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george.bailey 16-12-2011 22:40

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346743)
Plans can change,

Found this guardian article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...freeview-ofcom

I don't get it. I thought 5HD had already launched, how hard can it be to get it done on Freeview?

I want more BBC HD channels personally. Axe 3/4 and have 1/2/News as HD maybe? Probably not a popular idea though.

HD Boy 16-12-2011 22:45

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Originally Posted by george.bailey (Post 35346755)
I don't get it. I thought 5HD had already launched, how hard can it be to get it done on Freeview ?

I have already said what i think the reason is for that.

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Originally Posted by george.bailey (Post 35346755)
I want more BBC HD channels personally. Axe 3/4 and have 1/2/News as HD maybe? Probably not a popular idea though.

This is a likely option

BBC One HD , BBC Two HD , BBC HD (focused around BBC Three , BBC Four , Some kids programs and maybe some News in HD also)

george.bailey 16-12-2011 22:51

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346757)
BBC One HD , BBC Two HD , BBC HD (focused around BBC Three , BBC Four , Some kids programs and maybe some News in HD also)

I'd be happy with that.

zantarous 17-12-2011 00:21

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346283)
Ah, thought it might be. I was watching something with that charming eccentric old steeplejack in it on YeSTERDAY and it was pillarboxed with wrong aspect ratio, had to throw the TiVo into 4:3 mode and fiddle with the TV's zoom controls to get it right. You'd think the broadcaster would notice massive technical mistakes like that.

I think it is more broadcast related as other stations that have 4:3 material seem to appear fine, CBS action were showing TNG in the correct 4:3 as is Horror with their Highlander showings.

toady 17-12-2011 00:53

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Originally Posted by george.bailey (Post 35346755)
I don't get it. I thought 5HD had already launched, how hard can it be to get it done on Freeview?

I want more BBC HD channels personally. Axe 3/4 and have 1/2/News as HD maybe? Probably not a popular idea though.


I'd rather have more choice in SD rather than losing channels just so we can have more HD, still don't see the point of HD News channels.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 01:01

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I have said on this page what i think will happen.

Also BBC News will be showing in HD on BBC One HD and BBC Two HD later next year.

So there is no point in a BBC News HD channel.

Jameseh 17-12-2011 01:42

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BBC aren't going to get given the spot like last time, I imagine no-one will use/get it.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 01:44

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35346827)
BBC aren't going to get given the spot like last time, I imagine no-one will use/get it.

Considering ofcom has said the spare capacity will be handed back to the BBC.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post5367.html

Jameseh 17-12-2011 02:46

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Which they can't afford to run.

denphone 17-12-2011 07:16

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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35346745)
Like I said before,

CBS Drama
BET
BET+1
The Vault
Dance Nation TV
MTV Classics
MTV Music
Scuzz
Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic HD
Universal HD
TCM2
ITV2HD
ITV3HD
ITV4HD
Nickelodeon HD
Fox News
Sky News HD
Aljazeera
Deutsche Welle
Travel Channel
Fashion TV
Style Network
Hellenic TV

They added CBS Action,Sony tv and NDTV a very wise choice. Now they just have to add the above to meet everyones requirements.

l suspect quite a few of these will arrive next year.

TheDon 17-12-2011 08:47

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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35346745)
BET
BET+1

I don't know why anyone would want to watch those.

BET butcher near enough every TV show they air.

What they did to the wire was ridiculous. They cut out huge story lines because they weren't focused on the black characters. The season around the ports near enough the entire port storyline was cut because it didn't involve black characters.

The world has no place for "affirmative racism" and that channel epitomises it.

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 09:58

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35346120)
A typical HD channel takes up around x4 the bandwidth of a SD channnel. Even if you closed all the SD channels, its doubtful there would be enough bandwidth for a HD version of every SD channel - unless you start reducing the bitrate of those HD channels (in which case they become HD-lite).

I am aware of that and indeed made mention of it and the requirement to increase bandwidth or use a more efficient delivery mechanism further up the thread. However, eventually all TV will be HD* and 3D will be the next big thing, followed no doubt by an even higher definition standard, so the infrastructure will have to be able to facilitate this by a number of possible means including:-
  • Better use of the existing bandwidth
  • Expanding the bandwidth of the existing infrastructure (as is already being done for broadband)
  • Improved delivery mechanisms (such as IPTV)
  • FDDH - Fibre to the Home as opposed to co-ax from the street cabinet (see Fibre to the x)

Remember when 10Mb/s broadband was 'da bomb' on VM? Remember when a V.90/V.92 56kb/s modem was 'light speed' over a pair of twisted copper wires even if you only achieved 50kb/s or 52kb/s?

