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I don't believe the prices quoted on DS though.
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Sky might not be stupid but they are certainly greedy.
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But how do you think they are going to recuperate the high price they paid for Football rights |
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Personally, I buy second hand optical media of both DVDs and CDs, at a fraction of the cost, and then rip them. |
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I've just received a 30 day free trial offer for Amazon Prime, not sure if my Blu-ray player has this app, but what's your thought's guys? should I give it a go?
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Don't forget to deselect auto renew (or similar setting) on Amazon if you don't want to continue after the free trial, or you will be charged £79. |
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I thought this thread was about sports channel news. Seems to have wandered a bit OT.
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Interesting proposal here for an SPFL Network http://www.thefootballlife.co.uk/
BT extends Premiership Rugby deal until 2021 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rug...ish-clubs.html |
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Y has Virgin put the number thing what appears on Sky sports channel on the left instead of the right well annoying
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BBC Two has acquired the rights from BT Sport to show the new series of The Clare Balding Show in an innovative new deal, which will see the show screened on both channels.
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Well it won't make any difference to me what channels it is on as l don't watch such over-rated rubbish.
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Ok I admit it, I watch the Claire balding show and not ashamed to say I like it. There you go, What's wrong with BBC showing for the reasons they expressed? They get a show that probably cost BT more to make then they are buying rights so it's another filler in their schedule at value to tax payer rather than making their own similar one. Some would say Claire balding is one of their own so makes transition to be shown on BBC more palatable
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It will probably be better a day after on the BBC too as it will be edited to half an hour and will be advert free.
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It's also worth considering the fact that licence fee payers don't do so in order to see their money prop up the offerings of private companies, just as BT Sport subscribers don't expect to see the content they pay a premium to watch end up fta the following day. |
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Equally, it's an exaggeration that the BBC will be propping up the offerings of a private company by paying for half an hour a week of previously-shown programming.The BBC does prop up private companies by commissioning original programming from them and by acting as a training ground for the industry. |
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And I don't "hate" the BBC. But, and we're going over old ground here, I don't watch it and I don't like the institutional bias in its news output, so I'd like the option of not having to pay for it. |
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So how do you know it has institutional bias in its news output if you don't watch it Andy?...:D |
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How could you have not watched any of the 2012 Olympics? The feel good mood of the country was awesome, thanks mainly to the BBC showing the Olympics FTA. When was the last full year you went without watching or listening to something on the BBC or which was comissioned by the BBC? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? I don't watch VIVA, music channels, shopping channels etc. Can I petition VM not to pay for those? No, I have to accept that I have to help spread the cost for the others who do. Oh, I don't smoke either. I would like the option not to pay for the medical costs attributed to those who do smoke. Where do I go to whinge about my tax concerns in this case? That's right, I can't. I do like a drink now and again, so can my money be put into research for drink related problems? No, that's right, it can't. The BBC is and always will be a tax, it is as simple as that. |
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You can petition all you like, but you have a choice to subscribe to them or not, so it's not quite the same thing. I'm not really prepared to respond to an argument that equates serious medical complaints with telly. The licence fee isn't a tax, but I don't like it - does the fact that you've listed some other things that are wrong mean I have to be quiet about it? As far as the subject goes then I see this deal as an indication that BT aren't doing quite as well from a viewership and a revenue point of view as they would like and the innovation in this deal is the fact that now more people can watch it and they can earn some money from it. ---------- Post added at 06:19 ---------- Previous post was at 06:10 ---------- In 2006 senior figures admitted a "cultural liberal bias" http://www.standard.co.uk/news/yes-w...s-7088133.html In 2010 the DG admitted a "massive bias to the left" http://www.standard.co.uk/news/bbc-c...s-6509105.html In 2013 an internal report into impartiality found a "deep liberal bias" http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...as-immigration This last report cost £175,000 of our money. The BBC, who commissioned the report and spent our money on it, dismissed it as merely having some "interesting insights". Just in case anybody wants d me to provide sources for.my earlier post. |
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Since you have mentioned it though, I can drop my package, but I lose my HD channels. The principle of the argument is the same. I have to pay for channels I don't watch watch. It's not a problem for me though, as I know many other people enjoy them. Again, the smoking point was rhetorical, I know a number of smokers and I want them to stay as healthy as they can, for as long as they can. In theory though, I could use the argument that I am paying for a nhs service I have never used or intend to use - why should I pay for that service? Nope, you can be as vocal as you want. I hope this does not mean I am not to allowed to challenge people on their views though? Again, not looking to cause a debate on this, will welcome any further comments from your goodself though. |
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If you want to consume tv or radio from ANY source you must pay the licence fee regardless of whether or not you consume any of the products it pays for. I'm fine not debating, but I simply do not see them as the same thing. ---------- Post added at 15:00 ---------- Previous post was at 14:54 ---------- Quote:
Re. your first point, insignificant or not, I am uncomfortable with an on going subscription channel being allowed a weekly half hour long advert on the national broadcaster and being paid public money for the privilege. Using the licence fee to pay for a full length repeat of a show broadcast the night before on a subscription channel is not the same as the BBC buying in content from private content producing companies. |
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Finding a pure-play TV production company is quite hard with the likes of channel owners ITV, Sky and Fox busily acquiring the remaining companies. There is a similar but not identical precedent for the BBC's acquisition of this content. It will show the next series of Ripper Street which premiered on Amazon. I'm sure there are many others. I appreciate that a show from BT wil gather more attention given the rivalry between it and Sky for sports rights. |
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If I'm honest I think you're splitting hairs a bit , at least in terms of this debate, in differentiating between the BBC and the BBC trust, although yes I recognise that they are separate bodies - however a quick check of the trustees register of interest shows that one trustee is married to a member of the BBC's news team, etc.
