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Hugh 30-01-2025 14:32

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36190341)
Southern Water are going to put up our bills up by 47%!!

Glad I had a water meter put in years ago.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/33078...es-april-2025/

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36190342)
my water bill is just shy of £800

Last year (Jan-Dec) we were paying £39 per month for a total of £468 for the year, and we got a refund of £58.15 in December, and this year’s monthly payments are £34 per month (£408 for the year) - we are with Yorkshire Water.

SnoopZ 30-01-2025 14:54

Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36190342)
my water bill is just shy of £800

£800!!! Mines £343 a year currently and £81 in credit.

Compared to other regions water seems incredibly cheap is my area.

heero_yuy 30-01-2025 15:59

Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
IIRC ours for the last year was about £360.

Still 47% is quite a hike.

Stephen 30-01-2025 16:03

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Still find it weird that in England water bills are metered or based on usage. In Scotland ours are just a set price and part of the council tax payment.

SnoopZ 30-01-2025 16:20

Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36190348)
Still find it weird that in England water bills are metered or based on usage. In Scotland ours are just a set price and part of the council tax payment.

I find the way they do it in Scotland very strange.

How much is your monthly water bill including sewage if it's listed separately on your council tax bill?

Hugh 30-01-2025 16:42

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36190349)
I find the way they do it in Scotland very strange.

How much is your monthly water bill including sewage if it's listed separately on your council tax bill?

https://www.scottishwater.co.uk/Your...harges-2023-24

I’m pleased we (in Yorkshire) don’t do it this way - we’d be paying around £614 pa, rather than the current £408…

Stephen 30-01-2025 16:45

Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36190349)
I find the way they do it in Scotland very strange.

How much is your monthly water bill including sewage if it's listed separately on your council tax bill?

Don't have it to hand for last year but here is the 23/24 charges


Council Tax Band Water Supply Waste Water Combined
Band A £154.98 £179.88 £334.86
Band B £180.81 £209.86 £390.67
Band C £206.64 £239.84 £446.48
Band D £232.47 £269.82 £502.29
Band E £284.13 £329.78 £613.91
Band F £335.79 £389.74 £725.53
Band G £387.45 £449.70 £837.15
Band H £464.94 £539.64 £1,004.58

Hope it's legible

Chris 30-01-2025 20:48

Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36190349)
I find the way they do it in Scotland very strange.

How much is your monthly water bill including sewage if it's listed separately on your council tax bill?

The charging system in Scotland is more similar to England and Wales than you might think.

If you don’t have a water meter in England your bill is based on rateable value. If you don’t have a water meter in Scotland (and very few do) your bill is based on council tax bands. Council tax valuation and rateable value are just two different ways of valuing your property. Council tax bands are derived from a sale valuation while rates are (more or less) an estimate of your property’s rental value.

AFAIK the difference is because water in England and wales was privatised before council tax was introduced, so rates were the only figure available for charging based on property value. In Scotland water is not privatised and bills are collected by councils on the council tax bill, so they have to use council tax as a the basis for the water bill.

Paul 30-01-2025 20:54

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36190336)
We’ve got one , no idea where it is though

In the Kitchen ? :angel:

thenry 30-01-2025 21:34

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How long does channel 4 need to upload episodes to stream anytime :banghead: can it not be instant after its aired :(

TheDaddy 31-01-2025 22:41

Re: Moans and Pet Hates - Part 8
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36190380)
The charging system in Scotland is more similar to England and Wales than you might think.

If you don’t have a water meter in England your bill is based on rateable value. If you don’t have a water meter in Scotland (and very few do) your bill is based on council tax bands. Council tax valuation and rateable value are just two different ways of valuing your property. Council tax bands are derived from a sale valuation while rates are (more or less) an estimate of your property’s rental value.

AFAIK the difference is because water in England and wales was privatised before council tax was introduced, so rates were the only figure available for charging based on property value. In Scotland water is not privatised and bills are collected by councils on the council tax bill, so they have to use council tax as a the basis for the water bill.

Mines on the rateable value, £24 a month, if you lived in a council house in certain London Boroughs your water was included in your rent

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36190341)
Southern Water are going to put up our bills up by 47%!!

Glad I had a water meter put in years ago.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/33078...es-april-2025/

That's privatisation for you, the regulator is concerned about keeping them afloat not the customer

Dude111 10-02-2025 07:53

I was at salvation army the other day and 2 ppl were mean to me....

I am very kind and loving and I just said "Hi Buddy" and both of them said "I dont know who you are .. Leave me alone"

I cant stand how mean and nasty people are now.. They are so mad at the world they take it out on everyone :(

Stephen 10-02-2025 09:18

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That's neither mean nor nasty. They just don't want to speak to a stranger. Which is perfectly fine.

Hugh 10-02-2025 09:42

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36191004)
I was at salvation army the other day and 2 ppl were mean to me....

I am very kind and loving and I just said "Hi Buddy" and both of them said "I dont know who you are .. Leave me alone"

I cant stand how mean and nasty people are now.. They are so mad at the world they take it out on everyone :(

It’s important to respect others’ personal space - not everyone likes to be approached/talked to by strangers

Mr K 10-02-2025 11:37

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36191014)
It’s important to respect others’ personal space - not everyone likes to be approached/talked to by strangers

Oh Dudes not been at it again? He was on his last warning. There's lots of nutters and guns in the US, that would stop me going near any of them.


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