*Are there any stragglers which are still not widescreen? :(

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346168)
Yeah it's odd eh? Generally no-one uses vinyl any more, but you wouldn't know it from the couple of broken record types on CF. :p: :D

There's an alternative to vinyl? :erm: Not that 8-track or compact cassette magnetic tape rubbish! They're no good at all as the magnetic mount on my CB radio antenna keeps erasing them. :(

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346168)
In many cases because they haven't bothered to calibrate their brand spanking new HD TV sets, it has to be said

You have to calibrate them? :confused: You geek types take this stuff far too seriously. :rolleyes: Mine works fine right out of the box and I wasn't conned into buying one o' they fancy HDMI cables neither. :dunce: Nope, mine works fine with the SCART cable from my VCR although I have to connect the VCR to the TV via the RF co-ax cable now. :)

Never mind the quality, feel the width (of my wallet, that is)! :cool:

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35346154)

You see Arthur, if you spent more time here and less time over there you'd have the facts, the complete facts and nothing but the facts and in a timely fashion too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
On 15 September 2010, BSkyB announced that it would close Bravo as well as sister channel Bravo 2. The Bravo channels closed on 1 January 2011, with its most popular programmes moved to other Sky channels ...

So it refers to January of this year, not last year as some are mistakenly saying, and not January of next year or this coming year however you might care to phrase it. I think that we've established that now though.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 10:41

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346862)
I am aware of that and indeed made mention of it and the requirement to increase bandwidth or use a more efficient delivery mechanism further up the thread. However, eventually all TV will be HD* and 3D will be the next big thing, followed no doubt by an even higher definition standard, so the infrastructure will have to be able to facilitate this by a number of possible means including:-
  • Better use of the existing bandwidth
  • Expanding the bandwidth of the existing infrastructure (as is already being done for broadband)
  • Improved delivery mechanisms (such as IPTV)
  • FDDH - Fibre to the Home as opposed to co-ax from the street cabinet (see Fibre to the x)

I am not sure about 3D being the next big thing.

Virgin Media are expanding bandwith for HD channels to 80 HD channels by Dec 2013. That will increase even more than that when they switch to MPEG4 which they will likely do in 4 or 5 years when everyone is on the TiVo platform.

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 11:28

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35346194)
I was happier when there were fewer BBC channels, because the bar was higher. It wasn't a case of cramming spare slots with whatever cheap-to-produce reality trash people would sit and get dumber to, it was more like "if the quality isn't reasonably high, it isn't getting aired". The way the BBC is now in terms of TV, I'd be happy with BBC1, BBC2, BBC 1 HD and BBC 2 HD as long as they cut the right corners (i.e. weaker programs) in order to thin the herd and keep the best programming.

The defence for retaining the BBC as a publicly funded, non-commercial entity has always been about quality. The problem is that the BBC feel that they have to compete for audiences and, unfortunately, audiences apparently want tat! The News of the World and other media that are the subject of the Levinson Enquiry supplied what there was demand for. If nobody wanted to know who's phoning Hugh Grant late at night and what's in Alan Partridge's refuse bin then the more serious infringements might not have occurred.

What were the NotW readers reading about and watching on TV when stories such as the DTI brokering deals to sell Super-gun components to Iraq or, more recently, a cabinet minister bringing his 'friend' to MoD meetings with foreign governments and overseas 'suppliers' were being reported? That is reality TV not Pricey Kate mentoring future captains of industry. The problem is that a large portion of the public need to know what they don't want to know but want to know what they don't need to know.

Maybe the Nanny State should force the population to watch a certain number of hours of quality BBC programming each week!

Even BBC English has suffered on the BBC News channel and prime-time programmes such as Breakfast. The constructs of sentences both on the spoken and ticker versions of the news are terrible and, if you were to take them as they are presented, often mean something very different to what is intended.

If the BBC need to make cuts to stay within the Licence Fee budget it should aim to deliver quality not quantity.

I was going to post a quip the other day about saving money by making all of those expensive natural history series at BBC Bristol instead of 'in the field'. After all, we already know that they fabricate the sound-effect tracks there anyway. They use (Bird's) custard in rubber gloves for birds taking off! Then I saw on Have I got News for You last night that they have been using footage from a wildlife park in The Netherlands to show polar bears being born 'in the wild'. Scandalous! :shocked: Apparently it's a bit more Richard Attenborough than David Attenborough these days.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35346137)
From both as I have a 7 month old who loves the channel and the other 2 (8 and 9 year old's loved the channel growing up).
Well the 8 year old still does as he is Autistic and has a learning age of 4, The school that he is at lets all the Autistic kids watch it it as it is a good learning platform for them?

