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Chad 10-02-2015 22:30
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So do SKY and BT have more or less top picks than they had last time? Really surprised by BT. Really thought they'd pull off a shock of sorts this time around. I can see both companies putting prices up I can see BT Sports getting real costly over the next 18 months.

spankysmagicpian 10-02-2015 22:50
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BT are foolish - if they are considering charging for the season 16/17 onwards with roughly the same number of games albeit with CL football too, I can't see people will be willing to shell out extra after subscribing to Sky.

They should have taken at least half the packages to level out the playing field between the two and this would have been the only way for prices to stay the same come the new season. It's going to cost them as although CL is a lot more glitzy, how many PL teams actually take part in it - 4 at the most. Compare this to the 20 actually in the league.

I can see Virgin will lose BT and we will have to pay come next season. BT Sports will still be free for BT BB subscribers (or a nominal fee) which could tempt people across.

pk1 10-02-2015 23:35
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I wonder how much sports subscribers are going to have to cough up now?

1andrew1 11-02-2015 00:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pk1 (Post 35758561)
I wonder how much sports subscribers are going to have to cough up now?
There won't suddenly be an uplift of £7 to Sky Sports or anything like that - the usual annual gradual price increases spread across other areas eg line rental will continue. There may also be some savings that Sky can make elsewhere as a result of the merger with the other Sky companies.

harry_hitch 11-02-2015 01:52
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What bugs me the most is the fact that Premiership Rugby may lose out on their TV fan base due to football now being shown on a Friday night. BT Scupper Sky by nabbing rugby rights on a Friday night, and all of a sudden Sky get rights to a newly created Friday night football service. Odd coincidence? I think not.

Sirius 11-02-2015 07:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35758459)
price rises assured now
And that will push a lot of sports fans in to the hands of the box sellers on ebay ;)

I know a person with one that pays £9.00 a month and gets more channels than i do paying VM top package :mad:

If my Sky sports goes up to much to pay for this then i will have to look at my options and see what works out best for me.

OLD BOY 11-02-2015 12:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35758559)
BT are foolish - if they are considering charging for the season 16/17 onwards with roughly the same number of games albeit with CL football too, I can't see people will be willing to shell out extra after subscribing to Sky.

They should have taken at least half the packages to level out the playing field between the two and this would have been the only way for prices to stay the same come the new season. It's going to cost them as although CL is a lot more glitzy, how many PL teams actually take part in it - 4 at the most. Compare this to the 20 actually in the league.

I can see Virgin will lose BT and we will have to pay come next season. BT Sports will still be free for BT BB subscribers (or a nominal fee) which could tempt people across.
It's not that simple though, spanky. BT might well draw in less revenue without the wholesale deal with VM if they force us to pay for it separately because most of us won't.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35758583)
And that will push a lot of sports fans in to the hands of the box sellers on ebay ;)

I know a person with one that pays £9.00 a month and gets more channels than i do paying VM top package :mad:

If my Sky sports goes up to much to pay for this then i will have to look at my options and see what works out best for me.
Yes, watching your fav teams down at the pub with Sky or BT looks like an option.

1andrew1 11-02-2015 13:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35758617)
It's not that simple though, spanky. BT might well draw in less revenue without the wholesale deal with VM if they force us to pay for it separately because most of us won't
Totally agree. BT's best bet would probably be a rise from £3.50pm to £4.50pm in the amount VM pays it for each XL customer to access BT Sport.

denphone 11-02-2015 13:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758645)
Totally agree. BT's best bet would probably be a rise from £3.50pm to £4.50pm in the amount VM pays it for each XL customer to access BT Sport.
Somehow l cannot see this scenario continuing Andrew.

Sirius 11-02-2015 14:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758645)
Totally agree. BT's best bet would probably be a rise from £3.50pm to £4.50pm in the amount VM pays it for each XL customer to access BT Sport.
I think they should make it so those who want BT sport pay and those that don’t do not. If i don’t watch BT sport why should i be made to pay for it by adding it to the price of the XL pack. When they added it the other year the xl pack increased to cover the addition of BT sport. The way they did it meant you don’t get a choice :mad:

1andrew1 11-02-2015 14:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758646)
Somehow l cannot see this scenario continuing Andrew.
Why not? There's no point BT trying to sell Champions League subs at a tenner a month as few people will buy them.

Sirius 11-02-2015 14:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758657)
Why not? There's no point BT trying to sell Champions League subs at a tenner a month as few people will buy them.
Its called choice. Why force people to pay for it who dont watch or want it. ?

1andrew1 11-02-2015 14:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35758656)
I think they should make it so those who want BT sport pay and those that dont do not. If i dont watch BT sport why should i be made to pay for it by adding it to the price of the XL pack. When they added it the other year the xl pack increased to cover the addition of BT sport. :mad:
The packs work on the basis that most people don't want all the channels. So no one with the XL pack pays the full price of £15pm for BT Sport. You pool your money for bulk-buying of channels and it's up to you to decide if you want to.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35758658)
Its called choice. Why force people to pay for it who dont watch or want it. ?
lol, no one is being forced to pay for pay TV. There's a whole range of packs and providers out there and Vodafone is entering the market this year as well. The business model around packs is about the benefit of bulk buying and supplying in scale. You lose the cost benefits when you don't do this. That being said, there are some good options out there now for people who want more control over what they get eg TalkTalk TV, Netflix, Now TV, BT Sport, VuTV, etc. But the whole point of packs is that there will always be something in that pack to make it worthwhile getting. It will never be the whole pack as everyone's tastes are different and you can only ever watch a fraction of what you subscribe to anyway.

Sirius 11-02-2015 14:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758659)
The packs work on the basis that most people don't want all the channels. So no one with the XL pack pays the full price of £15pm for BT Sport. You pool your money for bulk-buying of channels and it's up to you to decide if you want to.

