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harry_hitch 07-02-2015 12:39
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35757750)
OK, we're both now agreed that hiking up advertising rates throughout Europe will not work.
If advertising alone could cover the cost of Premier League matches then ITV would be bidding for them! With a cost per match of £6.53m for the current 2013-2016 rights, ITV could not make the figures work for them in 2012. I can't see that this will change now especially as the cost per match will certainly rise. Sorry to be a damp squib, I don't see advertising as an option to cover Eurosport's costs if it won a package(s) of matches.

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For online subscriptions, it's £4pm* for a 12-month contract and £6pm* for a adhoc access (*less 1p).
What are you gibbering on about? how does the first line you quoted mean I agree with you about advertizing costs? Why did you snipe that line from a previous post when you have chosen to ignore my point about increased ad revenues during the PL games only?

Perhaps I am going about this the wrong way. If Eurosport itself (not Eurosport UK) funded by Discovery won PL rights, surely it would allow them to show the matches throughout the 50+ countries they operate in? If it does, charging advertizers extra in each of those countries for PL games and PL games only, will soon cover the cost of each game. If they do get the rights to games, and can only show them in the UK, then no, I agree ad revenues alone wont cover it.

If I am wrong about the rights issue throughout Europe, I will happily eat humble pie. Until then, I stand by the idea that a European wide broadcaster showing PL games in 50+ countries can easily make their money back through increased advertizing revenue.

1andrew1 07-02-2015 14:24
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35757765)
What are you gibbering on about? how does the first line you quoted mean I agree with you about advertizing costs? Why did you snipe that line from a previous post when you have chosen to ignore my point about increased ad revenues during the PL games only?

Perhaps I am going about this the wrong way. If Eurosport itself (not Eurosport UK) funded by Discovery won PL rights, surely it would allow them to show the matches throughout the 50+ countries they operate in? If it does, charging advertizers extra in each of those countries for PL games and PL games only, will soon cover the cost of each game. If they do get the rights to games, and can only show them in the UK, then no, I agree ad revenues alone wont cover it.

If I am wrong about the rights issue throughout Europe, I will happily eat humble pie. Until then, I stand by the idea that a European wide broadcaster showing PL games in 50+ countries can easily make their money back through increased advertizing revenue.
I agree that advertising rates rise for Premier League matches but according to ITV, not by enough to cover the cost of acquiring the rights to them. I've just been trying to understand the case that you've been making. Now that you mean multi-country rights, I understand what you're getting at though at present, the Premiership is sold on a per-country basis.

1andrew1 08-02-2015 13:57
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Final decision expected by Wednesday
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...n-goes-5121379

Dave42 08-02-2015 14:02
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35757940)
Final decision expected by Wednesday
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...n-goes-5121379
hoping be same sky win most games

denphone 08-02-2015 14:13
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l expect Sky to win the most packages but whatever happens its the customer who will be paying for it through their bills.

muppetman11 08-02-2015 14:28
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35757941)
hoping be same sky win most games
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35757946)
l expect Sky to win the most packages but whatever happens its the customer who will be paying for it through their bills.
I'm not too bothered who wins however my preference would probably be Sky because in my opinion they have the best set of all round sports rights and their coverage is second to none.

I have to admit to be being a little worried about a third and possibly fourth bidder being involved , those wanting to watch all games would face a massive hike should three broadcasters pick up rights.

Complete fantasyland but I suppose a dream scenario would be if someone like Bein Sport picked up the lions share this way it would be in there interest to offer every platform equal access on similar charges , not going to happen but we can wish.

harry_hitch 08-02-2015 15:47
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35757946)
l expect Sky to win the most packages but whatever happens its the customer who will be paying for it through their bills.
Yup, and I so look forward to all the moaning that will inevitably follow when the new deals are announced, it will be a new experience on here.;).

I know everyone is entitled to a good moan on here, and I agree it is wrong that it happens the way it does. I also know people choose to spend their hard earned money on paying for the sports channels. I have no problem with any of those things. However, whilst people choose to pay the prices, you simply have to deal with the fact you are going to continue to get your pants pulled down each month. Moaning about it on here (as cathartic as it may be) is not going to change anything.

