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alwaysabear 13-03-2015 15:31

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764347)
Not been released however I've seen it on DS forums and noticed on the Sky website that they'll increase in June.

Both Sky and VM are getting way too expensive in my opinion.

Agreed ! Thanks for posting the info , I will keep me eyes open.

johnathome 13-03-2015 17:36

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I don't believe the prices quoted on DS though.
No way in a month of Sundays will Sports go up by £5.50! Sky aren't that stupid.

denphone 13-03-2015 17:41

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Sky might not be stupid but they are certainly greedy.

Sirius 13-03-2015 18:04

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35764519)
I don't believe the prices quoted on DS though.
No way in a month of Sundays will Sports go up by £5.50! Sky aren't that stupid.

Thank god there are alternatives :)

But how do you think they are going to recuperate the high price they paid for Football rights

passingbat 13-03-2015 18:12

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35764463)
Yup, Netflix is good value, I don't recall saying it wasn't.:rolleyes:.

Yeah, I guess Amazon pay more for the rights to those shows, so charge why not charge £6.99/£7.99/£8.99 a month instead? They don't need to charge me £20 to watch a season of Braquo, I will go buy the bluray/dvd and get the extras thanks. They don't need to offer an ad funded cheaper service either, they just need to offer their service at a fair and reasonable price. It drives me mad. They are blatantly ripping off customers and are no better than Sky Sports or Sky Movies in that respect.:mad::td:.

I suspect, but don't know for sure, that the prices for the digital purchase/rent titles are not set by Amazon; they are set by the studio that produces them or the company that has the distribution rights. The digital purchase/rent titles are often available on multiple services at the same price.

muppetman11 13-03-2015 18:29

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35764528)
I suspect, but don't know for sure, that the prices for the digital purchase/rent titles are not set by Amazon; they are set by the studio that produces them or the company that has the distribution rights. The digital purchase/rent titles are often available on multiple services at the same price.

Its crazy that the digital downloads cost more than buying the optical media though isn't it.

andy_m 13-03-2015 18:45

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764459)
I was referring to the Sky branded channels as that's what OB was mentioning.

I guess we all have different viewing tastes , the BBC has very little we watch in our house , probably the most watched was the kids with Cbeebies years back.:D

Quite. I'm genuinely amazed that anyone does. With Top Gear looking in danger I can't think of much else worth watching. I often think that advert saying that 95% of the most watched programmes are on freeview has as much to do with availability as quality. If you ignore the World Cup and the admittedly excellent Sherlock, last year's most watched shows were reality shows like I'm a Celebrity, Strictly and Bake Off. They might be entertaining but they're hardly the hallmark of quality television.

harry_hitch 13-03-2015 19:00

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35764528)
I suspect, but don't know for sure, that the prices for the digital purchase/rent titles are not set by Amazon; they are set by the studio that produces them or the company that has the distribution rights. The digital purchase/rent titles are often available on multiple services at the same price.

If that is the case PB, I guess I better apologize to Amazon.:).

passingbat 13-03-2015 19:03

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764537)
Its crazy that the digital downloads cost more than buying the optical media though isn't it.

Absolutely, especially as you don't get the extras with the download. It's the same with CD sets with enclosed booklets (though I have seen the odd instance of booklets offered as a pdf.)

Personally, I buy second hand optical media of both DVDs and CDs, at a fraction of the cost, and then rip them.

Mad Max 13-03-2015 20:34

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I've just received a 30 day free trial offer for Amazon Prime, not sure if my Blu-ray player has this app, but what's your thought's guys? should I give it a go?

passingbat 13-03-2015 21:40

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35764566)
I've just received a 30 day free trial offer for Amazon Prime, not sure if my Blu-ray player has this app, but what's your thought's guys? should I give it a go?

The 30 day trial is standard for everyone.

Don't forget to deselect auto renew (or similar setting) on Amazon if you don't want to continue after the free trial, or you will be charged £79.

Mad Max 13-03-2015 23:34

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ok thx.

Chad 14-03-2015 00:40

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35764566)
I've just received a 30 day free trial offer for Amazon Prime, not sure if my Blu-ray player has this app, but what's your thought's guys? should I give it a go?

Definitely! You've got SKY Atlantic shows on there such as Blue Bloods, Ray Donovan, The Following and The Borgia. Black Sails and Turn are worth a try plus Vikings is a real must.

andrewbrown 14-03-2015 10:18

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I thought this thread was about sports channel news. Seems to have wandered a bit OT.

1andrew1 15-03-2015 10:45

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Interesting proposal here for an SPFL Network http://www.thefootballlife.co.uk/

BT extends Premiership Rugby deal until 2021 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rug...ish-clubs.html

braysoj1 16-03-2015 20:27

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Y has Virgin put the number thing what appears on Sky sports channel on the left instead of the right well annoying

muppetman11 17-03-2015 11:16

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BBC Two has acquired the rights from BT Sport to show the new series of The Clare Balding Show in an innovative new deal, which will see the show screened on both channels.

Link

denphone 17-03-2015 14:27

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Well it won't make any difference to me what channels it is on as l don't watch such over-rated rubbish.

andy_m 17-03-2015 15:31

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35765302)
BBC Two has acquired the rights from BT Sport to show the new series of The Clare Balding Show in an innovative new deal, which will see the show screened on both channels.

Link

Innovative? Nobody was watching it so we've given it to an organisation that wants it to give the impression it's still interested in sport. Laughable.