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lol, no one is being forced to pay for pay TV.
My point is they added BT sport in to a base pack. They should have added it to the Sports pack. BT will increase there price and the price of the base pack will increase to cover it. If its a sports channel then the cost should be in the pack you take for "sports channels". Increase the cost to those who watch it not those who do not.

I dont see why i should have to pay just because some want a channel cheaper by lumping it in a mainstream pack.

I have already made my mind up that as soon as the super league season ends i will cancel my Sky sports and only take it back on when the super league starts again. Should save me a far bit. BTW thats what choice allows you :)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758659)

lol, no one is being forced to pay for pay TV.
I was commenting on BT sport being in the xl pack not pay tv as a whole

denphone 11-02-2015 14:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758657)
Why not? There's no point BT trying to sell Champions League subs at a tenner a month as few people will buy them.
But we don't actually know how many would buy a standalone package do we? even though many say they would not buy it.

1andrew1 11-02-2015 15:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35758662)
My point is they added BT sport in to a base pack. They should have added it to the Sports pack. BT will increase there price and the price of the base pack will increase to cover it. If its a sports channel then the cost should be in the pack you take for "sports channels". Increase the cost to those who watch it not those who do not.

I dont see why i should have to pay just because some want a channel cheaper by lumping it in a mainstream pack.

I have already made my mind up that as soon as the super league season ends i will cancel my Sky sports and only take it back on when the super league starts again. Should save me a far bit. BTW thats what choice allows you :)

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I was commenting on BT sport being in the xl pack not pay tv as a whole
The XL (extra large) pack is the top pack, not the base pack. I guess Virgin know that putting BT Sport in the package will make them more money than if it didn't. That's capitalism and other providers are available.
I think the real issue at the moment and BTW one which we may agree on is that a lot of non-TV items like line rental have been substantially increased to cover the cost of sports rights, so everyone is paying for it. The only way round this is to take broadband from someone like the Post Office or Primus but these companies don't offer a TV platform.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758669)
But we don't actually know how many would buy a standalone package do we? even though many say they would not buy it.
We don't know but the pay TV companies will as they spend a bomb on research.

johnathome 11-02-2015 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35758459)
price rises assured now
That's true but i'd imagine you'd be able to grab a cracking offer if you're out of contract.
Looking over on the MSE forums Sky seem to be throwing 50% discounts around with gay abandon.

Gotta keep that churn rate down so it doesn't spook the shareholders.

Chad 11-02-2015 21:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35758721)
That's true but i'd imagine you'd be able to grab a cracking offer if you're out of contract.
Looking over on the MSE forums Sky seem to be throwing 50% discounts around with gay abandon.

Gotta keep that churn rate down so it doesn't spook the shareholders.

I've had 50% off with SKY for the last 2 years. I cancelled my services on Monday due to my offer coming to an end. I was offered 60% off to stay for a further 12 months! Sky Sports costs me £10 per month. I've got everything including multi room, broadband etc... £59 per month. 3 years half price with them now. As you say 50% codes everywhere. They've got a 50% off offer for Virgin customers who switch to SKY.

It's all a game really. SKY have been really good in terms of retaining my custom. I don't care how or why they make these offers, all I know is I've saved a fortune. Anyone can get these deals.

Superblade7 12-02-2015 04:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35758762)
I've had 50% off with SKY for the last 2 years. I cancelled my services on Monday due to my offer coming to an end. I was offered 60% off to stay for a further 12 months! Sky Sports costs me £10 per month. I've got everything including multi room, broadband etc... £59 per month. 3 years half price with them now. As you say 50% codes everywhere. They've got a 50% off offer for Virgin customers who switch to SKY.

It's all a game really. SKY have been really good in terms of retaining my custom. I don't care how or why they make these offers, all I know is I've saved a fortune. Anyone can get these deals.
I'm definitely thinking of moving the TV to Sky once my contract is up as these 50% offers seem great like you say Chad. Its quoting £38.25 for full Sky TV pack with Sports and Movies in HD for 12 months which is fantastic considering it's £36.25 just for Sky Sports HD on VM. I'd obviously lose BT Sport by moving but I can't honestly say I'd miss it as I only ever watch the odd match on there.

Defo interesting times ahead for the pay TV sector especially with the bumper pay out for the Premier League rights and more people cord cutting and utilising streaming services.

carbon60 12-02-2015 10:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35758572)
What bugs me the most is the fact that Premiership Rugby may lose out on their TV fan base due to football now being shown on a Friday night. BT Scupper Sky by nabbing rugby rights on a Friday night, and all of a sudden Sky get rights to a newly created Friday night football service. Odd coincidence? I think not.
I wondered about the effect of Premier League matches on a Friday night too but in respect to the Football League matches that are shown on a Friday night. There's only 10 Friday night Premier League matches so some chance of coexistence.

OLD BOY 12-02-2015 12:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35758658)
Its called choice. Why force people to pay for it who dont watch or want it. ?
It's not about choice. It's about what makes financial sense for BT.

Why would they withdraw the wholesale deal when they would get less money coming in if people had to purchase it separately? Doesn't make business sense.

That doesn't mean I don't sympathise with your sentiments, Sirius!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758659)

[/COLOR]lol, no one is being forced to pay for pay TV. There's a whole range of packs and providers out there and Vodafone is entering the market this year as well. The business model around packs is about the benefit of bulk buying and supplying in scale. You lose the cost benefits when you don't do this. That being said, there are some good options out there now for people who want more control over what they get eg TalkTalk TV, Netflix, Now TV, BT Sport, VuTV, etc. But the whole point of packs is that there will always be something in that pack to make it worthwhile getting. It will never be the whole pack as everyone's tastes are different and you can only ever watch a fraction of what you subscribe to anyway.
Yes, Andrew, but we are forced to pay over the odds for the XL pack because of the BT channels which many do not want. We don't want to move to other providers.