OLD BOY 08-02-2015 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35757946)
l expect Sky to win the most packages but whatever happens its the customer who will be paying for it through their bills.
Well, I'm afraid that no-one else will, Den ;)

harry_hitch 08-02-2015 15:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35757779)
I agree that advertising rates rise for Premier League matches but according to ITV, not by enough to cover the cost of acquiring the rights to them. I've just been trying to understand the case that you've been making. Now that you mean multi-country rights, I understand what you're getting at though at present, the Premiership is sold on a per-country basis.
Yup, and if Eurosport pick up the rights to the countries they operate in, more "free" PL football in this country may happen.

As I said in a previous post though, it is a very unlikely scenario.

Gavin-D 09-02-2015 11:43
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I wouldn't rule beIN Sports out they have a lot more money than sky and could win easily if they are serious about showing the premier league

muppetman11 09-02-2015 12:24
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35758083)
I wouldn't rule beIN Sports out they have a lot more money than sky and could win easily if they are serious about showing the premier league
If only , at least we'd get equal access across all platforms. In reality I can't see it happening there schedule would be non existent and all the key rights are tied up for many years.

1andrew1 09-02-2015 12:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35758092)
If only , at least we'd get equal access across all platforms. In reality I can't see it happening there schedule would be non existent and all the key rights are tied up for many years.
A platform neutral broadcaster like beIN would be interesting, though I think if beIN wanted to enter another European sports market alongside France, Spain, Italy or Germany would be far better value than the UK. If their business model was unviable, could BT and Sky complain to the regulators about unfair state subsidy? Or would they prefer to co-operate with beIN instead?
Whilst there will always be some small overseas sports rights available, the key rights that draw subscribers have all been sewn up.

OLD BOY 09-02-2015 13:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35757946)
l expect Sky to win the most packages but whatever happens its the customer who will be paying for it through their bills.
http://advanced-television.com/2015/...eague-auction/

Main points

According to media analysis firm Ampere Research, with the outcome of the Premier League rights auction unknown, there’s no doubt that Sky is facing the greatest competitive challenge in the tournament’s 23-year history. “Based on analysis of past inflation rates, a three-season deal could hit the £5 billion mark for the first time as BT goes in hard against its main rival.

If Sky and BT buy the same packages, and bear the same level of costs relative to one another as they do with the current contract, Sky would need to spend £1.24 billion a year, £3.7 billion for a total three-season contract. BT would need to spend £402m a year, £1.2 billion for the total three-season contract. Based on its calculations, Ampere believes Sky will want to spend around or slightly below £3 billion for its share, leading to a disconnect in price to value. BT will be need to be looking around the £1 billion mark, assuming the pair retain the same packages they have now.

Ampere’s analysis suggests that Sky can spend £3 billion on the Premier League three-season deal without increasing the spend per TV customer over current levels, but, based on its inflation predictions, it may well need to dig deeper. While these numbers look high, the pot of £3 billion created by future customer growth leaves it just 24 per cent short of the implied inflationary cost. Adding in inflation over the three years means the stretch cost of £3.7 billion does not look completely unrealistic, suggests Ampere.

Ampere believes that entry of a new party to the bidding process could reduce these costs by around 10 per cent for each party, based on the assumption that a new entrant would risk only one of the seven packages available. How a three-way split would work for football fans is unclear.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758096)
A platform neutral broadcaster like beIN would be interesting, though I think if beIN wanted to enter another European sports market alongside France, Spain, Italy or Germany would be far better value than the UK. If their business model was unviable, could BT and Sky complain to the regulators about unfair state subsidy? Or would they prefer to co-operate with beIN instead?
Whilst there will always be some small overseas sports rights available, the key rights that draw subscribers have all been sewn up.
Well, it looks like BeIN is a likely contender - how much they will go for is the big question!

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...ights-package/

Four broadcasters are expected to be in the frame when bidding for the Premier League rights for 2016/19 closes Friday.

The existing rights holders Sky and BT will be joined by Eurosport owners Discovery Communications and the Qatar-based beIN Sport.

tvtimes 09-02-2015 18:25
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All these reports are simply guess work. They know nothing more than we do. I wouldn't listen to a single one of them. No one predicted bt's entry last year, not one of them, everyone expected All-Jazeera and look what happened!

These articles aren't worth the paper they're printed on or worth the time reading.

