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And I have repeatedly told you that how the hell can Brexiteers enact it when they were not in government or steering the ship ???

It's not rocket science.

This is a Remainer led farce because there is Remainers at the helm.

May did not have the task of actually doing it at all either, she's so incredibly weak and let the EU and Remainers in her inner circle completely walk all over her, but that appears to have been her intention all along, hence why I say, it should have been a Brexiteer in the Captains chair!!!

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The thought occurs that they did have a chance to be in charge when Cameron ran away..Why didn't they?

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Because there is that little thing called a Leadership bid, that saw Theresa May win. :rolleyes:

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No it is not exactly at all - How can they facilitate it when they are not in charge... ???

Give them the chance to be in charge and it would be a total different story, we've been completely bowled over by the EU with Remainers sabotaging negotiations, revealing our hand so publicly, demanding no deal removed from the table former MPs and Prime Ministers, who are staunch Remainers meeting with Michel Barnier. You got war monger Tony Blair running around in the background too.

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But they had a chance to try to take charge when there was the Conservative leadership contest but the Brexiteer candidates were more interested in warring among themselves for their own personal political benefits rather then uniting to make sure they had a strong Brexiteer candidate in the leadership contest where then they could possibly win and take charge of events.

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Because they lost the Referendum to stay, so democracy has to prevail but you're right, they didn't have to and they quite clearly have done everything to thwart the result and we are, where we are...

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That's natural and common in any leadership bid.

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And nothing has changed since as you can see for yourself..

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Ain't that the truth.

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Had the result been the other way but by the same margin, Do you not think it would be roles reversed here ? I would understand completely those who want to leave doing everything could to effect change where possible.

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Carry on Leaving aka keep on voting till they get the "right" result?

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Yes, agreed, and Nigel Farage said this would be the case.
It makes sense. If you lose 70-30 you've little chance of changing people's opinions but at 52-48 you do.

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h/t @richard_littler

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Didn't a couple of other countries vote to leave and then, after a second referendum, decide to stay?

Following the result, maybe the electorate in these countries foresaw the problems that we are now having whilst attempting to leave and decided it wasn't worth it when it came to the second referendum??

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No country had ever held a referendum on leaving the EU before the UK in 2016.

A few countries have held referendums on EU treaties, where their constitutions required it (Ireland, for example). On several occasions a ‘no’ vote in a referendum has resulted in cosmetic changes to the proposed treaty followed by a second referendum.

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Ok, thanks.

Going back to an earlier post you made, if a general election is called, the PM is still the PM until she is re-elected or someone else wins. Do you know the position of MP's during the election period? I ask because an MP once said at a meeting that he was the MP for X area and was told off because, during an election, he was simply a prospective parliamentary candidate along with all the others standing for election. Does this mean that they are no longer MP's as soon as an election is called ie Parliament is dissolved?

If so, it seems odd that the system that we have is a PM with no MP's and no Parliament!

It's just been on the news that the three police forces in Yorkshire have now cancelled all leave for their staff over the Brexit period. They must be forecasting civil disobedience, which I think could well happen from either side depending on the outcome of Brexit.

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When exactly is the brexit period ? some are after an extension of artical 50

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True, they did also say that they are keeping things under review as development take place.