The current system is not good for consumers and that's one of the reasons why I prefer the streaming choices that I have referred to in a separate thread on the future of linear TV.

Look at the huge choice you get on Netflix compared to the TV packs that we subscribe to through Virgin (and the same through Sky, etc). Not good value when you think about it, is it?

muppetman11 12-02-2015 12:45
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And yet you still pay :rolleyes:

Despite all the choices you tell us there are.

OLD BOY 12-02-2015 12:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35758837)
And yet you still pay :rolleyes:

Despite all the choices you tell us there are.
That's because we haven't got all the choices on streaming yet. That's the way of the future.

In my humble opinion, of course.

pengedragon 14-02-2015 21:00
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I'm hoping bt sport stays in xl next season, not likely maybe but I haven't given up hope. It carries my 2 favourite sports leagues in NBA and Serie a so I'd be looking to carry on with it somehow

I love my sport but to be honest the season ticket for sky sports is the only reason I have it this year, 15 quid a month and paying up front was a pretty decent deal I thought, if that's not repeated I won't be paying the standard monthly fee I'm afraid

tvtimes 15-02-2015 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35759357)
I'm hoping bt sport stays in xl next season, not likely maybe but I haven't given up hope. It carries my 2 favourite sports leagues in NBA and Serie a so I'd be looking to carry on with it somehow

I love my sport but to be honest the season ticket for sky sports is the only reason I have it this year, 15 quid a month and paying up front was a pretty decent deal I thought, if that's not repeated I won't be paying the standard monthly fee I'm afraid
There's always a chance, but it will likely come at a higher price to Virgin and ultimately to us the consumers.
When Virgin secured BT sport as part of the XL pack, BT sport wasn't a tried and tested business model. BT had no idea what sort of viewership they were going to get, they had no idea how many people would take their broadband etc, stuff they all know now, so they may decide they don't need Virgin, but I think the likelihood is they will allow Virgin to keep it, but will want more money. Which is fair enough really when we consider how much stronger BT sport has become.

telegramsam 15-02-2015 13:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35759357)
I'm hoping bt sport stays in xl next season, not likely maybe but I haven't given up hope. It carries my 2 favourite sports leagues in NBA and Serie a so I'd be looking to carry on with it somehow

I love my sport but to be honest the season ticket for sky sports is the only reason I have it this year, 15 quid a month and paying up front was a pretty decent deal I thought, if that's not repeated I won't be paying the standard monthly fee I'm afraid
Agree with you regarding hoping BT Sport staying in the XL pack. If they becomes stand alone channels then then I too would have to dump BT Sports.
Couldn`t take advantage of the Sky Sports season ticket due to lack of funds but hopefully if they repeat the offer again next season I`l be able to afford it.

tvtimes 15-02-2015 14:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35759449)
Agree with you regarding hoping BT Sport staying in the XL pack. If they becomes stand alone channels then then I too would have to dump BT Sports.
Couldn`t take advantage of the Sky Sports season ticket due to lack of funds but hopefully if they repeat the offer again next season I`l be able to afford it.
Anyone have an idea of the subscriber base of the XL pack before and after the deal with BT sports? That would be very telling whether Virgin continue to offer it or not I would think.

If Virgin didn't do a deal with BT to keep BT sports then this would be the first time the Premier league hasn't been available with the XL pack for a number of years and we could well see a decline in XL pack customers.

denphone 15-02-2015 14:45
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Well if BT Sports does exit the XL pack then Virgin will have to have something up their sleeves to replace it and perhaps having Netflix or something similar might just be their answer to that possible scenario.

telegramsam 15-02-2015 15:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35759469)
Anyone have an idea of the subscriber base of the XL pack before and after the deal with BT sports? That would be very telling whether Virgin continue to offer it or not I would think.

If Virgin didn't do a deal with BT to keep BT sports then this would be the first time the Premier league hasn't been available with the XL pack for a number of years and we could well see a decline in XL pack customers.
I only subsribe to the XL package because BT Sports channela are included. I would downgrade if they leave as I personally can`t see anything good enough to make me stay,not even Netflix which I found to be rubbish when I had it free for 6 months.

denphone 15-02-2015 17:01
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Sky Sports customers set be hit with hefty price rises in the next few years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...ague-deal.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...e-auction.html

Dave42 15-02-2015 17:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35759504)
Sky Sports customers set be hit with hefty price rises in the next few years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...ague-deal.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...e-auction.html
we all knew it was going up

tvtimes 15-02-2015 17:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35759504)
Sky Sports customers set be hit with hefty price rises in the next few years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...ague-deal.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...e-auction.html
Thank you for the links.

Quote:
Since the last auction, Sky has worked hard to reduce its reliance on the Premier League to draw big-spending subscribers, with heavy backing for exclusive dramas such as Game of Thrones and investment in new technology-driven products. Its internet-based services Now TV, Sky Store and Sky Go are the engines of growth and it has repeatedly highlighted the success and opportunities beyond football.
Does he really believe in what he's saying? If Sky has reduced its reliance on the Premier league, then why bid so ridiculously high to make sure they retained it?

Quote:
Sky has sought to reassure shareholders by revealing that it already had plans “in our back pocket” to cover the extra Premier League cost by cutting costs in its network and by using online chat software for more customer service in its UK business.
What network? I'm confused! So there is going to be job losses, great for the economy!

Quote:
“It’s just way too early to say,” says Darroch. “We’re 18 months away from the new contract. We’re looking across the whole range of what we do. We’re treating all customers fairly. Whether you’re a sport customer, a basic customer or a movies customer we’re putting more value into your package.”
I don't call charging all customers across the board regardless of whether they're sports fans or not for their ridiculous over spending is fair at all.

All sounds like typical Sky bs to me.

denphone 15-02-2015 17:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35759507)
we all knew it was going up
Indeed it is going up and by a fair bit in these coming years and then there could be more on top for BT Sports customers as well.

muppetman11 15-02-2015 18:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35759509)
What network? I'm confused! So there is going to be job losses, great for the economy!
Broadcast !!!!