OLD BOY 09-02-2015 19:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvtimes (Post 35758170)
All these reports are simply guess work. They know nothing more than we do. I wouldn't listen to a single one of them. No one predicted bt's entry last year, not one of them, everyone expected All-Jazeera and look what happened!

These articles aren't worth the paper they're printed on or worth the time reading.
Well, we'll soon see, eh? ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 09-02-2015 22:08
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So when will we know ?

harry_hitch 09-02-2015 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35758254)
So when will we know ?
I have no idea Arthur. Hopefully as the mirror article suggests, we will find out by Wednesday.

OLD BOY 09-02-2015 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35758254)
So when will we know ?
We should know who has bid by Wednesday.

1andrew1 10-02-2015 00:34
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The Daily Telegraph has an interesting report. How solid its information is at this stage, we don't know but:
  • It says says no packages were won on Friday!
  • BT is unlikely to be satisfied unless it increases its current games by at least 18.
  • BT and Sky were probably not the only bidders.
  • The Sunday 4pm slot is the key one.
  • Citing unnamed analysts, it says Sky losing the 4pm Sunday package could cost it a fifth of its profits and a third of its sports subscribers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...dding-war.html

---------- Post added at 22:43 ---------- Previous post was at 22:25 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35758261)
We should know who has bid by Wednesday.
There are whispers on the web that it could be announced as early as 5pm tomorrow. (Tuesday).

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Confirmation that the news will be annoounced Tuesday now in from the BBC.
"However, Tuesday's record TV deal announcement..."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31331496

denphone 10-02-2015 04:50
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Well l stand by my hunch and that is Sky will keep 5 of the slots but then again what do l know.

tvtimes 10-02-2015 07:56
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758262)
The Daily Telegraph has an interesting report. How solid its information is at this stage, we don't know but:
  • It says says no packages were won on Friday!
  • BT is unlikely to be satisfied unless it increases its current games by at least 18.
  • BT and Sky were probably not the only bidders.
  • The Sunday 4pm slot is the key one.
  • Citing unnamed analysts, it says Sky losing the 4pm Sunday package could cost it a fifth of its profits and a third of its sports subscribers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...dding-war.html

---------- Post added at 22:43 ---------- Previous post was at 22:25 ----------

 There are whispers on the web that it could be announced as early as 5pm tomorrow. (Tuesday).

---------- Post added 10-02-2015 at 00:34 ---------- Previous post was 09-02-2015 at 22:43 ----------

Confirmation that the news will be annoounced Tuesday now in from the BBC.
"However, Tuesday's record TV deal announcement..."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31331496

Good Daily Telegraph, rehashing the same stuff everyone else is!

The BBC are saying deadline is around lunchtime today.

vincerooney 10-02-2015 10:25
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I'm hearing sky and bt have kept the same but switched as BT have got the 4pm Sunday and sky the early Saturday. And a third party has got some rights

So basically BT will bump the prices up saying "but we have the Sunday game now you have to pay more for the Sunday game!!" And sky will say "price decrease? Definitely not we have the same amount of games" and this third organisation believed to be BEin will arrive and say "pay us a tenner if you want to see every game"

They'll all laugh heartily as scudamore the premier league chief removes his top and strips for money with all the morals of an alley cat

Quite a day ahead

denphone 10-02-2015 10:34
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758312)
I'm hearing sky and bt have kept the same but switched as BT have got the 4pm Sunday and sky the early Saturday. And a third party has got some rights

So basically BT will bump the prices up saying "but we have the Sunday game now you have to pay more for the Sunday game!!" And sky will say "price decrease? Definitely not we have the same amount of games" and this third organisation believed to be BEin will arrive and say "pay us a tenner if you want to see every game"

They'll all laugh heartily as scudamore the premier league chief removes his top and strips for money with all the morals of an alley cat

Quite a day ahead
From what l have ascertained this morning Sky have won the top 4 packages whilst BT have won the rest but then again it might be the other way round Vince.:Yes::no::spin::no::Yes:

vincerooney 10-02-2015 11:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758313)
From what l have ascertained this morning Sky have won the top 4 packages whilst BT have won the rest but then again it might be the other way round Vince.:Yes::no::spin::no::Yes:
It'll be quite the day ahead! I'll be clicking the refresh button in work often as I have nothing better to do

Regardless of the packs BT win it'll be out the XL pack anyway in 18 months...