Either way, yes, fair enough, the report was done by the regulator, not the corporation. Or in other words there have been admissions of bias by employees of the corporation, its executive AND its regulator. So, thanks for making that point for me, I guess. As for the rest, like you say, we'll have to see when the programme airs. |
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I'm not sure what your point is regarding the marriage between a trustee and a member of the BBC's news team is. It doesn't make them the same entity. Your point about bias is a powerful one and is impossible to disagree with as the BBC itself acknowledged it. I feel that your side comments unintentionally weaken your point though. But I think it's correct that licence fee payers like you scrutinise the BBC and keep it on its toes. I share some of your concerns but I take a more optimistic view of things until I'm proven wrong. I look forward to watching the programme with keen interest now. :) |
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Could the move to show Claire balding show a possible indicator that a cosy relationship is being built between BT and BBC and champions league football which BT promise to show one game for each English team could be shown on BBC?
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l doubt it.
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BT TV is restructuring and has big plans for a summer relaunch.
Alex Green, ex-VM and the head of BT TV will leave. Sources told the Telegraph that Richard Young, the head of business development, Kate Dean, the director of content and James Lord, the head of commercial for BT Sport have already left. There will be a big push in the summer with the launch of a 4K BT TV box and new bundles with mobile services. Champions League coverage will be charged for and pubs heavily marketed to. Managing Director of BT TV Delia Bushell said: “This summer will be almost as big for us as the launch of BT Sport two years ago. It’s a big moment.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...ague-push.html |
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If BT think that many will pay extra for their Champions League coverage then they are very deluded in their thinking.
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I must confess I do watch some champions league matches but wouldn`t pay extra to do so. I was asked this in a survey I did some time ago (it didn`t say who the survey was on behalf of but I think we can now guess it was BT),anyway I stressed that I wouldn`t pay for champions league football.
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Same here, I pay for sky sports, have BT on XL but there is no way I would pay purely for champions league football
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It will be interesting to see how everything is priced up in the summer. From BT Retail's perspective, it will have three new offerings:
- Mobile phones - 4K BT TV box and some 4K BT Sport channels - Champions League channel It wil be interesting to see what VM does about Champions League because only it and BT will be retailing it to customers, assuming they can strike a deal. |
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I can assure you that l wont be paying for Champions League on BT, we pay enough as it is for football on TV.
BT are trying to beat Sky, but they wont. In fact did anyone notice that on my Tivo box at the weekend there was no screens on the red button for the football on SS1 At the end of the day, the viewer can decide what to pay for. And then maybe we wont get ripped off. This season, l have watched Spurs 90% on Tv As it is too expensive to go live |
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Three is better for all the other options, even if you have BT Broadband. The £12 (£17 no broadband) is £11 with Three and the £20 (£25) is actually £17 with Three plus there is a 20GB cap on the BT option whilst Three is unlimited (so long as you don't tether). http://www.three.co.uk/Store/SIM/Plans_for_phones |
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Jesus why do we have to listen to BT's terrible football pundits tonight.:td::(
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Lets put it this way. BT have a feedback form, but l cannot see the point in complaining about them.
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UFC comes to Freeview this Saturday via Pick TV:
http://uk.ufc.com/where-to-watch-ufc...onzaga-cro-cop Strange as I thought BT had the rights to UFC? |
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And 5o season 1 start on Pick on Monday.
