Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

What an awful thing to say. Now you have lost any high ground you had in this thread :td:

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

How come none of you are criticising what the police had to say about the protestors in the inspectorgadget blog? They talked/joked about blowing peoples heads off...
Suspiciously silent on that I've noticed.

And here, I mention "on a more humourous note" in reference to animals rebelling too (its a joke, get over it) and suddenly I'm an evil person. That says far more about some of you than it does me.

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Thats your opinion,and if its so easily swayed then perhaps it was never worth anything in the first place.

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

What a charmer.....

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

Sorry, but I didn't find anything remotely funny in that last one.

But it seems as though some officers have not learned anything from the G20 riots. Or seeing as the officers who hid their IDs from that little outing got away with it, they feel untouchable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWICu...eature=related

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

:LOL:

Obviously your true colours showing through.

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Nail and head :)

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

Of course they are in the wrong ! Hitting children and women is never justified unless they attack first.

No, the authorities haven't had a good kicking. Did you notice the street gangs that turned up to the demos? You think they don't have access to firearms? They all do, and if the police continue with their current strategy then someone's going to get killed. They need to stop instigating the violence before the situation escalates.
Also, there's no need to wonder about my agenda - I'm entirely open with my views on this subject. I may joke about the police horse rebelling against the establishment, but I'd never take any delight in seeing a fellow human being getting hurt, whether they be police or other.

Interesting point, I have noticed this too. The press are in the business of selling the news rather than reporting it, and the story right now is how the students have unleashed their rage against the establishment.

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My true colours as you put it, were quite clear in my first post in this thread :



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Good find. There have been anecdotal reports of officers wearing false numbers so as not to arouse too much suspicion. It worries me that they would wish to hide their ID at all.

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More violence at the 9/12 protest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u6wP...layer_embedded

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Here's an interesting read:
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.a...ntid=155592399

1 in 5 back violent protests, but 2 in 3 support use of water cannon.

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

:rolleyes:

Yep the cop lying injured in the road was instigating loads of violence.

The Police have gone out their way to avoid confrontation in previous incidents, resisting putting on full public order gear until the hail of misiles gets ridiculous.

Yes street gangs have access to firearms. If you think they would use the demo as an excuse to shoot at cops then you really are as stupid as you are coming across in this thread.

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One officer out of several thousand and it's already been explained away. Her epaulettes were on her hi-viz which officers had to change out of due to the petrol bombs being thrown their way.

Flammable Hi-Viz jackets + petrol bombs = a very bad mixture. Thats why they reverted to the flame retardant overalls later in the day.

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Why do you have to be so ignorant? I've no intention of stooping to your level so please for once say something sensible or I'll ignore you.

Everything you've said is biased in favour of the police, everyone can see it but you. The police can hide their name tags, drag someone from a wheelchair, attack without provocation, joke about shooting people, and you will just gloss over those details like nothing happened - and still defend the riot thugs in uniform.
I say anyone who is so biased on an issue that they have made up their minds whilst blatantly ignoring the hard facts is a fool, and there's no fool like an old fool. ;)

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Noone believes that rubbish, she was hiding her ID as were quite a few others - it was not an isolated case.

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99% of the cops I've seen on video have their shoulder numbers clearly visible.

I've already covered the 'treatment' of the professional protestor who seems to play on his disability when it suits him. I don't see any problem with the way he was dealt with under the circumstances. Being in a wheelchair doesn't automatically exempt you from being removed from an area.

Joke about shooting people? Oh I'm sorry that JOKES made by off-duty officers clearly in jest need to be justified.

Attack without provocation? Where?

Funnily enough I do. The Met commissioner does as well. If there were so many cops doing it how come they all managed to avoid being caught on video?

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

That the same Rambo that killed over 200 police and national guardsman, destroyed a town and got himself killed? Bit ott no matter what the victimisation imo... :D

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Bit like Sparkles joke earlier then, except that needed to be justified :shrug:

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

so sparkles found the clip amusing -but no one has mentioned that the police on horse back deliberately charged at students which could have resulted in death or terrible injury .

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

I'm sure the horses are taught and trained not to panic and step on anyone ;)

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1) Who on earth would take children to a protest? Even assuming the protest was meant to be peaceful, there is always the chance it will turn violent.

2) Why assume the Police hit first.
I know they do have access to firearms. I know they would also be perfectly willing to use these firearms in a protest without giving a rats about the actual purpose of the protest. This is why I condemn them. I don't actually condemn the students as a whole, nor do I condemn the Police.
The thing is, you did post a video of a Police officer (presumably) being injured, under a heading that described it as humorous, with no indication that you were being anything other than serious.
You appear to be saying that the Police are the the root cause of the trouble. I have cited examples where actions taken by the Police were found to have caused injury or death to others (well, the attack on the Prince's car didn't cause injury or death, but it is serious). In all those instances, we've had several days with most of the press (and other media ) reporting the story. So far, we've had that in none of the student protests. Why? The Sun and The Mail in particular are not known to be fans of the Police.

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You can train any animal as well as possible, but there will come a point where it believes it's life to be in danger and it will panic. Regardless of the training it receives.

I don't know the training they give their horses, but the Met so use them regularly in riots, so I am fairly certain they are trained to deal with riot situations as well.

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

well that one's clearly not up to the job -its probably on the supermarket shelf now as[dog food] as its no good in a crowd situation , or do they get to retire in a field full of fluffy bunnies .

Re: Students Rioting in London.
 

Sorry, but I hold that with as much credibility as there being a Father Christmas. She could have easily changed her epaulettes when she changed her jacket. Are you really expecting us to believe she was the only one?

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Well, I heard there was least five thousand police officers there, that would mean at least fifty of them hid their identification. I can't see why that doesn't worry anyone.

So, he is considered to be a bit of an irritant and that makes it okay to treat him like that. It may not make him exempt, but it does mean he should be treated in a way according to training. Is that how the police are trained to move someone along, who is in a wheelchair? What is the correct and authorised way to move someone in wheelchair?

What makes it okay because they were "off-duty?"


But you have already conceded that at least fifty of them did hide their identification.