OLD BOY 10-02-2015 12:55
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...dding-war.html

The £4billion Premier League TV rights tender goes into a second round on Tuesday morning with revised bids due by midday. The seven packages are expected to be awarded later in the day.

Although the Discovery Channel and beIN Sport have shown interest, the most likely scenario is that Sky will retain four prime packages.

BT, meanwhile, will get an increased number of games, up to 56 out of the 168 live matches being sold per season for three years.

This is the latest information I have on this. Still speculation only on who is likely to come out on top.

I think beIN Sport will get a share of the games this time around.

vincerooney 10-02-2015 13:05
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35758342)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...dding-war.html

The £4billion Premier League TV rights tender goes into a second round on Tuesday morning with revised bids due by midday. The seven packages are expected to be awarded later in the day.

Although the Discovery Channel and beIN Sport have shown interest, the most likely scenario is that Sky will retain four prime packages.

BT, meanwhile, will get an increased number of games, up to 56 out of the 168 live matches being sold per season for three years.

This is the latest information I have on this. Still speculation only on who is likely to come out on top.

I think beIN Sport will get a share of the games this time around.
lets hope not. it'll be a lose-lose situation for consumers if they have to pay 3 providers to watch football!

remember then ofcom stopped sky having all the packages saying it'd be better for the customer! what a rotten screwjob that was! the premier league must have paid ofcom!

denphone 10-02-2015 13:09
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Personally l doubt very much that there will be three providers.:nono:

OLD BOY 10-02-2015 13:15
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758347)
Personally l doubt very much that there will be three providers.:nono:
I think you may have said that more in hope than anything else, Den!

Some reports are saying that beIN Sport are prepared to put a lot of money into this, so my bets would be on Sky Sports, BT and beIN Sport. I don't think Discovery will get a look in.

That's just my take on it.

denphone 10-02-2015 13:20
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35758350)
I think you may have said that more in hope than anything else, Den!

Some reports are saying that beIN Sport are prepared to put a lot of money into this, so my bets would be on Sky Sports, BT and beIN Sport. I don't think Discovery will get a look in.

That's just my take on it.
Well my hunch is there will be two providers OB and l am sticking to that but as with most things in life l am no expert on most matters.

vincerooney 10-02-2015 13:30
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Apparently news will be released at 5pm. May leak before hand though.

OLD BOY 10-02-2015 13:32
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758352)
Well my hunch is there will be two providers OB and l am sticking to that but as with most things in life l am no expert on most matters.
Well, hunch or not, your opinion is valued, Den.

Media Boy UK 10-02-2015 13:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35758350)
I think you may have said that more in hope than anything else, Den!

Some reports are saying that beIN Sport are prepared to put a lot of money into this, so my bets would be on Sky Sports, BT and beIN Sport. I don't think Discovery will get a look in.

That's just my take on it.
I did see rumours (Last year I think) that beIN Sport was looking to buy Premier Sports - so this may now happen if beIN Sport win any rights.

josh82 10-02-2015 13:51
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My friend in Doha reckons beIN have won 3 packages and are currently setting up a British version of their website.

1andrew1 10-02-2015 14:05
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758345)
remember when ofcom stopped sky having all the packages saying it'd be better for the customer! what a rotten screwjob that was! the premier league must have paid ofcom!
Ofcom had nothing to do with it, it was the European Commission who imposed that condition. Law of unintended consequences comes to mind!

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 14:09
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5pm press conference just after the LSE closes media can arrive from 16:30

Keep an eye on SSN from 16:30 if they have the feed they'll have done well if they don't have the feed then who knows whats happened....

johnathome 10-02-2015 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by josh82 (Post 35758364)
My friend in Doha reckons beIN have won 3 packages and are currently setting up a British version of their website.
We shall see!

https://twitter.com/TMFootyFinance/s...64799861219328

Media Boy UK 10-02-2015 15:52
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Via Twitter Dan Roan BBC Sports Editor "Signs emerging that US-owned Discovery Network (owners of Eurosport), didn't bid for PL rights after all. Let's see."

vincerooney 10-02-2015 16:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35758395)
No! No! Please don't!!

