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Excellent, thanks Ben. It's been my long term plan, but I thought I'd wait for them to iron out the kinks and sort the red button stuff out. If multiroon is working with this update I'll glady splash out that to upgrade :tu:

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what exactly is the mult-room streaming?

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If you have 2 TIVO's, you'll be able to watch the recordings on one box on the other TIVO.

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oh sweet

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This person got the new Youtube App :confused:
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...pp/td-p/784753

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I can not comment as I have not got a Youtube account or the new software:D:D:D

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I live in the pilot area and have the update and can confirm that my Youtube app hasn't been updated.

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Sorry guys if I'm a little confused on the update(s)

Are we still getting two updates this year?

1. before the end of October
2. by the end of the year

or is the one currently being rolled out the only one.

Many thanks

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As far as l know there is one larger update near Christmas and then several smaller ones thereafter.

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I sincerely hope not, could you imagine if there was a software glitch that wouldn't be fixed until the new year.

There would be carnage!

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BBC Red button is coming to Tivo for next update and are hoping Sky Sports will be added by the next update.
http://twitter.com/#!/buddieboy2011

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Just to be clear they mean after the update that is currently in pilot

BIG HINT free Tivo
 

Spoke to retentions yesterday.

Have got Tivo at no cost what so ever.

Yes I mean no £3.50 per month ( my bill is reduced from what it was [by £9])
No install charge
No set up charge:D:D

The big hint - from CS "have you seen ANY offers regarding tivo." You must tell them. It is not offered !!!!

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I know.

Ken said there was a update in october and he was right he also said there would be update in November. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post3108.html
I think there are the same update. I think November is when the Tivo update will be fully rolled out.

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Yes, I know. Glad you've realised it's not two different updates

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Yeah no offence to Ken but I thinks he's just guessing. ;)

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He said Sky Anytime would launch now and he was also right.

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Same again. ;)

Also you might find this interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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Having got the new software I can confirm that this is now the case. It happened to me the other day when I was setting three programmes to record at the same time, and the padding of a previous programme had got in the way. It popped up a window stating the details of the programme which would be clipped.

--John

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Is this true ?
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../786215/page/2

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No reason why not.

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Dose anyone know if the TiVo apps will be getting a web search like Google, Yahoo or live?

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Why would they? Its a PVR, not a web browser.

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So, does it now use 1 tuner to record back-to-back programmes on the same channel?

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IMOP and i think possibly virgin media and some other major technology companies are trying to gray the line between the old school PC and the home TV.

So yes a web browser with the ability to search would aid this and give Virgin Media a boots over rials like Sky

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Once the padding has been trimmed it's up to the TiVo to decide. If it needs to it will.

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It's no small job providing TiVo with modern HTML interpreter and renderer. Of course they could use something like webkit but it quite a job AKAIK.

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They said that about Google TV. Look what's happened there.

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I'll take that as a 'maybe' ;)

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No comment. :D

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How will they do this could they Scrap the £3 per month for Tivo ?
http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...ood-800760492/

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It will get built into the package price by then I guess.

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im surprised im the only one who has said it...
seems weird to me.

one tuner can record one channel right..

why cant the software (because thats all it would be) record the padding of both programmes on both recording programes (back to back) on the same channel.

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Would point out that all TV packages are generally now advertised including the TiVo fee, so for new TV customers there is no £3 a month as such

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TV Xl with Tivo is £2.50 more than Sky's Entertainment extra pack. That surely won't last long

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What about customers who have no interest in HD seems crazy to charge 27.50 a month and 49.95 for the box when their biggest competitor offers a free PVR for 25.00 a month.

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I agree.That surely won't last long. I wouldn't be suprised if something happens with the Tivo £3 per month fee in April 2012. The 500GB Tivo is free to new customers and Sky+HD box is £30 without the HD pack

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Last time I checked you could get TiVo for £9.50 a month

Oh look http://shop.virginmedia.com/digital-...ze-m-plus.html

;)

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£23.40;) But still cheaper than Sky and you get phone included

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Exactly.:)

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Or £15.50 without a phone line if we getting that pedantic :D

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If we were being pedantic it would be £12.50 a month without a phone line:p: Dosnt mention a £3 tivo charge anywhere

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No because when you go through to basket it select the V HD box, not TiVo. At that point you can add TiVo on where the £3 is mentioned

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So is the £9.50 with phone line £26.40 then as well?

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I ordered my second TIVO box today for bedroom 500GB, not getting installed till the 6th December though. They must be selling well...

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They are selling very well according to Neil Berkett
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...987479026.html

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No because the £9.50 is including TiVo as it says on the page, whereas the £12.50 line makes no mention of TiVo

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Oh I give up. Next time I'll leave you all to make up stuff as per usual

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Excellent value for money then

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As I said before.I don`t care how the bill is broken down ! getting more for less is great. Tivo and a v+ for £9 less per month & no upfront charges is great as far as I am concerned. Not worried about BB speed or what part of the the phone bill is free calls ( have a spend of £1 to £2 on calls per month !)

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If no one has seen this yet?


BANGED UP ABROAD: WIN VIRGIN MEDIA TIVO DIGITAL TV

http://natgeotv.com/uk/banged-up-abroad/competition

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I have just recorded two random programmes which were back-to-back. Both programmes had no padding at the start and five minutes at the end.

Both had the extra five minutes included in their recorded duration. So I guess the answer is that the new software still uses two tuners in this situation.

--John

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No good to me now as l already have 2 tivo's.

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Is 1080p still in the video settings ? or has it been removed in the Tivo Update ?
My TV supports 1080p 24hz Would i be able to display 1080p on Tivo on my TV ? Would it make any difference to the picture quality if it worked ?