Anypermitedroute 17-03-2015 18:26

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Ok I admit it, I watch the Claire balding show and not ashamed to say I like it. There you go, What's wrong with BBC showing for the reasons they expressed? They get a show that probably cost BT more to make then they are buying rights so it's another filler in their schedule at value to tax payer rather than making their own similar one. Some would say Claire balding is one of their own so makes transition to be shown on BBC more palatable

1andrew1 17-03-2015 18:34

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It will probably be better a day after on the BBC too as it will be edited to half an hour and will be advert free.

heero_yuy 17-03-2015 18:53

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35765422)
Ok I admit it, I watch the Claire balding show and not ashamed to say I like it. There you go, What's wrong with BBC showing for the reasons they expressed? They get a show that probably cost BT more to make then they are buying rights so it's another filler in their schedule at value to tax payer rather than making their own similar one. Some would say Claire balding is one of their own so makes transition to be shown on BBC more palatable

Please try to stay calm. Medics and restraint specialists are on their way.:D

andy_m 17-03-2015 19:10

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35765422)
Ok I admit it, I watch the Claire balding show and not ashamed to say I like it. There you go, What's wrong with BBC showing for the reasons they expressed? They get a show that probably cost BT more to make then they are buying rights so it's another filler in their schedule at value to tax payer rather than making their own similar one. Some would say Claire balding is one of their own so makes transition to be shown on BBC more palatable

There's nothing wrong with it, but let's not dress it up either. It's not innovative, it's desperate.

It's also worth considering the fact that licence fee payers don't do so in order to see their money prop up the offerings of private companies, just as BT Sport subscribers don't expect to see the content they pay a premium to watch end up fta the following day.

1andrew1 17-03-2015 19:50

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765446)
There's nothing wrong with it, but let's not dress it up either. It's not innovative, it's desperate.

It's also worth considering the fact that licence fee payers don't do so in order to see their money prop up the offerings of private companies, just as BT Sport subscribers don't expect to see the content they pay a premium to watch end up fta the following day.

It's an exaggeration that it's innovative as content often airs on pay-TV first before being shown on FTA TV. I wouldn't call it desperate though; I would call it opportunistic.
Equally, it's an exaggeration that the BBC will be propping up the offerings of a private company by paying for half an hour a week of previously-shown programming.The BBC does prop up private companies by commissioning original programming from them and by acting as a training ground for the industry.

passingbat 17-03-2015 20:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35765460)
It's an exaggeration that it's innovative as content often airs on pay-TV first before being shown on FTA TV. I wouldn't call it desperate though; I would call it opportunistic.
Equally, it's an exaggeration that the BBC will be propping up the offerings of a private company by paying for half an hour a week of previously-shown programming.The BBC does prop up private companies by commissioning original programming from them and by acting as a training ground for the industry.

It's just 'I hate the BBC' andy_m trying to find something that he thinks will reflect badly on the BBC. It doesn't of course; the BBC buys in loads of content made by other companies.

johnathome 17-03-2015 22:48

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35765362)
Well it won't make any difference to me what channels it is on as l don't watch such over-rated rubbish.

I wasn't aware it had ever been rated? :D

andy_m 17-03-2015 22:55

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35765465)
It's just 'I hate the BBC' andy_m trying to find something that he thinks will reflect badly on the BBC. It doesn't of course; the BBC buys in loads of content made by other companies.

Actually I think it's more desperate from BT than the BBC, but I am disappointed that this will be used to reflect the BBC's "commitment to sport" which, in my opinion, is actually just something they pay lip service to.

And I don't "hate" the BBC. But, and we're going over old ground here, I don't watch it and I don't like the institutional bias in its news output, so I'd like the option of not having to pay for it.

Mad Max 17-03-2015 23:49

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765500)
Actually I think it's more desperate from BT than the BBC, but I am disappointed that this will be used to reflect the BBC's "commitment to sport" which, in my opinion, is actually just something they pay lip service to.

And I don't "hate" the BBC. But, and we're going over old ground here, I don't watch it and I don't like the institutional bias in its news output, so I'd like the option of not having to pay for it.


So how do you know it has institutional bias in its news output if you don't watch it Andy?...:D

harry_hitch 18-03-2015 01:03

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765500)
Actually I think it's more desperate from BT than the BBC, but I am disappointed that this will be used to reflect the BBC's "commitment to sport" which, in my opinion, is actually just something they pay lip service to.

And I don't "hate" the BBC. But, and we're going over old ground here, I don't watch it and I don't like the institutional bias in its news output, so I'd like the option of not having to pay for it.

Seriously, you have never watched at least one series of anything in the past? No Generation game? no Big Break? no Top Gear? No Steptoe and Son, no Dad's Army, no Last of The Summer Wine? no Apprentice? no League of Gentlemen? no Alan Partridge? no Question of Sport, no Only Connect, no Mastermind? no FA cup when Palace have played? no Match of the day!?!

How could you have not watched any of the 2012 Olympics? The feel good mood of the country was awesome, thanks mainly to the BBC showing the Olympics FTA.


When was the last full year you went without watching or listening to something on the BBC or which was comissioned by the BBC? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014?

I don't watch VIVA, music channels, shopping channels etc. Can I petition VM not to pay for those? No, I have to accept that I have to help spread the cost for the others who do.

Oh, I don't smoke either. I would like the option not to pay for the medical costs attributed to those who do smoke. Where do I go to whinge about my tax concerns in this case? That's right, I can't. I do like a drink now and again, so can my money be put into research for drink related problems? No, that's right, it can't.