Ah yes, the 'smartening up' division of the BBC which, once you've reached adulthood, transfers you into the incapable hands of the 'dumbing down' division. :(

(John Craven's) Newsround - the first news programme for children in the world and I still find myself watching it before Pointless starts. Happy Birthday NS and Happy Anniversary to John. Quality! :tu:

HD Boy 17-12-2011 11:31

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They could have saved money by not wasting £22 million on The Voice

That 22 million is only for The rights to The Voice for 2 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-X-Factor.html

Then add the money for The presenter and The judges and it is even more money wasted.

That money could be have been a lot better spent.

denphone 17-12-2011 11:43

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346914)
They could have saved money by not wasting £22 million on The Voice

That 22 million is only for The rights to The Voice for 2 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-X-Factor.html

Then add the money for The presenter and The judges and it is even more money wasted.

That money could be have been a lot better spent.

Yes l have to agree with you as l am fed up with these talent shows and would much rather watch a Science fiction series or a good drama series then watching a bunch of wanabees celebritys flouncing around all the time.

Kingofthedead4 17-12-2011 11:46

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346919)
Yes l have to agree with you as l am fed up with these talent shows and would much rather watch a Science fiction series or a good drama series then watching a bunch of wanabees celebritys flouncing around all the time.

And dont forget the never ending cooking series what now seem to be appearing everywhere, as well as chat shows.

denphone 17-12-2011 11:50

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Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4 (Post 35346921)
And dont forget the never ending cooking series what now seem to be appearing everywhere, as well as chat shows.

Yes you are getting me started now as there has not been a decent chat show since Parky in my mind and as for cooking shows they need to go back to basics to learn some people of how to cook properly before they start to become more extravagant in their cooking.

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 11:53

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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35346205)
I know. I was just pointing out that just because someone has said 2 channels will be closed doesn't mean its the end of the world.

It might if one of them is 179 - God Channel! :)

HD Boy 17-12-2011 11:57

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346924)
It might if one of them is 179 - God Channel!

I have already said why 2 channels will not close on 1st January 2012
Spoiler: 
It is a Sunday

The only channel that is closing for sure is Sky Living Loves on Tuesday 24th January 2012.

Sky Livingit +1 might also close on Tuesday 24th January 2012 or it might not.
Current TV might also close or it might not.

We will have to wait and see.

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 12:53

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346212)
I do understand what you are saying, but the BBC world service and world news services are still important and now you can get them online, I feel that we need to expand the lisesnce fee to make it fit for purpose for this day and age.

We've established that World News is commercially operated already, so no change there, and that the target audience for World Service is outside the realm of the licence payer, so there are a few options available to reduce costs and source funding from elsewhere:-
  • Merge World News and World Service and have them both commercially funded. There would be significant savings to be made anyway by merging.
  • Make World Service an internet only broadcaster and do away with the cost of running and maintaining their transmission facilities and satellite leases. You would make a fortune selling off the vast transmitter sites. You could feed a third world country with the crops grown on the land if it were converted to agriculture. ;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35346212)
Which Is why I feel that the BBC should control the licence fee, not the government.

So, you're agreeing that the BBC should be "more autonomous and more business-like" but suggesting that it should have limitless, self-determined public funding with no supervisory body controlling the funding or overseeing how it is spent. Er, no thanks! Anyway, those are contradictory stances. Running an operation on the basis of limitless, self-determined public funding is not being "more autonomous and more business-like".

HD Boy 17-12-2011 12:59

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35346944)
We've established that World News is commercially operated already, so no change there, and that the target audience for World Service is outside the realm of the licence payer, so there are a few options available to reduce costs and source funding from elsewhere:-
  • Merge World News and World Service and have them both commercially funded. There would be significant savings to be made anyway by merging.
  • Make World Service an internet only broadcaster and do away with the cost of running and maintaining their transmission facilities and satellite leases. You would make a fortune selling off the vast transmitter sites. You could feed a third world country with the crops grown on the land if it were converted to agriculture. ;)
So, you're agreeing that the BBC should be "more autonomous and more business-like" but suggesting that it should have limitless, self-determined public funding with no supervisory body controlling the funding or overseeing how it is spent. Er, no thanks! Anyway, those are contradictory stances. Running an operation on the basis of limitless, self-determined public funding is not being "more autonomous and more business-like".

This is a coming soon to Virgin TV thread not " how the BBC should be run and payed for " thread.

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 13:06

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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35346205)
I know. I was just pointing out that just because someone has said 2 channels will be closed doesn't mean its the end of the world.

It might if one of them is 179 - God Channel! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346925)
I have already said why 2 channels will not close on 1st January 2012.