Most of Sky's software releases introduce cost savings , examples of late are Sky Store resulting in the reduction of Sky Box Office capacity , better efficiencies in satellite broadcasting freeing up space , card pairing done by the box saving calls to customer services something that represented an extremely high percentage of the calls received.

I'm sure I read somewhere that moving to the cloud will also represent increased savings for Sky with a goal of moving to STB's without HDD's which are both cheaper to produce and less problematic in the field resulting in fewer engineer visits.

Of course I agree the customers will see price rises owing to these exuberant amounts paid and as you say its unfair on those who have little to no interest in EPL Football.

vincerooney 15-02-2015 18:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35759510)
Indeed it is going up and by a fair bit in these coming years and then there could be more on top for BT Sports customers as well.
Aye it's going to be ridiculous. Hopefully one more season with only a small rise before it goes to hell in 16/17

denphone 15-02-2015 18:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35759522)
Aye it's going to be ridiculous. Hopefully one more season with only a small rise before it goes to hell in 16/17
You would hope so Vince but don't bet on it.

Sirius 15-02-2015 18:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35759504)
Sky Sports customers set be hit with hefty price rises in the next few years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...ague-deal.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...e-auction.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35759507)
we all knew it was going up
And that's why i have already researched my alternatives and how much it will cost me to have the kit installed

Quote:
Analysts reckon Sky customers would have to pay £10 per month extra if the full cost of the new Premier League deal was passed on
Industry experts do not expect the price hike to be so extreme
An initial rise of around £4 per month is expected
£4.00 a month extra for Sky sports is a bit to much for me. I can drop sky sports completely and cover my alternative for far less. ;)

muppetman11 15-02-2015 18:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35759527)
And that's why i have already researched my alternatives and how much it will cost me to have the kit installed

£4.00 a month for Sky sports is a bit to much for me. I can drop sky sports completely and cover my alternative for far less. ;)
Totally agree , I'm already on a discounted package , at the time of renewal I'll be seeking another if not I guess the cord will be cut.:D

Superblade7 15-02-2015 19:02
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If it goes up by £4 on VM, Sky Sports in HD will be £40 a month on its own! :wtf:

Think that really will be a step too far for many a sports fan!

Mad Max 15-02-2015 19:19
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They can shove a sports price increase right up their chocolate starfish!

tvtimes 15-02-2015 19:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35759516)
Broadcast !!!!

Most of Sky's software releases introduce cost savings , examples of late are Sky Store resulting in the reduction of Sky Box Office capacity , better efficiencies in satellite broadcasting freeing up space , card pairing done by the box saving calls to customer services something that represented an extremely high percentage of the calls received.

I'm sure I read somewhere that moving to the cloud will also represent increased savings for Sky with a goal of moving to STB's without HDD's which are both cheaper to produce and less problematic in the field resulting in fewer engineer visits.
That was a genuine question by the way, so thanks for clearing that up :)

1andrew1 16-02-2015 21:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35759524)
You would hope so Vince but don't bet on it.
Sky knew this was a possible scenario and have steadily been rising their prices over the last few years. There won't be a sudden chunky price rise out of the blue, just the usual increases from all providers across all services every year.
The news that the Champions League will be charged separately by BT Sport raises the chances of BT Sport remaining in the XL pack for a bit longer.

denphone 16-02-2015 21:18
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Personally l think Sky will up the sports prices by £3 to £4 each year in the next 4 years and that for some will still be the straw that breaks the camels back Andrew and if then there is still a strong possibility that Virgin customers will have to fork out even more for BT's Champions League football as well.

1andrew1 16-02-2015 21:31
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I can't see Sky Sports going up that much directly because too many people would cancel so the result would be less money than lower increases.
Champions League remains a bit of a mystery to me - BT says it will charge more for it but I can't see people rushing to subscribe to it. Maybe BT will sell it with BT's HD fee and its proposed 4K service for an extra say £6pm. Don't know how that would impact VM customers though.

tvtimes 17-02-2015 10:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35759751)
I can't see Sky Sports going up that much directly because too many people would cancel so the result would be less money than lower increases.
Champions League remains a bit of a mystery to me - BT says it will charge more for it but I can't see people rushing to subscribe to it. Maybe BT will sell it with BT's HD fee and its proposed 4K service for an extra say £6pm. Don't know how that would impact VM customers though.
Or maybe to push YV?

1andrew1 17-02-2015 11:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35759805)
Or maybe to push YV?
Maybe but that would be a change of direction as BT has focused on broadband but not TV subscriptions.

Sirius 17-02-2015 12:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35759740)
Sky knew this was a possible scenario and have steadily been rising their prices over the last few years. There won't be a sudden chunky price rise out of the blue, just the usual increases from all providers across all services every year.
The news that the Champions League will be charged separately by BT Sport raises the chances of BT Sport remaining in the XL pack for a bit longer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35759748)
Personally l think Sky will up the sports prices by £3 to £4 each year in the next 4 years and that for some will still be the straw that breaks the camels back Andrew and if then there is still a strong possibility that Virgin customers will have to fork out even more for BT's Champions League football as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35759534)
They can shove a sports price increase right up their chocolate starfish!
I dont care any more they can put the price up to what ever they want, i know the direction i am going in. ;) :D

muppetman11 19-02-2015 17:04
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Sky Sports has agreed a further one-season extension to its broadcast deal with the Football League.

Link

denphone 19-02-2015 17:28
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Yes it was inevitable that they were going to take up that extension MM.

RichardCoulter 21-02-2015 16:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35758547)
Yip, get rid of all silly football rights and go back to the days of the videprinter(sp?) on Grandstand ;)
Wasn't it called the Teleprinter??