denphone 10-02-2015 16:17
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l cannot see it Vince.

vincerooney 10-02-2015 16:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758411)
l cannot see it Vince.
I can't handle this den! My heart is going!

johnathome 10-02-2015 16:22
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758408)
No! No! Please don't!!
I must admit with my team being in League 2 i could care less ;)

I would laugh though :)

denphone 10-02-2015 16:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758417)
I can't handle this den! My heart is going!
Just sit down and have a cup of Rosey Lea Vince.

muppetman11 10-02-2015 16:25
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With somebody like BeIN Sport you'd get equal access across all platforms however it makes it a mess if you watch quite a few sports.

denphone 10-02-2015 16:28
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A mess is what many people don't want MM and l personally think it will generally stay as it is with the packages.

alwaysabear 10-02-2015 16:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35758421)
With somebody like BeIN Sport you'd get equal access across all platforms however it makes it a mess if you watch quite a few sports.
Can you imagine if more than two Companies win rights!

---------- Post added at 16:30 ---------- Previous post was at 16:30 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758422)
A mess is what many people don't want MM and l personally think it will generally stay as it is with the packages.
I agree .

Anypermitedroute 10-02-2015 16:33
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on twitter: "now hearing that Sky "have done well" & that the front row of the press conference is dominated by them."

denphone 10-02-2015 16:36
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l am hearing the contest for the coveted 4pm Sunday slot is extremely tight and rumours persist that Sky might have lost this coveted slot.

vincerooney 10-02-2015 16:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758431)
l am hearing the contest for the coveted 4pm Sunday slot is extremely tight and rumours persist that Sky might have lost this coveted slot.
I'm hearing this too den.

Announcement has been delayed until stock exchange closes. Whatever that means. Could be potentially big news?

johnathome 10-02-2015 16:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35758428)
on twitter: "now hearing that Sky "have done well" & that the front row of the press conference is dominated by them."
oh bum

---------- Post added at 16:41 ---------- Previous post was at 16:40 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758432)
I'm hearing this too den.

Announcement has been delayed until stock exchange closes. Whatever that means. Could be potentially big news?
That doesn't sound very good for Sky then :D

passingbat 10-02-2015 16:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758431)
l am hearing .
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758432)
I'm hearing
Gossip or 'Insiders' :D

denphone 10-02-2015 16:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35758437)
Gossip or 'Insiders' :D
Both my good friend PB.;)

josh82 10-02-2015 16:51
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Sky and beIN Sports

johnathome 10-02-2015 16:52
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charlie sale @charliesale · 1m 1 minute ago
Hearing BT might have got the Sunday lunchtime package which would be a major triumph

---------- Post added at 16:52 ---------- Previous post was at 16:51 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by josh82 (Post 35758439)
Sky and beIN Sports
What about them?

braysoj1 10-02-2015 16:54
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follow the announcement live http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...d-to-head.html and it LIvvvvvvvvvvve

denphone 10-02-2015 16:55
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Well at the moment l already have three feeds.:spin::spin::spin:

vincerooney 10-02-2015 16:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35758437)
Gossip or 'Insiders' :D
Telegraph live coverage haha.

Twitter stating BT have got the Sunday lunch time game?

johnathome 10-02-2015 16:59
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I wish they'd hurry up, i'm in suspenders here!

denphone 10-02-2015 17:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35758445)
I wish they'd hurry up, i'm in suspenders here!
Oh ducky.:D

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Sky to show 126 games.

paultrademark 10-02-2015 17:01
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Sky have 126 games

johnathome 10-02-2015 17:02
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No change then!

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 17:02
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Sky 126 games

Dave42 10-02-2015 17:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35758450)
Sky 126 games
same as now :):):)

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 17:03
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Sky A, C, D, E, G

denphone 10-02-2015 17:03
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BT have the rest of the rights.

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 17:04
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£5.136bn paid

blue666666 10-02-2015 17:04
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over 5 billion

Dave42 10-02-2015 17:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758453)
BT have the rest of the rights.
same as now Den glad about that

paultrademark 10-02-2015 17:05
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£5.136 billion.. ffs

Dave42 10-02-2015 17:05
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price rises assured now

denphone 10-02-2015 17:05
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35758454)
£5.136bn paid
:shocked:

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 17:05
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Sky get Friday evenings, Monday evenings, Saturday afternoons, Sunday afternoons and bank holidays.

