool, but..stranger things have happened :D

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428977)

Lets finish this season first as we have a CL final yet and remember the transfer window for next season does not open for another two weeks yet either.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35428978)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/05/16.gif

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Liverpool will are looking to sign heads that will please you.. most of them anyway.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35428977)

Lets finish this season first as we have a CL final yet and remember the transfer window for next season does not open for another two weeks yet either.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428974)

Source?

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428991)

Is this the same source that said the Vertonghen deal was done?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35428995)

His wife, days ago

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post5403.html

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35428995)

His wife, days ago

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post5403.html

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35429000)

no.

Vertonghen to Arsenal isnt dead.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35429000)

no.

Vertonghen to Arsenal isnt dead.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35429006)

those comments he made had a hint of anger in them

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35428238)

Please don't tell me you visit that site!

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35429007)

So what is the source? Otherwise I'll assume it's Twitter on which all the people are crediting 'reports' without ever specifying which 'reports' these are.

I didn't say Vertonghen to Arsenal isn't dead, however the chance there still might be a deal is obvious until he signs for us or someone else. The chance of a deal is completely different to it being 'done'.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35429016)

i was joking forget it

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35428634)

Brilliant...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cidFBz2Csfs

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35428974)

Source?

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35429043)

here... www.twitter.com/Dazzadub

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now it seems M'Vila is done

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35429074)

their not random. and its not just 1 source. i read a bit before speaking.

Guillem Balagaue stories are crap. at least what i post has common sense in it. plus hes ALWAYS wrong.

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35429075)

With Kagawa, Arsenal have "apparently" had a bid accepted, but United are still favourites by a distance. Fergie has met with the player himself.

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35429075)

The guy you linked to for the Van Persie story has 169 followers...

Originally Posted by LexDiamond (Post 35428939)

Not really an issue in general but various fan groups seem to have taken offence to this and particularly the fact that US owners did this and it was done in the US.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35429074)

their not random. and its not just 1 source. i read a bit before speaking.

Originally Posted by Daily Mirror

Robin van Persie has expressed his frustration to Arsenal and given a clear hint that he is ready to quit.

Van Persie held crunch talks about his future with Gunners manager Arsene Wenger and chief executive Ivan Gazidis on Wednesday - and made it plain that he is fed-up with not winning trophies.

It comes as Manchester City move into pole position in the battle for his services.

The new Premier League champions are desperate to lure Van Persie north and are ready to put together a £25million deal and £250,000-a-week contract.