Cable Forum - Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

There is another online petition on the very subject of public bodies having access to our personal information. local councils are abusing the act to spy upon their own constituents over trivial matters.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ripact/

Perfect example of mission creep. I recently met one of the Financial Times legal correspondence when I was in London and they were discussing this issue.

Anyone who isn't scared of Phorm mission creep with this RIPA issue making weekly headlines needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

Alexander Hanff

Cobbydaler

08-06-2008 11:24

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

At least the Home Affairs Select Committee seem to be aware of the concept of function creep:

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The government should limit the data it collects on citizens for its ID card scheme to avoid creating a surveillance society, a group of MPs has warned.
The home affairs select committee called for proper safeguards on the plans for compulsory ID cards to stop "function creep" threatening privacy.

Link

SelfProtection

08-06-2008 12:05

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34570646)

13,974... 13,975... 13,976

Make sure your name is on the list of the smartest people on the planet. Only twenty four chances left to say "my name is in the first 14 thousand".

:group:

Already Done

OldBear

08-06-2008 12:59

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34570712)

At least the Home Affairs Select Committee seem to be aware of the concept of function creep:
ID cards 'could threaten privacy'

From the same story:

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Information Commissioner Richard Thomas said he welcomed the report.

"It is essential that positive action is taken to ensure the potential risks of a surveillance society never manifest themselves in this country," Mr Thomas said.

"Every possible step must be taken to ensure public trust in the way that personal information is collected and stored."

Really, Richard? Then why won't you take what we are saying about BT/Phorm/Webwise seriously? :mad:

OB

AlexanderHanff

08-06-2008 13:41

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NoDPI is undergoing some maintenance at the moment whilst we switch the entire site to SSL, so it may be up and down a bit this afternoon whilst we test the certificate.

Alexander Hanff

---------- Post added at 13:41 ---------- Previous post was at 13:20 ----------

Maintenance is now complete and all access to the site should now default/redirect to https

If you experience any problems with the certificate please let me know.

Alexander Hanff

Florence

08-06-2008 13:59

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Alexander the first all HTTPS website nice shame though that BT has brought the internet into disrepute making this move needed.

AlexanderHanff

08-06-2008 14:03

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

I doubt it is the first 100% https site hehehe but it is a good start. I think I feel a campaign to get the major browsers to add OpenCA as a valid certificate authority. It wouldn't help with hardware overheads but it would at least make the certificates free.

Alexander Hanff

SelfProtection

08-06-2008 14:15

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff (Post 34570802)

True it doesn't help the Website hardware overheads, but if an ISP is misusing DPI, then it not only does it avoid unwanted data gathering, it also prevents the multiple redirects & time lags imposed on the users Browser.

Florence

08-06-2008 14:24

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

The AGM report has some interesting reading in it sadly the mention of phorm or webwise must show how thye feel it needs to be hidden from public/shareholders eyes is this due to many British people having Ethics etc.

Well sent off a few questions to Ian and Emma lets see if Ian passes the book to Emma to reply if he does she is the one set to fall if it goes pearshaped.

serial

08-06-2008 14:59

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Does anyone know exactly where in the Barbican the AGM is taking place?

AlexanderHanff

08-06-2008 15:05

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by serial (Post 34570824)

Does anyone know exactly where in the Barbican the AGM is taking place?

Main entrance, although I still need to try and scout the site, I never had a chance this week whilst I was in London. If anyone else in London can go take some photos of areas in the vicinity of the main entrance (which is where the BT AGM notification is telling shareholders to go) it would save me the time and expense of a trip to London.

I will be adding an event page to the site early next week (hopefully Monday) which will have more specific details for the Protest Rally including maps, directions, resources etc.

Alexander Hanff

Angry@VMedia

08-06-2008 15:39

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OMG, this is STILL going on?
Why are people ignoring the facts that DPI is ILLEGAL, and so is SPYING on people????

Just shows what a truely corrupted govenment we have got and I am totally ashamed to call myself "British"

As soon as I can afford it, I'm out of this stupid, pathetic country for ever!

Toto	08-06-2008 16:04

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Angry@VMedia (Post 34570849)

I'm a bit lost in this thread, assuming that DPI means Deep Packet Inspection, is the use of such technology illegal in the UK?

Florence

08-06-2008 16:11

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by Toto (Post 34570865)

I'm a bit lost in this thread, assuming that DPI means Deep Packet Inspection, is the use of such technology illegal in the UK?

To use it to improve services like giving VOIP priority etc no as it is only sniffing then prioritiings so only checks headers and titles if I remember right but what BT plan is to use DPI to harvest keywords from websites you visit to target adverts to you using a partner in the name of Phorm >121media>peopleonpage rootkits.

This is more of a intrusion as it wil see everything you see on your screen not just identify what you are downloading. Also the adverts could be large in size and you are paying for a certain amount of bandwidth and if like me block all adverts to keep all the bandwidth for your surfing.

Angry@VMedia

08-06-2008 16:26

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Originally Posted by Florence (Post 34570871)

This is another point...

If I was to go messing around with people's pcs with the EXPLICIT reason to gain information about them and where they visit, I'd have my equipment seized, be thrown into a cell and probably would get a hefty sentence in the process, if I CANNOT do this, and neither can any other individual, WHY oh WHY can COMPANIES get away with it???
Then again, 1 rule for US, another for THEM, see this country sucks more than a hungry prossie!!!

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