Er, you do realise that I was joking, don't you? :erm:

Nothing is closing on 1st January 2012, not because it is a Sunday but because the OP was referring to January 2011 (unless I too have become confused as that was a Saturday :confused:).

Hugh 17-12-2011 13:08

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346947)
This is a coming soon to Virgin TV thread not " how the BBC should be run and payed for " thread.

Thank you for your un-requested moderation.

denphone 17-12-2011 13:09

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346947)
This is a coming soon to Virgin TV thread not how the BBC should be run and payed for thread.

May l remind you of this posting on post 5415 by you.

Quote:

They could have saved money by not wasting £22 million on The Voice
Quote:

That 22 million is only for The rights to The Voice for 2 years.
Quote:

Then add the money for The presenter and The judges and it is even more money wasted.
Quote:

That money could be have been a lot better spent.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 13:10

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346950)
May l remind you of this posting by you.

Well that is Show is coming to Virgin TV. I just think something much better could be showing on the BBC on Virgin TV.

andy_m 17-12-2011 13:11

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What I love about Virgin's TiVo offering is that it allows you to cut through the dross which ALL channels show in amongst the few nuggets of real quality. When I had Sky I had thousands of channels but never anything to watch, now I have fewer channels but am never stuck.

This is also how I feel about (what I consider to be the excellent) IPlayer app on TiVo - it allows me to cut through a lot of the rubbish that the BBC produces and find some really excellent television. And lets be fair, the BBC does make some really excellent television.

However, whilst I can accept that TiVo is a great tool for sorting through the rubbish churned out by commercial channels, I find it hard to reconcile the need for a tool to sort through the rubbish produced by the BBC. There shouldn't be any!

I don't really have an opinion about the future of the licence fee or who should control it. What I do know is that you'd struggle to find a pay TV option for about a tenner a month with 5 SD channels, 2 HD channels and an enormous on demand library - factor in the radio channels and it really is superb value for money. But what I do have an opinion about is quantity over quality, and in future I'd really like to see less, not more from the BBC because, as Felim quite rightly points out, they really are now paying the price for trying to compete with some of the trash served up elsewhere. And thats a shame.

On a slightly different note, my wife is up in arms about one of the, admittedly unconfirmed, suggestions on here that we might lose E! at some point in 2012 and wants to know who to email:)

HD Boy 17-12-2011 13:16

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35346952)
On a slightly different note, my wife is up in arms about one of the, admittedly unconfirmed, suggestions on here that we might lose E! at some point in 2012 and wants to know who to email:)

I have seen that someone on here and i can not remember where i seen it.

Try this email.

salesUK-e@glam.com

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 13:18

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346947)
This is a coming soon to Virgin TV thread not " how the BBC should be run and payed for " thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35346949)
Thank you for your un-requested* moderation.

Yeah, sorry all, got a bit carried away! :rolleyes: I'll be real good from now on! :angel:

Anyway, the point is that we would like more channels but better quality from the existing channels would be an improvement.

BTW, I demand a recount of MB's top posters of 2011 as I believe I've moved up a few places in the table (but perhaps not in a good way)! :(

*unrequested (by which Hugh meant "unsolicited") but not unrequited.

denphone 17-12-2011 13:20

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On a slightly different note, my wife is up in arms about one of the, admittedly unconfirmed, suggestions on here that we might lose E! at some point in 2012 and wants to know who to email.
l don't think there is much chance of this channel being taken off Virgin in 2012.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 13:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346958)
l don't think there is much chance of this channel being taken off Virgin in 2012.

Maybe E! HD will launch in the UK in 2012 :D

denphone 17-12-2011 13:25

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346960)
Maybe E! HD will launch in the UK in 2012 :D

Much rather have ITV 4 HD, Universal HD or Sky Atlantic HD then a HD variant of this channel.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 13:27

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346961)
Much rather have ITV 4 HD, Universal HD or Sky Atlantic HD then a HD variant of this channel.

I was only joking. I would really like ITV 4 HD, Universal HD and Nat Geo Wild HD.

If ITV4 HD comes maybe early next year then the other 2 ITV HD channels would also come.

ITV4 HD is the best out of all 3 ITV HD channels IMO.

andy_m 17-12-2011 13:27

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(Whispers) wouldn't be too upset to see it go!

denphone 17-12-2011 13:35

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35346964)
(Whispers) wouldn't be too upset to see it go!

Yes don't tell the wife of your thoughts.:D

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 13:40

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35346287)
Drop all the timeshift channels too, that's what a PVR is for

As has already been mentioned a few times several pages back, PVR is not always the solution and time-shift, however it might be better delivered, is a flexible and useful feature.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35346389)
There are better ways to get more out of cable.

