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Sirius 26-01-2011 13:01

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35159019)
Although:



Didin't ACS:Law itself spin out of Davenport?

GCB is ACS law and they have been stopped from sending letters out

More info in this thread, Waring there is some bad language

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopi...92&start=14875

Welshchris 26-01-2011 19:09

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
i know of a woman who is in her late 60s who had a letter from ACS accusing her of downloading adult films. She wouldnt have the first clue how to and she hasnt got a wireless connection.

Sirius 26-01-2011 19:16

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35159361)
i know of a woman who is in her late 60s who had a letter from ACS accusing her of downloading adult films. She wouldnt have the first clue how to and she hasnt got a wireless connection.

Well it looks like all those that have been blackmailed by ACS and the other shysters are about to get there revenge

lymmranger 04-02-2011 15:43

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Well looks like its over now

"http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-medi ... es-110204/"

...........well quite a mess to clean up yet but looks like crossley is trying to "do a runner"

Edit - errr hang on try - "http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-mediacat-completely-shut-down-both-their-businesses-110204/"

Sirius 04-02-2011 18:27

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lymmranger (Post 35166831)
Well looks like its over now

"http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-medi ... es-110204/"

...........well quite a mess to clean up yet but looks like crossley is trying to "do a runner"

Edit - errr hang on try - "http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-and-mediacat-completely-shut-down-both-their-businesses-110204/"

:clap:

Excellent result, Hope the shysters are taken to the cleaners

Ramrod 04-02-2011 18:40

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35167050)
:clap:

Excellent result, Hope the shysters are take to the cleaners

Thats exactly what they are trying to avoid with this tactic.....

Sirius 04-02-2011 19:39

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35167070)
Thats exactly what they are trying to avoid with this tactic.....

Well lets hope they don't get away with it and that might make other shysters think twice before trying there blackmail trick

Ramrod 04-02-2011 19:41

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
They'll get away with it. At best the law will be changed to try to avoid this kind of thing......:(

Tarantella 05-02-2011 18:42

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
The ramifications of the case go beyond it as if the judge rules you cannot take a case to court based on the collection of ip addresses then isps should not be handing over customer details associated with ip addressess to 3rd parties in the first place and further more that clauses in contracts between isps and customers that say a customer is responsible for all activity on his ip address are currently unenforceable.

BenMcr 05-02-2011 18:47

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
I would point out that Virgin have never handed over customer details unless the court has ordered it to.

Stuart 06-02-2011 21:56

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
And MediaCAT, the company that carried on sending the letters after ACS Law stopped, has ceased trading. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12366747

lymmranger 07-02-2011 08:08

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35167921)
I would point out that Virgin have never handed over customer details unless the court has ordered it to.

Ben - dont go there...

YES THEY DID - they were the first to roll over back in Davenport Lyons days

your post does NOT tell the full story....

Very briefly the history went like this...

- VM were asked not to "object" to the NPO - they did NOT and so it went through, and the first victims of this scam were all VM customers (most of whom still have this hanging over them as the claims were never discontinued but transferred to ACS)

To be very fair to VM they subsequently stated that they would object to any further attempts at an NPO. Since then no one has even attempted to apply for an NPO against them. They were amongst the first ISP to do this and all kudos to them

BUT - like all the other ISP`s there eyes lit up with greed at the fee`s paid to them in return for there compliance.

Lets not try and rewrite history - we are not in Japan ;)

lymmranger 08-02-2011 10:43

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Just in case anyone is interested....

Judge Birse is expected to issue his judgement today at 2pm

....Should be interesting what he makes of Mediacat and ACS attempting to "do a runner"

.........maybe this will all end today????? (forever????);)

lymmranger 08-02-2011 16:47

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
Judge Birse has issued a statement (it is on link below)

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWPCC/2011/6.html

...having speed read it (so not definately accurate) a synopsis would be:-

It seems to be pretty much everything we could have hoped for

...it questions the NPO process was carried out correctly

....it questions the IP address collection process

....it questions how "collecting" an IP address actually proves anything

....it questions the validity of Mediacat`s right to actually claim anything

...it absolutely dam`s crossley`s conduct

...........and more to come in March

think we all deserve a drink tonight

Wayfair 08-02-2011 17:28

Re: Have you received a letter from Davenport Lyons or ACS?
 
A drink and a big thumbs up for your continued updates lymmranger :drunk:


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