The BBC is and always will be a tax, it is as simple as that.

andy_m 18-03-2015 06:19

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35765519)
So how do you know it has institutional bias in its news output if you don't watch it Andy?...:D

They've admitted it.

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35765525)
Seriously, you have never watched at least one series of anything in the past? No Generation game? no Big Break? no Top Gear? No Steptoe and Son, no Dad's Army, no Last of The Summer Wine? no Apprentice? no League of Gentlemen? no Alan Partridge? no Question of Sport, no Only Connect, no Mastermind? no FA cup when Palace have played? no Match of the day!?!

How could you have not watched any of the 2012 Olympics? The feel good mood of the country was awesome, thanks mainly to the BBC showing the Olympics FTA.


When was the last full year you went without watching or listening to something on the BBC or which was comissioned by the BBC? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014?

I don't watch VIVA, music channels, shopping channels etc. Can I petition VM not to pay for those? No, I have to accept that I have to help spread the cost for the others who do.

Oh, I don't smoke either. I would like the option not to pay for the medical costs attributed to those who do smoke. Where do I go to whinge about my tax concerns in this case? That's right, I can't. I do like a drink now and again, so can my money be put into research for drink related problems? No, that's right, it can't.

The BBC is and always will be a tax, it is as simple as that.

Yes, I watched the Olympics. But I have multi-channel television with both Of the major sport networks - I would have been able to watch the Olympics regardless of where they were shown. I can honestly say that whilst I've been responsible for paying the licence fee I haven't watched any of the shows you've listed.

You can petition all you like, but you have a choice to subscribe to them or not, so it's not quite the same thing.

I'm not really prepared to respond to an argument that equates serious medical complaints with telly.

The licence fee isn't a tax, but I don't like it - does the fact that you've listed some other things that are wrong mean I have to be quiet about it?

As far as the subject goes then I see this deal as an indication that BT aren't doing quite as well from a viewership and a revenue point of view as they would like and the innovation in this deal is the fact that now more people can watch it and they can earn some money from it.

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In 2006 senior figures admitted a "cultural liberal bias"

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/yes-w...s-7088133.html

In 2010 the DG admitted a "massive bias to the left"

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/bbc-c...s-6509105.html

In 2013 an internal report into impartiality found a "deep liberal bias"

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...as-immigration

This last report cost £175,000 of our money. The BBC, who commissioned the report and spent our money on it, dismissed it as merely having some "interesting insights".

Just in case anybody wants d me to provide sources for.my earlier post.

harry_hitch 18-03-2015 12:34

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765533)
They've admitted it.

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Yes, I watched the Olympics. But I have multi-channel television with both Of the major sport networks - I would have been able to watch the Olympics regardless of where they were shown. I can honestly say that whilst I've been responsible for paying the licence fee I haven't watched any of the shows you've listed.

You can petition all you like, but you have a choice to subscribe to them or not, so it's not quite the same thing.

I'm not really prepared to respond to an argument that equates serious medical complaints with telly.

The licence fee isn't a tax, but I don't like it - does the fact that you've listed some other things that are wrong mean I have to be quiet about it?

As far as the subject goes then I see this deal as an indication that BT aren't doing quite as well from a viewership and a revenue point of view as they would like and the innovation in this deal is the fact that now more people can watch it and they can earn some money from it.

---------- Post added at 06:19 ---------- Previous post was at 06:10 ----------

In 2006 senior figures admitted a "cultural liberal bias"

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/yes-w...s-7088133.html

In 2010 the DG admitted a "massive bias to the left"

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/bbc-c...s-6509105.html

In 2013 an internal report into impartiality found a "deep liberal bias"

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...as-immigration

This last report cost £175,000 of our money. The BBC, who commissioned the report and spent our money on it, dismissed it as merely having some "interesting insights".

Just in case anybody wants d me to provide sources for.my earlier post.

My points were rhetorical, perhaps I should have mentioned that. They were not meant to cause debate.

Since you have mentioned it though, I can drop my package, but I lose my HD channels. The principle of the argument is the same. I have to pay for channels I don't watch watch. It's not a problem for me though, as I know many other people enjoy them.
Again, the smoking point was rhetorical, I know a number of smokers and I want them to stay as healthy as they can, for as long as they can. In theory though, I could use the argument that I am paying for a nhs service I have never used or intend to use - why should I pay for that service?

Nope, you can be as vocal as you want. I hope this does not mean I am not to allowed to challenge people on their views though?

Again, not looking to cause a debate on this, will welcome any further comments from your goodself though.

1andrew1 18-03-2015 12:54

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765533)
As far as the subject goes then I see this deal as an indication that BT aren't doing quite as well from a viewership and a revenue point of view as they would like and the innovation in this deal is the fact that now more people can watch it and they can earn some money from it.

I think one great advantage it gives the programme is that a rapidly-increased audience size should make it attractive to sporting personalities to appear on. As a new show, it started off with bundles of goodwill but to guarantee high calibre guests, it needed to up its ratings significantly. I think the money involved will be pretty insignificant compared to the benefits of increased viewership.

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765533)
This last report cost £175,000 of our money. The BBC, who commissioned the report and spent our money on it, dismissed it as merely having some "interesting insights".

In fairness, that was commissioned by the BBC's regulator, the BBC Trust and not the BBC itself. In the future, Andrew Marr has suggested that regulation could be taken over by Ofcom. And the BBC itself did not dismiss it either. The article you linked to quotes a BBC spokesman as saying ""We agree it is always vital to guard against unconscious bias or 'group think' and will continue to do so and we've committed to a number of actions to improve our coverage even further." Committing to a number of actions is obviously not dismissing the report; I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion.

andy_m 18-03-2015 15:00

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Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35765619)
My points were rhetorical, perhaps I should have mentioned that. They were not meant to cause debate.