Use thicker cable? :erm: ;)

spiderplant 17-12-2011 13:54

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35346952)
On a slightly different note, my wife is up in arms about one of the, admittedly unconfirmed, suggestions on here that we might lose E! at some point in 2012 and wants to know who to email:)

It was a totally unfounded comment. E! gets respectable viewing figures.

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weekly-viewing?_s=3

HD Boy 17-12-2011 13:58

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35346978)
It was a totally unfounded comment. E! gets respectable viewing figures.

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weekly-viewing?_s=3

It gets more than CBS Action :erm:

andy_m 17-12-2011 14:01

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I know the comment was unfounded. I know it's not likely to go. My wife does not know these things.

I see no reason to upset the status quo!

denphone 17-12-2011 14:03

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346980)
It gets more than CBS Action :erm:

Thats surprises me as l know which channel l would watch.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 14:06

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346984)
Thats surprises me as l know which channel l would watch.

Same here. CBS Action is also on Freesat and E ! is not on freesat. That is Very weird.

E ! also has better viewing figures than CBS Drama , Sky Living Loves, Eden , Sony TV , Bio , Nat Geo Wild , Crime & Investigation

There is no chance of E ! leaving Virgin Media anytime soon IMO.

andy_m 17-12-2011 14:19

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Which only goes to prove the point made by Felim Doyle earlier. People want trash!

denphone 17-12-2011 15:11

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Lets get back to discussing whats coming soon and does anybody have any news on ESPN supposed plans to launch a sports news channel which was rumoured to be coming this year.

Felim_Doyle 17-12-2011 15:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346919)
Yes l have to agree with you as l am fed up with these talent shows and would much rather watch a Science fiction series or a good drama series then watching a bunch of wanabees celebritys flouncing around all the time.

Don't forget to watch some science fact too! :tu:

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Originally Posted by Kingofthedead4 (Post 35346921)
And dont forget the never ending cooking series what now seem to be appearing everywhere, as well as chat shows.

Then there are the 'fusion' shows: celebrities cooking, cooking talent shows, Heston Blumenthal cooking with science (sometimes resulting in science-fiction creations), renovating a river cottage while stalking wildlife to put in your casserole. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35346922)
... as for cooking shows they need to go back to basics to learn some people of how to cook properly before they start to become more extravagant in their cooking.

I noticed Fanny Cradock on Good Food the other day with her Christmas recipes and I'm sure Delia is still to be found demonstrating simple meals with a few eggs.

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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35346988)
Which only goes to prove the point made by Felim Doyle earlier. People want trash!

Yeah, just like the illegal drug trade, if the authorities concentrated on eliminating the demand, they wouldn't have to eliminate the supply which is generally more difficult. In a democracy, it's hard to control the media but if people were more discerning in their choice of viewing and reading material, the commercial ramifications would do the controlling automatically.

The BBC One / Challenge quiz show Pointless is quite entertaining but it's sometimes astonishing what the contestants and the surveyed public do and don't know. I'm sorry to say it's becoming reminiscent of polls in the US where fewer than 50% of the public knew who the current president was and such like. I'm sure there are some segments of the UK population who know more about the lives of fictional characters on TV or the actors that play them than the important things that directly affect their own lives.

The various BBC and ITV talent shows have produced some good acts but some duds too. Unfortunately, many of the duds from talent and reality :rolleyes: shows have continued to negatively impact our lives by hosting shows of their own and fuelling the tabloids with their dysfunctional lives.

So, if we are to raise the standard of the publicly funded programming, we also need to raise the standard of the commercially funded programming and that requires the public to demand better quality.

Virgin Media are a commercial enterprise and will endeavour to supply the channels that their customers demand (i.e. will pay for). So, in 2012, it's up to us to influence what's "Coming Soon to Virgin TV" so that we get what we want and not what we deserve!

Yeah I know, a simplistic view but it's a starting point.

Alan Fry 17-12-2011 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346914)
They could have saved money by not wasting £22 million on The Voice

That 22 million is only for The rights to The Voice for 2 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-X-Factor.html

Then add the money for The presenter and The judges and it is even more money wasted.

That money could be have been a lot better spent.

Why on earth is the BBC spending that much when it can afford to send presenters to Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine

HD Boy 17-12-2011 16:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35347080)
Why on earth is the BBC spending that much when it can afford to send presenters to Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine

That is incorrect.

Hugh 17-12-2011 16:58

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Shall we try getting back to the topic, please?

HD Boy 17-12-2011 17:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Den had posted eariler today if there was any news on a new ESPN channel which was meant to be coming in 2011 ? It was removed for some reason

Does anyone have any info about a new ESPN channel ?

Lew 17-12-2011 17:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
It got deleted as part of a clean-up. I've restored the post.