Premier Sports ceased BARB reporting from 15 February just gone. One must assume that they do not feel it to be worth the fee in relation to the advertising that they get.

smallclone 23-02-2015 11:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35759808)
I dont care any more they can put the price up to what ever they want, i know the direction i am going in. ;) :D
:clap:

I decided it 2 months ago. There's always a line there to cross, and the price point was too much for me after being a loyal sky sports customer for about 15 years.

cityfan247 23-02-2015 19:19
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The cost of Sports (and by that i mean football) is reaching the point where more and more fans are going to say no.

It has reached that point for me. Potentially £40 pm for just Sky Sports in HD on VM- no way. If BT decide to hike their prices or take it out of the XL pack they arent going to get my custom either. Same for Premier Sports. What would the cost of all sports be £70pm + ?? -its a joke.

Enough is enough. I am not going to help subsidise players wages who earn more in a month that i will probably earn in a lifetime. Quite frankly it is obscene.

Increased prices will merely make more look for cheaper and possibly not so legal ways to watch.

andy_m 23-02-2015 20:40
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Why would their first port of call be a less legal option, and not an attempt at negotiating with their provider?

muppetman11 25-02-2015 11:46
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Sky Sports has won the rights to broadcast exclusively live Major League Soccer (MLS) from the US for the first time.

Link

muppetman11 25-02-2015 15:02
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BT Sport extends Serie A rights deal

Link

telegramsam 25-02-2015 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761452)
BT Sport extends Serie A rights deal

Link
Pleased about this as I enjoy watching Italian football.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761415)
Sky Sports has won the rights to broadcast exclusively live Major League Soccer (MLS) from the US for the first time.

Link
Not so fussed about this but may tune in now and again for the bigger games

muppetman11 25-02-2015 16:20
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Personally I have little to no interest in either but thought it worth posting.

alwaysabear 25-02-2015 18:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761468)
Personally I have little to no interest in either but thought it worth posting.
Same here the only European league I have the slightest interest in is La Liga and that's mainly for the Madrid derby and el classico.

denphone 25-02-2015 18:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35761498)
Same here the only European league I have the slightest interest in is La Liga and that's mainly for the Madrid derby and el classico.
Nevertheless there are still quite a few who prefer the foreign football compared to the overpaid ballerina's of the Premiership.

pengedragon 26-02-2015 08:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761452)
BT Sport extends Serie A rights deal

Link
Delighted with this, given the NBA deal too I'm a happy sports fan. Keep it in xl next year and I'm a very happy sports fan :D

denphone 26-02-2015 08:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35761589)
Delighted with this, given the NBA deal too I'm a happy sports fan. Keep it in xl next year and I'm a very happy sports fan :D
Yes it would be lovely if everything is kept on the XL pack but personally l have my doubts.

vincerooney 26-02-2015 11:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35761595)
Yes it would be lovely if everything is kept on the XL pack but personally l have my doubts.
I think we have one more year in XL and then we are all screwed? Wasn't it a 3 year contract?

Anypermitedroute 26-02-2015 11:51
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unless they create/bought another channel....

richard1960 27-02-2015 21:45
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VM appear to be doing a deal on Sky Sports Collection i recently got a deal the Sky Sports collection for £19 a month on a 12 month deal at that price.

You can cancel at anytime but once you do cannot go back on that deal.:)

pengedragon 28-02-2015 11:14
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I've been wondering if they'll do anything re sky sports when the season ticket offer ends, maybe that's it

vincerooney 28-02-2015 11:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard1960 (Post 35761931)
VM appear to be doing a deal on Sky Sports Collection i recently got a deal the Sky Sports collection for £19 a month on a 12 month deal at that price.

You can cancel at anytime but once you do cannot go back on that deal.:)
just new customers?? i'm paying 25 odd quid...

muppetman11 28-02-2015 12:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35761978)
just new customers?? i'm paying 25 odd quid...
I'd suggest the offer is being targeted at non Sky Sports subscribers , give them a ring and mention it you never know.

richard1960 28-02-2015 17:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35761978)
just new customers?? i'm paying 25 odd quid...
Yes i beleive it is as its a rolling 12 month contract that is cancellable after the first month.

But its worth trying who knows they may let you have it.:)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761992)
I'd suggest the offer is being targeted at non Sky Sports subscribers , give them a ring and mention it you never know.
Yes i think it is i gave up sky sports on VM when it reached £27 odd ££££s

Now i think its £29 odd pound's which is ridiculous for a bit of sport £ 19 a month however is more like it.:)

johnathome 28-02-2015 23:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35761978)
just new customers?? i'm paying 25 odd quid...
They saw you coming.

Loyal customers get fleeced, end of.

pengedragon 01-03-2015 17:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35761621)
I think we have one more year in XL and then we are all screwed? Wasn't it a 3 year contract?
It was a 3 year contract for bt sport to be carried on virgin media, I'm unsure if it was a 3 year contract to be in xl, been looking at the old press releases and it's not really conclusive either way

andy_m 01-03-2015 19:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35762137)
They saw you coming.

Loyal customers get fleeced, end of.
Ask, and you shall receive.

cityfan247 03-03-2015 20:56
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I also got the offer of Sky Sports for £19pm for 12 months today.

Prior to that i had the half price Sky Sports for 3 months that ran out last month and i cancelled it.

At almost £30pm Sky Sports is simply overpriced and more than i am willing to pay.£19pm is a fairer price and i am happy to sign up to it.

With Sky losing the Champions League deal from next season it will be interesting to see what it adds to maintain its perceived value to customers or if it considers dropping its price (unlikely of course). I would imagine it could lose some subscribers if it doesnt do anything.

Chad 03-03-2015 22:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cityfan247 (Post 35762823)
With Sky losing the Champions League deal from next season it will be interesting to see what it adds to maintain its perceived value to customers or if it considers dropping its price (unlikely of course). I would imagine it could lose some subscribers if it doesnt do anything.
They've already been working on securing new and improved rights deals, over the past 12 months, adding new content to their portfolio of sports.