Since you have mentioned it though, I can drop my package, but I lose my HD channels. The principle of the argument is the same. I have to pay for channels I don't watch watch. It's not a problem for me though, as I know many other people enjoy them.
Again, the smoking point was rhetorical, I know a number of smokers and I want them to stay as healthy as they can, for as long as they can. In theory though, I could use the argument that I am paying for a nhs service I have never used or intend to use - why should I pay for that service?

Nope, you can be as vocal as you want. I hope this does not mean I am not to allowed to challenge people on their views though?

Again, not looking to cause a debate on this, will welcome any further comments from your goodself though.

You can drop your package and lose your hd channels, but there is nothing to stop you then getting hd channels elsewhere.

If you want to consume tv or radio from ANY source you must pay the licence fee regardless of whether or not you consume any of the products it pays for.

I'm fine not debating, but I simply do not see them as the same thing.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35765622)
I think one great advantage it gives the programme is that a rapidly-increased audience size should make it attractive to sporting personalities to appear on. As a new show, it started off with bundles of goodwill but to guarantee high calibre guests, it needed to up its ratings significantly. I think the money involved will be pretty insignificant compared to the benefits of increased viewership.

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In fairness, that was commissioned by the BBC's regulator, the BBC Trust and not the BBC itself. In the future, Andrew Marr has suggested that regulation could be taken over by Ofcom. And the BBC itself did not dismiss it either. The article you linked to quotes a BBC spokesman as saying ""We agree it is always vital to guard against unconscious bias or 'group think' and will continue to do so and we've committed to a number of actions to improve our coverage even further." Committing to a number of actions is obviously not dismissing the report; I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion.

Mainly because they haven't set out what they are!

Re. your first point, insignificant or not, I am uncomfortable with an on going subscription channel being allowed a weekly half hour long advert on the national broadcaster and being paid public money for the privilege. Using the licence fee to pay for a full length repeat of a show broadcast the night before on a subscription channel is not the same as the BBC buying in content from private content producing companies.

1andrew1 18-03-2015 15:40

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765649)
Mainly because they haven't set out what they are!

Not in that quote as it's only a newspaper article but they will have done. Hopefully, on my other point, you agree that the £175k report on the BBC was done by its regulator and not the Corporation itself.

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765649)
Re. your first point, insignificant or not, I am uncomfortable with an on going subscription channel being allowed a weekly half hour long advert on the national broadcaster and being paid public money for the privilege.

I think we would all agree with that statement but that's not what is happening here. It's content and it's not an advert. The fact that it was broadcast earlier on BT Sport obviously doesn't harm BT Sport unless the programme is poor but I doubt it will be seen as a BT Sport advert. Let's see what the finished product looks like, I'm sure the BBC and BT will both be wary of the scrutiny this programme will get from BT's competitors.

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765649)
Using the licence fee to pay for a full length repeat of a show broadcast the night before on a subscription channel is not the same as the BBC buying in content from private content producing companies.

As highlighted previously, it's not a full-length repeat but an edited version, condensed down from 45 minutes. This should ensure any BT Sport references can be edited out.
Finding a pure-play TV production company is quite hard with the likes of channel owners ITV, Sky and Fox busily acquiring the remaining companies.
There is a similar but not identical precedent for the BBC's acquisition of this content. It will show the next series of Ripper Street which premiered on Amazon. I'm sure there are many others. I appreciate that a show from BT wil gather more attention given the rivalry between it and Sky for sports rights.

andy_m 18-03-2015 18:27

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If I'm honest I think you're splitting hairs a bit , at least in terms of this debate, in differentiating between the BBC and the BBC trust, although yes I recognise that they are separate bodies - however a quick check of the trustees register of interest shows that one trustee is married to a member of the BBC's news team, etc.

Either way, yes, fair enough, the report was done by the regulator, not the corporation.

Or in other words there have been admissions of bias by employees of the corporation, its executive AND its regulator. So, thanks for making that point for me, I guess.

As for the rest, like you say, we'll have to see when the programme airs.

passingbat 18-03-2015 18:53

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765732)
a quick check of the trustees register of interest shows that one trustee is married to a member of the BBC's news team, etc.

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Stop the press!!!.... another scandal hits the BBC. Shocking, quite simply, shocking! ;)

1andrew1 18-03-2015 22:44

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35765732)
If I'm honest I think you're splitting hairs a bit , at least in terms of this debate, in differentiating between the BBC and the BBC trust, although yes I recognise that they are separate bodies - however a quick check of the trustees register of interest shows that one trustee is married to a member of the BBC's news team, etc.

Either way, yes, fair enough, the report was done by the regulator, not the corporation.

Or in other words there have been admissions of bias by employees of the corporation, its executive AND its regulator. So, thanks for making that point for me, I guess.

As for the rest, like you say, we'll have to see when the programme airs.

