Cable Forum - Brexit (Old)

Ok, thanks.

Going back to an earlier post you made, if a general election is called, the PM is still the PM until she is re-elected or someone else wins. Do you know the position of MP's during the election period? I ask because an MP once said at a meeting that he was the MP for X area and was told off because, during an election, he was simply a prospective parliamentary candidate along with all the others standing for election. Does this mean that they are no longer MP's as soon as an election is called ie Parliament is dissolved?

If so, it seems odd that the system that we have is a PM with no MP's and no Parliament!

It's just been on the news that the three police forces in Yorkshire have now cancelled all leave for their staff over the Brexit period. They must be forecasting civil disobedience, which I think could well happen from either side depending on the outcome of Brexit.

There is basically a caretaker government in place to deal with essential stuff, but otherwise we have no Government or MPs during elections.

jonbxx

13-03-2019 17:57

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I like to see what the press is reporting on Brexit and came across a gem in the Mail. Apparently, the 100% tariff on fish from the EU will double the retail price of fish. Totally wrong (project fear perhaps?) it would double the imported price, not retail.

The same error was repeated in both a picture and in the text. If we rely on the media to get our facts, what hope do we have when articles are so badly wrong?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-Britain.html

pip08456

13-03-2019 18:30

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35986427)

The only tariff mrntioned is on "protected fish and seafood products (100 per cent)". This does not mean all fish imports.

Carth

13-03-2019 18:39

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I like the way they keep saying brand new cars imported from Europe will cost an extra 10% . . . leave em in the showroom, watch what happens to the price then :D

Hugh	13-03-2019 18:52

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35986425)

It's hard to know what to plan for on the 29 march
option 1 celebration party
option 2 peoples revolt

Wouldn't the be the same?

Just a group of people muttering unhappily to themselves about how the world has gone to the dogs? ;)

Chris

13-03-2019 19:21

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35986426)

There is basically a caretaker government in place to deal with essential stuff, but otherwise we have no Government or MPs during elections.

Not true.

The government is still the government because it is appointed by the Queen, not by parliament or by the electorate.

When a general election is to be held, the Prime Minister asks the Queen to dissolve parliament. The Queen does so. From that point on, there are no MPs. There are still government ministers. By convention they don’t do anything radical during the election period but they still hold office and they continue to do so unless and until the Prime Minister resigns.

After an election’s results are known, the PM will either continue in post, or else (s)he will go to Buckingham Palace, tell the Queen that (s)he can no longer form a government likely to enjoy the confidence of the House of Commons, and advise the Queen which member of the House of Commons most likely will have the confidence of the House. The Prime Minister then resigns, and the person they have advised the Queen should appoint is summoned to the Palace and invited to form a government.

In our system, all of that normally happens within hours of an election result being known but in 2010, while the Coalition was being formed, it took several days.

To return to the main point however. The government continues to exist and has full executive power during an election campaign.

TheDaddy

13-03-2019 19:26

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35986378)

Loved a guy on Five Live this morning. He thought we could tell the EU to 'do one' on account of we have rabbits in the fields and can grow our own potatoes ! Bit of limited diet ! :D What next ? mud houses and horse drawn transport ...

I wonder if that's what he voted for or if that's the cake and eat it situation bozo promised us, still at least we'll be free...

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35986380)

Problem with a rabbit only diet is it can lead to malnutrition because the meat is so lean it's missing fat and other nutrients. Otherwise I applaud his enthusiasm..But even during WW2 we couldn't grow enough to feed the population which was a lot lower than it is now and we required help from other countries in the commonwealth. We will still need to import some foods.

Rabbit is also easy to spoil as although they're easy to skin it's easy to nick their spleen iirc and spill the contents over the meat and it's not just can lead to malnutrition, you eat nothing but rabbit for three months and you'll be dead.

Not sure how I'd feel if I were a farmer, on the one hand they've got this new rabbit potato combo revenue stream but on the other Minford is still espousing that running down farming "like we did coal and steel" is the way of the future, I'm not really sure how being totally dependent on other countries for food is taking back control.

jonbxx

13-03-2019 20:17

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35986432)

The only tariff mrntioned is on "protected fish and seafood products (100 per cent)". This does not mean all fish imports.

Good point. I have had a look and haven’t found a harmonised standard for ‘protected fish’. Plenty of different categories under the fish section but not ‘protected’.

Dave42

13-03-2019 20:22

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parliament votes to rule out no deal in any circumstance

Malthouse amendment defeated

mrmistoffelees

13-03-2019 20:37

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Reese-Mogg looking rather annoyed

Gavin78

13-03-2019 20:38

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This has to be one of the worst PM of all time next to Corbyn and Blair when it comes to spilling out crap from their mouth.

Mr K	13-03-2019 20:42

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35986461)

Reese-Mogg looking rather annoyed

Lol ! Brexiteers really will regret not voting for Brexit yesterday... Can't believe they did so.

Hugh	13-03-2019 20:48

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Nigel Farage calls for the EU to reject any request to delay Brexit.

So Nigel wants ‘foreign’ politicians to frustrate the democratic will of the United Kingdom’s sovereign Parliament?

Damien

13-03-2019 20:50

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The main motion still has to pass and now the government is whipping against it

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