As for the question, I don't recall it being anything definite so I'd imagine in the current financial climate ESPN have decided to hold off for now.

braysoj1 17-12-2011 17:55

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what was this 4th channel someone was on about last last week any one know

denphone 17-12-2011 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35347100)
what was this 4th channel someone was on about last last week any one know

There was no 4th channel so l would put that down to speculation and nothing more then that.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35347100)
what was this 4th channel someone was on about last last week any one know

Spiderplant could know the answer to that.

My guess is it was only a Engineering channel.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 20:20

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Why has the BBC HD channel got two identical pictures :erm: :D

braysoj1 17-12-2011 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347175)
Why has the BBC HD channel got two identical pictures :erm: :D

It been show in 3d m8

i hope we get prem sport and prem sport extra : )

HD Boy 17-12-2011 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35347176)
It been show in 3d m8

It was meant to be a joke

spiderplant 17-12-2011 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347103)
Spiderplant could know the answer to that.

Don't think I do. Who saw it and where?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347175)
Why has the BBC HD channel got two identical pictures :erm: :D

I hope they are not identical!

HD Boy 17-12-2011 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35347205)
Don't think I do. Who saw it and where?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35343873
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35344275
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35344282
---------- Post added at 20:30 ---------- Previous post was at 20:28 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35347205)

I hope they are not identical!

No. Ok It was " almost " identical

spiderplant 17-12-2011 21:49

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Those links don't work for me. I only have 55 pages in this thread.

HD Boy 17-12-2011 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35347218)
Those links don't work for me. I only have 55 pages in this thread.

I have checked and they do work and there is 364 pages in this thread :confused:

This is what the person said.
Quote:

it doesn't tell me, unfortunately just that there is a 4th stream currently being tested. In the past it would tell me if its an hd channel testing by changing the description in the corner, but this time it hasn't. My best guess is that it will be another channel but only in SD.
Quote:

Hi guys, done some more 'digging' around and virgin seem to split their test transmissions into certain sections of the epg. I just took one test stream and it was testing among skys hd movie channels. It didn't tell me what it was and there was no picture, but this could be the 4th channel, one in HD?
Quote:

Im not saying it is an hd channel, just that the test stream was testing within a batch of premium hd channels.

devilincarnate 17-12-2011 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347175)
Why has the BBC HD channel got two identical pictures :erm: :D

It is for people who have got double vision:)

HD Boy 17-12-2011 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35347235)
It is for people who have got double vision:)

:D:D

spiderplant 17-12-2011 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347220)
I have checked and they do work and there is 364 pages in this thread :confused:

It depends what you have the page size set to in your profile options. I have it set to 100.

Anyway, I don't know what the channel is.

Horizon 17-12-2011 22:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35346978)
It was a totally unfounded comment. E! gets respectable viewing figures.]

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weekly-viewing?_s=3

That link gives no information about viewing figures on cable. Those barb figures are for all platforms. As for them being respectable, I suppose that's debatable.

My suggestion about E!, "unfounded" or otherwise (and we'll see what happens next year) remains my opinion.

Digital Fanatic 17-12-2011 23:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35347239)
That link gives no information about viewing figures on cable. Those barb figures are for all platforms. As for them being respectable, I suppose that's debatable.

My suggestion about E!, "unfounded" or otherwise (and we'll see what happens next year) remains my opinion.

They get more than EuroSport ;)

Chad 18-12-2011 00:32

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E! is a very popular channel amongst the females between 16 to 25 year olds due to their targeted programming. It's rare in the sense that for a female focused channel, it is a complete success. Living was originally a female targeted channel which became more unisex along the way.

There is no way Virgin will be dropping E! It's a great driver for Virgin to get female subscribers off M+ and onto either the L or XL package.

Anyway why are we discussing this here anyway? It's the "Coming Soon" thread not channels closing thread. Until someone can post proof anywhere on this forum that E! is leaving Virgin, anything we type about it including this very post is nothing but unsubstantiated pish posh and drivel.

denphone 18-12-2011 05:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35347258)
They get more than EuroSport ;)

That surprises me.:shocked:

Chad 18-12-2011 05:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35347258)
They get more than EuroSport ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347314)
That surprises me.:shocked:

They get more viewers than any of the MTV music channels and blast both SKY Arts and SKY Arts 2 out of the water. E! in HD would be more popular than some of the channels already broadcasting on the Virgin platform.

richard1960 18-12-2011 10:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35347315)
They get more viewers than any of the MTV music channels and blast both SKY Arts and SKY Arts 2 out of the water. E! in HD would be more popular than some of the channels already broadcasting on the Virgin platform.