It's confusing that the regulator (BBC Trust) has BBC in its title but it and the BBC are two separate bodies and the distinction is important for this discussion. It wasn't the BBC's decision to commission the £175k report on bias so it can't be criticised for it in the same way that Sky or BT can't be criticised for a £175k Ofcom report on their activities.
I'm not sure what your point is regarding the marriage between a trustee and a member of the BBC's news team is. It doesn't make them the same entity.
Your point about bias is a powerful one and is impossible to disagree with as the BBC itself acknowledged it. I feel that your side comments unintentionally weaken your point though.
But I think it's correct that licence fee payers like you scrutinise the BBC and keep it on its toes. I share some of your concerns but I take a more optimistic view of things until I'm proven wrong. I look forward to watching the programme with keen interest now. :)

Anypermitedroute 23-03-2015 06:06

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Could the move to show Claire balding show a possible indicator that a cosy relationship is being built between BT and BBC and champions league football which BT promise to show one game for each English team could be shown on BBC?

denphone 23-03-2015 07:42

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l doubt it.

telegramsam 23-03-2015 18:56

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35766677)
Could the move to show Claire balding show a possible indicator that a cosy relationship is being built between BT and BBC and champions league football which BT promise to show one game for each English team could be shown on BBC?

Some how I doubt it as I don`t think the BBC can afford it. My feeling is BT will do a deal with ITV? or create a unscrambled channel on freeview?

1andrew1 23-03-2015 19:26

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BT TV is restructuring and has big plans for a summer relaunch.
Alex Green, ex-VM and the head of BT TV will leave. Sources told the Telegraph that Richard Young, the head of business development, Kate Dean, the director of content and James Lord, the head of commercial for BT Sport have already left.
There will be a big push in the summer with the launch of a 4K BT TV box and new bundles with mobile services. Champions League coverage will be charged for and pubs heavily marketed to.
Managing Director of BT TV Delia Bushell said: “This summer will be almost as big for us as the launch of BT Sport two years ago. It’s a big moment.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ague-push.html

denphone 23-03-2015 19:41

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If BT think that many will pay extra for their Champions League coverage then they are very deluded in their thinking.

Mad Max 23-03-2015 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35766871)
If BT think that many will pay extra for their Champions League coverage then they are very deluded in their thinking.


Correct......:mad:

alwaysabear 23-03-2015 19:49

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35766871)
If BT think that many will pay extra for their Champions League coverage then they are very deluded in their thinking.

No chance of me paying for it. BT could come a cropper if they have misread the appetite of the consumer to pay for Champions league.

muppetman11 23-03-2015 19:49

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35766859)
BT TV is restructuring and has big plans for a summer relaunch.
Alex Green, ex-VM and the head of BT TV will leave. Sources told the Telegraph that Richard Young, the head of business development, Kate Dean, the director of content and James Lord, the head of commercial for BT Sport have already left.
There will be a big push in the summer with the launch of a 4K BT TV box and new bundles with mobile services. Champions League coverage will be charged for and pubs heavily marketed to.
Managing Director of BT TV Delia Bushell said: “This summer will be almost as big for us as the launch of BT Sport two years ago. It’s a big moment.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ague-push.html

Let's be honest here it needs sorting out their TV offering is far to confusing and has some glaring ommisions in comparison with its main competitors.

telegramsam 23-03-2015 19:56

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35766871)
If BT think that many will pay extra for their Champions League coverage then they are very deluded in their thinking.

Agree entirely. I for one wont be paying extra to watch Champions League football. BT seem to of put it on a very high pedestal but they`re in for a mighty shock if they do go ahead and charge extra for Champions League games.

Superblade7 24-03-2015 05:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35766871)
If BT think that many will pay extra for their Champions League coverage then they are very deluded in their thinking.

I agree. I hardly watched it on Sky / ITV so certainly have no interest in a separate subscription channel. I reckon BT have seriously overestimated it's value as a standalone product.

telegramsam 24-03-2015 14:48

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I must confess I do watch some champions league matches but wouldn`t pay extra to do so. I was asked this in a survey I did some time ago (it didn`t say who the survey was on behalf of but I think we can now guess it was BT),anyway I stressed that I wouldn`t pay for champions league football.

Anypermitedroute 24-03-2015 17:18

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Same here, I pay for sky sports, have BT on XL but there is no way I would pay purely for champions league football

1andrew1 24-03-2015 17:26

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It will be interesting to see how everything is priced up in the summer. From BT Retail's perspective, it will have three new offerings:
- Mobile phones
- 4K BT TV box and some 4K BT Sport channels
- Champions League channel

It wil be interesting to see what VM does about Champions League because only it and BT will be retailing it to customers, assuming they can strike a deal.

johnathome 24-03-2015 19:39

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35767019)

It wil be interesting to see what VM does about Champions League because only it and BT will be retailing it to customers, assuming they can strike a deal.

Can you remember how much the current wholesale deal was? About £70m a year from what i remember?

Arthurgray50@blu 24-03-2015 19:59

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I can assure you that l wont be paying for Champions League on BT, we pay enough as it is for football on TV.

BT are trying to beat Sky, but they wont.

In fact did anyone notice that on my Tivo box at the weekend there was no screens on the red button for the football on SS1

At the end of the day, the viewer can decide what to pay for. And then maybe we wont get ripped off.

This season, l have watched Spurs 90% on Tv As it is too expensive to go live

muppetman11 24-03-2015 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35767019)
It will be interesting to see how everything is priced up in the summer. From BT Retail's perspective, it will have three new offerings:
- Mobile phones
- 4K BT TV box and some 4K BT Sport channels
- Champions League channel

It wil be interesting to see what VM does about Champions League because only it and BT will be retailing it to customers, assuming they can strike a deal.

Just as Telefonica agrees the sale of O2 to Hutchison Whampoa.

Link

1andrew1 25-03-2015 08:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35767047)
Can you remember how much the current wholesale deal was? About £70m a year from what i remember?