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...-with-mls-deal

"Sky Sports secured 25 new rights agreements in 2014, and that has continued this year with recent deals for international and domestic cricket with the ECB and exclusively live coverage of the Open Championship from 2017, as well as even more Premier League football from 2016."

I can't see SKY dropping their price once the Champions League goes based on this article in the Daily Mirror:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...k-bank-5109653

"Sky boss Jeremy Darroch yesterday suggested it was less reliant on the Premier League than before.

He said: “We like the Premier League. But the whole point of the business is about broadening the offer.”

That means a wider range of sports, including snatching golf’s Open Championships from the BBC, plus more of its own entertainment programmes."

Dave42 03-03-2015 22:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35762835)
They've already been working on securing new and improved rights deals, over the past 12 months, adding new content to their portfolio of sports.

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...-with-mls-deal

"Sky Sports secured 25 new rights agreements in 2014, and that has continued this year with recent deals for international and domestic cricket with the ECB and exclusively live coverage of the Open Championship from 2017, as well as even more Premier League football from 2016."

I can't see SKY dropping their price once the Champions League goes based on this article in the Daily Mirror:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...k-bank-5109653

"Sky boss Jeremy Darroch yesterday suggested it was less reliant on the Premier League than before.

He said: “We like the Premier League. But the whole point of the business is about broadening the offer.”

That means a wider range of sports, including snatching golf’s Open Championships from the BBC, plus more of its own entertainment programmes."
yes that's why they paid over double than last time and they know if they lost premier league they lose so many customers what a liar

denphone 04-03-2015 05:12
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There is only one way their prices will go and that is up and up sadly.

1andrew1 04-03-2015 11:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35762836)
yes that's why they paid over double than last time and they know if they lost premier league they lose so many customers what a liar
File Sky's comments in the "They would say that, wouldn't they!" folder.

Mad Max 04-03-2015 13:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35762846)
There is only one way their prices will go and that is up and up sadly.

You make a lot of very profound posts Den......;):D

denphone 04-03-2015 13:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35762892)
You make a lot of very profound posts Den......;):D
Old Muppetman taught his pupils well.;):D

muppetman11 12-03-2015 21:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35762846)
There is only one way their prices will go and that is up and up sadly.
Apparently Den Sky are increasing its TV prices in June of this year it was only 9 months ago they increased them.

Total farce , I certainly will not be paying a penny more if retentions can't offer me anything its bye bye pay TV for good , there all as bad.

alwaysabear 12-03-2015 21:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764343)
Apparently Den Sky are increasing its TV prices in June of this year it was only 9 months ago they increased them.

Total farce , I certainly will not be paying a penny more if retentions can't offer me anything its bye bye pay TV for good , there all as bad.
Got any figures MM? my mum is with Sky.

muppetman11 12-03-2015 21:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35764345)
Got any figures MM? my mum is with Sky.
Not been released however I've seen it on DS forums and noticed on the Sky website that they'll increase in June.

Both Sky and VM are getting way too expensive in my opinion.

Dave42 12-03-2015 21:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764347)
Not been released however I've seen it on DS forums and noticed on the Sky website that they'll increase in June.

Both Sky and VM are getting way too expensive in my opinion.
absolutely correct

Chad 12-03-2015 22:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764347)
Not been released however I've seen it on DS forums and noticed on the Sky website that they'll increase in June.

Both Sky and VM are getting way too expensive in my opinion.
Got to agree. I only have SKY due to a good retention deal last month when my contract expired. We where fully prepared to jack it in last month and go with a combination of Freeview, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and NOW TV as an alternative. We're lucky to have all 3 apps built into our Smart TV.

You can get all 3 services for less than £17 per month if you shop around. £5.99 for Netflix, £5.99 for Amazon and NOW TV for as little as £5.00 per month if you buy their 5 month pass from Argos for £25.00.

What I like is the idea of being able to effectively eliminate your monthly TV bill entirely, if you can afford a 1 off splurge. A one off £79.00 payment gives you Amazon Instant video for a full 12 months plus a years worth of NOW TV passes can be picked up for £60.00. That's £139.00 up front for 12 months of great TV, subscription free!

I know I'm beginning to sound like Money Super Market but it's worth people considering, especially if conventional TV is becoming too expensive.

muppetman11 12-03-2015 22:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35764356)
Got to agree. I only have SKY due to a good retention deal last month when my contract expired. We where fully prepared to jack it in last month and go with a combination of Freeview, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and NOW TV as an alternative. We're lucky to have all 3 apps built into our Smart TV.

You can get all 3 services for less than £17 per month if you shop around. £5.99 for Netflix, £5.99 for Amazon and NOW TV for as little as £5.00 per month if you buy their 5 month pass from Argos for £25.00.

What I like is the idea of being able to effectively eliminate your monthly TV bill entirely, if you can afford a 1 off splurge. A one off £79.00 payment gives you Amazon Instant video for a full 12 months plus a years worth of NOW TV passes can be picked up for £60.00. That's £139.00 up front for 12 months of great TV, subscription free!

I know I'm beginning to sound like Money Super Market but it's worth people considering, especially if conventional TV is becoming too expensive.
I will be doing exactly the same if I get no joy later in the year with retentions , I can't be bothered with changing VM's 18 month contracts are a put off whilst you may get a heavy discount they make it all back in the latter parts of the contract.

As you say streaming and Freeview looks the way to go.

harry_hitch 12-03-2015 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35764356)
Got to agree. I only have SKY due to a good retention deal last month when my contract expired. We where fully prepared to jack it in last month and go with a combination of Freeview, Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and NOW TV as an alternative. We're lucky to have all 3 apps built into our Smart TV.