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Your TV needs to support 1080p25, IIRC. Also, I don't think it matters as there's no 1080p content for it to display anyway so HD programming would still be in 1080i.

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I have read on some places it is 1080p24 :confused:

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Where?

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Ben posted this on the Virgin Forums
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../329219/page/3

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You appear to be, at best, misinterpreting what he posted, and at worst, selectively quoting what he posted, and completely ignoring what he posted earlier on that page.

He repeatedly states that nothing higher than 1080i is supported on the TiVo in the UK.

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The 1080p mentioned in TiVo settings isn't used. It's a leftover thing from US TiVo. It was simply a pass through feature.

All UK HD is broadcast in 1080i

You tv does 1080p 24 which is usually the format Blu Ray movies will look best in.

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The VM TiVo supports passthrough of 1080p25. The help text does say 1080p24 in the 15.1 software, but this was a leftover from the US version. It has been corrected in the 15.2 software.

But it's irrelevant at the moment as there is no 1080p content.

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how can you tell what sw version is on the box and how can you tell when you need to update?

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Go to Home -> Help & Settings -> System Info -> System Info to see the version number.

VM will update your box automatically when the time is right. You don't need to do anything.

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thanks

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Hi sorry if this has already been asked but will I be locked into a new 12 month contract if I get a new TiVo box?

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as far as i am aware yes, i have just got TIVO and someone on here says its a new 12 month contract

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Yes I was told new 12 month contract ( that was this week)

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Thanks for the help!
I have been trying to get it for free but Virgin are having non of it.
Think I will wait for the remainder of my contract to run out and see what the deals are then

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well i tried the free route and got no where been with them 9 years but in the middle of a new deal from march this year, still went for it because of the free V+ box upstairs for as long as we have tivo , thought to myself knowing my luck march next year that promo might have ended. when they move the V+ box upstairs do they dumb it down to anormal box or does it keep all its features?. Looking forward to Wednesday to get the beast fitted.


p.s also confirm my obligation is to keep TV for 12 months (any tv package).

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Would i get the free multiroom offer if I have TV XL and currently have a V HD box also do they need to install cables in the other room or is just a signal to the box in the another room ?

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The V+ box keeps all its features.

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cheers thats great to know, HDBOY= dont know if its just an offer for existing V+ customers or all customers.

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Just found this. It was posted by Ben who is a Virgin Media staff member
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35307907-post40.html

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As I said before. This week I have been offered (I am on XL TV ) & out of contract.

V+ moved ( no charge) guess that ties in with this

TiVo installed NO charge so much for brand new customers only:p:

And my overall bill reduced by £9 per month ( so as I see it no £3 per month cost either):D

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Just seen on VM's facebook page that changes to the tivo fee are coming Nov 1st. Will be £3 per box.

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good job i dont want a second box then :shocked:

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Where i can't find it ?

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quote- Just in Kev, if you order before 1st November you'll be charged £3.00 per account rather than per box. After that, it's £3.00 per TiVo box. Hope this makes sense, Michael

Im on my phone, cant do link at mo.

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If this is true Will you also have to pay £6.50 for a tivo box in another room ?

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Based on what is being discussed it would be a total of £9.50 per additional TiVo box (£6.50 additional box fee + £3 TiVo fee)

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Ben can you confirm if this is true ?

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I can't find that quote on Facebook.

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Looks that way. :-(

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Its on vm status comments today.

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Yes it is

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Thanks i Found it.

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Maybe they want to get some extra revenue first before scrapping £3 per month for people on TV XL next year.

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So, as per above, does it apply to everyone who currently have two boxes, or just those adding a second box after 31st October?

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I think it will be those adding a second box after 31st October?

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Yup. Anyone who already has multiple TiVos won't be affected, but as far as I understand it any new TiVo boxes ordered after 1st November will be for all customers

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Thanks for the confirmation Ben.

Glad I got 2 boxes from the get-go. Now, just bring on multiroom streaming ASAP!

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No more Tivos for me then :(

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For all we know Maybe they want to get some extra revenue first before scrapping the £3 per month for tivo for people on TV XL next year. TV XL is currently £2.50 more than Sky's enterainment extra pack. That surely won't last long.

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not me either now was gonna get a second tivo when sky sports red button comes thats why was keeping v+ for now so had access to red button not be upgrading v+ now bad move by vm IMHO

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I find it very unusual for virgin media to change the Tivo £3 fee to per box in November. These things are usually done in April or October.

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Could it be that we are in for a very good Christmas:confused:

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I hope there have changed it to per box to get more revenue so they can pay for more HD channels this year
or they want to cash in on how very well Tivo is doing.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...987479026.html

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Or might upgrade my bedroom V+ for a 500g Tivo quick. So wanted multi room viewing. Very useful. I take it to upgrade is still only £49.

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If true, then that's a foolish move, and a great way to kill off enthusiasm for those considering buying a 2nd TiVo for multi-room streaming.

"Multi-room streaming is in the latest update and it can be yours! ......for only £36 extra per year."

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It's true
go to view all 127 comments
http://www.facebook.com/virginmedia

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I agree. I've asked on the Facebook page how this affects VIP50 customers, as I'm considering replacing my V+ with a 2nd TIVO to take advantage of the multi room...

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Thats crap, I was making a mint on Tivo Upsells

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I take it you only have to order before November rather than have it installed? They can't fit me in until 22nd of Nov, but gonna order a second box this weekend.

On a related note; I had a repair to a V+ box booked in for today because I had to wait until Nov 22nd for Tivo, but when the engineer got to my house and started work I was chatting to him about Tivo and he said he had a spare unit in his van so he could install it for me today. Jolly nice of him and now I have Tivo four weeks earlier than I thought I would. :D

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Correct

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So that means instead of paying £3 l will be paying £6.:(