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Taf 30-11-2021 20:23

Re: Coronavirus
 
If omicron turns out to be a major disaster heading our way, inactivity by those in charge would be attacked as vehemently as the return of a few rules to try to limit the possible danger.

Just waiting for the science to determine omicron's effects are going to be negligible or significant is just not thinkable.

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An estimated 92.8% of the adult population in England, 91.4% in Wales, 93.3% in Northern Ireland and 92.5% in Scotland tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies in the week beginning 1 November 2021.

Across the four UK countries, 93.1% to 95.8% of adults had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine and 83.5% to 89.8% of adults had received at least two doses.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ights/vaccines

Pierre 30-11-2021 20:44

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103649)

I can see the relevance of your witty little retort to the second quote. But not the first.

Oh, and Chris and several others have questioned it, and that’s fine. Also it’s not really a conspiracy theory anymore is it?

https://www.ft.com/content/923e0256-...e-64c066b8b70b


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103638)
Or...

It has reduced what could have been a higher number of infections.

That's like saying, after you see a car crash, "told you brakes were pointless!"... :erm:

Could. I presume you have the data.

1andrew1 30-11-2021 20:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36103650)
If omicron turns out to be a major disaster heading our way, inactivity by those in charge would be attacked as vehemently as the return of a few rules to try to limit the possible danger.

Just waiting for the science to determine omicron's effects are going to be negligible or significant is just not thinkable.

It's sensible risk management with no downside apart from offending a small, vocal minority.

Pierre 30-11-2021 21:05

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36103654)
It's sensible risk management with no downside apart from offending a small, vocal minority.

Or over precautionary and contradictory and without any evidentiary basis.

Mr K 30-11-2021 21:47

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36103612)
££££££££££

Billy Bunter says we should party on! Dr Jenny Harries, chief executive of the UK's Health Security Agency says we should exercise caution. Who to believe? The muppet who ignored his own advice , caught covid and nearly died, or a medical expert ? Tough one.

papa smurf 30-11-2021 21:52

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36103656)
Billy Bunter says we should party on! Dr Jenny Harries, chief executive of the UK's Health Security Agency says we should exercise caution. Who to believe? The muppet who ignored his own advice , caught covid and nearly died, or a medical expert ? Tough one.

i don't believe he nearly died i think he got a bit out of breath and sweaty and used it to his advantage, I've come to realize every thing about bojo is a lie.

Hugh 30-11-2021 21:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36103637)
All that mask wearing hand washing and vaccine passports etc hasn't worked then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103638)
Or...

It has reduced what could have been a higher number of infections.

That's like saying, after you see a car crash, "told you brakes were pointless!"... :erm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36103652)
Could. I presume you have the data.

I stated an opinion as a possibility, PS stated an opinion as a fact - strange you didn’t ask him for his data.

My proposition was based on the scientific evidence that immunisations and masks reduce infection and transmission, his is based on ???

Re the Wuhan lab-leak theory - the article from May (and others like it) states it’s considered as an possibility, and shouldn’t be ruled out until evidence shows otherwise, not, as you have stated, the only option; that’s the difference between looking for facts and a conspiracy theory.

Hope this helps?

Mr K 30-11-2021 22:00

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36103657)
i don't believe he nearly died i think he got a bit out of breath and sweaty and used it to his advantage, I've come to realize every thing about bojo is a lie.

Better late than never, but he does have a track record of being sacked for telling porky pies so can't be a surprise.
I predict another sacking within the year from his own party.

Pierre 01-12-2021 08:33

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103658)
Hope this helps?

Not really.

Maggy 01-12-2021 09:04

Re: Coronavirus
 
Why not?

Hugh 01-12-2021 09:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
An anagram of Omicrom B is, wait for it, NO CRIMBO!

This revelation is terrifying!

Of course, for this anagram to work, you have to add a B to Omicrom which nobody naming the variant actually did but that's just to put us, the little people, off the scent!

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE! DON'T LAP IT UP AND OBEY!

Julian 01-12-2021 09:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103672)
An anagram of Omicrom B is, wait for it, NO CRIMBO!

This revelation is terrifying!

Of course, for this anagram to work, you have to add a B to Omicrom which nobody naming the variant actually did but that's just to put us, the little people, off the scent!

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

An actual anagram of Omicron is moronic :erm:

tweetiepooh 01-12-2021 10:11

Re: Coronavirus
 
Come on folks. At the moment there is a new threat from a variant of a virus that will get here and will spread and there are some currently mild suggestions to try to slow spread down until we get a better picture. If nothing was done and it proves to be more transmissible and more "deadly" then the government would be in trouble. If they shut everything down again they would be in trouble. Tentative evidence suggests it is transmissible, it may evade vaccine immunity but may not cause extreme acute symptoms but until that is known it's better to do something than nothing.

1andrew1 01-12-2021 10:27

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36103655)
Or over precautionary and contradictory and without any evidentiary basis.

Until we know more about the virus then it seems a proportionate response to me. No piece of Covid-19 law is perfect but this should not be a reason for adopting a light-touch approach.

pip08456 01-12-2021 10:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
2 Doctors have Omicron, one who recently returned from London is believed to have contracted it here. My be more widespread than first thought.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...ant-1.10428042


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