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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103193)

The Torygraph seems to have been selective in it’s quoting…

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/c...n-b968563.html

Restrictions ( above travel ones already implemented) only need be considered if this variant causes a more severe reaction requiring hospitalisation or more deaths.

At the moment, there is no evidence on the reduction of vaccine efficacy, especially for this that have had the 3rd dose.

I know the media are wishing for something akin to the bubonic plague.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36103161)

The British would probably grudgingly accept another lockdown, there would be protests of course. But I don’t believe a mass uprising of the populace is on the cards. Let’s hope we don’t get to find out.

I wouldn’t. Also protesting about it is illegal. The government sorted that out long ago.

There is little evidence for anything yet in regards to this new variant - and there are ultimately going to be more and more detections of it, but this is because they are looking for it, this is why they have told everyone who has come back from the affected areas and anyone who is coming back from them to isolate and book a PCR test.

At the moment all detections are people who have been to Africa, mainly southern Africa, and people who have recently returned from there. We will probably also see a bit of transmission in their close contacts especially households and they should be isolating and tested too. I would also probably suggest that anyone who has been outside the UK in the last week should also take a LFT daily if they're going to go anywhere and avoid non-essential journeys especially those to crowded spaces.

That should be enough to slow it down for now.

There's also been some conversation out of SA which suggests it is milder, though I suppose it's early days on this as we won't know even there until it's a couple of weeks in as hospital admissions tend to lag getting the virus by a week or so.

But they shouldn't really be looking to impose anything more on the general population until we know that it is causing an issue with vaccinated people. If it's starting to significantly infect double or triple jabbed people to the extent that they will be in hospital with the virus, then they will need to try and slow that down in the community.

Speculative optimism in the absence of evidence. Helpful.

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36103159)

How did we jump from Delta to Omicron ?
Pretty sure there are a few letters in between.

Didn’t want to upset the Chinese - the modus operandi of the WHO. As I said previously in the topic second only to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in terms of harming human health in the pandemic.

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Originally Posted by nffc (Post 36103200)

By which time it will be too late - shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted…

The hospitalised patients will have spread it to others before they are admitted.

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Originally Posted by nffc (Post 36103200)

Nearly two years ago the detections were from people who had travelled to China, your statement holds no merit.

You’re playing the reactive card, that might have held some sway two years ago when we knew nothing about the virus. But now ?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36103197)

Of course you wouldn’t. But then, I wouldn’t expect anything less

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Originally Posted by nffc (Post 36103200)

At the moment all detections are people who have been to Africa, mainly southern Africa, and people who have recently returned from there.

The person with it in Belgium had never been to Africa, and knew no-one who had.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36103207)

So much for a super mutant variant. One would expect different figures from SA cosidering their low rate of vaccination.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1638033322

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/south-africa

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1638033685

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1638033685

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/11/13.jpg

Indeed, if countries are testing enough. Or, not fudging the results (looking at Turkey & India)

Face masks for shops but not pubs. Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36103209)

Face masks for shops but not pubs. Hilarious.

You need the one with the built in straw. Paper of course.

Just because it was first detected in SA, doesn’t mean it started there.

If you were watching the PM's press conference, did you notice a press hack camera with a huge telephoto lens was permanently trained on the PM waiting for him fart or lose his place or something?

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36103210)

You need the one with the built in straw. Paper of course.

You don’t, that’s the funny bit.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103211)

Just because it was first detected in SA, doesn’t mean it started there.

Good point, where should we look? Madagascar looks suspicious, just loitering there.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36103212)

If you were watching the PM's press conference, did you notice a press hack camera with a huge telephoto lens was permanently trained on the PM waiting for him fart or lose his place or something?

Trying to catch a snap of peppa perhaps ?

Who's willing to bet it's not going to be 3 weeks. And before then, they will probably put more restrictions on.

Working from home is still the most useful and they missed the point on it again.

Also, he couldn't have been less clear on the masks point. It's not in effect yet and no mention of exactly what he meant - he said he's leaving that to Javid. Presumably as it's not law at the moment they need to get it through Parliament too...