BT the rest

denphone 10-02-2015 17:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35758459)
price rises assured now
Absolutely inevitable.

Dave42 10-02-2015 17:07
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and you bet players wages will rocket too with the extra money and price to games will go up with it

OLD BOY 10-02-2015 17:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758453)
BT have the rest of the rights.
You were right, Den; well done!!

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 17:11
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sky sports report on what they've won

http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...-league-rights

Dave42 10-02-2015 17:12
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sky was always gonna make certain it won

vincerooney 10-02-2015 17:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35758462)
Absolutely inevitable.
Richard scudamore on sky sports currently is one of the nastiest most repulsive people in the world. Have a good look at him. He writes to clubs who charge cheap prices encouraging them to increase as it makes other clubs look bad

He's the man who will one day cause football in this country to implode

So has nothing changed??

denphone 10-02-2015 17:14
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Each game will cost the TV companies £10 million.

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 17:15
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Just over £10 million per game over the 3 years

vincerooney 10-02-2015 17:20
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can anyone explain this to me as im in work.

nothing has changed with the amount of games each company has? i thought there were more games available this time???

BT have lost early saturday games but gained skys early evening saturday games? And sky have got bts early saturday games?

blue666666 10-02-2015 17:22
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Friday game looks odd with European football/cup football tv has made football seven days
god help us

thenry 10-02-2015 17:23
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there are 14 more games overall.

@ Friday fixtures. it will help the PL teams in the CL.

Gavin-D 10-02-2015 17:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758473)
can anyone explain this to me as im in work.

nothing has changed with the amount of games each company has? i thought there were more games available this time???

BT have lost early saturday games but gained skys early evening saturday games? And sky have got bts early saturday games?
BT has gained 4 games

johnathome 10-02-2015 17:24
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BT paid £960m for their 2 packages

Sky paid £4.18bn for their 5

Over the last rights deal BT are paying +30% sky paying +83% more!

Wonder if they'll suck it up or raise the prices a fair bit?

blue666666 10-02-2015 17:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35758473)
can anyone explain this to me as im in work.

nothing has changed with the amount of games each company has? i thought there were more games available this time???

BT have lost early saturday games but gained skys early evening saturday games? And sky have got bts early saturday games?
bt has 38 games, but the new deal they have 42 games

Also sky will show the game on a Friday, Saturday. Sunday&Monday

================================================== ===========
link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-football.html

By Alan Tyers5:10PM GMT 10 Feb 2015 Comments1 Comment
Super Sunday
Or Super Mega Triple Double Extra Bacon Awesome Sunday, as Sky once considered branding it for Aston Villa thrillers. The big news is that Sky have kept the two Sunday afternoon games, including Super Sunday.
Bear in mind throughout all this that the TV companies, of course, get to choose which matches they show, but obviously everyone wants Man United v Liverpool, Arsenal v Chelsea and QPR versus the creeping sense of hopelessness. Thus, all of the agreed packages have included SOME but not ALL first picks.
Sky Sports will have the game at 4pm or so – this package has a lip-smacking 18 first-choice matches, so expect the biggest games to continue in this slot.
They will also show the earlier game at lunchtime. Nothing doing for BT on Sundays.
Friday
Sky have paid 5.136 billion for all their packages and will now show live top-flight football on Friday nights. There will be at least 18 games on a Friday night. This package was bundled with Monday nights…