You can get all 3 services for less than £17 per month if you shop around. £5.99 for Netflix, £5.99 for Amazon and NOW TV for as little as £5.00 per month if you buy their 5 month pass from Argos for £25.00.

What I like is the idea of being able to effectively eliminate your monthly TV bill entirely, if you can afford a 1 off splurge. A one off £79.00 payment gives you Amazon Instant video for a full 12 months plus a years worth of NOW TV passes can be picked up for £60.00. That's £139.00 up front for 12 months of great TV, subscription free!

I know I'm beginning to sound like Money Super Market but it's worth people considering, especially if conventional TV is becoming too expensive.
Correct if I am wrong Chad, but don't you still have to pay for a number of shows on Amazon, even if you are a prime member? Surely that is going to hike your monthly costs up.

I would, primarily, like to watch Spiral from the beginning and Braquo from season 2, but if I understand how Amazon works correctly, I would have to pay a small fortune just to catch up with those shows alone.

I really hope you prove me wrong as I am very fortunate to have a very decent deal with VM, and an Amazon video account would be most welcome alongside netflix and my current deal.

Chad 12-03-2015 22:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35764365)
Correct if I am wrong Chad, but don't you still have to pay for a number of shows on Amazon, even if you are a prime member? Surely that is going to hike your monthly costs up.

I would, primarily, like to watch Spiral from the beginning and Braquo from season 2, but if I understand how Amazon works correctly, I would have to pay a small fortune just to catch up with those shows alone.

I really hope you prove me wrong as I am very fortunate to have a very decent deal with VM, and an Amazon video account would be most welcome alongside netflix and my current deal.
The Amazon service provides 2 viewing methods rolled into 1 service. For your £5.99 per month you get access to a large selection of movies and TV content such as Vikings, Turn, Black Sails, The Borgia, Extant etc... It's a solid collection of TV and film, which I personally prefer to Netflix.

They also offer over the top content such as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Banshee and the latest movies but it'll cost you £1.89 per episode or £4.49 per movie. Personally I don't go anywhere near this part of the service and deliberately set a random pin number, which I can't remember, stopping me from ever using the service.

If Netflix and Blinkbox had a baby, it would be Amazon Instant video :D

30 free day trial might be worth trying:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/pri...%7C%7Ckword%7C

passingbat 12-03-2015 23:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35764365)

I would, primarily, like to watch Spiral from the beginning and Braquo from season 2, .

Netflix UK have one season each of the above. They are also available via other Netflix regions, which may have more seasons
.

denphone 13-03-2015 05:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764343)
Apparently Den Sky are increasing its TV prices in June of this year it was only 9 months ago they increased them.

Total farce , I certainly will not be paying a penny more if retentions can't offer me anything its bye bye pay TV for good , there all as bad.
l think a lot of people once their contracts end will be bartering for a better deal from their providers MM and if they don't get them then both of them will lose quite a few customers in my opinion.

Sirius 13-03-2015 06:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35764387)
l think a lot of people once their contracts end will be bartering for a better deal from their providers MM and if they don't get them then both of them will lose quite a few customers in my opinion.
I will not be negotiating anything, i have a plan and will be putting it in to place as soon as there announcement is made on price increases. i will not be paying there increase its as simple as that.

denphone 13-03-2015 07:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35764391)
I will not be negotiating anything, i have a plan and will be putting it in to place as soon as there announcement is made on price increases. i will not be paying there increase its as simple as that.
:)

johnathome 13-03-2015 10:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35764391)
I will not be negotiating anything, i have a plan and will be putting it in to place as soon as there announcement is made on price increases. i will not be paying there increase its as simple as that.
Is that the same plan as me? Pretty much what Chad described above and supplemented with some nefarious streams from 'elsewhere'.

Freeview ain't that bad TBH, Horror Channel starts today, although there's still too much shopping and pr0n on there.

harry_hitch 13-03-2015 11:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35764372)
Netflix UK have one season each of the above. They are also available via other Netflix regions, which may have more seasons
.
Cheers PB. Annoyingly, Netflix only have series 4 of Spirial (there are 5) and the first for Braquo. I have not checked any of the other Netflix regions yet. I probably should, it might help me finally make a decision on joining them. :).

---------- Post added at 10:48 ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35764366)
The Amazon service provides 2 viewing methods rolled into 1 service. For your £5.99 per month you get access to a large selection of movies and TV content such as Vikings, Turn, Black Sails, The Borgia, Extant etc... It's a solid collection of TV and film, which I personally prefer to Netflix.

They also offer over the top content such as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, Banshee and the latest movies but it'll cost you £1.89 per episode or £4.49 per movie. Personally I don't go anywhere near this part of the service and deliberately set a random pin number, which I can't remember, stopping me from ever using the service.

If Netflix and Blinkbox had a baby, it would be Amazon Instant video :D

30 free day trial might be worth trying:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/pri...%7C%7Ckword%7C
The trouble is Chad, all the TV stuff I want to watch is pretty much chargable. There is a great deal of choice on there, but the for me, the free film choices are not the greatest and the ones I would choose to watch are the chargable ones.

Pure profiteering on their part, as I pointed out to them in the e-mail I sent them.

---------- Post added at 11:03 ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35764387)
l think a lot of people once their contracts end will be bartering for a better deal from their providers MM and if they don't get them then both of them will lose quite a few customers in my opinion.
Yup, I think all TV companies will continue to fleece the people who let apathy stop them getting a better deal. My TV deal is up in May, and I will be getting a better deal from VM or I will pester my new landlord for a Sky dish and get a decent deal from them!

In fairness to OB, it will be interesting to see what Sky, VM, et al all do to counter act the rise of the streaming services. I imagine they will fight for a lot more boxsets and bundle them "free" with the packages. I am happy to be thought an idiot, but I would have thought Sky could quite easily get first refusal/exclusivity from Fox for their boxsets if things ever got that bad. Also, if they have helped fund other channels in the past, surely they will be put immense pressure on those companies for boxsets.

