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Mr K 29-06-2020 12:56

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Paul 29-06-2020 15:35

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041608)
Not rocket science on how he could be restrained without killing him!

Not is it rocket science to behave in a way that doesnt need anyone to restrain you in the first place. :dozey:

1andrew1 29-06-2020 17:16

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36041627)
Not is it rocket science to behave in a way that doesnt need anyone to restrain you in the first place. :dozey:

That's not the point of contention.

OLD BOY 29-06-2020 17:24

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041651)
That's not the point of contention.

Correct. The police are supposed to be professional officers and abide by a code of conduct. I have seen enough reports about police conduct in the US to realise that they are biased against minorities and do not care one bit about their rights as human beings.

downquark1 29-06-2020 19:28

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Kier Starmer starts to back ferret out of BLM https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCBreakf...56165040148485

Damien 29-06-2020 19:30

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36041665)
Kier Starmer starts to back ferret out of BLM https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCBreakf...56165040148485

He was always on the outskirts of it. He obviously isn't going to support Defunding the Police.

downquark1 29-06-2020 19:49

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36041666)
He was always on the outskirts of it. He obviously isn't going to support Defunding the Police.

Well they've already destroyed cultural elements and got his enemies sacked from various positions, he can now appear to be the voice of reason.

Damien 29-06-2020 20:02

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36041667)
Well they've already destroyed cultural elements and got his enemies sacked from various positions, he can now appear to be the voice of reason.

Starmer was he didn't approve of the way the statue came down, whilst saying it should have been moved to a museum. I am not sure which of his enemies got fired?

downquark1 29-06-2020 20:56

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36041668)
Starmer was he didn't approve of the way the statue came down, whilst saying it should have been moved to a museum. I am not sure which of his enemies got fired?

Well Nigel Farage is no longer on the radio, but do you think on average a person sacked over BLM is more or less likely to be a labour voter.

Hugh 29-06-2020 21:03

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36041667)
Well they've already destroyed cultural elements and got his enemies sacked from various positions, he can now appear to be the voice of reason.

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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36041684)
Well Nigel Farage is no longer on the radio, but do you think on average a person sacked over BLM is more or less likely to be a labour voter.

Are you saying Starmer got NF sacked from LBC?

downquark1 29-06-2020 21:04

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36041702)
Are you saying Starmer got NF sacked from LBC?

No I'm saying the effect of BLM has strengthened his position.

1andrew1 30-06-2020 00:10

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36041703)
No I'm saying the effect of BLM has strengthened his position.

Farage's beliefs would always come out of the woodwork eventually with only one outcome; BLM or no BLM. Back in Novmber 2019.
Quote:

Nigel Farage accused of perpetuating conspiracy theories linked to antisemitism
Brexit Party leader revealed to have claimed Goldman Sachs saw the EU as the 'forerunner of global government' and a 'new world order'
Nigel Farage has been revealed to have endorsed "New World Order" conspiracy theories linked to antisemitism.
In an interview with Revelation TV, an evangelical Christian channel, the Brexit Party laid claimed firms such as Goldman Sachs "see the European Union as basically the forerunner of global government".
He added: "It’s pretty clear who the enemy is as far as I’m concerned – the enemy are these giant multinational businesses are prepared to basically take down our democratic systems...
"If you really look at it: what percentage of the UK actually believe in the United States of Europe, actually believe in this New World Order?"
...Antisemitism watchdog the Community Security Trust said Mr Farage's language were "familiar code words for antisemitic conspiracy theories".
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/n...itism-1.493482

downquark1 30-06-2020 00:49

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
That report is from months ago and was not the reason he was sacked.

Paul 30-06-2020 05:16

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041651)
That's not the point of contention.

If you dont put yourself in the position of needing to be restrained, there is no issue (or 'point of contention'). :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36041653)
I have seen enough reports about police conduct in the US to realise that they are biased against minorities and do not care one bit about their rights as human beings.

What complete bollocks. There are good police and bad police, just like in the UK. The good out number the bad.
Thats like saying all english football fans are hooligans because you have seem reports of trouble, they are not, you only hear about the bad. :dozey:

OLD BOY 30-06-2020 09:18

Re: Black Lives Matter
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36041731)
What complete bollocks. There are good police and bad police, just like in the UK. The good out number the bad.
Thats like saying all english football fans are hooligans because you have seem reports of trouble, they are not, you only hear about the bad. :dozey:

I think you misunderstand. I am referring to 'the police' as an organisation. I agree there are good and bad individuals within it, but the US police forces are remarkably undisciplined and do not adequately enforce any rigid code of behaviour on how to deal with the public. If they have any equal opportunities training, it is completely ineffective. Bad apples can just transfer to other areas with impunity.

Considering the police forces in the US are armed, the way they are managed is alarming.


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