I do not want to see E disappear but i personally would rather have some culture on Sky Arts then celeb based drivel,but i suppose the target audience just wants vacuous programming.! Horses for courses as they say.;)

Then again Arena on BBC2 has some excellent Arts based programming now and in the past i suppose that would go right over the head of an E audience.:D:D

denphone 18-12-2011 11:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35347315)
They get more viewers than any of the MTV music channels and blast both SKY Arts and SKY Arts 2 out of the water. E! in HD would be more popular than some of the channels already broadcasting on the Virgin platform.

Its amazing how this celebrity type drivel is so engrained into the culture of a certain core of viewers nowadays.:(

Horizon 18-12-2011 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35347275)
Anyway why are we discussing this here anyway? It's the "Coming Soon" thread not channels closing thread. Until someone can post proof anywhere on this forum that E! is leaving Virgin, anything we type about it including this very post is nothing but unsubstantiated pish posh and drivel.

Fair enough.

I've just realised E! is part of the NBC Universal group (now owned by Comcast) so its not a little channel on its own. When VM signs a new "3 screens" deal with NBC, probably E! will be included in that.

Media Boy UK 18-12-2011 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35346230)
Media Boy do you know anything about this ?

I do know Virgin did have Horror Channel on Virgin Channel 170 before moving it to Channel 149 the few years ago. So maybe forgot they have moved.:D

Felim_Doyle 18-12-2011 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347175)
Why has the BBC HD channel got two identical pictures :erm: :D

Did anyone watch 3D Strictly Come Dancing on BBC HD? If so, was it any good? Does it show promise for more 3D on VM?

---------- Post added at 11:22 ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35347235)
It is for people who have got double vision:)

That would be cruel. They'd have quadruple vision then! :(

muppetman11 18-12-2011 12:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35347358)
Did anyone watch 3D Strictly Come Dancing on BBC HD? If so, was it any good? Does it show promise for more 3D on VM?

Yes an excellent production by the BBC even if the shows not upto much :D

Felim_Doyle 18-12-2011 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35347275)
Anyway why are we discussing this here anyway? It's the "Coming Soon" thread not channels closing thread. Until someone can post proof anywhere on this forum that E! is leaving Virgin, anything we type about it including this very post is nothing but unsubstantiated pish posh and drivel.

Well I think that any significant change that is "Coming Soon ..." is an on topic post here including but not limited to channels being dropped or renamed. As for speculative posts with no basis in fact ... I agree that multiple contradictory speculative responses with no basis in fact are pointless.

Personally I don't think that VM will drop E! because it is the only channel they have with an exclamation point in its name just as Westward Ho! is the only town in the UK with an exclamation point in its name! ;) That was a question in a Gold Run on Blockbusters last week. "What WH is ... ?"

ncfc1902 19-12-2011 12:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Posted in a new thread, but will also post here as it's "coming soon"! Well next year anyway........

Virgin Media signs BBC sports coverage deal

Virgin Media has struck a deal with the BBC to give viewers access to hundreds of hours of extra coverage of major sports events next year, including live video streams from the London 2012 Olympics, through its TiVo service.

The wide-ranging deal will give Virgin Media customers access to "enhanced" BBC TV services – the additional video streams and interactive content accessed via the red button – for a range of the corporation's news and sports coverage next year.

Significantly, Virgin Media customers will now have access to all 24 streams of coverage that the BBC is broadcasting of various Olympic events.

However, the deal also covers the "red button" content of events including Formula One, Wimbledon and Euro 2012.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...eal?CMP=twt_fd

HD Boy 19-12-2011 12:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 35347792)
Posted in a new thread, but will also post here as it's "coming soon"! Well next year anyway........

Virgin Media signs BBC sports coverage deal

Virgin Media has struck a deal with the BBC to give viewers access to hundreds of hours of extra coverage of major sports events next year, including live video streams from the London 2012 Olympics, through its TiVo service.

The wide-ranging deal will give Virgin Media customers access to "enhanced" BBC TV services – the additional video streams and interactive content accessed via the red button – for a range of the corporation's news and sports coverage next year.

Significantly, Virgin Media customers will now have access to all 24 streams of coverage that the BBC is broadcasting of various Olympic events.

However, the deal also covers the "red button" content of events including Formula One, Wimbledon and Euro 2012.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...eal?CMP=twt_fd

That link has already been posted in the General Tivo discussion thread.

Stephen 19-12-2011 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347794)
That link has already been posted has already been posted in the General Tivo discussion thread.

Not in this thread it hasn't!!

Also, this coming from the person that posts the same links over and over again!

denphone 19-12-2011 13:46

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Has anybody got any news of the Al Jazeera news channel possibly being added next year.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 13:50

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347832)
Has anybody got any news of the Al Jazeera news channel possibly being added next year.