Sky, VM et al will not be going away for many a long year in my eyes.

OLD BOY 13-03-2015 12:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35764418)

In fairness to OB, it will be interesting to see what Sky, VM, et al all do to counter act the rise of the streaming services. I imagine they will fight for a lot more boxsets and bundle them "free" with the packages. I am happy to be thought an idiot, but I would have thought Sky could quite easily get first refusal/exclusivity from Fox for their boxsets if things ever got that bad. Also, if they have helped fund other channels in the past, surely they will be put immense pressure on those companies for boxsets.

Sky, VM et al will not be going away for many a long year in my eyes.
When you compare the likes of Netflix to the likes of Sky, I find much more choice on Netflix and it is far, far cheaper. I'm currently watching Damages, Lilyhammer, Orange is the New Black and House of Cards on Netflix, with a good range of films and TV series lined up to watch when I can fit them in. All for £5.99 per month. Bargain in my opinion.

Unless it comes to VM in the next couple of months, I will get a Fire TV box and subscribe to Amazon also, which must at least double the choice, and maybe more.

The pay per view stuff on Amazon is not part of the subscription simply because they cost more for the rights, presumably. However, it is an expensive way to watch and it would be better if they had a second tier subscription level that would make these 'free' to watch.

As far as VM are concerned, I think they would be doing their viewers a service by giving them as much choice away from Sky as it is possible to do, because Sky is not good value in my opinion. I think they have similar ideas, which is why I do expect more streaming services to be arriving on the TIVO in the near future.

I am ditching Sky Sports when the price rise is announced.

muppetman11 13-03-2015 12:49
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Whilst I agree Sky and VM are becoming too expensive I still think Sky offer some good content across its channels however the problem is this can now all be accessed for £6.99 a month making the family bundle at £30 plus look massively overpriced.

OLD BOY 13-03-2015 12:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764450)
Whilst I agree Sky and VM are becoming too expensive I still think Sky offer some good content across its channels however the problem is this can now all be accessed for £6.99 a month making the family bundle at £30 plus look massively overpriced.
If you count the programmes of interest amongst the Sky channels with those that appeal to you on terrestrial or Netflix, I think you will be startled by the results.

However, when it comes to sports, as Sky have the lion's share of that, I agree there is little competition.

muppetman11 13-03-2015 12:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35764451)
If you count the programmes of interest amongst the Sky channels with those that appeal to you on terrestrial or Netflix, I think you will be startled by the results.

However, when it comes to sports, as Sky have the lion's share of that, I agree there is little competition.
I'm well aware what we watch and record , we watch very little off terrestrial mainly key dramas , we do watch quite a few things on Netflix but thats easily matched by what we watch on Sky Atlantic.

passingbat 13-03-2015 13:25
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764450)
Whilst I agree Sky and VM are becoming too expensive I still think Sky offer some good content across its channels however the problem is this can now all be accessed for £6.99 a month making the family bundle at £30 plus look massively overpriced.
It can't all be accessed for £6.99 p/m. There are some reasonably prominent pay channels missing from the Now TV entertainment pack; Alibi, Watch and Universal being a few examples.

OLD BOY 13-03-2015 13:28
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35764452)
I'm well aware what we watch and record , we watch very little off terrestrial mainly key dramas , we do watch quite a few things on Netflix but thats easily matched by what we watch on Sky Atlantic.
OK.

I'm a bit surprised by that, but OK.

muppetman11 13-03-2015 13:40
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35764454)
It can't all be accessed for £6.99 p/m. There are some reasonably prominent pay channels missing from the Now TV entertainment pack; Alibi, Watch and Universal being a few examples.
I was referring to the Sky branded channels as that's what OB was mentioning.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35764455)
OK.

I'm a bit surprised by that, but OK.
I guess we all have different viewing tastes , the BBC has very little we watch in our house , probably the most watched was the kids with Cbeebies years back.:D

harry_hitch 13-03-2015 14:03
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When you compare the likes of Netflix to the likes of Sky, I find much more choice on Netflix and it is far, far cheaper. I'm currently watching Damages, Lilyhammer, Orange is the New Black and House of Cards on Netflix, with a good range of films and TV series lined up to watch when I can fit them in. All for £5.99 per month. Bargain in my opinion.

Unless it comes to VM in the next couple of months, I will get a Fire TV box and subscribe to Amazon also, which must at least double the choice, and maybe more.

The pay per view stuff on Amazon is not part of the subscription simply because they cost more for the rights, presumably. However, it is an expensive way to watch and it would be better if they had a second tier subscription level that would make these 'free' to watch.

As far as VM are concerned, I think they would be doing their viewers a service by giving them as much choice away from Sky as it is possible to do, because Sky is not good value in my opinion. I think they have similar ideas, which is why I do expect more streaming services to be arriving on the TIVO in the near future.

I am ditching Sky Sports when the price rise is announced.
Yup, Netflix is good value, I don't recall saying it wasn't.:rolleyes:.

Yeah, I guess Amazon pay more for the rights to those shows, so charge why not charge £6.99/£7.99/£8.99 a month instead? They don't need to charge me £20 to watch a season of Braquo, I will go buy the bluray/dvd and get the extras thanks. They don't need to offer an ad funded cheaper service either, they just need to offer their service at a fair and reasonable price. It drives me mad. They are blatantly ripping off customers and are no better than Sky Sports or Sky Movies in that respect.:mad::td:.

I understand they need to charge for the HBO shows, though. Sky and HBO have ruined that avenue of legally watching that content without it costing a fortune. Unless you have Sky obviously.:)

I would happily pay £7.99 a month for all their content, but instead they get nothing from me. That being said, I agree VM would do well to get the app on TIVO and their customers that option.

You could probably buy a Bluray player for less than fire TV, with amazon prime and hundreds of other apps too. My Samsung bluray player has more apps than I know what to do with.:)


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