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Carth 26-11-2021 17:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
The thing is, they're asking us to look at it in 'binary'.

Am I at risk?
Am I putting others at risk?

The answer 'maybe' isn't the one they - the Gov & experts - want

Hugh 26-11-2021 17:48

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36102756)
The thing is, they're asking us to look at it in 'binary'.

Am I at risk?
Am I putting others at risk?

The answer 'maybe' isn't the one they - the Gov & experts - want

But they’re not saying that - they’re saying "here’s how you can reduce the risk to yourself and others by using a number of different approaches, each of which reduces risk, but used together reduce the risk even more".

jfman 26-11-2021 17:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102761)
But they’re not saying that - they’re saying "here’s how you can reduce the risk to yourself and others by using a number of different approaches, each of which reduces risk, but used together reduce the risk even more".

Sounds like socialism, mate.

Hugh 26-11-2021 19:52

Re: Coronavirus
 
Wonder how many South Africans travelled over to watch the Rugby at Twickenham last weekend?

papa smurf 26-11-2021 20:49

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102783)
Wonder how many South Africans travelled over to watch the Rugby at Twickenham last weekend?

just enough to start the next overreaction

OLD BOY 27-11-2021 00:03

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102546)
Will it stop me from getting catching it? It will greatly reduce the chances of you catching it.
Will it stop me from passing it on? It will greatly reduce the likelihood of you passing it on.
So you should still still wear masks to reduce the chances of infecting others.

What a load of crap!

Well, if you want to believe that, fair dos.

Me? I’m laughing, but don’t mind me.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36102558)
We do expect car drivers to behave responsibly and not put others at risk.

Yes, don’t just mow them down….:mad:

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36102561)
Such an idiotic point. But I’ll try and lay it out for you because I know weren’t trying to be a tool for for the sake of it.

If the car drivers ( the vaccinated) do as they should and stay on the road.

Why are they responsible for the idiots ( unvaccinated) that run out in front of them?

The car drivers are following the rules and behaving responsibly by staying on the road.

Quite right!

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36102588)

We’ve got MPs getting murdered and terrorists blowing themselves in hospital car parks yet we don’t bow to extremist or criminal sentiment or their “values”.

Topic?

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36102620)
As opposed to who? People denying reality?

What is your reality, jfman?

---------- Post added 27-11-2021 at 00:03 ---------- Previous post was 26-11-2021 at 23:59 ----------

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36102722)
At a population level a binary risk assessment on this manner is absolutely meaningless.

Such simplistic analysis unhelpful in a pandemic - the clue is in the name “pan”.

Shortly the mass infection is good idea will be in if/when the nu variant emerges here. Which leaves us dealing with the same old questions all over again. But hey ho, Britain can continue to be exceptional in respect of deaths as it erodes all kinds of immunity.

Yes, the same question - do lockdowns really work?

Of course not - they just delay the spread. By the way, the virus is called Omicron’. Do keep up!

Hugh 27-11-2021 00:09

Re: Coronavirus
 
The variant is omicron, the virus is COVID-19.

1andrew1 27-11-2021 07:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36102804)
Topic?

What jfman is saying is that we as a country don't give into intimidation, so why should we break that rule and give into the possibility of riots from anti-lockdown protestors?

Sephiroth 27-11-2021 09:16

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36102722)
At a population level a binary risk assessment on this manner is absolutely meaningless.

Such simplistic analysis unhelpful in a pandemic - the clue is in the name “pan”.

Shortly the mass infection is good idea will be in if/when the nu variant emerges here. Which leaves us dealing with the same old questions all over again. But hey ho, Britain can continue to be exceptional in respect of deaths as it erodes all kinds of immunity.

Eggs is eggs, John. I do hope that OB wears a mask should he come to Waitrose.

papa smurf 27-11-2021 09:55

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102814)
The variant is omicron, the virus is COVID-19.

Thank you captain pedantic.

ianch99 27-11-2021 09:59

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36102761)
But they’re not saying that - they’re saying "here’s how you can reduce the risk to yourself and others by using a number of different approaches, each of which reduces risk, but used together reduce the risk even more".

Doesn't it comes down, at the end of the day, to personal attitudes to risk, awareness and responsibility? Other countries seem to have a greater percentage of their population that care about the health & wellbeing of others and we have less. Not as less as some, but we're not great.

You have people who say that they have thrown away their masks so what would they so if they were in a room with potentially vulnerable people? A Doctor's waiting room for example. I do not understand how people demand not to wear a mask when, wearing one, can literally save someone life. It is such a pathetically easy thing to do to put one on when you enter a closed space.

How can you get so angry about the possibility of not killing someone?

Hugh 27-11-2021 10:07

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36102841)
Thank you captain pedantic.

You’re welcome, Private Parts.

Carth 27-11-2021 10:16

Re: Coronavirus
 
Wow, what about that name eh,eh,eh . . .

Omicron . . ommmmeeeeecrooooonnnn . . rolls off the tongue really well that one, much better than that short sharp Delta. Could even be the name of some Scandinavian heavy metal rock group, they go for names like that too, makes em sound sort of mysteriously dangerous.. . . especially when the drummer lets rip.

Good name I reckon, has plenty of potential, even the experts are saying potential . . along with 'might, if, could, maybe, possible' . . well you know the score by now, endless possibilites for it to evolve into the need for much bigger needles.. . and more often.

Lock Downs I hear you ask? Well perhaps after Christmas, at this present moment we don't want to be stopping people from spending money, the shareholders won't stand for it.. . and the Government are skint enough already.

Face masks are a definite though, and the new ones are brilliant bits of kit. They incorporate goggles to protect the eyes, and a straw that fits into a mouthpiece so you can drink tea, coffee, beer, wine etc in cafes, pubs and nightclubs and still be safe with the mask on, fantastic eh. Makes you look like a big bluebottle but who cares when you're out partying eh, eh.

Holidays is your next question I bet . . yep, thought it would be. No need to worry, the Government have done some super deals with Homebase, Screwfix and Wickes to provide 'do it yourself' holiday weekends. Dead easy to set up in a bedroom, dining room, or garage, in fact anywhere the hot tub will fit nicely. Then some yellow paint on the walls, blue paint on the ceiling, couple of sun loungers and a big sunlamp in the corner . . bobs yer dads brother so to speak.

Oh well, any more questions just ring my agent, I've blagged a place in one of them top secret Government bunkers . . c ya.

Jaymoss 27-11-2021 10:42

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The names just makes me think of Futurama

joglynne 27-11-2021 11:36

Re: Coronavirus
 
Omicrom = Oo. I didn't realise WHO jumped to the 15th letter of the Greek alphabet skipping Nu and Xi .....
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Why 'Omicron', Not 'Nu' or 'Xi'? WHO Says Two Letters in Greek Alphabet Jumped to avoid stigmatising a region*. Chinese President Xi Jimping shares his name with this letter of the Greek alphabet making it awkward and turning it into an opportunity for racism considering the origin of the coronavirus.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/wh...a-4492670.html


Add/ the article keeps being updated so forgive me if my quote is altered before you get to read the whole report.

* Xi County or Xixian is a county in the southwest of Shanxi province, China.


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