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OLD BOY 29-10-2020 23:15

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
As things stand, it’s far better value than the TV licence though.

muppetman11 31-10-2020 13:04

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36055497)
As things stand, it’s far better value than the TV licence though.

A lot of its competitors charge far less though , I accept Netflix has a far greater library of content than the likes of Apple TV + but with Apple currently looking to add older library content to mix with its new originals and a price of £4.99 Netflix have to be careful on pricing.

Aren't Apple also launching something called Apple One which starts at £14.95 and includes Apple Music , Apple Arcade , Apple TV + and icloud 50gb storage.

Legendkiller2k 31-10-2020 13:33

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36055695)
A lot of its competitors charge far less though , I accept Netflix has a far greater library of content than the likes of Apple TV + but with Apple currently looking to add older library content to mix with its new originals and a price of £4.99 Netflix have to be careful on pricing.

Aren't Apple also launching something called Apple One which starts at £14.95 and includes Apple Music , Apple Arcade , Apple TV + and icloud 50gb storage.

Yes info below taken from Techradar.

Individual includes Apple Music, Apple TV+, Apple Arcade, and 50GB of iCloud storage for $14.95 / £14.95 / AU$19.95 per month.
Family includes Apple Music, Apple TV+, Apple Arcade, and 200GB of iCloud storage for $19.95 / £19.95 / AU$25.95 per month, and can be shared among up to six family members.
Premier, where available, includes Apple Music, Apple TV+, Apple Arcade, Apple News+, Apple Fitness+, and 2TB of iCloud storage for $29.95 / £29.95 / AU$39.95 per month, and can be shared among up to six family members.

Legendkiller2k 09-11-2020 13:17

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Documents came through today regarding Disney+ they are considering a live channel on the Disney+ app.

jfman 09-11-2020 13:23

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36057075)
Documents came through today regarding Disney+ they are considering a live channel on the Disney+ app.

DAZN in Germany, Netflix in France, Disney+ now. I'm sure I read Amazon were considering this - possibly also Germany.

1andrew1 09-11-2020 13:40

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36057078)
DAZN in Germany, Netflix in France, Disney+ now. I'm sure I read Amazon were considering this - possibly also Germany.

This linear TV idea will never catch on, mark my words. ;)

denphone 09-11-2020 14:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057083)
This linear TV idea will never catch on, mark my words. ;)

But miracles do happen Andrew as l have experienced them myself...;)

Legendkiller2k 09-11-2020 15:07

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36057078)
DAZN in Germany, Netflix in France, Disney+ now. I'm sure I read Amazon were considering this - possibly also Germany.

Amazon technically already have live channels via Discovery addon and Eurosport in UK, the US has the likes of HBO, STARZ too, starzplay is preparing things to get the ball rolling for their live uk channel too.

1andrew1 09-11-2020 16:11

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36057078)
DAZN in Germany, Netflix in France, Disney+ now. I'm sure I read Amazon were considering this - possibly also Germany.

Imposters, these companies know nothing about broadcasting, linear won't catch on. That's the problem when you have a theme park operator, a video rental store and a bookseller pretending to be broadcasters. ;)

OLD BOY 10-11-2020 11:29

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057083)
This linear TV idea will never catch on, mark my words. ;)

Linear TV within a streamer is really best for live programmes, like news and sport (with the caveat that the latency problem needs to be resolved). The BBC I-Player provides that option already.

I am sure there will be lots of experimentation with linear TV on the streamers for films, entertainment, dramas, etc, which is what Pluto does now. However, when watching by VOD really catches on, as people use streamers more and more, I would imagine that most people will turn mainly to the VOD. I mean, how many people watch linear TV on Now TV? I’m sure that some do, but it’s so much more convenient to simply pick out the very same programmes that you can watch on the live channels from VOD. Watch them when you want, uninterrupted by those pesky ads.

Human nature is always difficult to predict, and maybe there will always be those people who prefer to watch ‘channels’ as such. However if, as I suspect, only a small minority do that in the future, the streamers will come to regard this as not being worth their while.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057252)
How would you compel a private company to operate a subscription model?

If you are talking about the BBC, simply abolish the licence fee.

spiderplant 10-11-2020 11:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057254)
I mean, how many people watch linear TV on Now TV? I’m sure that some do, but it’s so much more convenient to simply...

... watch it on broadcast TV instead.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 12:25

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Swedish streaming company aims to be Netflix’s main challenger in Europe

A Swedish TV streaming company is positioning itself as a European challenger to Netflix as it pushes out from its Scandinavian stronghold further into the continent and the US by offering a mix of Nordic drama and sport.

Nordic Entertainment Group (Nent) said on Tuesday it would enter Poland and the US next year, as well as the three Baltic states and five other unnamed European countries by 2023, as it seeks to compete in a global streaming market dominated by US players such as Netflix, Disney, HBO and Amazon.

Nent is also considering a secondary listing in the US to boost its visibility and allow better comparisons to other streaming companies, according to chief executive Anders Jensen.“This is, in my view, the biggest venture into streaming in Europe ever. We are defining ourselves as a growth company out of a Nordic success story,” Mr Jensen told the Financial Times.
https://www.ft.com/content/778110df-...8-c2a71aa8a5b9

Chris 11-11-2020 08:40

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
I have split BBC charter/licence discussion into a separate thread, here: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33709499

Hugh 11-11-2020 09:56

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057254)
Linear TV within a streamer is really best for live programmes, like news and sport (with the caveat that the latency problem needs to be resolved). The BBC I-Player provides that option already.

I am sure there will be lots of experimentation with linear TV on the streamers for films, entertainment, dramas, etc, which is what Pluto does now. However, when watching by VOD really catches on, as people use streamers more and more, I would imagine that most people will turn mainly to the VOD. I mean, how many people watch linear TV on Now TV? I’m sure that some do, but it’s so much more convenient to simply pick out the very same programmes that you can watch on the live channels from VOD. Watch them when you want, uninterrupted by those pesky ads.

Human nature is always difficult to predict, and maybe there will always be those people who prefer to watch ‘channels’ as such. However if, as I suspect, only a small minority do that in the future, the streamers will come to regard this as not being worth their while.

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If you are talking about the BBC, simply abolish the licence fee.

Can I ask - what are ‘channels’?

Are they like channels?

OLD BOY 11-11-2020 10:14

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36057256)
... watch it on broadcast TV instead.

As a Virgin customer if you want Sky Atlantic, you can’t do that.

However, my point is that if, as I suspect, we are all on IPTV in future, and you are into a service which offers a platform similar to Now TV with all your programmes set out in front of you, why would you choose to go to the live tv section? I know that some would, but I believe they would be a small minority.

It would be interesting to know the viewing patterns on Now TV, I think that would be very revealing.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057499)
Can I ask - what are ‘channels’?

Are they like channels?

Well, Hugh, some people are so pedantic, they will have a field day with terminology if the word can mean several things. Look at the fuss that cropped up over my reference to ‘linear channels’ which was the phrase being commonly used to describe the conventional broadcast channels back in the day. I was chastised for the presumed inability to understand that you can watch live TV via other platforms such as the BBC I-Player, which was not true.

That word ‘channels’ has a wider meaning than simply the broadcast TV channels, but of course you will already be aware of that, so I’m not going to indulge you. ;)


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