Sky break bank in £5.136bn Premier League deal 10 Feb 2015
Live football on TV: Your guide to all the action 10 Feb 2015
Premier League TV rights announcement: live 10 Feb 2015
Monday Night Football
...which will still be shown on Sky Sports 1. The programme that introduced the Hairy Handed Richard Keys to the nation and is now so expertly pundited by Gary Neville and Jamie Redknapp stays on Sky Sports 1.
Saturday
Whether we like it or not, the idea of football on Saturday’s is still mired in the 1980s, because people in the olden days believed that football on a Saturday afternoon would stop people going to the game. So they went to a pub with moody Norwegian satellite TV. Catch up, granddad!
Sky Sports and BT Sports have done a Saturday Switcheroo. Sky Sports show the game that kicks off the weekend by kicking off at 12.30.
And then once everyone has come back from the ground/from the shops/from the hypnotic trance of watching Souey too early in the morning, then it’s over to BT Sport for the 5.30pm kick off.
The much less good days of the week, aka weekdays
There was a small package (stop it) of six weekday matches and then eight Saturday matches, but there were only two ‘first picks’ up for scrumps in this section.
Bank Holidays
Last and sorta kinda least, the package for eight Bank Holiday matches and six Saturday matches has gone to BT.
So what does it all mean? Well, it means that Sky have won packages A, C, D, E and G below and they paid an astonishing 5.136 billion to do so. Talk of a new player in town by, and about, BT may have been exaggerated...
The thoughts of Eurosport or whoever muscling in has been curtailed for now. That's what paying ten million per match gets you.

thenry 10-02-2015 17:27
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Price rises on Sky are expected but as much as it would have been had Sky won CL rights as well is unlikely.

Dave42 10-02-2015 17:38
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if BT becomes pay extra it be bye bye BT for certain here

blue666666 10-02-2015 17:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35758486)
if BT becomes pay extra it be bye bye BT for certain here
Same here bye bye bt

denphone 10-02-2015 17:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35758486)
if BT becomes pay extra it be bye bye BT for certain here
Yes there is no way that many are going to pay another £15 that's for sure.

Arthurgray50@blu 10-02-2015 17:58
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Lets put it this way, l think its bad for Tv fans. BT for me is a no simply reason is BT is a totally rubbish, and the horrible log at the bottom ruins the game for me

Clubs should reduce prices to get more fans inside the ground - total rip,

VM will almost certainly put prices up, as Sky will charge more - at the end of the day Fans will suffer

alwaysabear 10-02-2015 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35758486)
if BT becomes pay extra it be bye bye BT for certain here
Absolute cert here to!

1andrew1 10-02-2015 18:50
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Interesting graphic in this article.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-rights-sky-bt

---------- Post added at 18:50 ---------- Previous post was at 18:26 ----------

Doubtless there will be those who feel they have to get two subscriptions to follow their teams in the Premier League But with 126 matches, this continues to be the highest number of matches ever available under one Sky Sports subscription.
2001-2004 66 Sky Sports, 40 Sky PremPlus
2004-2007 88 Sky Sports, 50 Sky PremPlus
2007-2010 92 Sky Sports, 46 Setanta
2010-2013 115 Sky Sports, 23 ESPN
2013-2016 116 Sky Sports, 38 BT
2016-2019 126 Sky Sports, 42 BT

muppetman11 10-02-2015 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35758494)
Absolute cert here to!
I currently get it inclusive with my BB , if this changes once the Champions league kicks in I'll cancel.

vincerooney 10-02-2015 20:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35758494)
Absolute cert here to!
And BT will be scratching their heads as to why everyone's starting to cancel. Why would anyone willingly pay for Michael Owen. What did he pay to get that gig?

Mad Max 10-02-2015 20:59
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It's absolutely disgusting that these two companies, especially $ky, can afford to charge this extraordinary amount of money to broadcast football from the EPL, it just shows you how stupid, we, the gullible public must be.
The money that they are paying overrated footballers is ridiculous, and it's the poor old public, who want to watch the games on TV who are footing the bill for these guys to lead a life of outstanding luxury.
Shame on $ky & BT, if you increase my payments you can stick it up your arse!

Stephen 10-02-2015 21:31
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Yip, get rid of all silly football rights and go back to the days of the videprinter(sp?) on Grandstand ;)

Dave42 10-02-2015 21:36
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VM was right about the costs pity they had no chance of winning appeal :(

andy_m 10-02-2015 22:00
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£5bn. God I hope we stay up!

passingbat 10-02-2015 22:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35758547)
Yip, get rid of all silly football rights and go back to the days of the videprinter(sp?) on Grandstand ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl6GK42UpCM

muppetman11 10-02-2015 22:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35758548)
VM was right about the costs pity they had no chance of winning appeal :(
The sums are huge aren't they , as already been said on here its the customer who'll foot the bill and sadly not always the sports customers I feel , I'm sure some of these increases go on things like line rental and basic TV packs but what do I know.


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