Yes, think that's it. The figure I had in my head was £3.50pm per XL customer of which there are about 1.8m making £75.6m.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35767051)
In fact did anyone notice that on my Tivo box at the weekend there was no screens on the red button for the football on SS1?

We tried to look but your curtains were closed. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35767062)
Just as Telefonica agrees the sale of O2 to Hutchison Whampoa.

Yes, will apparently take a year for approval. Then it's farewell O2 Arena, hello 3 Arena. Its case will probably be helped by the launch of BT's own mobile service which should increase the market share of a combined EE + BT. Again, that deal has yet to be cleared so BT will launch its mobile service using a wholesale agreement with EE.

muppetman11 25-03-2015 11:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35767122)
Yes, think that's it. The figure I had in my head was £3.50pm per XL customer of which there are about 1.8m making £75.6m.

We tried to look but your curtains were closed. :)

Yes, will apparently take a year for approval. Then it's farewell O2 Arena, hello 3 Arena. Its case will probably be helped by the launch of BT's own mobile service which should increase the market share of a combined EE + BT. Again, that deal has yet to be cleared so BT will launch its mobile service using a wholesale agreement with EE.

To be fair BT Mobiles sim only deals look OK with 4G included.

Link

Bircho 25-03-2015 16:04

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35767051)

In fact did anyone notice that on my Tivo box at the weekend there was no screens on the red button for the football on SS1

Did you have many people in your lounge at the weekend Arthur?

---------- Post added at 16:04 ---------- Previous post was at 15:59 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35767172)
To be fair BT Mobiles sim only deals look OK with 4G included.

Link

If you have a bt broadband for the lowest offer. If you are other network then Three is still the better option at £8.

Three is better for all the other options, even if you have BT Broadband. The £12 (£17 no broadband) is £11 with Three and the £20 (£25) is actually £17 with Three plus there is a 20GB cap on the BT option whilst Three is unlimited (so long as you don't tether).

http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones

johnathome 25-03-2015 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bircho (Post 35767294)
Did you have many people in your lounge at the weekend Arthur?

---------- Post added at 16:04 ---------- Previous post was at 15:59 ----------



If you have a bt broadband for the lowest offer. If you are other network then Three is still the better option at £8.

Three is better for all the other options, even if you have BT Broadband. The £12 (£17 no broadband) is £11 with Three and the £20 (£25) is actually £17 with Three plus there is a 20GB cap on the BT option whilst Three is unlimited (so long as you don't tether).

http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones

All the Three sim only packages give you 4GB of tethering, in case you didn't know

1andrew1 25-03-2015 23:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35766878)
Let's be honest here it needs sorting out their TV offering is far to confusing and has some glaring ommisions in comparison with its main competitors.

It used to be confusing when they could not offer Sky Sports by YouView but now they can it's a lot simpler. But it still lags even TalkTalk for channel range.

denphone 08-04-2015 19:41

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Jesus why do we have to listen to BT's terrible football pundits tonight.:td::(

vincerooney 08-04-2015 19:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35770450)
Jesus why do we have to listen to BT's terrible football pundits tonight.:td::(

I know den its awful! They mustn't have had any auditions to get these jobs surely!

muppetman11 08-04-2015 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35770450)
Jesus why do we have to listen to BT's terrible football pundits tonight.:td::(

Can't wait for their champions league coverage :shocked:

telegramsam 08-04-2015 20:18

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35770450)
Jesus why do we have to listen to BT's terrible football pundits tonight.:td::(

Could you not turn the tv sound off and switch a radio commentary on? Just a thought.

denphone 08-04-2015 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35770455)
Can't wait for their champions league coverage :shocked:

Yes l will be putting the volume on mute if they continue with these idiots.

---------- Post added at 20:39 ---------- Previous post was at 20:38 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35770456)
Could you not turn the tv sound off and switch a radio commentary on? Just a thought.

Thanks for that tip TGS.

Arthurgray50@blu 08-04-2015 22:23

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Lets put it this way. BT have a feedback form, but l cannot see the point in complaining about them.

The pundits are rubbish, but they don't care

theone2k10 08-04-2015 22:55

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35770450)
Jesus why do we have to listen to BT's terrible football pundits tonight.:td::(

I didn't then again foxsports were terrible tonight too so that plan backfired on me lol.

Chad 09-04-2015 21:44

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UFC comes to Freeview this Saturday via Pick TV:

http://uk.ufc.com/where-to-watch-ufc...onzaga-cro-cop

Strange as I thought BT had the rights to UFC?

Media Boy UK 09-04-2015 22:24

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35770666)
UFC comes to Freeview this Saturday via Pick TV:

http://uk.ufc.com/where-to-watch-ufc...onzaga-cro-cop

Strange as I thought BT had the rights to UFC?

Not listed as being on ESPN or BT Sport.

http://tv.sky.com/tv-guide#/day/3

---------- Post added at 22:24 ---------- Previous post was at 22:19 ----------

UPC will also be on Pick on June 20th.

http://www1.skysports.com/ufc/news/1...s-free-on-pick

Chad 09-04-2015 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35770676)
Not listed as being on ESPN or BT Sport.

http://tv.sky.com/tv-guide#/day/3

---------- Post added at 22:24 ---------- Previous post was at 22:19 ----------

UPC will also be on Pick on June 20th.

http://www1.skysports.com/ufc/news/1...s-free-on-pick

Interesting stuff. With Pick also securing the rights to zombie drama Z Nation, the channel seems to be picking up a bit from its usual programming.

