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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

I think he's sober.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35812404)

Finland
Would be interesting to know what is the basis for the 8x figure. If it's just based on a simple headcount even a male only one, then Finnish males who are too young or old would be included in that side of the stats. That would mean that for comparable male populations the figure is a lot more than 8x as a disproportionate number of the asylum seekers are teenage or adult males.

Do they behave like that in their "home" countries? Are "asylum seeking" males from those countries any more likely to commit rape than those here, there, and everywhere by any other mechanisms?

What are you saying?:confused:

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I think he's saying he doesn't understand that this thread is about the Asian sex gangs that keep showing up in court.

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I don't read his comment that way but I suppose we'll have to wait for him to reply.

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812469)

I think he's sober.

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What are you saying?:confused:

You were the one posing similar links about Sweden.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35812482)

I think he's saying he doesn't understand that this thread is about the Asian sex gangs that keep showing up in court.

The "Asian" sex gangs pimped the victims around to others. Those others commit rape but are not part of the gang, but they ARE part of the criminal offences connected to the gangs. Without them what would the gangs do?

If when coming up with a ratio of offenders by group, one grouping has a disproportionate number of people who can't offend, then the ratio will be wrong. IE if a ratio of 8 to 1 is given and the 1 side of the equation has very young boys eg 5 year old, and very old eg 90 years old. then the proportion in that side is lower, making the real ratio for the 8x side much higher. Bit like trying to compare something linked to driving, when one side includes male and female drivers, but the other only includes male drivers.

Eg NB The actual numbers do not matter. 2,000 of a group of 1million, then a 8x ratio would give 800 for a population of 50,000. If then the group of 1 million should have half excluded to give comparable figures, then the ratio DOUBLES to 16x. 8x is scary enough, but potentially higher should be even scarier.

It cannot be denied that a disproportionate number of asylum seekers are not from the 5 year old or 90 year old sections. It may well be that they been already excluded when coming up with the 8x figure but I'm not aware of anything in either direction.

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I'm sure they've made a net contribution to our society though...

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Am I missing something or are we deporting him before he's finished his sentence?

Why aren't we going after the cash in his account?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...st-deportation

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Three brothers and two women have been found guilty of offences relating to the sexual abuse of teenage girls in Rotherham.

Arshid and Basharat Hussain were found guilty of multiple rapes and indecent assaults in the South Yorkshire town.

A third brother, Bannaras Hussain, 36, admitted 10 charges including rape, indecent assault and assault occasioning actual bodily harm at the beginning of the trial.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35651366

Is this still the tip of an iceberg I wonder...

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Nine men who committed sexual offences against eight girls and women have been jailed for up to 25 years.

The men abused their victims aged 13 to 22, mainly in Rochdale, Greater Manchester between 2005 and 2010.

The principal victim came forward after a number of men of mainly Pakistani heritage were jailed in 2012 for grooming white girls in the town.

A tenth man was jailed for five-and-a-half years last September for sexual activity with the girl.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-35982241

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So what's the running total of abusers? They all seem to be blending into one long blur of filth.....

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35831474)

So what's the running total of abusers? They all seem to be blending into one long blur of filth.....

The official figures will only include the convictions. The dozens not convicted but who are taking part in these sorts of activities are not.
EG.These will NOT be included.

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hundreds of men would ring her up wanting sex

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35831483)

The official figures will only include the convictions. The dozens not convicted but who are taking part in these sorts of activities are not.
EG.These will NOT be included.

Exactly, it seems like every witness says they were abused by a large number of Muslim men, as in this case often claims are abuse carried out by hundreds. Then if you think that each girl involved in the ring may not have been abused by the exact same men, multiply that by the number of gangs that have been convicted over the past 10 years......

As most of these men are of Pakistani heritage, I wonder what percentage of the UK Pakistani male population these hundreds possibly thousands involved will equate to when we get the final figures.

I very much doubt this will be the last Pakistani gang that end up in court.

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I think these vile creatures may decide that allowing these girls to walk away and spill the beans is no longer an option.

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Sooner or later someone or other is bound to start whining about the unfairness/racism inherent in our legal system citing the disproportionate representation of certain minorities in sex crimes of this nature.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35831510)

Then they should be given a good slap...