As Virgin Media have added NDTV which is a pay channel then Virgin Media can surely add a free to view channel.

I think Al Jazeera will come next year.

I may be wrong.

denphone 19-12-2011 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347833)
As Virgin Media have added NDTV which is a pay channel then Virgin Media can surely add a free to view channel.

I think Al Jazeera will come next year.

I may be wrong.

It would be nice to have a news perspective from someone different rather then the same old BBC and Sky news.

Media Boy UK 19-12-2011 13:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347836)
It would be nice to have a news perspective from someone different rather then the same old BBC and Sky news.

I am an fan of Russia Today I watch it sometimes when seeing what on Freeview.

Stephen 19-12-2011 13:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
OK back on topic.

Some OT posts removed.

denphone 19-12-2011 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35347837)
I am an fan of Russia Today I watch it sometimes when seeing what on Freeview.

Yes that would be nice along with a Chinese news channel as well.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347840)
Yes that would be nice along with a Chinese news channel as well.

Would people want Fox News ? I know i would not want Fox News.

Media Boy UK 19-12-2011 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347843)
Would people want Fox News ? I know i would not want Fox News.

We have got Fox News right now - it called Sky News.:D

HD Boy 19-12-2011 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35347844)
We have got Fox News right now - it called Sky News.:D

LOL :D

Digital Fanatic 19-12-2011 14:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347843)
Would people want Fox News ? I know i would not want Fox News.

Yuk! Fox News is vile! :sick:

denphone 19-12-2011 14:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35347844)
We have got Fox News right now - it called Sky News.:D

Yes most definitely and l for one miss the old ITV News channel when we had that.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 14:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35347848)
Yuk! Fox News is vile! :sick:

:clap::clap:

I would also not watch Kay Burley in HD :sick:

Jameseh 19-12-2011 14:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347850)
I would also would not want to watch Kay Burley in HD

You could always... change the channel?

borrissey 19-12-2011 14:16

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I for one would never watch Fox News like I refuse to watch Sky News.

denphone 19-12-2011 14:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35347857)
I for one would never watch Fox News like I refuse to watch Sky News.

Then you have the choice of BBC, CNN, Euronews and the new Indian news channel.

borrissey 19-12-2011 14:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347858)
Then you have the choice of BBC, CNN, Euronews and the new Indian news channel.

Yep the choice is there, BBC for me.

denphone 19-12-2011 14:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35347860)
Yep the choice is there, BBC for me.

Same here as well although it has its faults as well.

muppetman11 19-12-2011 14:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
I for one think Sky News is excellent and balanced , a point proven when Mr Murdoch came under fire on the channel. I'm afraid some on here just slate anything linked with Sky.

denphone 19-12-2011 14:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35347863)
I for one think Sky News is excellent and balanced , a point proven when Mr Murdoch came under fire on the channel. I'm afraid some on here just slate anything linked with Sky.

l will criticise if l need to whether its Sky, Virgin or anybody else if there is a need to criticise.

muppetman11 19-12-2011 14:38

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35347867)
l will criticise if l need to whether its Sky, Virgin or anybody else if there is a need to criticise.

And you are entitled to , as am I ;)

Perfect Choice 19-12-2011 14:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35347863)
I for one think Sky News is excellent and balanced , a point proven when Mr Murdoch came under fire on the channel. I'm afraid some on here just slate anything linked with Sky.

Agreed, it is the BBC News I don't like these days with all "their" analysis and opinions. Feels like big brother dictating to the audience at times. Not saying Sky is "neutral" but finding them more balanced than the BBC these days myself.

Time to get back on topic again for this thread?

muppetman11 19-12-2011 14:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35347843)
Would people want Fox News ? I know i would not want Fox News.

Probably due to the fact that most of the news reported concerns affairs across the pond ;) If you had ever been to the US you would know the majority of the US news channels tend to show very little news stories from anywhere else in the world.

---------- Post added at 13:48 ---------- Previous post was at 13:43 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35347871)
Agreed, it is the BBC News I don't like these days with all "their" analysis and opinions. Feels like big brother dictating to the audience at times. Not saying Sky is "neutral" but finding them more balanced than the BBC these days myself.

Time to get back on topic again for this thread?

Agreed , I personally enjoy some of their shows such as press preview , Jeff Randall Live etc. I suppose its personal preference very similar to what paper you read , to get back on topic I feel VM offer a good selection of news channels , Al Jazeera would be a nice addition.

HD Boy 19-12-2011 14:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35347872)
Agreed , I personally enjoy some of their shows such as press preview , Jeff Randall Live etc. I suppose its personal preference very similar to what paper you read ,

Do you like reading The Sun and The Times :D


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