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Dave42 02-10-2019 21:30

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36012563)
Just not the result of a democratic vote, the largest democratic exercise over a single issue ever undertaken.

Hmmmmm..........

what a lie when have I ever said I didn't so you can stop telling lies right now

pip08456 02-10-2019 21:45

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36012537)
so am I and except the law that the democratically elected sovereign parliament made

If you do not accept it then you reject it.

jfman 02-10-2019 21:46

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012600)
No-one said that though.

Regardless. It's a statement of clear unambiguous fact.

1andrew1 02-10-2019 21:49

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012600)
No-one said that though.

100%-48%=52%.

Dave42 02-10-2019 21:49

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012600)
No-one said that though.

if you listen to like of LBC you hear some people saying that all leavers voted for a no deal not high percentage but some

pip08456 02-10-2019 21:50

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012606)
Regardless. It's a statement of clear unambiguous fact.

It's equally impossible to say they don't, so no unambiguous fact at all.

jfman 02-10-2019 21:53

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012609)
It's equally impossible to say they don't, so no unambiguous fact at all.

It's possible to say anything and be absolutely wrong, as you demonstrate in this very post.

pip08456 02-10-2019 22:00

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012610)
It's possible to say anything and be absolutely wrong, as you demonstrate in this very post.

Damn, I must be an uneducated leaver of low IQ.

Hugh 02-10-2019 22:21

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012611)
Damn, I must be an uneducated leaver of low IQ.

Just because some people do not have formal educational qualifications does not necessarily equate to them having a low IQ.

1andrew1 02-10-2019 22:27

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012611)
Damn, I must be an uneducated leaver of low IQ.

I don't think we can tell from your post which way you voted in the referendum or your level of education.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36012613)
Just because some people do not have formal educational qualifications does not necessarily equate to them having a low IQ.

Totally agree, often education is linked to class.

ianch99 02-10-2019 22:28

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36012576)
@Hugh: I've never twisted anything. My view is well balanced.
Whereas your's is entirely a remainer's take with a bent to discredit leavers.

Hate to break this to you but Hugh is right and you are not. He is a Conservative but he often goes the extra mile to rise above the petty party politics.

Anyone who supports the views of John Redwood has so much work ahead of them to proclaim themselves as well balanced.

Chris 02-10-2019 22:28

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
topic please

ianch99 02-10-2019 22:38

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36012577)
I would think that by now, most people are aware that Boris has (had) no intention of asking for an extension.
Just because he's been 'ordered' to doesn't mean he wants to, and has probably not changed his stance about an extension.
Asking for an extension will gain him nothing - exactly the same as Corbyn if he accepted the election he kept shouting for.

Anyone who actually thinks Boris wants an extension is either incredibly stupid or a troll

I don't believe anyone here to be incredibly stupid ;)

Wow, the truth at last. I salute you ..

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012599)
It's impossible to say all 52% want no deal. Absolutely impossible.

Correct. There is/never has been a mandate for No Deal. Those that claim this are either misled or disingenuous.

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Just to recap on Mr Johnson and his aims: you either accept that he wants a Deal and is negotiating in good faith or you believe, as Mr Cummings as alluded, this exercise is a sham and is designed to show the electorate that he "tried" and the EU is at fault for No Deal.

Now, if you honestly believe the former then it can only be on faith and not evidence. If you believe the latter, they I commend your perception and honesty.

Pierre 03-10-2019 07:09

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012599)
It's impossible to say all 52% want no deal. Absolutely impossible.

It’s also impossible to say “the country” doesn’t want no deal.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36012602)
what a lie when have I ever said I didn't so you can stop telling lies right now

Sorry, you’ve always given the impression of an ardent remainer. Apologies if I have mis-read that. You agree with me then that Brexit must be delivered?

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36012608)
if you listen to like of LBC you hear some people saying that all leavers voted for a no deal not high percentage but some

Well if they say it, it must be true...........

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Looks like Boris’s new plan has been slapped down.

Time to buy in the popcorn. ( in bulk in case we leave with no deal)

Maggy 03-10-2019 08:37

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49914326

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49909866

So let's debate the proposal.Please.


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