Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

False equivalence. The public didn't make those rules.

Saving Johnson hands Starmer the keys to No. 10.

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I don't think the media sat on it. Whoever leaked to them did.

As for there being a time and place to deal with it well it came to light now. So they have to deal with it. There is always going to be something else going on and the Government have to be able to deal with it. Johnson could have dealt with this last month if he was honest instead of lying. That dishonesty is probably more damaging for him that the party accusations themselves.

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And the ones who were caught doing it were fined due to laws passed by the guy who broke them.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

Yes, I don't think ITV would have sat on it for fear of someone else getting to the story first.

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I'd estimate 80% of the public don't give two hoots and are already fed up with hearing about it.

They'd be much more annoyed if they lost their evening TV viewing for a couple of hours . . . that's what they care about :Yes:

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Spot on. I think if he said he'd been under a lot of pressure sorting out Covid and had made an error of judgment then he would have got a far better reception. Instead it's been a long drawn-out process without a proper apology or independent investigation.

Seeing him more alert on PMQs on Wednesday than in the Sky News Beth Rigby interview, I wondered if the latter was an act so he could surprise Starmer at PMQs?

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As bad as Boris has been, he’s never been my favourite but I could never vote for Labour for many reasons. Racism and Antisemitic tendencies, sure Starmer has done cleanup, but he was propping up Corbyn when he was leader and it was all going on. Labour lies that led to an illegal war in Iraq and million dying, it was the biggest foreign affairs disaster they ever undertook.

But I have to say, just look at this poll….(I know, I do not like polling)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1642782975

But this is truly Devastating for Starmer, with all the flack going on with Johnson, many people still could never vote for Labour and I’m in that camp.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

That's an online Twitter poll from GB News.

Here is a proper, weighted, poll of a broad cross section of the public:https://twitter.com/BritainElects/st...52509838565377

These numbers are extremely soft but I am willing to bet you that more than 9% of voters will back Labour at the next election.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

A Twitter survey on a to the right of politics news channel. That's a self selecting poll if ever I saw one!

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

Just like polls conducted on Channel4, BBC, Guardian... they are all skewed either way because of the bias they hold and GB News is not right wing by the way. Sure they have some biased presenters but no different to the above mentioned channels so your point is moot.

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Completely irrelevant, it makes no difference who made the rules.

Unless of course you are now saying its fine to break any law or rule, as long as you are not the person who made that law/rule. :erm:

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I've said many times polls can be wrong and have been wrong in the past - sure GB News poll is off from normal polling but you are conveniently missing the point that Labour are unelectable to many many people, despite the issues with the Tory party, millions will never vote for them and I am in that camp. Keir Starmer has zero charisma and plus of the issues of propping up a leader with Anti-Semitic rhetoric that was rife when Corbyn was leader.

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Most media polls are done in conjunction with polling companies, not as a poll on Twitter. Those polling companies usually try to have defined methodologies about how they select polling questions and who they ask.

For instance here's YouGov's page - https://yougov.co.uk/about/panel-methodology/ and here's Opinium's https://www.opinium.com/political-polling/

However the polling companies don't then control how the results are published in the media, and I would think that all media companies both left and right have some examples of where the summaries of the polls don't accurately reflect what was actually asked and answered.

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

Would you call your dog 'Boris'?

Yes: 3%
No: 28%
Undecided: 69%

Conclusion . . . 69% of people have no idea what to call their dog :D

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 

I get it totally - but my point that Labour are unelectable to many, is still relevant.

Anyway - New Poll up of our own...

Which Party would you vote for now if there was a General Election Tomorrow?

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Wishful thinking, Andrew, do you really think anyone will give a toss two years and three months down the line?