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I'm sure BTsports have some ufc still i've not seen anything on my app though yet. |
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Does anyone think VM will offer the sky sports season ticket again this year?
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Of course they don't have the Champions League and Europa League come the start of the new football season so is it worth it?.
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Sky prices go up. They lose champions league coverage.
Yet 1. 1/4 million extra customers 2. sales up to 8.4 billion 3. profits up 20% to 1 billion 3. company worth 19 billion I am confused. They must be doing something right elsewhere. Or they are doing a Tesco. |
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l certainly would like to see a real breakdown of their figures as one suspects most of their new customers in this country have come from Now TV and thus they have added them on to their main customer numbers to make it look better then it really is.
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The subscription increase hadn't been implemented for those results , clearly bringing new products for additional revenue streams on both the Now TV and satellite side is paying dividends.
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I have a NowTV subscription, 3 months free, from a chromecast offer. I bet you £50 they count me in those subscriber numbers even though i've never given them a penny. |
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Did a survey a couple of months back for VM, specifically on Season Pass. Can't remember them all (or even that many to be truthful) but one of the options was a Season Pass for £250 for all football for 18 months. Honestly can't remember if it was Sky only (probably was). There were other options for (say) 9 months with 3 months free. I expect we'll hear something about July ready for next season.
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BT Sport to broadcast Scottish Premiership play-offs.
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Channel 5 to show Football League highlights in prime-time Saturday slot.
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Anyone know if sky still have the rights to county cricket and if so how many games a year they have? Can't ever see any on. It's strange too as you'd surely think it'd be a good channel filler for them as they have so many channels!
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as regards to county 4 dayers, they dont show a great deal last tiem apart from battle of the roses but with Sangakarra and Pietersen at Surrey who knows. I think though as we have quite few tests lined up they probably will stick to short formats but lets see |
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BT signs up 266,000 new fibre broadband customers in last quarter.
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Good news for those who were concerned that more players paying for football rights would mean increased costs, and for those who thought that BT would not attempt to protect consumers from the high prices demanded by Sky.
I've always said that more competition was a good thing which would eventually see prices falling. This appears to be the start of the process. http://advanced-television.com/2015/...fta-version-2/ BT Sport to launch “FTA version” John Petter, head of BT’s consumer division, has revealed that the company plans to launch a FTA version of BT Sport. Since its launch in August 2013 BT Sport has been free for its broadband subscribers, while other viewers pay £13.50 a month. However, the arrival of the Champions League and Europa League, which is costing the company £897 million over three years, means BT Sport will no longer be free from next season. Speaking to the Evening Standard, Petter commented: “It will be a very reasonable price. And some games will be free as well. There’ll be a free-to-air version of BT Sport.” He continued: “Sports that go exclusively pay-TV are not good for the long-term health of any sport because you narrow the base over time. We can bring something here through a model that doesn’t depend on such high subscription fees, that gives the sport access to a very large viewership through free-to-air. This, combined with a low pay threshold, is potentially a good model to adopt for sustainability in the long term.” Speaking on his perceived success of BT Sport, Petter said: “What we set out to do was give sport back to the people because, relative to other markets, the take up of premium sports in the UK has been low. Around half the five million households that view BT Sport did not watch any premium sport before our entry into the market in 2013. Our proportion of viewers under 25 is noticeably higher than for either Sky Sports or Eurosport. We are now the biggest sports channel in the nation’s pubs and clubs, which were previously being choked by the high prices demanded by Sky.” |
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So a few games will be free , before the BT deal we had Champions League games on ITV and Europa League on ITV4 so sadly whatever BT offer free will be far less than we have had previous seasons.
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has anyone's sky sports season ticket run out yet ? have about 3 weeks to run on mine i think and wondering what the procedure was and if they offered you any deals to keep it on
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Sad news about Copa America, I was trying to find Boca v River Plate the other night but it wasn't on any of the regular sports channels. It's not often I watch the Sth American football because of the time difference but it would be nice if it was available. I've got no intention of subscribing to Premier Sports. |
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i certainly wont be carrying it on at virtually 30 quid a month just to watch a bit of cricket, suspect i'll be finding use for my dad's sky go login again
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I imagine Sky will have to offer some sort of deal to keep Sky Sports customers once the Champions League has finished,and the season ticket might just do it for some of us. Was the season ticket offered to BSkyB customers or just Virgin Media? or was it something Virgin did independently of BSkyB?
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As far as l know it was done independently of BSkyB.
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