Media Boy UK 09-04-2015 22:39

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And 5o season 1 start on Pick on Monday.

theone2k10 10-04-2015 00:27

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35770666)
UFC comes to Freeview this Saturday via Pick TV:

http://uk.ufc.com/where-to-watch-ufc...onzaga-cro-cop

Strange as I thought BT had the rights to UFC?

From what i've read on other forums the rights are now on a event by event basis, whoever bids highest for that event gets it.
I'm sure BTsports have some ufc still i've not seen anything on my app though yet.

Gavin-D 22-04-2015 09:52

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Does anyone think VM will offer the sky sports season ticket again this year?

telegramsam 22-04-2015 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35773091)
Does anyone think VM will offer the sky sports season ticket again this year?

Was wondering that myself. How much did it cost last time? Doubt it will be the same price if they do offer it again.

denphone 22-04-2015 10:05

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Of course they don't have the Champions League and Europa League come the start of the new football season so is it worth it?.

Bircho 22-04-2015 10:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35773096)
Of course they don't have the Champions League and Europa League come the start of the new football season so is it worth it?.

Not had Europa League this season - was covered by ITV/BT Sport.

Khenryashley 22-04-2015 10:58

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Sky prices go up. They lose champions league coverage.
Yet
1. 1/4 million extra customers
2. sales up to 8.4 billion
3. profits up 20% to 1 billion
3. company worth 19 billion

I am confused. They must be doing something right elsewhere. Or they are doing a Tesco.

denphone 22-04-2015 11:05

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l certainly would like to see a real breakdown of their figures as one suspects most of their new customers in this country have come from Now TV and thus they have added them on to their main customer numbers to make it look better then it really is.

muppetman11 22-04-2015 13:15

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The subscription increase hadn't been implemented for those results , clearly bringing new products for additional revenue streams on both the Now TV and satellite side is paying dividends.

johnathome 22-04-2015 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35773110)
l certainly would like to see a real breakdown of their figures as one suspects most of their new customers in this country have come from Now TV and thus they have added them on to their main customer numbers to make it look better then it really is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35773151)
The subscription increase hadn't been implemented for those results , clearly bringing new products for additional revenue streams on both the Now TV and satellite side is paying dividends.

Indeed, i'd like to see the Sky subscriber numbers on their own.

I have a NowTV subscription, 3 months free, from a chromecast offer.

I bet you £50 they count me in those subscriber numbers even though i've never given them a penny.

muppetman11 22-04-2015 15:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35773191)
Indeed, i'd like to see the Sky subscriber numbers on their own.

I have a NowTV subscription, 3 months free, from a chromecast offer.

I bet you £50 they count me in those subscriber numbers even though i've never given them a penny.

Of course you'll be counted , that's no different from any other provider your considered a subscriber until you cancel and I'm sure BT will include those on its free TV proposition.

Don't VM include those subscribers on its M TV package ?

passingbat 22-04-2015 15:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35773194)
Don't VM include those subscribers on its M TV package ?

I'm sure they do, and I'm sure it was one of the reasons that I was offered it at no extra cost when I rang over a year ago to completely cancel the TV side.

Sky made a smart move with Now TV.

tassiekev 22-04-2015 15:53

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Did a survey a couple of months back for VM, specifically on Season Pass. Can't remember them all (or even that many to be truthful) but one of the options was a Season Pass for £250 for all football for 18 months. Honestly can't remember if it was Sky only (probably was). There were other options for (say) 9 months with 3 months free. I expect we'll hear something about July ready for next season.

Gavin-D 22-04-2015 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35773094)
Was wondering that myself. How much did it cost last time? Doubt it will be the same price if they do offer it again.

Was £150 I think at first then it came down during September

telegramsam 22-04-2015 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35773237)
Was £150 I think at first then it came down during September

Thanks. As I say I doubt it will be the same price

denphone 29-04-2015 10:02

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BT Sport to broadcast Scottish Premiership play-offs.

https://sport.bt.com/sport-football/...11363977946819

denphone 05-05-2015 11:54

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Channel 5 to show Football League highlights in prime-time Saturday slot.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...s-saturday-9pm

vincerooney 05-05-2015 16:23

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Anyone know if sky still have the rights to county cricket and if so how many games a year they have? Can't ever see any on. It's strange too as you'd surely think it'd be a good channel filler for them as they have so many channels!

Anypermitedroute 05-05-2015 16:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35775652)
Anyone know if sky still have the rights to county cricket and if so how many games a year they have? Can't ever see any on. It's strange too as you'd surely think it'd be a good channel filler for them as they have so many channels!

they still got teh rights, no doubt they will show T20 and the one day cup.

as regards to county 4 dayers, they dont show a great deal last tiem apart from battle of the roses but with Sangakarra and Pietersen at Surrey who knows. I think though as we have quite few tests lined up they probably will stick to short formats but lets see

denphone 07-05-2015 10:25

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BT signs up 266,000 new fibre broadband customers in last quarter.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...nues-sports-tv

OLD BOY 08-05-2015 17:14

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Good news for those who were concerned that more players paying for football rights would mean increased costs, and for those who thought that BT would not attempt to protect consumers from the high prices demanded by Sky.

I've always said that more competition was a good thing which would eventually see prices falling. This appears to be the start of the process.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/...fta-version-2/
BT Sport to launch “FTA version”


John Petter, head of BT’s consumer division, has revealed that the company plans to launch a FTA version of BT Sport.

Since its launch in August 2013 BT Sport has been free for its broadband subscribers, while other viewers pay £13.50 a month. However, the arrival of the Champions League and Europa League, which is costing the company £897 million over three years, means BT Sport will no longer be free from next season.

Speaking to the Evening Standard, Petter commented: “It will be a very reasonable price. And some games will be free as well. There’ll be a free-to-air version of BT Sport.”

He continued: “Sports that go exclusively pay-TV are not good for the long-term health of any sport because you narrow the base over time. We can bring something here through a model that doesn’t depend on such high subscription fees, that gives the sport access to a very large viewership through free-to-air. This, combined with a low pay threshold, is potentially a good model to adopt for sustainability in the long term.”

Speaking on his perceived success of BT Sport, Petter said: “What we set out to do was give sport back to the people because, relative to other markets, the take up of premium sports in the UK has been low. Around half the five million households that view BT Sport did not watch any premium sport before our entry into the market in 2013. Our proportion of viewers under 25 is noticeably higher than for either Sky Sports or Eurosport. We are now the biggest sports channel in the nation’s pubs and clubs, which were previously being choked by the high prices demanded by Sky.”

muppetman11 08-05-2015 17:17

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So a few games will be free , before the BT deal we had Champions League games on ITV and Europa League on ITV4 so sadly whatever BT offer free will be far less than we have had previous seasons.

denphone 08-05-2015 17:19

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35776650)
So a few games will be free , before the BT deal we had Champions League games on ITV and Europa League on ITV4 so sadly whatever BT offer free will be far less than we have had previous seasons.

Summed up perfectly.

tassiekev 08-05-2015 18:30

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35776650)
So a few games will be free , before the BT deal we had Champions League games on ITV and Europa League on ITV4 so sadly whatever BT offer free will be far less than we have had previous seasons.

Yes, but hopefully we won't have to listen to Andy Townsend!!

telegramsam 08-05-2015 18:50

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35776649)
Good news for those who were concerned that more players paying for football rights would mean increased costs, and for those who thought that BT would not attempt to protect consumers from the high prices demanded by Sky.

I've always said that more competition was a good thing which would eventually see prices falling. This appears to be the start of the process.

http://advanced-television.com/2015/...fta-version-2/
BT Sport to launch “FTA version”


John Petter, head of BT’s consumer division, has revealed that the company plans to launch a FTA version of BT Sport.

Since its launch in August 2013 BT Sport has been free for its broadband subscribers, while other viewers pay £13.50 a month. However, the arrival of the Champions League and Europa League, which is costing the company £897 million over three years, means BT Sport will no longer be free from next season.

Speaking to the Evening Standard, Petter commented: “It will be a very reasonable price. And some games will be free as well. There’ll be a free-to-air version of BT Sport.”

He continued: “Sports that go exclusively pay-TV are not good for the long-term health of any sport because you narrow the base over time. We can bring something here through a model that doesn’t depend on such high subscription fees, that gives the sport access to a very large viewership through free-to-air. This, combined with a low pay threshold, is potentially a good model to adopt for sustainability in the long term.”

Speaking on his perceived success of BT Sport, Petter said: “What we set out to do was give sport back to the people because, relative to other markets, the take up of premium sports in the UK has been low. Around half the five million households that view BT Sport did not watch any premium sport before our entry into the market in 2013. Our proportion of viewers under 25 is noticeably higher than for either Sky Sports or Eurosport. We are now the biggest sports channel in the nation’s pubs and clubs, which were previously being choked by the high prices demanded by Sky.”

So will this FTA channel be on Freeview,Freesat and Virgin? And what matches will be shown? Not any games of real interest I guess!

vincerooney 11-05-2015 10:55

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35776650)
So a few games will be free , before the BT deal we had Champions League games on ITV and Europa League on ITV4 so sadly whatever BT offer free will be far less than we have had previous seasons.

Spot on sir. Probably be some rubbish games shoved on too!

telegramsam 11-05-2015 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35777132)
Spot on sir. Probably be some rubbish games shoved on too!

My thoughts exactly!

pengedragon 16-05-2015 15:49

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has anyone's sky sports season ticket run out yet ? have about 3 weeks to run on mine i think and wondering what the procedure was and if they offered you any deals to keep it on

i see premier sports have picked up the copa america which is rather disappointing

tassiekev 16-05-2015 16:44

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35778229)
has anyone's sky sports season ticket run out yet ? have about 3 weeks to run on mine i think and wondering what the procedure was and if they offered you any deals to keep it on

i see premier sports have picked up the copa america which is rather disappointing

Mine's the same. I understood we'd be charged something like £29 pm following the expiration of the season pass. Only for a couple of months in my case as my contract is nearly up, but it will make a hole in the budget!

Sad news about Copa America, I was trying to find Boca v River Plate the other night but it wasn't on any of the regular sports channels. It's not often I watch the Sth American football because of the time difference but it would be nice if it was available. I've got no intention of subscribing to Premier Sports.

pengedragon 16-05-2015 17:15

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i certainly wont be carrying it on at virtually 30 quid a month just to watch a bit of cricket, suspect i'll be finding use for my dad's sky go login again

i'm hoping we get offered a premier sports deal for the duration of the tournament, i would like to watch it

telegramsam 17-05-2015 13:12

Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
I imagine Sky will have to offer some sort of deal to keep Sky Sports customers once the Champions League has finished,and the season ticket might just do it for some of us. Was the season ticket offered to BSkyB customers or just Virgin Media? or was it something Virgin did independently of BSkyB?

denphone 17-05-2015 13:15

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As far as l know it was done independently of BSkyB.


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